Hi Mr. Li,
I'm here in your section like you said, what is the first things you can advice me of? ;D
Thanks
PT
Hello PT,
There are so many different approaches to studying roulette. I am curious, why would you be interested in the Kimo Li way?
Frankly, I do not want to waste my time. You are new to the forum which leads me to believe you are seeking, like most people, a quick way to make a lot of money. If so, this method is not for you. You have to do a lot of studying. Kimo Li followers would agree, even the non-believers will be quick to tell you it's a waste of time.
There are a lot lingoes and terms tied to learning the Global Pie Method. It's like learning a new language.
As Carpanta said to you on the "JUST INFO" post, my books has been around for a while.
Are you a single zero or a double zero roulette wheel player?, Internet or B and M (brick and mortar) player?
Kimo Li
Hello Mr. Li,
Thank you for your time. I was reading Carpanta's post and he said, (Followers of Kimo Li's teachings will understand what I propose here. Those who don't understand Kimo's strategies won't see the plan. ) I found that interesting. I wanted to know what he was talking about. I followed his advice. I ordered your books on Amazon. I'll have it in two days. Then Carpanta said to read your post. I am reading all of your posts. Some things don't make sense. I don't know.
I play the double zero wheel. I like playing outside bets, mostly dozens, but my friend plays streets and inside bets. I am willing to learn if you are willing to teach.
Regards
PT
hi PokerTwist,
I agree with Kimo that usually people who dabble with his information about the wheel, matrix etc... will in the end find that it's just a waste of time (and most if not all, are looking for a quick way to make lots of money).
it's always good to see new people interested to discover what Kimo's methods are all about. Yes, I am studying his methods, and yes I have his book too (I am using European Wheel). You will see things in a totally different view.
But there's a LOT of studying. a lot of disappointment, and then discovery and then awareness.
if you ask me what I think, I would say "Definitely worth my time and effort to master it."
The Global Pies and the Matrix which Kimo invented are really masterpieces.
Welcome to the road less traveled, Mr PokerTwist. :) it is not easy, but I am very sure you will learn something of value.
loungeplayer
Hello PT,
Lets' get you started. I am going to show you how important it is to know where the numbers lay on the roulette wheel, and how it correlates with the table layout.
The American roulette wheel has 38 numbers. For the moment, ignore the zeros. Divide the wheel into six sectors, beginning with the number 28.
Section one: 28, 9, 26, 30, 11, and 7
Section five: 20, 32, 17, 5, 22, and 34
Section three: 15, 3, 24, 36, 13, and 1
Things to note so far:
Section one is called section one because it is next to the single (1) zero
Section five is called section five because it is in the section
Section three is called section three because it is in the section
Sections 1, 5, and 3 are called the ODD half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are odd numbers:
The other half of the wheel:
Section two: 27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 8
Section six: 19, 31, 18, 6, 21, and 33
Section four: 16, 4, 23, 35, 14, and 2
Things to note this time:
Section two is called section two because it is next to the double (2) zero
Section six is called section six because section six is in the section
Section four is called section four because section four is in the section
Sections 2, 6, and 4 are called the EVEN half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are even numbers.
You will see this in my book.
What am I suppose to do with this information?
Every time a number comes up, you will be able to keep track on what side of the wheel the ball is favoring, the odd half or the even half. This is basic visual tracking.
I noticed your post name is PokerTwist. Like a "poker tell", I shall equate knowing which half of the wheel the ball is landing as "a roulette tell".
End of lesson one.
Kimo Li
Hi loungeplayer,
Nice to hear from you. Happy to see things are well. Thanks for the good word.
Kimo Li
@Kimo
happy to see you posting here too. the pleasure is mine, you are great.
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 24, 2011, 11:03:10 AM
I am curious, why would you be interested in the Kimo Li way
What is the 'Kimo Li way', exactly. I've read your books
and there's no betting strategy, you don't tell the player
where to place the next bet. Thats all anybody cares
about, how to win. We already know how to behave in
a casino and what the wheel looks like. How about
practical methods to win, where are they..
Hello Cheese,
I don't recall having a conversation with you in the past. Nor, do I think you have ever sent me a private message asking about Global Pies. If you did, I don't remember.
I had a website a few years ago that explained the skip and run method, which is old as the beginning of roulette.
Here it is. There are six sectors and you keep track of each sector using a spreadsheet. Each column represents a sector. You determine which sectors are coming and mark them as the spins are generated. For example, using just one section, American wheel, the results look like this: 7, 29, 11, 30, 16, 35, 28, 14, 6, 9
Section 1
7 X
29
11 X
30 X
16
35
28 X
14
6
9 X
You do this for all sections.
Here's the key. There are six numbers in each section, which means if you were to bet one section for six times you will lose one chip if it hits on the sixth spin.
If you know that section one is going to come in at least once within the next six spins, you will profit, a small progression will keep you ahead.
The betting strategy is a little bit more complex than explained above. I just wanted to show you how skip and run plays a big part.
So that is the premise behind Kimo Li's way, the skip and run tracking. It's not for everyone.
But, for the very few, they don't say anything because why should they, like you said, "Thats all anybody cares about, how to win."
They want to keep it to themselves.
BTW, in regards to the post I explained to PT, knowing where the ball lands with high frequency is a very powerful tell.
Best Regards,
Kimo Li
thanx Kimo!
Hello Mr. Li,
I am sitting here reading the posts. Thank you, for lesson one. I haven't received your book yet but I did see on Amazon look inside on page six, you explain why you label your sectors the way you do.
Don't get me wrong, but the "roulette tell" of which side of the wheel the ball is landing is interesting. But how does that make money? I like to bet outside bets.
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but all I want to do is jump in the car, turn the engine on, and drive. I don't want to know how the engine was built, how much horse power, who engineered it. I just want to take the top off, drive, and let the wind hit my face. Is that so wrong?
@ loungerplayer,
Thanks for your encouragement. It seems like a LOT of work. I guess you can say I am in it for the money. I just want to have a method where I can follow step by step, bet, and win.
Thanks
PT
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on September 25, 2011, 02:52:45 PM
Hello Mr. Li,
I am sitting here reading the posts. Thank you, for lesson one. I haven't received your book yet but I did see on Amazon look inside on page six, you explain why you label your sectors the way you do.
Don't get me wrong, but the "roulette tell" of which side of the wheel the ball is landing is interesting. But how does that make money? I like to bet outside bets.
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but all I want to do is jump in the car, turn the engine on, and drive. I don't want to know how the engine was built, how much horse power, who engineered it. I just want to take the top off, drive, and let the wind hit my face. Is that so wrong?
@ loungerplayer,
Thanks for your encouragement. It seems like a LOT of work. I guess you can say I am in it for the money. I just want to have a method where I can follow step by step, bet, and win.
Thanks
PT
u have to take it easy bud, and be very patient. othewise it will not work. sorry, no gold on a blue plate.
nobody is gonna teach u from scratch to expert level. if u r there for easy half- a-day learning and then starting making money, it's not gonna be like that. it's lots of hard work
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on September 25, 2011, 02:52:45 PM
I am sitting here reading the posts. Thank you, for lesson one. I haven't received your book yet but I did see on Amazon look inside on page six, you explain why you label your sectors the way you do.
Don't get me wrong, but the "roulette tell" of which side of the wheel the ball is landing is interesting. But how does that make money? I like to bet outside bets.
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but all I want to do is jump in the car, turn the engine on, and drive. I don't want to know how the engine was built, how much horse power, who engineered it. I just want to take the top off, drive, and let the wind hit my face. Is that so wrong?
That sounds wonderful, PT. Problem is when it crashes and refuses to let you have the wind on your face as usual.
Then you have to pay for getting it fit again. Somebody will seize money from you to do the job you neglect.
In roulette game that somebody is the Casino. Ergo, you'll continue paying for the fun of the game while you keep this mindset.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Hello PT,
It's a shame that you feel the way you do. As you can see, the post from the veterans, you need to pay your dues.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo,
I'll just wait for my book to arrive. I'll comment after I read it. Meanwhile, please accept my apologies.
PT
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 25, 2011, 04:21:17 AM
Here's the key. There are six numbers in each section, which means if you were to bet one section for six times you will lose one chip if it hits on the sixth spin. If you know that section one is going to come in at least once within the next six spins, you will profit, a small progression will keep you ahead.
But you can't know that any section will come in at all, its impossible. Section one isn't 'due', any more than any other section.
Hello cheese,
That's the difference between you and I. I know when section one will come in, 2,3,4,5,and 6.
Kimo Li
Hello,
This thread is about learning the Kimo Li way. It's not the "Too good to be true" thread or the "Impossible" thread. I am going to ignore the irrelevant comments and continue to post to those who want to learn.
