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Hey Roulette members,

I have a simple question. . . . . . . has anybody any luck or see some profit with CashBuilderX Strategy ?

Look forward to a honost answer.

Greetings

John

Hi John

I have bought it, and it is excellent.  Seems too good to be true, but it actually works.
Up over $1300 on the week, from 3 days.
Cant beat it for $37. 00
Should be more, but theres too much other crap around.

Hope this helps
Buck

Hello Buck,

Thanks for your replay . . . . . but. . . .  I was asking for a HONEST answer.

Cheers

John

huh??? It is HONEST .  .  .
Think what you want

Think what you want: It`s the internet.  :sarcastic:

on this site i saw a weird thing: "risk free offer". What is this risk free offer? u send the seller a few sessions results (actuals), and he will send u back the results how much u won with this strategy.

if he keeps potential buyers as idiots (or if he is an idiot himself) -- that makes u think what kind of strategy it is

Iggiv you hit the needle on the head. . .

It is tricky if they ask money for a system because nobody is selling his golden egg. . .

Have a scam free weekend

John

LOL
Hardly a scam. . . . . . . . . . . geez.
I emailed my results and they checked out as per the Strategy.  That was free.
I liked what I saw so I purchased it.  $37 is hardly a scam.

Theres no tricks or affiliates, no adverstising for other casinos either.

Best one Ive bought off the net and its working even better than I thought.

Why must people hate ? Judge others before they know?

Even im not that silly, I tried before I bought it.  You ever bought a car before you test drove it? Or you just looked at it and went "Nah thats a scam"
Your ignorance amuses me. *better watch your language, u r new here, I can really show u "my ignorance"
*mod iggiv*

Buck

Buck, what do u mean by "you tried it??


I  can tell u I got a system. send me your spins. try it for free.

u send me 5 sessiions of50 spins. I will tell u that  one session won 1000 units, another 500 and so on. Is it good enough as a "test drive"? What kind of b/s is that?

the seller made a big mistake by offereing that kind of trial. and u also sound too good to be true. if u really wanted to tell about your experience u would get into more details and less victory songs. no system can win all the time.

now someone is asking a question. somebody else after this registers his new nick with his email bringbackbuck@whatever... to tell about his great experiences with a product someone is asking about.

of course he did it for honest telling about his experience, no more than this. No strings attached, no personal interests here. And yes, the risk-free trial was great as a test-driving  a new nice car!

Quote from: Ginger on May 28, 2011, 04:17:19 PM
Iggiv you hit the needle on the head. . .

It is tricky if they ask money for a system because nobody is selling his golden egg. . .

Have a scam free weekend

John

there is a guy with nickname NapoleonBonaparte here. i kinda can  believe him cause he did live sessions with me in the chat. he sells his system as well. but he did not mind a real live trial.

I just bought the system for $37.00.  I am reading through it, it is a little complicated and does require some practice as the author explains.  I am trying to get a feel for it and eventually I will.  I have thousands of real Weisban Spins to test it against and I will give it a fair trial.

I will let you know my results soon.  Keep in mind, the author does admit that it does not win "every" time.  There are most definately losing sessions, however he claims you will win more sessions that losing sessions in the long term.

After reading through the strategy, it is an interesting approach, one I have never seen or really thought of before.

thanx, ||||. will be interesting to know

is that the same  system they are selling   at Walmart for  99 cents ?

So many haters??? WHY? Gamblers really are grumpy angry people!
I never understand people that get angry when they lose, no one is MAKING you bet.
I hate people blaming the dealers, get a life!

No one is trying to rip anyone off ?? And the end of the day, we all want to win. 

People are only selling their ideas to people who want to buy them.  30 odd dollars isnt much for
someones idea that may make more than you win at the moment.

The casinos all make squillions, so we as players are in the same boat.  A scam to me would be buying something
that you dont get or something that is common knowledge that you can find on the internet. 
CashbuilderX is nothing I had seen before and it definitely unique.

Give it a rest.  dont judge too quick.  I like it, and so far so good.  Better than the way I use to play. 

Im only trying to make a point as every time I emailed Mike at the start he helped me, was always fast to reply and
even had a msn session with me for about 20 minutes.

Cheers
Buck

Your ignorance amuses me.  *better watch your language, u r new here, I can really show u "my ignorance"
*mod iggiv*

SORRY IGGIV .  .  .  just saw that.  Was frustrated and trying to make a point over a fair situation.

Buck

Buck, we didn't say any rude word towards u, we just expressed DOUBTS, that's it. but u didn't want to tolerate the doubts, u wanted and expected "yes, I want it" answer.
Now, i asked a simple question: how can it be a fair trial if u just send your data to someone and he sends some "results" back to u? How fair is it? I asked u, u called me ignorant instead of answering my question. Very nice. Now u r talking about hate. About making your point.

we have right to express our doubts and make our points. And nobody should call us ignorant of hateful because of this. And scam is not a hate word, it is a thing encountered very often, much more often than anything else, when u r talking about roulette products.

so please calm down and stop talking hate, blah-blah-blah

now, good to have a guy with a little more credibility than u got here. |||| will hopefully share his real experience with us.

Hi All

Haven't posted here in ages .... you might all know me as Buffster .... In those Turbogenius years.

I consider myself a credible poster ... hope you all do to.


Anyways, I don't usually buy systems off the net, but this one got my attention .... guess the price was too good to resist.


For what it's worth .... Everything Buck said about the system  ..... ALL TRUE   !!!!!


It is a different idea ....


Sorry maybe I talked too fast  .... one thing I can't confirm from what Buck said is the part about Mike's quick responds and


help. Haven't had to email or chat with him yet.


As for myself, I haven't tried it live yet, but from my testing it does look promising.


CIAO

TicTacToe
( Buffster )

Hi buddy! Yes, Buffster is what I was talking about earlier. He is 'established', credible.

A top notch guy, I wish you posted here more.

Ken

thank youuuuuuuuuuuu tic tac toe

Someone else bought it and backed me up, feel a lot better .  .  . felt like I was gettin well swooped on!

We are all in the same boat .  .  .  we love gambling, we love roulette and WE WANNA WIN!

WEEEEEEEEE. . . . . . . . .

Hey Iggiv

Now, I asked a simple question: how can it be a fair trial if u just send your data to someone and he sends some "results" back to u? How fair is it?

Well it is as it states, you send in some test results and Mike emails you back with what would have happened according to the CashBuilderX strategy.  (per session/profit/win/loss)

Hope that answers it.
Cheers
Buck

well, maybe it is a good system, can't argue that, but that is not a credible trial. There could be any imaginable answer far from truth "what would have happened".

thank u everybody for the info.

Buck sorry if i was harsh on u. too many weirdos here

Hello Buck,

Just one thing. . . . is your IP address  59. 167. 208. 77 , because I seen on a other forum that SteveG and Mike have the same IP addresses, do they live saperated in the same building. . . . . . .

On the other hand I am glad that somebody bought the system and will tell us the results.

Cheers

John

Yes mate, we're all in the same apartment block with WiFi.  We all play it .  .  .  only had to buy one copy .  .  .  hehe.

Buck

Ok, this is turning into a big advertisement for the cashbuilder system.

Problem is, I was the one stupid enough to move it to the sales section, so now us mods can't justify deleting the thread because it's in the wrong section. lol.

So here's my proposition...

I will buy the system, Mr j will pay for it, iggiv will test the shit out of it, and poit will post the review.

whadyareckon?

you owe me $37 Mr j...   :lol:

Bombus - Ive PM'd you .  .  .

Hello Bombus,

That's what I like to hear from you , you and the others you mentioned are first class roulette players , the heat will take out the air if you and the one's you mentioned will put it to the test , till than it us to us ( me ) "the lucky players" to be silent and wait for the results.

