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Title: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on April 22, 2011, 04:50:38 AM
Stop wondering if your strategy is a winner.  Test it and see!

At hxxp: testmystrategy. com/, you can test your Roulette strategies all you want, American or European, for completely free.

Test as many spins as you'd like!

See what will happen after 100 spins, or 1,000, or a million!

Not only can you test your strategies for free, but you will even have the chance of winning a prize if you have the best winning test at the end of the month.

$100 monthly grand prize!

2nd and 3rd place prizes as well.

Post a reply and let me know how you enjoy the site.

Admin - TestMyStrategy. com
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on April 22, 2011, 03:44:20 PM
my humble opinion: testing like this doesn't make much sense. no system can beat roulette consistently.

it should be tested as "hit-n-run"
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on April 22, 2011, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: iggiv link=topic=18628.  msg135002#msg135002 date=1303497860
my humble opinion: testing like this doesn't make much sense.   no system can beat roulette consistently. 

it should be tested as "hit-n-run"

Thanks for the reply.    Keep in mind, I am not asking for any money here.    This is free for all to try, all you want.    I'm even offering a $100 monthly prize, to any winner, who is only a free member of the site. 

When I first started out playing Roulette at the Casinos, I lost a lot of money, thinking I had a winning system, because I tested it for many spins in practice mode, and every once in a while, one of my strategies would get lucky for a while, which left me thinking it was a winner.    It took me hours to test even 100 spins, which was not enough spins to be a very accurate display of the odds of my strategy.    I would then bet with real money, and get unlucky.    :(

I have the only site on the internet where anyone can input any kind of strategy they want, and see what would happen after 100,000 spins!  And you only have to wait minutes for it to process the results, where as in real life it would take years to test that many. 

It doesn't matter if there is a guaranteed system to win consistently or not, there certainly are some systems that are better than others, and on my site, you can quickly try out a lot of different ideas, and be able to take your best one to the casino. 

Although, I myself have strategies saved in my own free registered account, that win more often than not, for huge spins.    I will never go to the casino and play a million hands, but I have fun seeing if I can beat the odds myself on my own site. 

I hope people will enjoy being able to finally try out ideas they may have had for a long time, or wondered about. 

Please watch my video on YouTube for a better understanding of how complex of strategies can be entered: Roulette Tutorial - How To Test Strategies

Thanks,
eccl1019
Admin - Test My Strategy.  com


Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on April 22, 2011, 08:03:54 PM
i did not say anything against U or your site :)

i just don't believe any method will work on a long run for lots of times in a row. Everything will prove useless.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: cheese on April 22, 2011, 11:57:09 PM
Why would I test on a site where my system could be stolen?
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: gizmotron on April 23, 2011, 12:19:20 AM
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Here is my latest contraption. This one is free with no timeout conditions.

nolinks://home.earthlink.net/~gizmotron/hotnuminstaller.exe (nolinks://home.earthlink.net/~gizmotron/hotnuminstaller.exe)

Use this tool to start discussions and to think about hot numbers the way they work and don't work. There are several features that allow you to experience how numbers act like sleeping and waking up. This is how I learned to think about randomness several decades ago. It was a simulation almost like this.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on April 23, 2011, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: cheese link=topic=18628. msg135030#msg135030 date=1303527429
Why would I test on a site where my system could be stolen?

No need to worry, your ideas cannot be stolen.   Your info is safe.   Your strategies will never be revealed.

The reason why you would want to test them, is because of how quick you can immediately see how well they might do.   It is only for each user to personally experiment with different ideas for strategies.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on April 23, 2011, 02:40:06 AM
Quote from: iggiv on April 22, 2011, 03:44:20 PM
my humble opinion: testing like this doesn't make much sense. no system can beat roulette consistently.

it should be tested as "hit-n-run"

Iggiv, think about it. What you're saying is that no system should be tested over a large number of spins - only a few at a time or results will be invalid. The system doesn't know whether you test it over a lot of short "hit n run" sessions or a long sequence of "continuous" spins. You COULD take a lot of short sequences and add them all together, then test all the short sequences which are now one long sequence - why should the results be any different?

If you can beat roulette by winning one hit n run session after another, isn't that beating roulette consistently? but you deny that it can be done.