I do appreciate and welcome any comments. I am indifferent and impervious to any skeptics. You see I remember way back in my life, watching TV and seeing man walk on the moon. Then there was a time I could not read or write because teachers did not understand that I learn things differently. Once a college counselor told me to go to a trade school because I did not have what it takes to graduate. Each time I proved them wrong. Then someone dear to me said roulette is impossible to beat. Guess what?
They were right about one thing. You cannot teach someone who has a closed mind. Open your mind. Let the universe give you what you want and you shall achieve. I suggest you read, "Excuse Me, Your Life is Waiting" by Lynn Grabhorn. It's about living the secret.
Kimo Li
If you haven't figured it out yet. This thread is for beginners.
Lesson two:
Memorize each section. I won't go into details as to how. That is taught intensively in my book. If you can memorize it a different way, I don't care. Just memorize it.
Section one: 28, 9, 26, 30, 11, 7
Section five: 20, 32, 17, 5, 22, 34
Section three: 15, 3, 24, 36, 13, 1
Section two: 27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 8
Section six: 19, 31, 18, 6, 21, 33
Section four: 16, 4, 23, 35, 14, 2
What do you know? It's the Matrix.
28, 09, 26, 30, 11, 07
20, 32, 17, 05, 22, 34
15, 03, 24, 36, 13,01
27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 08
19, 31, 18, 06, 21, 33
16, 04, 23, 35, 14, 02
End of lesson two: I'll wait until everyone interested is finished. Then, on to lesson three.
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 12:34:18 AM
Lesson two:
Memorize each section.
Good lord, why??? I've never been in a casino that
barred you from writing down whatever you like.
Just write the sections down on the roulette card
the casino provides. Or do like I do, the card I carry
with me and use has the wheel on the back of it,
right there for my use. And the casino gave me the
card!
Hello cheese,
There are several types of individuals that read my book and ask themselves, "What the hell is he writing about; there is no strategies; and then there are the ones that say, wow I can use this."
I am not going to state the obvious. So be it. State you peace and move on, unless you want to make it personal, then that's a different issue. I can only control my actions. Therefore, I choose to stay the course and teach beginners. They can take it or leave it. That's the beauty of choice and control.
BTW, lesson 45 will actually teach you what to do with all these statistics. Those who make it that far are making money. There are those who fall short of that goal and they have their own reasons.
I am not making money by giving all this free information. However, I do remember having this conversation with you before. It went no where.
If you need help, just ask. Here's a question, I see no strategies in your book, would you show me one? I want to learn about the Phoenix strategy. How does that work?
Instead of, the book tells me nothing. There is no strategy, just a bunch of statistics.
Right now I am on lesson two for beginners. If you don't want to learn, that is your choice.
The section is Kimo Li Shares, not discredit Kimo. Cheese, share some of your strategies with me so I can agree, disagree, or be indifferent. I'd like to read something of substance from you. I am all ears. But start your own thread, The Cheese Way, and I will give you my opinion, for what it's worth.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 02:13:52 AM
Right now I am on lesson two for beginners. If you don't want to learn, that is your choice.
I asked a question, I'm curious. Why on earth memorize the sections
when you can write them down or quickly refer to them on your roulette
scorecard?
Hello cheese,
I would compare writing down numbers on a piece of paper to a regular soldier fighting on the front lines. Memorizing the numbers in your head is like Special Forces. I am a professional. I will teach others to be a professional. It's that simple.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo,
Besides the scepticism from cheese, I've been reading the thread and your lessons. I truly believe I am grabbing the bull by its horns and can't wait to read more when your books come in tomorrow. If you have time, I am also interested in being privately taught.
Appreciate it,
PT
PT,
Because of you, this thread was started. I may be able to help you. Check your PM.
Kimo Li
Hello cheese,
I love a good debate. Do you have a method which I can praise or discredit? Talk is cheap. You are too scared to put yourself out there, because you have no original ideas. Show me the cheese way of winning so I too can discredit your concepts. What's that? You have none? That's what I thought.
Kimo Li
I back up Kimo Li's teachings. I not only read his European Roulette book but I also studied it.
It is worth the time i spent with it.
Now I am a GPM player which means i know all his strategies by heart.
Those strategies implies the use of matrices. Matrices help me track events. All events (roulette outcomes) have frecuency and secuency. These concepts are inherent to those events. Time and Space. When they appear and How they arrange themselves,
When in Europe is dark night in Australia is day light. When something is not showing something else is overrated.
Both things cant be at the same time.
These concepts are concelead in Kimo Li's GPM. I was able to discover them by digging in his ideas.
If i had only read the book, now it would be one more of many in my library.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
What's that? You have none? That's what I thought.
Apparently, neither do you. Don't hold your breath
waiting for Kimo Li to tell you where the winning
bet goes, he's clueless in that area. He's large on
theory and short on the action...
The difference between you and I is, I may talk about
theory, but I never ever pretend to tell people how to
win. I go out of my way not to do that.
I also advocate Kimo li ways.Even if i toyed with other ideas,GPM is what i work with,still learning though..trying to move from betting 9 numbers to 6 and maybe even 3.And yes it is possible,and no im not rich....yet.
Thanks kimo for all your help.Please go on with this thread.Many appreciate it,including me :good:
Hi all! I am also all about ears! Thanks to Kimo. :)
Timo
iggiv, Carpanta, Seykid, and loungeplayer, and others
Thank you for your kind words and support.
I want to share a concept to show why beginners need to learn the basics in order to appreciate advanced principles.
"What do you know? It's the Matrix."
I am going to explain something about the Matrix. The Matrix is not in my books. One thing I did mention in my book is that "all numbers are star numbers". No matter how you divide the wheel into six sections starting at any number (excluding the zeros) the star numbers, which are the numbers that are vertical, for example, 28, 20, 15, 27, 19, and 16 will never change. Look below and you will see what I mean. Each Matrix has moved one number. Yet the star numbers have not changed. That is one constant that I can rely on. Advance players know how to use this information. Beginners this is something to ponder.
28, 09, 26, 30, 11, 07
20, 32, 17, 05, 22, 34
15, 03, 24, 36, 13, 01
27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 08
19, 31, 18, 06, 21, 33
16, 04, 23, 35, 14, 02
09, 26, 30, 11, 07, 20
32, 17, 05, 22, 34, 15
03, 24, 36, 13, 01, 27
10, 25, 29, 12, 08, 19
31, 18, 06, 21, 33, 16
04, 23, 35, 14, 02, 28
26, 30, 11, 07, 20, 32
17, 05, 22, 34, 15, 03
24, 36, 13, 01, 27, 10
25, 29, 12, 08, 19, 31
18, 06, 21, 33, 16, 04
23, 35, 14, 02, 28, 09
30, 11, 07, 20, 32, 17
05, 22, 34, 15, 03, 24
36, 13, 01, 27, 10, 25
29, 12, 08, 19, 31, 18
06, 21, 33, 16, 04, 23
35, 14, 02, 28, 09, 26
etc
Kimo Li
I too thank you for your lessons and hope to hear more! Later today I'll fill you in on what I think of the books. ;)
Appreaciate it,
PT
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 11:14:36 AM
iggiv, Carpanta, Seykid, and loungeplayer, and others
Thank you for your kind words and support.
I want to share a concept to show why beginners need to learn the basics in order to appreciate advanced principles.
"What do you know? It's the Matrix."
I am going to explain something about the Matrix. The Matrix is not in my books. One thing I did mention in my book is that "all numbers are star numbers". No matter how you divide the wheel into six sections starting at any number (excluding the zeros) the star numbers, which are the numbers that are vertical, for example, 28, 20, 15, 27, 19, and 16 will never change. Look below and you will see what I mean. Each Matrix has moved one number. Yet the star numbers have not changed. That is one constant that I can rely on. Advance players know how to use this information. Beginners this is something to ponder.
28, 09, 26, 30, 11, 07
20, 32, 17, 05, 22, 34
15, 03, 24, 36, 13, 01
27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 08
19, 31, 18, 06, 21, 33
16, 04, 23, 35, 14, 02
09, 26, 30, 11, 07, 20
32, 17, 05, 22, 34, 15
03, 24, 36, 13, 01, 27
10, 25, 29, 12, 08, 19
31, 18, 06, 21, 33, 16
04, 23, 35, 14, 02, 28
26, 30, 11, 07, 20, 32
17, 05, 22, 34, 15, 03
24, 36, 13, 01, 27, 10
25, 29, 12, 08, 19, 31
18, 06, 21, 33, 16, 04
23, 35, 14, 02, 28, 09
30, 11, 07, 20, 32, 17
05, 22, 34, 15, 03, 24
36, 13, 01, 27, 10, 25
29, 12, 08, 19, 31, 18
06, 21, 33, 16, 04, 23
35, 14, 02, 28, 09, 26
etc
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo Li
Interesting all this Matrix s , know why ?