Look forward to it. . . . .

Cheers

John

And I dont like an IP address being posted.

Ken

Email SteveG got today :

Steve,

               Yep.   It's actually producing a very nice profit after my traditional 20 test shoes.

               I've been running it under baccarat as roulette is still too risky with the zero/zero thing involved.   Why put up with that when the Even money wager in bac is better than the Even money wager in
roulette.
               I can report that it has been winning and winning nicely.   If I get a wild hair one of these days, I may give it a live money trial.    Win a few of those and I'll be a convert to this play for sure.

               It's too bad that none of those people on the boards who are adamant about system sellers
will even take a look at it.

               My two primary baccarat system plays were both from "purchased" accounts.    I play Maverick when online and System 40 when inside a casino.   They both play different but work better under each venue.

               I'll continue to test with it and should I decide to play it live one of these days, I'll report back to you.

               I've already had two "requests" from members in the Roulette forum to send them "your"
system.   Of course I have not and won't do it as the material is not mine to hand out.

               You can inform "CashBuilderx" or whomever this belongs to that it has good possibilities and if
there's something I see that could help it; I'll give you an email at that time.

               Thanks for sharing it and I'll continue on with testing when I get some free time.   It has
become much faster now but more work to come.

               *monogram removed*

Scam? I think not .  .  .  .  

Lets just WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buck, you got caught out on rouletteforum.net promoting this system and giving good reviews under different accounts with same ip address. And now you make a bullshit excuse that you are both using the same wifi connection?

Generally people that find something that works do not go out of their way to tell everyone about it and promote it. You were caught out.

Your system is for even chance (red/blacks). You cannot beat roulette in the long term that way. It is common for a person to buy a system, test it for a bit and win, then think it is a legitimate long term winning system when it isnt. Hance a potentially legitimate positive review. Any system can win in the short term. If that wasnt the case, nobody would bother playing.

If your system legitimately is the "holy grail", see nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html) - it is real. But I am confident enough your system and how you are promoting it is a scam - confident enough I wouldnt even risk $37.

Now if I'm wrong, and it were ever proven to me, you could be 100% certain I would publicly apologize and give you ever bit of exposure you could want on the forum. But I'm sure enough that it is a scam to not even want to risk $1.

BUCK, explain this:

1. You posted at nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1304978822/ (nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1304978822/) clearly as the system seller (cashbuilderX) promoting the system. You used the IP 59.167.208.77

2. You posted at nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1304978822/ (nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1304978822/) as "Buck" claiming to be someone who bought the system. Buck also used the IP address 59.167.208.77

3. You also posted at SteveG on the same thread pretending to be someone who bought the system. Also using IP address 59.167.208.77

So let me get this right. You, the system seller, and SteveG ALL LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF USING THE SAME WIFI CONNECTION???

You are scamming people. You have been busted. BUT PLEASE, EXPLAIN THE ABOVE. I suggest do it in your next post or just be banned

Like I say....10 posts, 9 posts, until a member is really established here, ya just dont know. That is NOT an insult to all you decent rookie posters.  :give_rose:

Ken

FAR OUTTTTTTTTTTTTT u guys gotta be kidding me......

WE ALL LIVE IN THE SAME COMPLEX RUN OFF ONE WIFI NETWORK, thats not uncommon here, its included in the rental . . . We are all friends yes, we all play together. So what.

Why would we be scamming people then getting FEEDBACK from REAL PEOPLE that have bought the Strategy and liked it. it is just what it is on the website . . . its not falsely advertising, and it beats anything else on the market right now . . I challenge you to that. No one is saying quit your job and break the casino. SERIOUSLY!

Hes not selling the impossible, Hes not claiming this will beat the casino . . . nothing will.
Its not even a SYSTEM.....its a STRATEGY . . .that REALLY works in producing profit...consistanly. Every time you go to the casino it is a new event . . .we're not talkin a bazillion computer spins that we will never experience in the lifetime, no one is claiming that it will win your 100k . . . no one WILL EVER achieve that. DUH.

BUT . . this does work, and will continue to work . . .we all play this way and do very well, sure we have losing sessions, but def having more winning ones is realistic.

It is only newly been developed, was just trying to get it out there, we want people to win . . . theres nothing bad/fraudulent about it. Over 100 have been sold and NOT ONE COMPLAINT........what does that say? Had so much positive feedback....even on this thread . . . so seriously, take it for what it is.........

Anyways
Good luck to everyone.
Im in the same boat as you all . . . . wanting to win $$$ thats it.

Buck, Stevo, Mike
CashbuilderX

....and thats why YOU are in the 'for sale' section. Dont complain, other sites dont even allow a section like this. Your stuff would be deleted on contact.  :thumbsup:

Ken

 ;D wtf?

So you and your other friends paid your friend for his system? What a kind friend.

QuoteHes not claiming this will beat the casino . . . its a STRATEGY that REALLY works in producing profit...consistanly.

Contradiction. So which is it?

a. A strategy that beats the casino CONSISTENTLY, or
b. Your kind friend's strategy does NOT beat the casino consistently?

Which is it? Dont tell me sometimes you will win, sometimes lose. We all know that. The site makes contradictions, and so do you.

Understand I'm not out to harm you or anyone. But your claims reek of BS and have every reason to believe you are spamming. You even attacked my player forum at nolinks.genuinewinner.com/forum (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/forum) before I banned you, and rouletteforum.net, and other forums.

"Im only trying to make a point as every time I emailed Mike at the start he helped me, was always fast to reply and even had a msn session with me for about 20 minutes."


"WE ALL LIVE IN THE SAME COMPLEX
We are all friends yes, we all play together.
Buck, Stevo, Mike
CashbuilderX"

Well, you see, Iggiv it's ONE HUGE COMPLEX :) But the wifi connection is great and reaches for miles. So huge that they communicate via MSN chat.

Please Buck, help us understand this. It appears one bit of nonsense leads to another

well, one guy testified he uses the strategy successfully, lets see what the other guy will say. who knows.

Considering the contraditions and what has happened here, with further testing, I'm sure it will clearly be another for the recycle bin. But hey, I know what it's like to be wrongly accused, so he can have his chance.

Sounds to me like they could be living on a university campus.

@ Buck,
Next time you post a private email please first ask the author for permission and at the very least remove any identifying signatures, etc.

Thanks.

There are a couple of ip addresses to look at, but none are the typical university campus.

Dont they pay Austudy anymore?

Anyway Buck, please just answer the questions. If you cant, or just want to come up with more BS, then please dont spam here or on the other forums.

Seriously, what is up?
Three people have tried to promote CashBuilderX

A way to get it out there and advertise.

Theres no SCAMMING or ripping off. Theres no complaints as per the CBX strategy, you cant deny that.
Theres no false claims, u cant deny that

YES we handled it the wrong way, with no bad intentions, only to get the ball rolling on a brand new FRESH idea with a website. Feedback has been awesome seriously.

Sorry to everyone for causing such a ruckas.
Sorry to the mods. Yet to see a complaint from the people that have bought it. Sales have been excellent.

What more do you want? BUT PLEASE dont say we're scamming or ripping off. NEVER.
It is what it is on the website - as pointed out by other people on this thread.

Thats all.

Sorry, and it was one hell of a lesson. The only way we learn is from messin up.
Cant STRESS enough, that theres no ripping off people from there money.

Thank you to everyone that has bought it, appreciated. Nice to have a unique idea and share it.
Only all been with good intentions.

Cheers

Buck, you misled people telling them you bought a system from someone who supports you via MSN chat, as if to say "yeah everyone I bought this system and it rocks.. go buy it!" when that was not the case. It was not to defend yourself against nonsense or something with at least more undertandable reasons. It was purely to MANIPULATE AND SELL. I dont believe there are numerous people.... just you.