It's an illusion generated by wishful thinking. It's simply sticking your head in the sand and refusing to face reality.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on April 23, 2011, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: Mike on April 23, 2011, 02:40:06 AM
Iggiv, think about it. What you're saying is that no system should be tested over a large number of spins - only a few at a time or results will be invalid. The system doesn't know whether you test it over a lot of short "hit n run" sessions or a long sequence of "continuous" spins. You COULD take a lot of short sequences and add them all together, then test all the short sequences which are now one long sequence - why should the results be any different?

If you can beat roulette by winning one hit n run session after another, isn't that beating roulette consistently? but you deny that it can be done.

It's an illusion generated by wishful thinking. It's simply sticking your head in the sand and refusing to face reality.




i wrote a long answer, then decided to cut it short. if u have a method, winning on a long run --go to
wizardofodds.com, claim your 20k (something nobody was able to do so far), if not -- then why this empty useless talk about someone refusing "to face reality". If u have some good concrete ideas how to defeat roulette, share them with us please, if not -- then there is nothing to talk about. Just cool words to make u look cool.  :)

i don't mind -- maybe u r cool and i am not
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: cheese on April 23, 2011, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mike on April 23, 2011, 02:40:06 AM
The system doesn't know whether you test it over a lot of short "hit n run" sessions or a long sequence of "continuous" spins.


All short term or hit and run shows you is that you can get lucky sometimes and win a lot of sessions. But this evens out quickly, so its useless.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on May 04, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
Quote from: iggiv on April 23, 2011, 12:59:35 PM
If u have some good concrete ideas how to defeat roulette, share them with us please, if not -- then there is nothing to talk about. Just cool words to make u look cool.  :)

Isn't there any value in pointing out contradictions and errors as I see them? If you think I'm wrong then give reasons or back up your claims with data. IMO a forum is a place for debate and discussion, I've already shared my views on how to win at roulette but I'm not going to go into step-by-step detail on a public forum.

Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mr J on May 04, 2011, 01:27:11 PM
.......but the poster is not obligated to say a word, correct?


Ken
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on May 04, 2011, 01:47:54 PM
Naturally Ken.  :)

The point I was trying to make to iggiv was that I don't see any difference between "long run" testing and "hit 'n' run" testing, but he seemed to be saying there IS a difference and many members seem to share that belief.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mr J on May 04, 2011, 02:00:11 PM
I did a thread on that before. I am 50/50 on the subject. I truely do see both sides of the views.

Ken
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on May 04, 2011, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: Mr J link=topic=18628. msg135623#msg135623 date=1304526431
. . . . . . . but the poster is not obligated to say a word, correct?


Ken

the poster. . .  are you referring to me?

I am enjoying considering all of your thoughts.

Although I do have opinions of my own, if you're interested.   :)
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mr J on May 04, 2011, 08:25:25 PM
Any poster
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on May 04, 2011, 09:05:13 PM
Mike, if we are talking roulette methods (not including VB or biased wheels),  it is a well known fact, that most
of players are ahead at some stage, but they mostly lose it. Most pro gamblers (again i don't mean VB or bias) agree that quitting playing in time is very important. Why? because if win, very likely that u gonna lose very soon.
that's how roulette work. Balancing itself. if your method is winning -- it is very likelly that u will start losing soon.
if it did not matter --long run or short, people could be playing hours and hours successfully. But playing for too long time is out of question, most will agree
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on May 05, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: iggiv on May 04, 2011, 09:05:13 PM
Most pro gamblers (again I don't mean VB or bias) agree that quitting playing in time is very important. Why? because if win, very likely that u gonna lose very soon.
that's how roulette work. Balancing itself. if your method is winning -- it is very likelly that u will start losing soon.

I strongly disagree that roulette outcomes balance out and that this can be exploited. All the math and testing shows that this isn't the case at all. Yes, eventually the tide will turn - the question is you never know WHEN.

If you could rely on this you would just play "on paper" until a strong deviation and then jump in for the "correction". Countless systems are based around this idea, and none of them have been shown to work. It's one of the first things I looked at and simulated when I started investigating the possibility of winning with a system.

It's just the gambler's fallacy rearing its ugly head again.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: bombus on May 05, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
...It's just the gambler's fallacy rearing its ugly head again.

LOL!

Nice avatar Mike.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: gizmotron on May 05, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
I strongly disagree that roulette outcomes balance out and that this can be exploited. All the math and testing shows that this isn't the case at all. Yes, eventually the tide will turn - the question is you never know WHEN. 

So when does the math tell you that you are in a winning streak? Does it celebrate with dancing girls with pom poms and batons when you are in a losing streak?