Because I use some similar(not same) matrix s from a few years now.
First take a look at the excel file I have attached(for european roulette wheel)
You and me may think differently or very similar, do not know yet,
what I do is track 6 movements looking from the last number spun,
than bet one or two hot movements for the next 6 spins.
That Gs from the excel file are each one 1 movement from the last Nr.
G1 are the first 6 numbers from the last number spun , then G2 are the next
6 numbers(clockwise always), then G3 the next 6 numbers...so on ...till G6.
I want to know your way
cheers
@Cheese you need to read the Four Agreements. enjoy your discrediting, I am quite sure Kimo won't be there to keep feeding your ego. Your attitude determines your altitude mate.
@ for the rest of the fellow players interested / studying Kimo's materials, read and ponder what Kimo shares. This teacher is unique, he doesn't spoon-feed. That's why his strategies are 'encrypted' in his books, so to speak.
@ Carpanta, thanks for sharing your ideas and views with our long-distance phonecalls. Carpanta, is one of the few whom I know, who really knows the matrix, Quads, Stars, Pies, all by heart and very generous in sharing ideas if you rea really sincere in learning. Winning at roulette? Yes, he can do it.
@ Kimo Dear teacher, please continue your lessons here. This is a forum, characters and attitudes like Cheese is displaying are common. There are enough willing ears here keen to learn from you. Thank you in advance.
:)
loungeplayer
Quote from: loungeplayer on September 26, 2011, 09:57:38 PM
@Cheese you need to read the Four Agreements. enjoy your discrediting, I am quite sure Kimo won't be there to keep feeding your ego.
Look people, Kimo Li's books are SELF PUBLISHED. This means he
took them to legit publishers and they laughed at him, so he had
to go to the vanity press and write THEM a check to publish his
nonsense. If he could win at roulette on a regular basis, he'd be
in the casino doing it and not selling demo's on Ebay for 5 bucks a
pop. Think about it..
It's Facebook, not Ebay. Get it right. Yes, it's 5 bucks and I offered it for free to you because you needed a demo, you declined.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 10:12:31 PM
Yes it's 5 bucks and I offered it for free to you because you needed a demo, you declined.
It doesn't work, why would I want even for free. I read your
books, remember?
I think you are afraid to test my demo because it will prove you wrong
Kimo Li
@ Cheese, you must be new here at VLS. or the max, 1-2 years.
you have no idea who Kimo is.
he published his books yes. and he also shared his books (Yes, both books) for FREE, here at VLS. FREE. repeat after me, FREE. what? you didn't know that?
ok, go out and play you little kid. Moderators who are reading this, please take note. We have enough interested members here wanting to discuss and learn from Kimo in this thread. Please adjust and take appropriate actions needed to stop Cheese before we all move to PMs and private email discussions.
@ Kimo, we are behind you. It's a sunny day and I am grateful that you have started this thread of lessons. Appreciated. And I have your DEMO excel file. It is GREAT. keep at it.
:-) Smile teacher. High five.
loungeplayer
Kimo Li can you continue showing your way,now this thread is about arguing who is better >:(.Losing it again like so many good threads.So please go on with the Matrix.Concerning the Stars numbers i already notice that,i have your book for 2 years now,this thing was visble.So how we go about exploiting this constant.Thank you. :whistle:
Quote from: seykid29 on September 27, 2011, 01:01:12 AM
So how we go about exploiting this constant.Thank you.
You can't. Roulette is ruled by randomness, there are
no 'constant' results. There is no consistency. It changes
from spin to spin. Anybody that tells you he has charts
or graphs or tables that are reliable for roulette, is lying.
Roulette can only be beaten by studying its random nature
and flowing with it.
Seriously..
Welcome to the concept of time and how it applies to the Global Pie.
Roulette players look at numbers as one continuous, endless string of numbers. I manipulate time by blocking them in six number increments, because sectors contain six numbers.
The key to keeping track of results is to block six spins at a time, and tracking how many times each sector has come in.
How does that translate to a strategy? I'll let you guys talk among yourselves about that.
How does one overcome the mathematical disadvantage? I let the math gurus ponder that one.
Like loungeplayer said, I don't spoon feed, I actually make you think.
Kimo Li
I believe randomness has a footprint. I believe randomness can be categorized. I believe money management plays an important role in winning. I also believe discipline is crucial.
ok.Getting to the 6 block thing.Let us say we track each sector and star for 6 spins.we play dominant in each.
Or we dominant stars in dominant sector??
example spins
spins 30 24 8 29 21 2
stars 1 3 6 4 5 6
sector 1 3 2 2 6 4
we play all stars 6,numbers 7,8,2,1,33,34 and sector 2 27,10,25,29,12,8 for 6 spins each
or we play just 8 for 6 spins,dominant star in dominant sector.
As Kimo wont say much for now,maybe others can give an idea,Carpanta,Iggiv,Lounge player?????????
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 01:57:21 AM
I believe randomness has a footprint. I believe randomness can be categorized.
Randomness has no 'footprint', thats rather the point of it.
Randomness cannot be categorized, pinned down, or boxed
it. It can't predicted, it can't be trained or tracked. Random
outcomes have no memory. All you have to go on is experience
and educated guesses. The next spin changes everything every
time.
seykid29, generally speaking (really generally), i would use dominant pie or pies. or even half-pie (Quad)
so Lounge player,you telling me not to go for dominant stars???
Or maybe in this case dominant pie was 2,and star 6,
Play pie 3,2,6 stars 6 Numbers 1,8,33 or 18 numbers 13,1,27,21,33,16,12,8,19
But 18 numbers too much numbers.
QuoteRandomness has no 'footprint', thats rather the point of it.
Randomness cannot be categorized, pinned down, or boxed
it. It can't predicted, it can't be trained or tracked. Random
outcomes have no memory. All you have to go on is experience
and educated guesses. The next spin changes everything every
time.
You are absolutely 100 percent correct random is random in the pure sense of the word.
That is not debatable. I guess that ends that, you win.
Perhaps, educated guesses can be categorized, tracked, pinned down, and boxed to have a favorable outcome. Thanks for pointing that out.
I no longer believe that randomness can be categorized. It is my educated guesses that can be categorized, extreme revelation.
no, not really. in my own opinion, it depends on how many numbers you are going to use.
you are using American wheel which I am totally not familiar with, however the methodology should be similar.
you already know the Pies and Stars and the Matrix (I know that from the many emails we exchanged in the past one year). what you need to fine-tune and study, is the timing and the FREQUENCY (not just dominant).
something to ponder a while..
Seykid,
Star numbers are used as a strategy only when the randomness on the ball fail to provide a dominant sector. The reasoning behind that theory is you will have a 1 in 6 chance of hitting your numbers. I would recommend the Quads strategy when there is a defining pattern of randomness, I mean educated guess.
Kimo Li
So in simple terms,track 6 spins play dominant sector for 6 spins..or if no dominant sector,play dominant stars???
Seykid,
This is a thread for beginners. I will email you from my private email.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 02:41:29 AM
Perhaps, educated guesses can be categorized, .
Nope, guesses by their very nature cannot be categorized. Nothing in
roulette can be pinned down, if it could be it would have been beaten
200 years ago.
LP,
I think your'e showing too much.
Kimo Li
Thanks LP
got your message on that showing of information part, thanks Kimo :)
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 02:50:39 AM
I would recommend the Quads strategy when there is a defining pattern of randomness
Please post an example of a 'defining pattern of randomness'. One that
can't change on the very next spin. Thanks.
Cheese,
LP briefly posted an example of a defining pattern of randomness which I immediately pointed out, it was too much information. Sorry, LP was in violation of disclosure. But all is fine now.
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 03:07:12 AM
Seykid,
This is a thread for beginners. I will email you from my private email.
Kimo Li
Please do.Eager to learn more.Thanks in advance.
LP,
Let's talk about the importance of memorizing the roulette numbers on the roulette wheel
yes sir! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 03:26:42 AM
LP,
Let's talk about the importance of memorizing the roulette numbers on the roulette wheel
Sorry LP. Please give your opinion on the importance of memorizing the numbers on the roulette wheel.
You know I am kidding.
Kimo Li
Can you post an example of a 'defining pattern of randomness'. One that
can't change on the very next spin. Thanks.
haha Kimo, of course. ;D
here's my opinion on why I think memorizing the wheel is so important (instead of referring to the wheel picture casinos provide at the tables):
(1) you'll know at a glance at the current moment (for example: past 6 spins, which sectors are hot and hitting)
instead of busy marking the wheel and then finding the numbers on the betting screen or betting layout.