I have no doubt your method would not work consistently as you, and the others, claim. Time will tell, but every single method I've ever known that uses red/black bets FAILS. That means it will not win consistently, like you claim your system does.

You did not answer my question about the contradiction. So which is it??

a. A strategy that beats the casino CONSISTENTLY, or
b. Your kind friend's strategy does NOT beat the casino consistently?

Steve

I cant predict the future spins.

Average, it wins on 7-8 sessions out of 10 making a profit with the strategy in place.
Thats it.

Ok so you are saying that if you played 10,000,000,000 spins, that you would end up with a profit. Is that what you are saying?

After all, you say you win more than you lose.

Nah mate im not saying that . . cant predict the future, just quoting on what ive tried so far . . .

Firstly, Sorry to all the MODS, none of us had used forums before and really understand the politics that goes with them.
Really didnt understand the effort all the mods go to by making the forums what they are. Sorry to abuse that.

We're only trying to advertise and get the cashbuilderx strategy out there to the public and this seemed
like the best way to go . . . to players. In third person. No scamming involved thats for sure. No promotions of casinos or advertising.

Feedback has been excellent anyway.

Again, sorry for the trouble. Respect what you do.

Leaving it at that.

Quote from: Buck on May 30, 2011, 04:46:40 AM

Firstly, Sorry to all the MODS, none of us had used forums before and really understand the politics that goes with them.

Strange that, because there is a couple of people called "Buck" that HAVE used forums in the past...... :rtfm:

nolinks://nolinks.moneymakergroup.com/Cashbuilderx-Cashbuild-t377782.html (nolinks://nolinks.moneymakergroup.com/Cashbuilderx-Cashbuild-t377782.html)

nolinks://nolinks.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328885&page=2 (nolinks://nolinks.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328885&page=2)


Now no doubt that's NOT you right ??  :diablo: :diablo:

IF the pinocchio fable is true, your nose must look like Barry Manilows  :nono: :nono: :nono:

Quote from: xman1970 on May 30, 2011, 06:17:17 AM...IF the pinocchio fable is true, your nose must look like Barry Manilows...

Barry Manilow, no.  Barbra Streisand, yes!


Kenny Everett - Barbra Streisand... first time on YouTube! (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=-pW87BM_3fw#)

Hello Roulette Fans,

I started this topic but didn't realice it would go this way , the best thing is that we wait till our forum profs are finished with the test.

At the moment we are shooting and kill the person and lets hope the person found something brand new.

Bombus I liked the video and who knows maybe this persons has a nose for business.
As long we talking and shooting he is pump up the price if the profs proved that his system is working.

Have a nice day. .

John   ( Rotterdam , Holland )

Bombus,


That was BEFORE her nose job I presume ?  :yahoo:

STILL GOING!!! OMG

Yes its all us using the diff forums, DUH . . thats not rocket science. We used losts of forums since the launch of website for Promotion in third person view . . . Ive admitted that.

Why you guys still going on and on? Ive apoligised, admitted what has happened.

Youre all shooting us down, NOT THE PRODUCT. . . . Point should be the product, correct???
We know it was the wrong way to go about it, thats clear . . . but seriously, no one has said the product is crap or a scam or rubbish have they ??? NOOOOO . . . wonder why??? Yep . . its good, its fresh and it works. Even people on THIS VERY thread with RANK have expressed praise for it.

Btw - its still been selling well with excellent feedback . . . I guess any publicity is good huh.

BUCK

People? You mean one person, and clearly it hasnt had significant testing. You claim to be able to beat roulette over the long term with red/black bets. I dont buy it, for good reason.

Assuming there actually are 3 of you, and I dont believe there are, either way the way you went about promoting it made it a scam (dishonesty).

But I recognize that this is not to do with the actual system, which is why you have not been banned at this point. Although I really should have banned you, because spam is not tolerated. So please consider yourself very lucky. Just please keep it to the correct section of the forum.

Steve,

I agree with you yes, and i said Im sorry for going about it the wrong way.
didnt mean any harm, we just wanted to get the ball rolling.

Thank you for not banning . . . appreciate it.

We're happy to take feedback on the CBX Strategy, by all means, that IS the point . . .

Also, it NEVER claims to beat the casino, we're not that stupid. If youre going to play, then this is the way to play that works effectively and gets good results.

Anyway . . .so blown out of proportion, sorry.

Hi Fanciers,

OK that was enough talk , stop the WAR , what I want are the results , that is the reason to start this topic.

I wasn't asking for banning persons , ones again , I want the results and nothing more than that.

Is that CLEAR to you.

Hope to hear something positiv.............

Greetings

John

Ginger - Tic Tac Toe and  l l l l l l and the email i posted . . . . what more are you looking for ???
ALL ON THIS THREAD!

Quote from: Buck on May 31, 2011, 03:53:37 AM
what more are you looking for ???

I think he's looking for a guarantee.  :D

You say that it wins 7-9 times out of 10, but you can't predict the future, meaning it MAY come crashing down at any moment, do you agree?  ;)

Im being realistic, EVERY single spin is independent . . . you could win 100 bets in a row u could lose all 100 in a row, would that likely happen? No . . . but at the end of the day anything is possible.
It doesnt reley on gettin specific spins as such, thats why its so powerful.

The CBX strategy is unique that it has steps in place to limit loss's and control wins while looking after your bank.

Just letting everyone know that having 100 strong sales and NO negative feedback that the CashBuilderX Strategy will be going back up to FULL PRICE, There is nothing more to prove. It works. Thank you to everyone that has purchased it.

It is THE most powerful, newest, unique way to win at the casino.
:dance1:

QuoteIt is THE most powerful, newest, unique way to win at the casino.

I highly doubt that. And you said yourself you cannot beat the casino. Then you say your system wins consistently. then you say no system wins consistently.


Mike, if I buy it myself, am I going to find it is nonsense? The last time someone like you came here and made the same claims, I bought, and it turned out to be a scam. Then I had to waste time to get my money back. a few dollars but the principle matters

Quote from: Buck on May 31, 2011, 11:50:08 PM
There is nothing more to prove.

It is THE most powerful, newest, unique way to win at the casino.

Will I get a free t**d with my download ??  I only ask as your so v v v full of BS I assume you will be wanting to get rid of some  ??? ??? ???

Liar, Liar as well as a big nose no doubt "your pants are on fire" !!!!

& finally well done Stevie H, opening this section gives Uncle Buck FREE advertising for his lies......


Brilliant..... :nono: :nono: :nono:

xman, this section exists because:

1. some people have interest in buying systems
2. it gives spammers somewhere to focus, rather than spamming on the main boards which are kept clean.

It has its purpose

Anyway Buck, please answer my questions. As for your ebay feedback, it is worthless. Very easy to buy ebay feedback, and feedback can be related to completely different items. You've already shown how misleading your advertising is.

Quote from: Steve on June 01, 2011, 01:07:46 AM
xman, this section exists because:

1. some people have interest in buying systems
2. it gives spammers somewhere to focus, rather than spamming on the main boards which are kept clean.

It has its purpose

Anyway Buck, please answer my questions. As for your ebay feedback, it is worthless. Very easy to buy ebay feedback, and feedback can be related to completely different items. You've already shown how misleading your advertising is.

As normal we will have to agree to disagree Steve, bottomline ?? Buck get's free advertising for his lies...... :rtfm:

& with this forum going along with it some people will think your getting a nice cut...... :diablo:

Quote& with this forum going along with it some people will think your getting a nice cut......

Well you can tell those people to wake up.

sooooooooooooooooo still going with the personal attacks AGAIN . . .