I find it difficult to believe that you can't know when a win streak or a losing streak occurs.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on May 05, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Quote from: Gizmotron on May 05, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
I find it difficult to believe that you can't know when a win streak or a losing streak occurs.

Where did I say I don't know that? and anyway it's irrelevant because you only know it's a winning or losing streak when it's ended.

Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: gizmotron on May 05, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Where did I say I don't know that? and anyway it's irrelevant because you only know it's a winning or losing streak when it's ended.

I guess it doesn't matter "when" now. Because you are still saying you never know when or how long they last. But for some reason all the streaks you see are after they have ended. That's a streak too you know. It's an amazing thing. You only see a winning streak after it ends.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on May 05, 2011, 07:06:46 PM
Mike, u can be right...and still wrong in the same time :)
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mike on May 10, 2011, 04:33:02 AM
Iggiv, I'm not clear what you mean by hit 'n' run. Take the following scenarios:

player 1 plays every day for a week (5 days) and on each day plays his system for 10 spins (the hit 'n' run guy).

player 2 plays one day per week using the exact same system but he plays it for 100 spins.

They have played the exact same number of spins using the exact same system; now are you claiming that player 1 has an advantage not enjoyed by player 2, merely because he has broken his play into sessions of 10 spins?

Surely you can see that neither player has an advantage over the other? If you're saying that in general, playing more spins means bigger losses then I agree with you. That's the effect of the house edge, but 100 spins is 100 spins and it doesn't matter how they are broken up in TIME.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: iggiv on May 10, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Mike, maybe u r right accordingly to math, but in practical life it makes a huge difference for many people.
As much as  i know
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: chippy on May 29, 2011, 10:26:16 AM
Hi,i joined your site a few days ago and have leart a lot from my theories. I cant understand people not giving it a chance. It comes with graphs and spin data after each test. I am currently top of the may leaderboard and top of the hall of fame with 304080 profit from 100002 spins which puts me in with a chance of the $100 monthly prize without costing me a penny. Give it a go guys,need more competition. Thanks for this site. . . . cheers. . . . . scottyboy
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on May 31, 2011, 02:40:41 PM
Congrats Scottyboy, I see you at the top.   It is looking very good for you!  Thanks for the compliments on the site.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: chippy on June 01, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
Wow,this is great,won 1st and 3rd prize and $110 dollars tranfered straight into my paypal account.Much easier than gambling my own money,was almost too easy.Cheers ecc. :)
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: birdhands on June 01, 2011, 02:29:02 PM
I checked it out and it seems pretty limited.  I haven't been able to find a way to not bet until a specific trigger occurs; and if my trigger is a specific column then I'm out of luck, because I can only choose "any column".  Am I missing something?  Maybe I should try the video tutorial.
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on June 01, 2011, 03:42:58 PM
QuoteMaybe I should try the video tutorial.

Yes, please watch the video tutorial and let me know what you think. 
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on June 01, 2011, 04:02:20 PM
Quote from: chippy link=topic=18628. msg136842#msg136842 date=1306948392
Wow,this is great,won 1st and 3rd prize and $110 dollars tranfered straight into my paypal account. Much easier than gambling my own money,was almost too easy. Cheers ecc.  :)

Congrats on your great tests.   Enjoy the winnings!
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on June 03, 2011, 05:43:22 PM
A new strategy option is up!  Check it out here: hxxp: nolinks. testmystrategy. com/roulette/european. php.

Now you can test strategies according to the law of probability!!!

More updates to come next week.

Enjoy!

;D
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: Mr J on June 03, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: chippy on June 01, 2011, 02:13:12 PM
Wow,this is great,won 1st and 3rd prize and $110 dollars tranfered straight into my paypal account.Much easier than gambling my own money,was almost too easy.Cheers ecc. :)



:suicide:
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: chippy on June 05, 2011, 09:29:24 AM
Sorry ive made you feel this way mr j,dont do it,its not worth it,think of your family Just trying to show my appreciation to ecc for paying me :pleasantry:
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on June 09, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
I had someone contact me requested a way to test repeated numbers based on the 'law of the third'.

Request granted!

Choose where you want to place your bet on the board, select Any,. . .  and you will see the new options available.

More to come.   ;D
Title: Re: Finally, a way to test your strategies!
Post by: eccl1019 on June 15, 2011, 04:59:34 PM
Another new feature, by request!

Until any of the selected following "Has or Has Not" been landed on. . . check out all the options now!