(2) by knowing the sectors in a categorized way, you can see clearly which sectors co-relate to each other (for example: opposite sectors. In GPM language, that is a Bow-Tie ball movement)
(3) you can choose to use any methods to remember the wheel. Most people remember the wheel in a circular way,
Zero, 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2 etc....
For myself, I find Global Pie Method (GPM) the most useful way. You can even see stars (similar to spokes in a bicycle wheel) to pin point on which exact spot the ball landed on in that particular pie (sector).
(4) For speed and advantage to us players. The casino is constantly trying their best to employ counter measures, to make it difficult for advantage players to profit consistently. With the wheel memorized in a systematic way, I am using my energy in seeing which sectors to profit on, rather than marking and trying to remember: "erm... let me see.. where is 32? here.. . no no .. here.. ok, where is 11? etc...."
my 2 cents here. credits to Kimo.
ok, tea-break time for me.. haha
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
Sorry LP. Please give your opinion on the importance of memorizing the numbers on the roulette wheel.
You know I am kidding.
Hey Kimo,
I received your books today. Wow I must say, each book is different and teaches the same things. I can't put it down. I find it very interesting. I like how you figured out how the wheel was created. By the way, I went to your facebook and bought your DEMO spreadsheet. It's helping me understand your strategy.
Thank you very much,
PT
PT,
Thanks for the good words. Tell me more when you finish the book.
Kimo Li
Kimo,
Sure thing, tomorrow I'll fill you in. For tonight, I'll try to be catching up on what you guys have been talking about. ;)
Appreciate it,
PT
keep going PokerTwist :)
PT,
It is I who appreciate your comments
Kimo Li
LP,
Believe me I will. Between the forum, books, and the demo spreadsheet I can barely grasp all this info. but the experience has been priceless so far. :smile:
Regards,
PT
ok ok I believe you PT... lol :-)
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on September 27, 2011, 04:10:04 AM
LP,
Believe me I will. Between the forum, books, and the demo spreadsheet I can barely grasp all this info. but the experience has been priceless so far. :smile:
Regards,
PT
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 27, 2011, 03:53:45 AM
I was just being facetious to Seykid
Seriously, post an example of a 'defining pattern of randomness'. One that
can't change on the very next spin. Its easy, like stapling jello to a dartboard.
C'mon, you can do it.
Hello Kimo,
There is so much information in your book. I can see why people cannot use the global pie method, because if I did not have your program, I don't think I would have been able to understand how to track numbers.
I have a problem. Can you show me how to keep track of the sectors without using a spreadsheet program, because I cannot take the program to the casino? Don't get me wrong your program is great, but I don't want to be arrested.
Thanks,
PT
Hi Poker
A few tips,i also dont use track sheet,though im encourage to.It attract too much attention.I more or less play as if im playing blindly..a few low chips every where as i anticipate a play.When you know your numbers,and casino have a score board displaying numbers its not that hard.E.g if im playing the 4 quads,which i have by heart its easy to keep with the hot ones and let the cold ones sleep..when they wake up,they do wake up.But im talking airball here,which i much prefer to play.
Thanks.
I want to continue where we left off before the distraction:
QuoteWelcome to the concept of time and how it applies to the Global Pie.
Roulette players look at numbers as one continuous, endless string of numbers. I manipulate time by blocking them in six number increments, because sectors contain six numbers.
The key to keeping track of results is to block six spins at a time, and tracking how many times each sector has come in.
How does that translate to a strategy? I'll let you guys talk among yourselves about that.
How does one overcome the mathematical disadvantage? I let the math gurus ponder that one.
Like loungeplayer said, I don't spoon feed, I actually make you think.
Kimo Li
This particular part deals with how we perceive time: linear, cyclical, or frozen. It's about numbers being frozen in six number increments. It's studying something that is fixed in one place and extracting patterns which identify ball movement tendencies.
Think about it. I will post an example later.
Kimo Li
deep and difficult to comprehend, yet interesting
can't wait to see your coming lessons :) thanks
>This particular part deals with how we perceive time: linear, cyclical, or frozen. It's about numbers being frozen in six number increments. It's studying something that is fixed in one place and extracting patterns which identify ball movement tendencies.
Think about it. I will post an example later.
Kimo Li
yes, very interesting. intriguing.
kimo regarding 6 block concepts,simple way of play with tracking to take a pick is this ideal
Number 29 34 24 11 31 16
sector 2 5 3 1 6 4
Star 4 6 3 6 2 1
we dont have any hot sector,but repeated star,so we play all star 6 ,numbers 7,8,33,34,2,1
This is american wheel.
Here are actuals from Mr J's post in six number blocks. How many times does each section comes in within six spins?
Actuals, 8/25/10 with dealer change (00 wheel)
« on: August 26, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
32 28 02 18 00 04
01 27 01 19 13 12
23 20 27 21 09 11
13 21 09 03 09 20
20 08 21 05 27 14
12 22 23 19 14 30
01 18 23 07 11 07
26 06 10 19 27 21
21 34 27 31 07 32
00 13 00 04 23 14
27 27 12 32 31 07
02 25 17 01 28 16
26 11 05 17 25 07
09 31 03 08 17 12
03 12 18 08 27 12
13 07 11 28 24 12
15 16 23 04 08 25
16 03 14 00 36 02
26 30 05 36 05 18
10 05 19 31 32 03
15 12 34 10 12 30
19 04 04 08 33 10
07 21 18 30 33 12
20 10 00 12 16 08
18 29 24 13 29 30
21 24 24 20 31 06
08 13 09 21 07 13
03 23 05 18 32 17
11 35 25 12 32 21
17 21 23 25 00 19
18 25 36 02 25 02
14 04 29 17 11 09
26 28 31 27 16 07
10 12 17 30 27 08
00 27 17 26 08 15
14 27 31 15 21 35
13 07 31 13 15 13
13 01 10 18 14 07
09 17 09 33 36 22
27 28 30 27 29 34
33 09 36 35 01 04
04 13 01 32 12 23
14 09 10 34 19 18
19 11 29 32 05 35
23 03 33 20 07 20
27 36 18 06 02 13
26 18 34 23 24 03
00 14 11 14 10 24
03 25 19 08 11 32
34 06 14 27 19 31
03 21 26 36 31 17
24 04 18 02 27 28
19 07 23 11 13 09
34 13 33 18 05 12
21 21 08 06 18 31
22 07 00 27 01 29
30 21 19 19 10 15
00 17 04 01 15 09
33 31 10 26 32 05
09 32 07 09
Notice how many times section one has come in six number increments. Try doing that for all sections. You will notice distinct patterns.