Here is my proposal.

Steve, I will get it sent to you for FREE, this is not about the money.
Be fair and respect the Strategy, make fun of me, sure.

PM me your email or where ever you would like it sent and I will do so immediately

Buck, check your pm for my email address.

I am not attacking you personally. It is not an attack to say you deceptively advertised. It is not an attack to say it is manipulating people to get sales, which is fraud. It is not an attack to say you have spammed, on various forums. Understand the difference between calling you a "poopie head" and merely stating facts you find offensive.

I have nothing to lose or gain from your method being legitimate or illegitimate. I will give my honest opinion of it, and if it is what you claim, rest assured I would make it well known.

I have apoligised several times.

You have been fair. Appreciated.

All sent anyways, to you, and BombUS.

All the best.

Ok I have read and understood your system. You are following a sequence of RB. While I have not personally tested with that exact sequence, I see no reason or logic why that sequence would be any different to any other sequence. So I believe it would achieve no advantage at all.

Nevertheless, it would be easy enough to code to do extensive testing. But I just dont have time to do it myself. I suggest test with a program called roulette xtreme.

When you or someone has done extenstive testing, please let me know if the results are positive.

When i stop and think of it, its so funny how everyone reacts, even AFTER positive feedback from people who DID buy it.

WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT - We all like gambling, we all like to WIN . . . thats why we're here.

We did advertise in 3rd person, yes, but what was said, wasnt false claims as such. Also confirmed on this VERY thread by a trusted forum member, and QUOTE off my head "Everything buck has said ITS TRUE"

You think our lives will increase dramatically by taking $37 off people for useless nothing???

This idea has been created and is unique, it doesnt deserve to be given away for FREE, just a little something as a reward and satisfaction for the effort gone into it.

Its more about making a difference to the people, LIKE US AND YOU, that play and enjoy roulette. Making more winning sessions. THATS IT.

I assure ANYONE reading this, this isnt a SCAM or Sweet NOTHING. We arent professionals, we arent marketing people, we arent criminals. We are like you, with an idea, and a good one at that. We arent closing casinos down by playing this way. But we are having more winning sessions playing this EXACT method.

We want everyone to play, and WIN . . . we dont care how, we've lost tons over our gambling career and its time to get some back . . .

Nothing to hurt or upset anyone, cant stress that enough.

Hopefully Steve will let you all know anyway.

Its much more than just following the sequence, way more . . . you didnt have to make it sound so lame.  :give_heart: Not looking for a full on review, but come on . . .

Money managment
Betting/how much when
Dual staking

All so important to the end result.

I saw nothing in it that would give a legitimate long term advantage. Money management doesnt at all change edge, at least not with red/black bets. What you need to do is run large simulations with your sequence, and check if the odds of red/black are any different. I am positive you will find they are no different. I have not see your exact method and sequence of RB, but there are countless very similar ones and they all have the same result.

If you apply it EXACTLY as stated, it gets the results that are claimed, by me and at least 3 others on this thread.

anyway, will try to code it for LONGGGG term testing.

Thx for your time.

So there we have it members of this forum, Bucks says it is honest n fair & not a scam etc etc etc.....


Shame he's advertised it acting like a scammer/spammer/liar...... :rtfm:


But congrats Buck you have won this weeks "silly sausage award"  :good: :good: :good:

XMAN,

You just have to throw your 2 cents in dont you.

Hiding under Steves lil wing, thrown your piece out there . . .

Where do you get off on it ?
Only benefit I give you is that I use to live in SLC and I love the JAZZ . .
That it all.

Quote from: Buck on June 01, 2011, 03:46:34 AM
XMAN,

You just have to throw your 2 cents in dont you.

Erm it's a forum people state their opinion here..... :girl_wacko:

Hiding under Steves lil wing, thrown your piece out there . . .

Hiding ?? I have no idea of what you mean by this ??

Where do you get off on it ?

I don't being lied to n misled, IF your way of play is legit, then your way of advertising it has been poor to say the v v v least.... & like ALL scammers you said words to the effect "oh sales are going great, so we are going to put the price back up" in other words.... BUY IT NOW !!!!!! pi$$ poor mate  :nono: :nono:

Only benefit I give you is that I use to live in SLC and I love the JAZZ . .

I loved Em a lot more when they DIDN'T throw coach Sloan under the bus  :angry2: :angry2: Hopefully No.3 in the draft (although a poor draft) can lead to something good  ;)

That it all.

relax, I have no need for somebody like you to like me even a little bit  :good:

Hello everybody,

I can't understand that you keep on pissing on this person , he is giving his tools to the "big" men in the roulette and see there , they keep on pissing on him , Steve you take time to complane , please use your time to test the system,
.
That's all I asked from the beginning.
Al so to the other "bigheads" are there already any result?

Greetings

John    ( forgive me for my french )

Ginger, Thank you mate, I want you to have the CBX strategy for free so you can play,test and win . . .
PM your email to me . . .

This is not about money, I just want people to win and win because of my idea

This entire thread should be deleted, just my opinion.

Ken

Ken, yes I'm with you on that. It shouldnt even be here. The merry trio of what are likely the same person have one chance to prove the system works as he states.

Ok,
I've received a copy of the cbx system - thanks buck, mike, steveg, davo, unclebuck, cashbuilderx...  have I missed anyone?...probably.

I have read over the system and given it a quick test with these 15 numbers.

Buck, can you post the result for betting these 15 numbers so I can see if I'm doing it right? Just the final profit/loss please.

23
1
25
4
16
17
19
0
15
17
15
3
12
29
24

My first impression is that the system is an effective randomizer of both bet selection and staking, which without the benefit of extensive testing I would have to say is a break even proposition.

It also requires a ball's out type of progression that would not be in everyone's comfort zone. Having said that, the system does have a stop loss of sorts.

Buck, have I got this right - the first bet for any new session is always 6 units?

I will give it a good test over the next week or so and report back. Maybe the real Mike will already have it coded and tested before I finish.  :lol:

@ Ginger,

Take it easy mate. I deleted your last post, keep it civil.  :thumbsup:

Ok it took me a little while to fully understand, practice and get the hang of it.  I completed several sessions and my results are looking pretty close to what the author is claiming.  I won about 6 out of 10.  I will do more testing to see how well it holds up.

Dear Sirs,

I am a member of this forum for a couple of months now but the way you tried people is not my cup of tea.
A simple question is turning in a bad way.

The reason I be a member is to learn from each other ...but this is terrible.

So I finish my membership by this forum and wish you all the luck in the world, it is a pity because I just wanted to give you a hell of a system for free.

Peace roulette brothers.

John            The Netherlands

It is a bit funny though. One guy, multiple user names........having conversations with oneself. The BEST (not the only) members to get advice/results on methods are the guys (not AP) that have been around for quite a while. Sorry but its true. ((There is a 'new' guy at GG, I know exactly who it is))

Ken

FUTURE REFERENCE for NEWER members here>> The best way to give away a system for FREE.......post it and ALL the rules of how to play. My opinion, do NOT post results and do NOT post even if you think the method is great. Leave all that out.


Ken

Ginger, understand what Buck/Mike/SteveG have done here (all same person): spammed, and given self-reviews for a product. The actual product is complete nonsense. The seller contradicts himself about whether the system actually wins.

You wonder why he is attacked. Because people dont like scammers. The attacks against him are mostly justified. We are all tired of system sellers coming along promising a system that wins more than it loses, deceptively advertising, and providing nothing. People dont like it.

And ginger you said "it is a pity because I just wanted to give you a hell of a system for free."

Nevermind though, we have buck's other great system.

Buck/Mike, it is not a personal thing.