SECTION ONE
32 28 02 18 00 04 1
01 27 01 19 13 12 0
23 20 27 21 09 11 2
13 21 09 03 09 20 2
20 08 21 05 27 14 0
12 22 23 19 14 30 1
01 18 23 07 11 07 2
26 06 10 19 27 21 1
21 34 27 31 07 32 0
00 13 00 04 23 14 0
27 27 12 32 31 07 0
02 25 17 01 28 16 2
26 11 05 17 25 07 2
09 31 03 08 17 12 1
03 12 18 08 27 12 0
13 07 11 28 24 12 3
15 16 23 04 08 25 0
16 03 14 00 36 02 0
26 30 05 36 05 18 2
10 05 19 31 32 03 0
15 12 34 10 12 30 1
19 04 04 08 33 10 0
07 21 18 30 33 12 2
20 10 00 12 16 08 0
18 29 24 13 29 30 1
21 24 24 20 31 06 0
08 13 09 21 07 13 1
03 23 05 18 32 17 0
11 35 25 12 32 21 1
17 21 23 25 00 19 0
18 25 36 02 25 02 0
14 04 29 17 11 09 2
26 28 31 27 16 07 2
10 12 17 30 27 08 1
00 27 17 26 08 15 1
14 27 31 15 21 35 0
13 07 31 13 15 13 1
13 01 10 18 14 07 0
09 17 09 33 36 22 2
27 28 30 27 29 34 2
33 09 36 35 01 04 1
04 13 01 32 12 23 0
14 09 10 34 19 18 1
19 11 29 32 05 35 1
23 03 33 20 07 20 0
27 36 18 06 02 13 0
26 18 34 23 24 03 1
00 14 11 14 10 24 1
03 25 19 08 11 32 1
34 06 14 27 19 31 0
03 21 26 36 31 17 1
24 04 18 02 27 28 2
19 07 23 11 13 09 3
34 13 33 18 05 12 0
21 21 08 06 18 31 0
22 07 00 27 01 29 1
30 21 19 19 10 15 1
00 17 04 01 15 09 1
33 31 10 26 32 05 1
09 32 07 09 3
32 28 02 18 00 04 1 0 0
01 27 01 19 13 12 0 2 3
23 20 27 21 09 11 2 1 0
13 21 09 03 09 20 2 0 2
20 08 21 05 27 14 0 1 0
12 22 23 19 14 30 1 1 0
01 18 23 07 11 07 2 0 1
26 06 10 19 27 21 1 2 0
21 34 27 31 07 32 0 1 0
00 13 00 04 23 14 0 0 1
27 27 12 32 31 07 0 3 0
02 25 17 01 28 16 2 1 1
26 11 05 17 25 07 2 1 0
09 31 03 08 17 12 1 0 0
03 12 18 08 27 12 0 3 1
13 07 11 28 24 12 3 1 2
15 16 23 04 08 25 0 1 1
16 03 14 00 36 02 0 0 0
26 30 05 36 05 18 2 0 1
10 05 19 31 32 03 0 1 1
15 12 34 10 12 30 1 3 1
19 04 04 08 33 10 0 2 0
07 21 18 30 33 12 2 1 0
20 10 00 12 16 08 0 3 0
18 29 24 13 29 30 1 2 2
21 24 24 20 31 06 0 0 2
08 13 09 21 07 13 1 1 2
03 23 05 18 32 17 0 0 1
11 35 25 12 32 21 1 2 0
17 21 23 25 00 19 0 1 0
18 25 36 02 25 02 0 2 1
14 04 29 17 11 09 2 1 0
26 28 31 27 16 07 2 1 0
10 12 17 30 27 08 1 4 0
00 27 17 26 08 15 1 2 1
14 27 31 15 21 35 0 1 1
13 07 31 13 15 13 1 0 4
13 01 10 18 14 07 0 1 2
09 17 09 33 36 22 2 0 1
27 28 30 27 29 34 2 3 0
33 09 36 35 01 04 1 0 2
04 13 01 32 12 23 0 1 2
14 09 10 34 19 18 1 1 0
19 11 29 32 05 35 1 1 0
23 03 33 20 07 20 0 0 1
27 36 18 06 02 13 0 1 2
26 18 34 23 24 03 1 0 2
00 14 11 14 10 24 1 1 1
03 25 19 08 11 32 1 1 1
34 06 14 27 19 31 0 1 0
03 21 26 36 31 17 1 0 2
24 04 18 02 27 28 2 1 1
19 07 23 11 13 09 3 0 1
34 13 33 18 05 12 0 1 1
21 21 08 06 18 31 0 1 0
22 07 00 27 01 29 1 2 1
30 21 19 19 10 15 1 1 1
00 17 04 01 15 09 1 0 2
33 31 10 26 32 05 1 1 0
09 32 07 09 3
I have done 2 more groups,section 2 and 3 respectively,we exclude zero right???
hi seykid29, I do exclude zero in the trackings.
i believe kimo exclude zeros too. (taking it as neutral)
If we can look from the Sector 3 sector charted already,we see a lot of chops within each sector..not that much consistency looking at sector alone.Or i might be looking at it in the wrong way????
seykid,
I sent you a private message and an Email. Please respond.
Thanks,
John
This is only a tracking strategy for understanding patterns.
There are several betting strategies.
The simplest to follow is bet a particular section (six numbers) in six number increments.
If you miss, do not bet the same section move to another section that is taking a run, which
brings the point of staying on a run. Once the run ends with a miss. Move on to another.
A progression is needed to recoup initial loss.
Global Pie 6 for example, is on a run. The key is to stop once you hit and wait for the next six number segment to start betting, At the end of the run, when you miss, move on to another section, wait for a two number run, like 5, then bet. Once that misses, move to 2, and so on and so
forth.
This is the most basic strategy. Advance approaches operate differently, but the principle still applies.
Kimo Li
Six Number Segments Global Pies
01 02 03 04 05 06 1 2 3 4 5 6
02 28 02 18 00 04 1 0 0 3 0 1
01 27 01 19 13 12 0 2 3 0 0 1
23 20 27 21 09 11 2 1 0 1 1 1
13 21 09 03 09 20 2 0 2 0 1 1
20 08 21 05 27 14 0 2 0 1 2 1
12 22 23 19 14 30 1 1 0 2 1 1
01 18 23 07 11 07 3 0 1 1 0 1
26 06 10 19 27 21 1 2 0 0 0 3
21 34 27 31 07 32 1 1 0 0 2 2
00 13 00 04 23 14 0 0 1 3 0 0
27 27 12 32 31 07 1 3 0 0 1 1
02 25 17 01 28 16 1 1 1 2 1 0
26 11 05 17 25 07 3 1 0 0 2 0
09 31 03 08 17 12 1 2 1 0 1 1
03 12 18 08 27 12 0 4 1 0 0 1
13 07 11 28 24 12 3 1 2 0 0 0
15 16 23 04 08 25 0 2 1 3 0 0
16 03 14 00 36 02 0 0 2 3 0 0
26 30 05 36 05 18 2 0 1 0 2 1
10 05 19 31 32 03 0 1 1 0 2 2
15 12 34 10 12 30 1 3 1 0 1 0
19 04 04 08 33 10 0 2 0 2 0 2
07 21 18 30 33 12 2 1 0 0 0 3
20 10 00 12 16 08 0 3 0 1 1 0
18 29 24 13 29 30 1 2 2 0 0 1
21 24 24 20 31 06 0 0 2 0 1 3
08 13 09 21 07 13 2 1 2 0 0 1
03 23 05 18 32 17 0 0 1 1 3 1
11 35 25 12 32 21 1 2 0 1 1 1
17 21 23 25 00 19 0 1 0 1 1 2
18 25 36 02 25 02 0 2 1 2 0 1
14 04 29 17 11 09 2 1 0 2 1 0
26 28 31 27 16 07 3 1 0 1 0 1
10 12 17 30 27 08 1 4 0 0 1 0
00 27 17 26 08 15 1 2 1 0 1 0
14 27 31 15 21 35 0 1 1 2 0 2
13 07 31 13 15 13 1 0 4 0 0 1
13 01 10 18 14 07 1 1 2 1 0 1
09 17 09 33 36 22 2 0 1 0 2 1
27 28 30 27 29 34 2 3 0 0 1 0
33 09 36 35 01 04 1 0 2 2 0 1
04 13 01 32 12 23 0 1 2 2 1 0
14 09 10 34 19 18 1 1 0 1 1 2
19 11 29 32 05 35 1 1 0 1 2 1
23 03 33 20 07 20 1 0 1 1 2 1
27 36 18 06 02 13 0 1 2 1 0 2
26 18 34 23 24 03 1 0 2 1 1 1
00 14 11 14 10 24 1 1 1 2 0 0
03 25 19 08 11 32 1 2 1 0 1 1
34 06 14 27 19 31 0 1 0 1 1 3
03 21 26 36 31 17 1 0 2 0 1 2
24 04 18 02 27 28 1 1 1 2 0 1
19 07 23 11 13 09 3 0 1 1 0 1
34 13 33 18 05 12 0 1 1 0 2 2
21 21 08 06 18 31 0 1 0 0 0 5
22 07 00 27 01 29 1 2 1 0 1 0
30 21 19 19 10 15 1 1 1 0 0 3
00 17 04 01 15 09 1 0 2 1 1 0
33 31 10 26 32 05 1 1 0 0 2 2
"A progression is needed to recoup initial loss."
Kimo if the method wins more than loses then why progression is needed? if it fails second time, now
u gonna lose 108 units instead of 72?
Hi Iggiv,
I did not state the "method wins more than loses". My first sentence says
QuoteThis is only a tracking strategy for understanding patterns.
I also said,
QuoteThis is the most basic strategy. Advance approaches operate differently, but the principle still applies.
The point in this lesson is to learn how patterns generate using six bet increments as a fixed point in time.
This strategy can win, only if you have a large bankroll with an aggressive progression. The advance approach allows the player to make strategic bets without having to worry about major draw downs.
Kimo Li
thanx!
Here is something I posted recently at Steve's other forum. It was in response to the Red and Black betting. It shows how patterns develop and how to take advantage of "skip and run" patterns.
"...bet black when running black, bet red when running red."
The chart shows four types of betting progressions.