As for your actual system, you dont need to code it in RX. I just did this myself: use MS excel to creat random RB's. Then use the countif function to determine where the sequence occurs. Then use it again to determine how many times R or B occurs in the sequence. Then we count the number of times R or B occur. The result? No edge.

In other words, your sequence and system is complete nonsense as expected. Test it for yourself.

Now you kind of scoffed at my mention of LONG TERM, as if to say "well nobody plays a million spins". True, but let's put it into context. You have a million people that each play one round with your system. How many win, and how many lose? I mean they are all playing short term, right? The end result is the combined bankroll is a clear loss. that is the long term, in context.

Any system can beat roulette short term. That doesn't mean it is a legitimate winning system.

In the end, you got away with murder on this and other forums. You spammed, gave self-reviews before being caught out, contradicted yourself, and did it all over the internet as I can now see. The way it is being advertised alone makes it a scam. But if the system itself was worth something, it may be forgiveable. But the system itself is nonsense. I suggest whip up a quick excel chart and see it for yourself. Use the countif function.

You come across as someone who may have thought he had something, although he never significantly tested it. But he tried to sell it anyway. Then he created fictional characters to spam and self-review it. Your ebay reviews are no doubt much the same - very easy to buy ebay reviews.

Again dont take it personally. Understand why people dont approve of you, and they have every right to feel this way.

folks, i suggest let's forget what happened except the test results....that's most important

Quote from: bombus on June 01, 2011, 08:46:16 AM
Buck, have I got this right - the first bet for any new session is always 6 units?

That's the way I see it here, too.

AD

Hey Bombus
Well yes youre right 6 units, the first bet is counted but isnt as such. You know what i mean.
On those numbers you would have had 8 completions (16 units)
and one side is still in progress (not the best example)

AND for the record, GINGER is not me . . GEEZ . . hes from netherlands, but im sure you guys still will think that!

I really feel like people are searching for the impossible. NOTHING will work ALL THE TIME, but this works so bloody effectively every time you go and play. Thats my whole point. . . . Stick to the rules and you will come out ahead. Be prepared to have the losing sessions, top up and start again.

We know it works! theres at least 3 people on this thread, Tic TAC, I I I I I I, A.D who have all tried it with great results.

I play this way EVERY DAY, tried to share it and been just nailed . . .

Everyone is just missing the point . . .

Not one person has TESTED and come back and shown a negative RESULT . .NOT ONE . . . .

Strange huh? After this many posts . . .you would  think someone would have wanted me to be shown the door . .

WHY??? Cause it works . . . it WINS MONEY! Effortlessly

Happy gambling CBX users

To be fair I haven't posted any results yet because I got slam dunked on my first session - down $330 = 66 units (take away the 130 I was up and it's down $460). It might have been that I made mistakes, so it is a bit premature for conclusions. I will replay the session.

I stopped as per instructions because I could not afford the next bet. I have not topped up and continued yet, so perhaps things will turn around.

I did not want to post any details until I gave it a fair run. So don't expect to hear anything from me for a while.

Quote from: Buck on June 02, 2011, 12:26:46 AM
...On those numbers you would have had 8 completions (16 units)
and one side is still in progress (not the best example)...

Ok, before I move on any further I'll play those 15 numbers and try to match your result.

Buck, could you run these 50 numbers through the system so I can check that the code is doing what it should? Let me know the final result, thanks.

17
4
24
26
33
2
3
3
23
28
16
9
1
15
19
5
6
27
7
5
0
24
9
13
3
7
8
16
29
26
31
33
1
12
0
2
15
32
28
27
5
31
31
8
16
14
22
3
26
32

Just about to head out for the night mate, will run through it tomorrow properly.
Had a quick quick look, it either just makes the target or just loses, hard to work out manually in a hurry.
Sorry for delay . . .
Tomorrow.

I suggest test the working principle, which is that the sequence is supposed to make RB more prdictable. It doesnt. If you test the principle, you will know whether or not the system CAN OR CANNOT work. I already did testing and found what I expected: no edge. Now you can find out for yourself, either take the easy or hard way.

In my brief testing I agree that the sequence itself does not work.  It is no different than following any random pattern or playing random against random.  I tested it flat betting and it performs the same as randomly betting red or black however which way you choose.

However when it is combined with the unique staking system of playing the two colors against each other it becomes a totally different animal.  I have not really seen a unique staking system like this before in regards to how the two Even Chances are fighting each other at the same time.

Time will tell.  Long term testing will be needed to see if a true advantage can be accomplished.

Barcode, the thing is if accuracy of predictions is not improved, no staking or money management will make a difference. It is absolute scientific certainty.

The only thing money management will ultimately be controlled by is plain luck. But nobody needs to take my word for it. Yes time tells.

Barcode, youre exactly right, you cant deny how effective all of that combined is. Every time you play, it just works. Its not about the selection, that just takes away decision making. The way the numbers behave this is extremely effective.
Long term short term WHATEVER . . . when applied at the table playing roulette, THIS WORKS . . .anyone prove me wrong otherwise.
Love getting that feedback . . . thanks mate

Buck, I have already proved you wrong. Unfortunately not everyone underestands why you cannot beat roulette without increasing the accuracy of predictions. It is spelled out at nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html) but still not everyone understands it. I have proven your bet selection doesn't increase accuracy of predictions.

It is very common for people to test a system and initially see positive results, only to realize that extensive testing shows it tanks. Either way, everyone can find out for themselves.

Mike
Tested those numbers . . .

Strategy finished at the number 5 red - couldnt continue

Loss of only $150
Thx

Ok thanks Buck. I should have the system coded today and will send you the results file, although it will probably be tomorrow your time.

Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2011, 09:44:29 PM
Buck, I have already proved you wrong. Unfortunately not everyone underestands why you cannot beat roulette without increasing the accuracy of predictions. It is spelled out at nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/truth.html) but still not everyone understands it. I have proven your bet selection doesn't increase accuracy of predictions.

It is very common for people to test a system and initially see positive results, only to realize that extensive testing shows it tanks. Either way, everyone can find out for themselves.

Steve is correct. There really isn't any mystery about why MM and progressions ON THEIR OWN cannot work although it may take you a long time to realise it, and some people will never 'get it'.

It's easier to see why progressions fail if you think about them as just a collection of bets, and NOT in the particular order that you play them - ie; not as a sequence of e.g. 1,2,4,8,16, etc but just as betting sometimes 1 unit, sometimes 2 units etc. This is a perfectly valid way of thinking about it because spins are independent - you could select out all your bets according to what you staked - for example the 8 unit bets might be R B R B RR BBBB R etc, the 16 unit bets might be BB R RRR R etc and if you played them that way you would end up with the same results as if you had played them in a linear sequence (1,2,4,8,16). Now it's easier to see why progressions can't work, because in effect, it's just as if you were flat betting different amounts at different times - the assumed advantage of a progression is an illusion, it's meaningless.

Since progressions are ultimately equivalent to flat betting, you need to increase the accuracy of predictions in order to win in the long term.

QuoteNow it's easier to see why progressions can't work, because in effect, it's just as if you were flat betting different amounts at different times - the assumed advantage of a progression is an illusion, it's meaningless.

Since progressions are ultimately equivalent to flat betting, you need to increase the accuracy of predictions in order to win in the long term.

That was very nice written.
I like the last line and think it boils down to one simple basic principal.

My 2 cent what is and what is not a good method.

First if some one can not gain at least +1 unit and it overcome the attempts doing so - then there is no way to success and why should it be when there is no positive expectation.

Secondly if some one does succeed to certain degree - then a good bench mark would be to make a net gain of 10% placing 1024 bets flat betting where at least +1 unit overcome the amounts of attempts.

I'm running a little behind on this, but it's probably about 85% done. How's the manual testing holding up with those who have the system?  :)

Quote from: Mike on June 04, 2011, 05:01:06 AM
I'm running a little behind on this, but it's probably about 85% done. How's the manual testing holding up with those who have the system?  :)

I'm struggling with it, replaying several sessions to make sure I haven't made any boo boos.

I must say I don't like the way the bets escalate quickly when on a losing streak.

I have had bets go from $30 to beyond $120 within a handful of spins and unlike martingale, still been in minus even after winning.


From what I've seen so far and this is not conclusive, I would say in the first instance it would have been nice if the author had just posted it on the forums for free like many of us do with our work, but for $37 sure, you could check it out you might learn something or it might prompt some new idea to help you in your search to beat the game. But for $299, I would say go and buy a nice bottle of red wine and take your mother out for dinner to a fine dine restaurant; She won't be here forever you know, but roulette and casinos probably will.

Thanks for the feedback bombus.  :thumbsup:

I'm pretty much there with the program but I'm not getting the same result as Buck did with the spins I posted above. I think the problem is with the stop loss rule. It says in the doc to set aside profit which is not to be touched, and you should quit when you have 60 units, but supposing you have your 60+ units profit, but only 20 units left in the bank, do you still quit? in that case you have actually lost 20 units overall (60 units profit + 20 units bank). The way I've coded it is not like this, which is I suspect why I'm not getting the same result.

Quote from: bombus on June 04, 2011, 08:07:54 AM
but for $37 sure, you could check it out you might learn something or it might prompt some new idea to help you in your search to beat the game. But for $299, I would say go and buy a nice bottle of red wine and take your mother out for dinner to a fine dine restaurant; She won't be here forever you know, but roulette and casinos probably will.

I see that Buck has increased the price from $37 to $99.

Ive changed the price as Ive sold enough now to know that it is worth it, Im not going to give it away, and I know how powerful it is. It works, plain and simple. Peoples feedback has been so well received. No negative complaints. Im not selling it to make $$$, thats far from the point, its my idea and satisfaction from other people that Im after. Anyways, Mike, you bank all your chips aside but will never lose more than your starting bank of 100 units, when and If you cant place a bet from those 100 units, you stop. EXAMPLE : You need to bet 28 units, you only have 20 units left, YOU STOP ($100) and add the savings up  . . . say $220 . . . TOTAL $320 = loss of $180. Bank management is key for this to be successful. The betting may be aggressive, but you NEVER EVER lose the whole bank, thats the best part. Wins are always around $300 and loss's around $300 also, but as there are way more wins - it produces a healthy profit. Thats why it works! I know certain people only believe in tracking wheels and visual balistics, that fine, Im sure it works, but its time consuming and difficult to acheive. This Strategy, once learnt, is walk in walk out, works everytime. Mike, when do you think it will be ready ?

Buck, using the 50 spins I posted, could you post alongside each number the running balance of the savings and bank? I'm not sure where the code is going astray from how the system should be played. Like I said, I'm pretty sure it's all ok apart from the quitting points. The progression and sequences are accurately coded.

Quote from: Buck on June 05, 2011, 06:20:56 AM
EXAMPLE : You need to bet 28 units, you only have 20 units left, YOU STOP ($100) and add the savings up  . . . say $220 . . . TOTAL $320 = loss of $180. Bank management is key for this to be successful. The betting may be aggressive, but you NEVER EVER lose the whole bank, thats the best part. Wins are always around $300 and loss's around $300 also, but as there are way more wins - it produces a healthy profit. Thats why it works! I know certain people only believe in tracking wheels and visual balistics, that fine, Im sure it works, but its time consuming and difficult to acheive. This Strategy, once learnt, is walk in walk out, works everytime. Mike, when do you think it will be ready ?

Buck,

However there is a possiblity where you will have a loss greater than $300 and you will lose the whole entire bank right from the start.  I know it's rare, and it may have not happened yet, but what if you lose your first 9 bets in your betting sequence BEFORE you even had the chance to accumulate any previous wins.  In this case, your losing session would be $400-$450+ no?

Hey Buck, I would be interested in purchasing.  How do I go about doing that.  Thanks. . . . . . . . . . . .  ;D

Good luck, queen. Certainly not everyone is capable of understanding the basics of beating roulette. Just leave it at advantage play is a scam. RBRBRBRBR and fairy science is legit.

Queen, email me. I have an opportunity for you... dont forget your return email address.

Mike - will work out tonight and ill email you.

Barcode - yes you are right, hasnt happened yet, but is possible, still not WHOLE bank though. Factor in some losing sessions are 150, some could be 400's and AVERAGE are 300.

Steve - Do you really have to be like that ?

Roulette Queen - you may purchase it at nolinks.cashbuilderx.com (nolinks://nolinks.cashbuilderx.com)

Thanks!

Buck you are missing something, and besides I am sitting here watching you scam people on my forum, even after the whole situation of your fake self-reviews. But people have been warned... and they are "grown ups" able to make their own decisions. In such a circumstance, people that stupid get what they... should expect.

Helping people win at roulette is not a scam, people have been winning with this strategy. See any negative complaints yet? NO. Exactly my point, this simple approach just works. I know you deal differently with roulette and thats fine, but havent we already covered tracks over the last 8 pages? Can it just be left alone now. Please. Thanks. And yes, people can make their own decisions.

Buck, nobody but me has done extensive testing. When others do, I dont doubt their conclusion.

Quote from: Buck on June 02, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
Mike
Tested those numbers . . .

Strategy finished at the number 5 red - couldnt continue

Loss of only $150
Thx

Buck, were you up $250 (50 units) at one point with those 50 numbers?

Bombus - from memory, yeah maybe a few more up, I know was one bet off reaching target, thats why as a losing session, it was so low.

According to my code, which I checked and it seems fine, those numbers resulted in a positive session of 62 units. At one point a stake of 40 units was needed, but this wasn't enough to take take the bank over -100.

Buck, if you have the time it would be helpful if you could work through a reasonable number of spins (say 50) from start to finish where each step is shown in detail. I know it's going to be tedious, but I want to get this 100% correct.

On second thoughts, I'll print the results to a file showing the details and then send you the results of the first 100 spins, then you can check to see if there are errors. Might be a while because I have to go out for a few hours.

If anyone else who has the system would like to see the file, send me a pm with your email address.

All indications  are  that BUCK is  the SELLER of the " cash builders  strategy' and  GINGER the  " SHILL" to ask the leading question  if it is any good.



That`s  how scam artists  work.


Nathan Detroit

Quote from: Nathan Detroit on June 06, 2011, 02:14:43 PM
All indications  are  that BUCK is  the seller of the " cash builders  strategy' and  Ginger the  " SHILL" to ask the leading question  if it is any good.



That`s  how scam artists  work.


Nathan Detroit

100% correct

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!

Let it go . . . geez . . .the guy lives in the netherlands, he emailed me before and said :

Hi Mike,

I am no member anymore of VLS , please can you place this message for me.

Dear roulette players,

After the message of Nathan it would be the right time to tell everybody that I feel sorry for the question I put by this forum.
I only asked a very simple question and see what happend a compleet out of control discussion , now I can understand why there is always a war somewere on this world.

I bought the system of Mike and in the beginning it needed a study but now after a couple of days it is comming slowly because I am only a beginner.

I live in Rotterdam, Holland

So if there is still anybody thinking it is  a scam please email me or come over to Rotterdam.

Greetings

John


Everyone still giving me grief, let it go.
Buck

Hey Mike

Looking forward to checking results. Either email me or inbox me here.

Cheers.

Now  what`s this: We got Ginger , Mike, Buck, and  John.

Like  H.S.T . once said : " If you can`t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen . "



WHO is  kidding WHOM ?