F Flat Bet
2 1 2 4 8
3 1 3 9 27
4 1 4 16 68
B F B 2 B 3 B 4
17 B
16 R L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
31 B L 1 -1 L 2 -2 L 3 -3 L 4 -4
31 B W 1 1 W 4 4 W 9 9 W 16 16
32 R L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
13 B L 1 -1 L 2 -2 L 3 -3 L 4 -4
12 R W 1 1 W 4 4 W 9 9 W 16 16
21 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
23 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
16 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
14 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
05 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
23 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
23 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
27 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
11 B L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
19 R L 1 -1 L 2 -2 L 3 -3 L 4 -4
32 R W 1 1 W 4 4 W 9 9 W 16 16
36 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
19 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
27 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
34 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
30 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
26 B L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
31 B W 1 1 W 2 2 W 3 3 W 4 4
13 B W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
27 R L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
03 R W 1 1 W 2 2 W 3 3 W 4 4
20 B L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
35 B W 1 1 W 2 2 W 3 3 W 4 4
36 R L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1 L 1 -1
32 R W 1 1 W 2 2 W 3 3 W 4 4
23 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
21 R W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1 W 1 1
PROFIT 13 23 39 61
...I would use this strategy only if I see red and black taking a run. In sample above, it was ideal.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on October 01, 2011, 11:40:24 AM
The point in this lesson is to learn how patterns generate using six bet increments as a fixed point in time.
This strategy can win, only if you have a large bankroll with an aggressive progression. The advance approach allows the player to make strategic bets without having to worry about major draw downs.
Kimo Li
Correct!. Add up WINKEL'S WIN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT (topic in rouletteforum.cc) money managment to it and there is no way it can be a losser.
Hi! Here is little tracking system. But it lead know where, or maybe it does. Kimo knows!! :)
Timo
It took me a few days, but I memorized the wheel. I don't need a peice of paper anymore.
Thanks for your help,
PT
@ Iggiv, you are welcome
@ P,T get some sleep, I'm glad to hear you don't need to bring paper to the casino.
@ Timo, say nice things to cheese
@ Carpanta, so true, make a lot of money
@ Seykid, nice job tracking
@ loungeplayer, definitely deep and difficult to understand
Sorry if I missed anyone
Kimo Li
hi Carpanta, this part is interesting... i just read Winkel's post. It's a Fibonacci progression.
i wonder if it is a nine-number bet selection, what kind of Fibonacci alike can be applied to it's progression?
hmm.. anyone? :)
Quote from: Carpanta on October 01, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
Correct!. Add up WINKEL'S WIN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT (topic in rouletteforum.cc) money managment to it and there is no way it can be a losser.
Quote from: loungeplayer on October 01, 2011, 10:23:49 PM
hi Carpanta, this part is interesting... I just read Winkel's post. It's a Fibonacci progression.
I wonder if it is a nine-number bet selection, what kind of Fibonacci alike can be applied to it's progression?
hmm.. anyone? :)
1111/2222/3333/5555/8888/...so on...extended fibo
thanks for the sharing balint
Quote from: balint on October 01, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
1111/2222/3333/5555/8888/...so on...extended fibo
Loungeplayer, Winkel's money managment would be 111,222,333,555,888... fibonacci for a 9 numbers event.
OR,
11111111, 22222222, 33333333, ....... fibonacci for a 4 numbers event.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Quote from: Carpanta on October 02, 2011, 06:20:53 AM
Loungeplayer, Winkel's money managment would be 111,222,333,555,888... fibonacci for a 9 numbers event.
OR,
11111111, 22222222, 33333333, ....... fibonacci for a 4 numbers event.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Yes Carlos very true , i was wrong..... :yes:
And for 12 numbers is 11,22,33,55,88,13,13...........
For Ec s 1,2,3,5,8,13.............for 6 numbers 11111/22222/33333/55555/88888....
of course can start from 0,10 c (online).
Quote from: balint on October 02, 2011, 12:13:40 PM
Yes Carlos very true , I was wrong..... :yes:
And for 12 numbers is 11,22,33,55,88,13,13...........
For Ec s 1,2,3,5,8,13.............for 6 numbers 11111/22222/33333/55555/88888....
of course can start from 0,10 c (online).
:thumbsup: Good proposal. Smartly played, 1000 chips bankroll would do more than enough.
I know one thing, the gathering of moderators, top members, preserverant members can only mean one thing, it was "due." Most of which that has been posted since my last lesson has been off topic. It appears it's difficult to post relevant ideas without having to be interrupted. I guess that's the nature of this forum.
Moderators, what would be the ideal solution? Now, I'm doing it; I'm off topic.
Meanwhile, staying on topic. Recognizing patterns and categorizing them in a manner that makes sense only to me has been my MO.
So when I speak about ball movement patterns in my own language, people get upset. "When in Rome, do what the Romans do". There's nothing wrong with speaking a different language. It's usually the interpretation that stirs up the pot.
So, that's what I want to share. Roulette ball movement on my next post.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Carpanta on October 02, 2011, 06:20:53 AM
Loungeplayer, Winkel's money managment would be 111,222,333,555,888... fibonacci for a 9 numbers event.
OR,
11111111, 22222222, 33333333, ....... fibonacci for a 4 numbers event.
Cheers,
Carlos.
If we tracking a 9 numbers event,do we play it in block of 6 maybe,when a win wait for next block,.continueing with Fibonacci progression.Or we play the 9 numbers trending with fibonacci nonstop till we reach our target or run out of Bankroll????
Seykid.
I apologize to Kimo for my share in the off-topic comments.
Cheers,
Carlos.
There must be a boycott, not enough drama, or the subject matter is boring. Hmmmm?
Kimo,i read this thread 6 times a day..nothing..maybe we all waiting for you to add.Because since your last post.We all understand what you were trying to say,we now need the lesson to continue.Cheers
Seykid.
Quote from: Kimo Li on October 04, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
There must be a boycott, not enough drama, or the subject matter is boring. Hmmmm?
Yes, maybe people are waiting for you to continue, or maybe people are stuck or studying that which you have already assigned them?
Bombus i think its more of a matter waiting for lesson.I think he should post something everyday 8)
Definetely not boring, please continue lessons Kimo.. :)
Timo
we are keen to learn from you, Sir Kimo Li :-)
the students are seated. :thumbsup:
+1
How is any of all these threads explaining how to increase accuracy of predictions...
Its a ball and a wheel....Statistics has nothing to do with it....PHYSICS maybe???
Watching 24 spins as Kimo says you can determine averages of parameters:
Rotor speed
Ball rotations and speed of rotations
Dominant dropzone(diamond)
Possible patterns(if betting before ball release)
Ball release point(if betting after ball release)
Flat betting with 10 numbers archs(sectors) you need 3 out of 10 hits in average for min.profit
Sounds more realistic doesn't it???
Now if we use statistics and divide the wheel in 6 sections and hoping for hot zones......not gonna happen...
Statistics only win if the wheel is biased....
Lets say that there are 6 big pockets on the wheel instead of 37(european)....
How can you be sure that in certain number of spins the ball will land in the targeted sector???
A sector can sleep for very long time,although rare,but it will happen and then what??Bankroll wiped out(progression)
Just my point of view...
Not to ofend anyone...
Regards,
Macedonian
Hi Macedonian, welcome to the thread and discuss.
:-)
I can see that you are actually studying visual ballistics? Kimo's approach to this game, well..I wouldn't call it VB.. his Matrix invention (arrangement of numbers in Pies and Stars) are really innovative and acts as a compass as to how the wheel is doing...
Patterns Observation
have fun studying... this is cool stuff but deep..
Roulette ball movement, how does one track something like that? Well if you have been following, you probably have memorized the wheel by now using the six Global Pies. If not, this will not make any sense to you.
The American wheel is divided as 1,5,3 and 2, 6, 4.
The halves are divided by the single zero and the double zero.
So, the most basic movement to notice is which half of the wheel the ball is favoring, using the skip and run tracking.