But please don`t sell   a  37 cent system for  99 cents .

It`s the usual farewell of  a scammer : You guys  are undeserving  so I am leaving.  A deja vue seen many times before.

Its not rocket science you dork

Ginger is John

Buck is Mike

DUH!

Buck, after what you pulled and what rubbish your system is and the fact that you're trying to sell it, you shouldnt even be here. You should expect the heat, because it is completely justified. If Ginger is you, it certainly wouldnt be the first time you created characters. If it isnt you, they have lots to learn, instead of complaining that you are getting heat.

The only reason you are here is for people to finish testing so they can be satisfied your method is nonsense. It is not in the slightest a personal thing. I'm maintaining a balance between free speech and keeping obvious garbage off the forum. Again, considering what you pulled, consider yourself very lucky to still be here or even that your posts are allowed to stay.

Quote from: Steve on June 06, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
...Again, considering what you pulled, consider yourself very lucky to still be here or even that your posts are allowed to stay...

I must agree. The way this was advertised is just wrong. Multiple accounts & multiple usernames giving fictitious recommendations, spamming, buying own product and leaving positive feedback on ebay, all very unethical behavior and completely unforgivable.
Whether the system is no good or not, Buck is very lucky to still be here for sure.

I know and agree. It was wrong and have apoligised SEVERAL times and also grateful to still be here. What more can I do?

Everyone that has the Strategy has been happy and winning, thats the point isnt it ?

QuoteEveryone that has the Strategy has been happy and winning, thats the point isnt it ?

No, I have the strategy, and have tested the working principle thoroughy, and am without any doubt it is completely ineffective.

You speak of people that have not yet conducted significant testing. How many times have people thought they had something, then tested a little more, and found they were wrong. Countless times.

Like I said, this thread will continue until people see the result.

I just want to say that I bought the Strategy when it came out at $29. 99, and have been playing this way ever since.
It works and works extremely well.  Ive been following this thread for a long time and its just getting ridiculous, seriously everyone is acting like little kids. 

Ill admit it took me near a week to play with real money though, but theres no other way I'd play.
Im playing it 4 times a week making over $1500 cash a week.  Simple.  Dont believe me? Ill be at Treasury in Brisbane tonight playing from 8pm.  .  . 

Well your ip is from brisbane, and yes you say you are from brisbane. And its no coincidence that Buck,Mike,SteveG are all from Brisbane.

Again I have the system and know it fails, as would anyone who has tested it properly.

I agree on one point. This thread is getting ridiculous. Your method of promotion is no different. Buck,Mike,SteveG.. and RDiva, who doesn't live in the same complex as you guys... but he's just next door.

You only admitted your misleading advertising when the IP addresses revealed the deception.

This is a winning strategy.

If anyone can show me where they lost more times with this, then just one question.

would you have won more in playing the opposite ?

Try playing all the EC's at the same time,

If you stop pissing on others ideas and look at what can be done then you will win.

Look at the rules for this play. there is a stop lost. start bet, first virtual. what more do you need.

If you are going for a test on it, try the next.

Take your 1 000 000 spins. put it in groups of 100 spins. start and stop with the rules. Then calculate your profit or lost at the end of the 1 mil spins.

If you are in profit stay with this, because then you understand it.

If you are in a lost , PLAY then opposite


I have posted a strategy, which I called, The Crack. On another forum, In principal it looks the same. Its working the same and only difference is that I use the last two spins action in playing for the next on the levels.

For those of you that can prove this wrong then you'll have prove of a winning play.

Have any of you seen this?

r  b  r  b r  b  r b  r  b  r  b  r  b  r  b
   b  r     r  b    b  r      r   b     b  r
       r        b        r          b         r

Nope!

For the guys selling this. Tweak it. there is a way in this for playing only 9 numbers.

Thanks
TCD

Twocando, you arent helping people, but you are free to give your own opinion. Congrats, you have the holy grail. Go and make millions. Or when you finally understand you can get the same results with RANDOM RBRBRBRBRB, then you will have progressed.

I would GLADLY eat my words, I truly would. This system is a scam, the seller is scamming people. If you find differently, play a little more. Even betting just red can come out as a profit after tens of thousands of spins. Does it make it a legitimate winning system?

Every week there is a new holy grail on the forums. AND WHAT IS ALWAYS THE RESULT? The only difference here is people have paid $29.99 for it (no free steak knives though).

people don't need to buy this.

I can post The Crack. Even the casino can't stop it. only if you play with the rules in The Crack then you will win.

But if I do the post will be removed. Its going to stop the sales on Genuine Winner and the other computers gadgets.


The golden rule in the crack is take what makes you win or lose and play it.

TCD :pleasantry: :pleasantry: :pleasantry:

But if I do the post will be removed. Its going to stop the sales on Genuine Winner and the other computers gadgets.

EXACTLY . . . .

Steve, you do your thing, we do ours, stop hating on everything from EVERYONE . . . geez

Quote from: Twocando on June 07, 2011, 04:17:49 AM
people don't need to buy this.

I can post The Crack. Even the casino can't stop it. only if you play with the rules in The Crack then you will win.

But if I do the post will be removed. Its going to stop the sales on Genuine Winner and the other computers gadgets.


The golden rule in the crack is take what makes you win or lose and play it.

TCD :pleasantry: :pleasantry: :pleasantry:

Good idea TCD.

Post The Crack!

The Crack for Idiots version, please. God know's I'm one. :)

"Pardon me, but what a load of BULLSHIT. Your ip is from brisbane, and yes you say you are from brisbane. And its no coincidence that Buck,Mike,SteveG are all from Brisbane" >>>  :thumbsup:

Uh ok My J  . . . . nice work sherlock.  :ok:

Im from the Gold Coast anyway. Not Brisbane.

Pointless post. Im sure this has been established over the last 5 pages. Let it GO.

Hey, this is what comes with SALES, get use to it.


Ken

AHHHH I LOVE IT!

IVE DECIDED FOR 3 DAYS ONLY - ANYONE WHO DOES'NT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS . . .
My proof to you

CAN BUY IT FOR $20 ! Yep . . . . .

nolinks.cashbuilderx.com (nolinks://nolinks.cashbuilderx.com)

So for 20 bucks, try it and then come back and let us know . . . THATS HOW CONFIDENT I AM.
Its not bout the money, hence the price, its about PROVING to all the HATERS that this IS THE BEST WAY to attack roulette and WIN money, everytime you visit the CASINO . . . . .looking forward to the replies . . . this is sure to shut them all up . . . .

Quote from: Buck on June 07, 2011, 05:49:02 AM
AHHHH I LOVE IT!

IVE DECIDED FOR 3 DAYS ONLY - ANYONE WHO DOES'NT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS . . .
My proof to you

CAN BUY IT FOR $20 ! Yep . . . . .

nolinks.cashbuilderx.com (nolinks://nolinks.cashbuilderx.com)

So for 20 bucks, try it and then come back and let us know . . . THATS HOW CONFIDENT I AM.
Its not bout the money, hence the price, its about PROVING to all the HATERS that this IS THE BEST WAY to attack roulette and WIN money, everytime you visit the CASINO . . . . .looking forward to the replies . . . this is sure to shut them all up . . . .

My opinion.

I have never pay any money for roulette systems for sale and i will never do.
There is one exception - if Kim Larsen would sell i would pay.

My 2 cent.
Why would one sell roulette system instead of making money with there roulette system and keep it for them self.

Cookies I agree with what you are saying.

Have sold a few already at the $20 . . . so I'll be interested to see their comments soon. Thats the point.
Not one person who has bought it has come on here and said otherwise, strange after this long . . . .especially if it wasnt doing what it says it does.