1 represents 1,5,3
2 represents 2,6,4
1 2
32 1 0
28 1 0
02 0 1
18 0 1
00 0 0
04 0 1
01 1 0
27 0 1
01 1 0
19 0 1
13 1 0
12 0 1
23 0 1
20 1 0
27 0 1
21 0 1
09 1 0
11 1 0
13 1 0
21 0 1
09 1 0
03 1 0
09 1 0
20 1 0
20 1 0
08 0 1
21 0 1
05 1 0
27 0 1
14 0 1
12 0 1
22 1 0
23 0 1
19 0 1
14 0 1
30 1 0
01 1 0
18 0 1
23 0 1
07 1 0
11 1 0
07 1 0
26 1 0
06 0 1
10 0 1
19 0 1
27 0 1
21 0 1
21 0 1
34 1 0
27 0 1
31 0 1
07 1 0
32 1 0
00 0 0
13 1 0
00 0 0
04 0 1
23 0 1
14 0 1
27 0 1
27 0 1
12 0 1
32 1 0
31 0 1
07 1 0
02 0 1
25 0 1
17 1 0
01 1 0
28 1 0
16 0 1
26 1 0
11 1 0
05 1 0
17 1 0
25 0 1
07 1 0
09 1 0
31 0 1
03 1 0
08 0 1
17 1 0
12 0 1
03 1 0
12 0 1
18 0 1
08 0 1
27 0 1
12 0 1
13 1 0
07 1 0
11 1 0
28 1 0
24 1 0
12 0 1
15 1 0
16 0 1
23 0 1
04 0 1
08 0 1
25 0 1
16 0 1
03 1 0
14 0 1
00 0 0
36 1 0
02 0 1
26 1 0
30 1 0
05 1 0
36 1 0
05 1 0
18 0 1
10 0 1
05 1 0
19 0 1
31 0 1
32 1 0
03 1 0
15 1 0
12 0 1
34 1 0
10 0 1
12 0 1
30 1 0
19 0 1
04 0 1
04 0 1
08 0 1
33 0 1
10 0 1
07 1 0
21 0 1
18 0 1
30 1 0
33 0 1
12 0 1
20 1 0
10 0 1
00 0 0
12 0 1
16 0 1
08 0 1
18 0 1
29 0 1
24 1 0
13 1 0
29 0 1
30 1 0
21 0 1
24 1 0
24 1 0
20 1 0
31 0 1
06 0 1
08 0 1
13 1 0
09 1 0
21 0 1
07 1 0
13 1 0
03 1 0
23 0 1
05 1 0
18 0 1
32 1 0
17 1 0
11 1 0
35 0 1
25 0 1
12 0 1
32 1 0
21 0 1
17 1 0
21 0 1
23 0 1
25 0 1
00 0 0
19 0 1
18 0 1
25 0 1
36 1 0
02 0 1
25 0 1
02 0 1
14 0 1
04 0 1
29 0 1
17 1 0
11 1 0
09 1 0
26 1 0
28 1 0
31 0 1
27 0 1
16 0 1
07 1 0
10 0 1
12 0 1
17 1 0
30 1 0
27 0 1
08 0 1
00 0 0
27 0 1
17 1 0
26 1 0
08 0 1
15 1 0
14 0 1
27 0 1
31 0 1
15 1 0
21 0 1
35 0 1
13 1 0
07 1 0
31 0 1
13 1 0
15 1 0
13 1 0
13 1 0
01 1 0
10 0 1
18 0 1
14 0 1
07 1 0
09 1 0
17 1 0
09 1 0
33 0 1
36 1 0
22 1 0
27 0 1
28 1 0
30 1 0
27 0 1
29 0 1
34 1 0
33 0 1
09 1 0
36 1 0
35 0 1
01 1 0
04 0 1
04 0 1
13 1 0
01 1 0
32 1 0
12 0 1
23 0 1
14 0 1
09 1 0
10 0 1
34 1 0
19 0 1
18 0 1
19 0 1
11 1 0
29 0 1
32 1 0
05 1 0
35 0 1
23 0 1
03 1 0
33 0 1
20 1 0
07 1 0
20 1 0
27 0 1
36 1 0
18 0 1
06 0 1
02 0 1
13 1 0
26 1 0
18 0 1
34 1 0
23 0 1
24 1 0
03 1 0
00 0 0
14 0 1
11 1 0
14 0 1
10 0 1
24 1 0
03 1 0
25 0 1
19 0 1
08 0 1
11 1 0
32 1 0
34 1 0
06 0 1
14 0 1
27 0 1
19 0 1
31 0 1
03 1 0
21 0 1
26 1 0
36 1 0
31 0 1
17 1 0
24 1 0
04 0 1
18 0 1
02 0 1
27 0 1
28 1 0
19 0 1
07 1 0
23 0 1
11 1 0
13 1 0
09 1 0
34 1 0
13 1 0
33 0 1
18 0 1
05 1 0
12 0 1
21 0 1
21 0 1
08 0 1
06 0 1
18 0 1
31 0 1
22 1 0
07 1 0
00 0 0
27 0 1
01 1 0
29 0 1
30 1 0
21 0 1
19 0 1
19 0 1
10 0 1
15 1 0
00 0 0
17 1 0
04 0 1
01 1 0
15 1 0
09 1 0
33 0 1
31 0 1
10 0 1
26 1 0
32 1 0
05 1 0
09 1 0
32 1 0
07 1 0
09 1 0
With those spins the ball is moving from here to here..most common win in a row is 5.I get with this pattern,a martingale will see you through.
Quote from: macedonianroulette1 on October 06, 2011, 10:39:58 PM
How can you be sure that in certain number of spins the ball will land in the targeted sector???
A sector can sleep for very long time,although rare,but it will happen and then what??Bankroll wiped out(progression)
Just my point of view...
While gambling words like
sure, due should be wiped off from a gambler's vocabulary.
Nothing is either granted or due to happen.
In the best situation most you can do is trying to time the outcome of events.
That's what Kimo Li's strategies do based on his GPM.
That way you observe what is not showing (cold events) while you see what and how hot events are performing in your tracking tool (matrix).
When something hot goes cold it is part of the timing to detect.
Then you'll just spend the least posible amount of chips to prove your actual bet selection is wrong.
Cheers,
Carlos.
The focus is on ball movement not how to bet, that comes later. First understand ball movement.
Look at the roulette wheel in a linear fashion using the six sections of the Global Pie, beginning with section 1.
1 5 3 2 6 4 1 5 3 2 6 4 . . .
For you European Global Pie players the sequence looks like this:
4 6 8 5 9 7 4 6 8 5 9 7 . . .
From the last spin number, if the ball moves from the left or right of the section, this ball movement is called a "Hemi" because the ball is staying within the bottom half of the wheel.
For example, using section 1, section 4 is left and section 5 is right.
How powerful is this information?
If you detect a dealer consistently having this Hemi pattern movement, you will have 12 numbers to choose from, just a thought. Let's stick to movement for now.
So in order to see this particular movement, you would have to have memorized the GPM sectors.
GPM is a map. A map is designed to give you direction. Without direction, you may get lost. Sometimes you may get lucky and arrive at your destination. In other words, you may hit that "random" number; who wants to do that?
Another thing to notice if the ball moves in a clockwise position, hemi left; or a counter clockwise motion, hemi right.
Here's a situation that happen at Circus Circus casino in Las Vegas a few years ago when I was demonstrating to someone hemi movements. The dealer definitely had a hemi tendency and there was a red number run. I played in section one (28, 9 26, 30, 11, 7), the red numbers (9, 30, 7) and in section three (15, 3, 24, 36, 13, 1), red numbers (3, 36, 1), as the previous number was red 5.
I hit number 36. So I decided to play reds numbers in section two (27, 10, 25, 29, 12,8) red numbers (27, 25, 12), because the ball was move hemi left in a clockwise direction. I hit number 25.
The next bet was in section six (19, 31, 18, 6, 21, 33) red numbers (19,18, 21). I missed because it came in 6 black, right sections, wrong color. So I stayed true to the ball movement and bet black numbers in the next section hemi left movement black numbers (4, 35, 2). I placed extra bets (60 dollars) from the profits I made from previous hits on number 35
I hit.
Meanwhile, here is what is going on in my head. The ball is moving in a hemi left direction; it's running red; then it switches to black, same pattern. But now I notice it has been hitting the middle color number within each section. Previous number 5, next 36, then 25, the 6 black, (middle number, wrong color), adjustment made to black. Bet heavy on middle number black on the hemi number on the next section, number 35. Why? Because most the previous numbers (5, 36, 25, 6) were from the Global Star number four group (5, 6, 29, 30, 35, 36) the only black star number in Global star 4 that is in section four is 35.
All this happen because I noticed the hemi ball movement moving in a left direction, among others things going on in my head.
First of all I AM A SUCCESSFULL VB WINNING PLAYER....
So you say that something is DUE to happen.....Bad aproach to roulette...
You can divide the wheel into pies or whatever but you make a catastrophic mistake.....
First of all you depend on statistics that has nothing to do with roulette why don't you understand....
If we were to wait then bet.....We'll wait for 30 reds in a row and bet black with progression....
That is a holy grail yes???
PHYSICS mate,only physics can give you advantage...
All of this reminds me of the raindrop system developed years ago.....
NO OUTCOME IS DUE!!!!!!!!!!!
So we got 24 spins and a sector is hot...
Then a new dealer comes in and that sector is no longer hot....
ONLY PHYSICS!!!!
You have a small ball that spins and fall onto a wheel platform....
Statistics????NO
Statistics only can show you a biased wheel.....
Example:
Dominant drop zone is the diamond at 9 o clock
Ball revolutions average is 15 revolutions
The rotor speed is 4 secs...Average Rotor revolutions 5 then the ball drops
Dealer starts spin..
He spins the ball above number zero...