Im selling it for satisfaction of my idea. Its mine and i own it. I dont think anything should be free. Winning the $$$$ is free . . . haha.

When people win, I want it to be because of my idea. I do make money off playing. No different than Steve selling his Genuine Winner . . .

QuoteIts going to stop the sales on Genuine Winner and the other computers gadgets.

Yes, thats what my problem is!.. it couldnt possibly be that:

1. You spammed fake positive reviews all over the internet, including here
2. That I actually have this system, tested it properly, and know it is useless.

Twocando, if you are winning real money, thats great. But dont expect it to continue, and losses could have been avoided if you did proper testing. If I'm wrong, great for you, go make your millions. Nominate buck for the nobel prize.

Buck, if you truly believe the system is effective, you have a lot to learn. It is a sequence of RBRBRB which is exactly the same as a random RBRBRB. Test properly, then you can give people a refund when you know better. Like I said, every week a new holy grail is invented, then revealed as rubbish. The difference here is this one costs money.

HAHA Steve, ok, ok , okkkkkkkkk . . . . you keep saying the same things over and over. Ive sold a few at the $20 price, so lets just wait and hear some REAL feedback ok, hopefully soon as.

You may not like my Strategy, but Im winning everyday playing like this, and I totally disagree that one magic day it will just stop working altogether. I accept losing sessions, they have to happen, but winning is so much more frequent. Bank managment is key, not just the selections, not to mention only needing 3 wins from 10 spins to keep the profits coming in. That math says something.

I made $830 today in 4 hours. . . . yeah, must of been a fluke huh. I dare you to even go try it EVERYDAY at Crown for one week, EXACTLY as the strategy says. I know you will win $$$. If you show me a loss over the week, I'll give you a $1000 cash as long as you can prove all your sessions/results. Im not stupid, this just works. Stop searching for the impossible.

People are winning with this method. End of Story. How many have written on here (apart from you) That they bought it, tried it and it didnt work???? ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO . . . thats right. Im not having a go at you mate but please, stop being negative.

Buck

Buck, you've already shown us just how "honest" you can be. Dont forget I have your system too, and know what it is and isnt.

Can you please explain how a test of 500,000 spins showed that your RBRB sequence gave no change in accuracy of predictions? And can you explain how the staking plan overcomes the complete lack of increase in accuracy?

Please, explain it. You cant even understand the relevance.

The only positive feedback you've had is either faked (you were exposed), or from people that havent tested properly yet. Let's see after more testing.

Its not the sequence thats suppose to have more accuracy. Obviously. Thats just selection, with both Red and black at the same time. Combined with betting strategy and bank management - it just WORKS effectively.

You didnt answer the question. you just proved my point that you dont understand. You come up with a system that is typically made by someone playing roulette for perhaps the 3rd time, and sell it by giving fake reviews under fake names.

Plus you are saying your method doesn't win by increasing accuracy of predictions. Nevermind buck. I cant be bothered educating you.

Take your scam elsewhere. This has gone on long enough and I've banned you. If someone like Bombus or another tester I trust find the system is what you claim and I verify it, I'll let you back on, publicly apologize, and pay you $100,000 as per nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/100k.html)

But I'm damn sure that will never happen because I already did my own testing, and clearly your system doesn't increase accuracy of predictions. There is absolutely no other way to win consistently. To say otherwise is like saying 1 + 1 = 5. It is not an argument or opinion, it is fact.

Dont take it personally. You are clearly new to roulette and dont understand the most basic principles of serious play. We are not all idiots here. If you had the "holy grail", you sure wouldnt sell it for $20, and you certainly wouldnt spam all over forums under fake names giving false positive reviews.

It's easy to say a system can predict the next number, if you use the history of spins.

Using all kinds of skills, AP , VB , tools, tilt, bias wheel, etc..  and then still put the win up for LUCK.

conditions for play depends on weather, scatter, rev of spin, size and type of ball, etc...

Playing numbers on the layout and then numbers to the cylinder, hot and cold. Hot chicks and cold beer is better.

All spins are random and the numbers will equal out. Flipping the coin hahahahaha

some claim there is an attraction between numbers, mirror, twins, cousins, etc. One happy family ???

Well this is all fine, but why do you still lose?



Something is happening, making you win and lose and you need to use this for winning.


This is The Crack.    Yes even if it for Idiots the why not. it works.

I would really like to see numbers keeping a rhythm like in a waltz.

the beat ---   1 , 2 , 3 ,1 , 2 , 3 .....

My questions is why is the cashbuilder then a losing system? If it doesn't work what is wrong with it?


Even if I post The Crack there will be guys saying its not working. So maybe its for Idiots, doing everything to the rules and winning.

In the Cashbuilder there is a couple of times that you will have a NO BET. This is not the case in the crack. There will be a bet on each spin.

It is nice to predict 5 numbers with in the next 3 spins.

Thanks for reading this.

TCD   

I think it's time to call an end to this. The simulation is done and, as expected, the results are negative. Here are the results of a typical run of 1 million spins -

total profits: 1024022
total losses: 1265288
no. winning sessions = 16287
no. losing sessions = 21140

As you can see, the losses exceed the profits by roughly the house edge. Contrary to Buck's claim, there are more losing sessions than winning ones. I haven't produced a detailed print-out of results because it's going to need more work and time, and frankly I've lost interest. I've already spent several hours on it and am certain the algorithm is correct. If anyone wants a detailed print-out they're going to have to pay for it.

Quote from: Twocando on June 08, 2011, 03:56:32 AM
Something is happening, making you win and lose and you need to use this for winning.

It's called the house edge, and you can't "use" it for winning. Sorry.

Quote from: Steve link=topic=18773. msg137120#msg137120 date=1307489191
.  Like I said, every week a new holy grail is invented, then revealed as rubbish.  The difference here is this one costs money.

no one has ever proved that flat betting red or black until +1 is rubbish. . .
:D

Thanks Mike.

Quoteno one has ever proved that flat betting red or black until +1 is rubbish. . .

Sure they have. Do it 1,000,000 separate times. The result is no different to random RB.

It all comes down to "you need to increase accuracy of predictions", and it cant be done with hocus pocus.

Quote from: Twocando on June 08, 2011, 03:56:32 AM
It's easy to say a system can predict the next number, if you use the history of spins.

Using all kinds of skills, AP , VB , tools, tilt, bias wheel, etc..  and then still put the win up for LUCK.

conditions for play depends on weather, scatter, rev of spin, size and type of ball, etc...

Playing numbers on the layout and then numbers to the cylinder, hot and cold. Hot chicks and cold beer is better.

All spins are random and the numbers will equal out. Flipping the coin hahahahaha

some claim there is an attraction between numbers, mirror, twins, cousins, etc. One happy family ???

Well this is all fine, but why do you still lose?



Something is happening, making you win and lose and you need to use this for winning.


This is The Crack.    Yes even if it for Idiots the why not. it works.

I would really like to see numbers keeping a rhythm like in a waltz.

the beat ---   1 , 2 , 3 ,1 , 2 , 3 .....

My questions is why is the cashbuilder then a losing system? If it doesn't work what is wrong with it?


Even if I post The Crack there will be guys saying its not working. So maybe its for Idiots, doing everything to the rules and winning.

In the Cashbuilder there is a couple of times that you will have a NO BET. This is not the case in the crack. There will be a bet on each spin.

It is nice to predict 5 numbers with in the next 3 spins.

Thanks for reading this.

TCD   

Post "the crack"

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If you meant the crack in roulette, revealed by buck's system, it doesnt exist. I could sum up the system in one sentence as "just a sequence of RB to bet after, with a useless money management strategy"

Now  we  have had  a demonstration of  the crack !!! But I would  have rather seen the  crack of " DAWN".