So now we have 15 ball revolutions and 5 wheel revolutions in average
In every ball revolution we have 3 pockets distance...
15x3 = 45 pockets that is zero and 8 pockets clockwise or counterclockwise(depends on dealer)
9 o clock dominant drop zone
Prediction is number 29.....
Covering neighbours surely will make 3 hits out of 10 spins....
Your pies and stars don't cover sectors and don't rely on physics....
So your system is same as waiting for 30 reds then bet on black with progression.....
Quote from: Kimo Li on October 07, 2011, 10:39:03 AM
The focus is on ball movement not how to bet, that comes later. First understand ball movement.
Look at the roulette wheel in a linear fashion using the six sections of the Global Pie, beginning with section 1.
1 5 3 2 6 4 1 5 3 2 6 4 . . .
For you European Global Pie players the sequence looks like this:
4 6 8 5 9 7 4 6 8 5 9 7 . . .
From the last spin number, if the ball moves from the left or right of the section, this ball movement is called a "Hemi" because the ball is staying within the bottom half of the wheel.
For example, using section 1, section 4 is left and section 5 is right.
How powerful is this information?
If you detect a dealer consistently having this Hemi pattern movement, you will have 12 numbers to choose from, just a thought. Let's stick to movement for now.
So in order to see this particular movement, you would have to have memorized the GPM sectors.
GPM is a map. A map is designed to give you direction. Without direction, you may get lost. Sometimes you may get lucky and arrive at your destination. In other words, you may hit that "random" number; who wants to do that?
Another thing to notice if the ball moves in a clockwise position, hemi left; or a counter clockwise motion, hemi right.
Here's a situation that happen at Circus Circus casino in Las Vegas a few years ago when I was demonstrating to someone hemi movements. The dealer definitely had a hemi tendency and there was a red number run. I played in section one (28, 9 26, 30, 11, 7), the red numbers (9, 30, 7) and in section three (15, 3, 24, 36, 13, 1), red numbers (3, 36, 1), as the previous number was red 5.
I hit number 36. So I decided to play reds numbers in section two (27, 10, 25, 29, 12,8) red numbers (27, 25, 12), because the ball was move hemi left in a clockwise direction. I hit number 25.
The next bet was in section six (19, 31, 18, 6, 21, 33) red numbers (19,18, 21). I missed because it came in 6 black, right sections, wrong color. So I stayed true to the ball movement and bet black numbers in the next section hemi left movement black numbers (4, 35, 2). I placed extra bets (60 dollars) from the profits I made from previous hits on number 35
I hit.
Meanwhile, here is what is going on in my head. The ball is moving in a hemi left direction; it's running red; then it switches to black, same pattern. But now I notice it has been hitting the middle color number within each section. Previous number 5, next 36, then 25, the 6 black, (middle number, wrong color), adjustment made to black. Bet heavy on middle number black on the hemi number on the next section, number 35. Why? Because most the previous numbers (5, 36, 25, 6) were from the Global Star number four group (5, 6, 29, 30, 35, 36) the only black star number in Global star 4 that is in section four is 35.
All this happen because I noticed the hemi ball movement moving in a left direction, among others things going on in my head.
Funny you should mention that.I had a similar thing when black was trending nuke.The guys were just saying 'Man i cant believe it black again,not knowing really which black to take advantage of.I was playing 9 blacks,but more bet on 6 others.As also it was repeating same bowtie black.So 3 was just assurance bet.6 others were the real deal.
Seykid.
macedonianroulette1
Frankly, I do not care. What you do is your business.
I do what works for me and really that's all that matters in the larger scheme. For those who want to learn VB, I say more power to them. For those who want to learn other methods, I say fine to that. That is the beauty of choice.
So if you decide to learn about GPM, great. If not, that's great too. In any case, thanks for your opinion.
Kimo Li
dear Kimo, thanks for the latest ball movement lesson.
Please continue to share with us. Eager students awaiting the teacher.
Thanks Kimo.
Hi! Thank you Kimo about your lessons, hope you continue that! :)
Hmm, Matrix I dont get it..Numbers switch places, stars hmm... :girl_wacko:
Timo
I follow but no Matrix, no idea how you use that... :o But keep coming lessons, please :clapping:
Timo
The next ball movement is called the Bowtie.
If the ball repeats the same section or lands on the opposite section, the movement is called the Bowtie.
The American wheel bowties are sections one and two, three and four, five and six.
The next ball movement is called the Nuke. The nuke ball movement occurs when the ball falls two sections either left or right of the last section. The nuke sections on the American wheel are 136 and 245.
So if the last number was in section 6, a nuke movement would happen if the ball falls in either section 1 or 3.
To recap, we have the hemi, bowtie, and nuke ball movements. The only way you can identify these movements is if you learn the Global Pie sections. If you haven't realized by now that the Global Pie is a map, perhaps you may want to play outside bets only.
Kimo Li
Thank you for all your posts Kimo Li, much to learn and talk about.
Ken
Hi Kimo, thanks for the current lesson on BowTie.
I have added additional columns in my tracking to track ball movements... :)
not sure how to use it yet though.. but i believe it is useful definitely in future.
by the way Teacher Kimo, when tracking Bow-Ties... if I track it in two columns (i.e. Bow-Ties Same and Bow-Ties Opposite), would it help?
for example for European Wheel,
36, 8, 3, (I track it as Bow-Tie (Same) and then Bow-Tie (Opposite)
just a thought and observation. want to hear your advice :)
Thanks
Quote from: loungeplayer on October 13, 2011, 04:36:19 AM
by the way Teacher Kimo, when tracking Bow-Ties... if I track it in two columns (I.e. Bow-Ties Same and Bow-Ties Opposite), would it help?
for example for European Wheel,
36, 8, 3, (I track it as Bow-Tie (Same) and then Bow-Tie (Opposite)
just a thought and observation. want to hear your advice :)
Thanks
Lounge player dont you think with a simple - or + is simple enough.so we can tell in the ball is bowtie in same or differ
if bowtie we have
19
30 +
21 +
then we will attempt another plus movement same colour if trending,3 numbers,if not then just the six numbers.
Just a thought.
hi Seykid, i don't really get what you mean. can you provide an example please?
thanks
Your dealer spins
19
then 30 so from 19 to 30 its a plus bowtie
then 21 from 30 to 21 a plus bowtie,so we play that next spin will be a plus bowtie.As red is trending we play
36 11 30 8 23 10,place 1 unit on 11,8,10, 5 units on 36 30 23 Total Bet=18 units
Next number 30 repeat,a plus bowtie,WIN Profit=168 units
Hi Seykid, your example below:
from 19 to 30, it's actually a Nuke...
from 30 to 21, it's another Nuke....
I am abit losing you.... sorry.. you are talking about European Wheel right?
Quote from: seykid29 on October 14, 2011, 02:04:59 AM
Your dealer spins
19
then 30 so from 19 to 30 its a plus bowtie
then 21 from 30 to 21 a plus bowtie,so we play that next spin will be a plus bowtie.As red is trending we play
36 11 30 8 23 10,place 1 unit on 11,8,10, 5 units on 36 30 23 Total Bet=18 units
Next number 30 repeat,a plus bowtie,WIN Profit=168 units
Hi SK,
I see what you mean by bowtie. I read it on page 81 on Kimo's book. LP is right. Those are not the bowtie moves because when I put 19 then 30 on the spreadsheet I got from Kimo on FB, the bowtie column is not highlighted. I think you are talking about the nuke because the nuke 489 column is highlighted, much more advance than what I have learned so far. The plus bowtie suggest there is a minus bowtie. Is that possible?
Regards,
PT
Quote36, 8, 3, (I track it as Bow-Tie (Same) and then Bow-Tie (Opposite)
just a thought and observation. want to hear your advi
LP, That's a great idea. I do make that distinction. I also, like seykid observed, keep track of many other factors, like color.
Quotethank you for all your posts Kimo Li, much to learn and talk about.
Mr. J, No, thank you for your support.
QuoteI see what you mean by bowtie.
PT, you learn quickly.
seykid, I know you meant NUKE because you are advanced in your studies.
QuoteHi! Thank you Kimo about your lessons, hope you continue that!
Timo, hope you learn more. However, I believe I saw your download of the roulette wheel somewhere else, months ago. I remember telling you, or someone else that the X and the Y were not in the right sectors. Timo if you are the same person that created the wheel, I believe you posted under a different name. Just a thought. The map of the wheel can be seen on page 33, in my book. As you will see, X and Y have three numbers each.
Kimo Li
Quote from: loungeplayer on October 14, 2011, 03:26:01 AM
Hi Seykid, your example below:
from 19 to 30, it's actually a Nuke...
from 30 to 21, it's another Nuke....
I am abit losing you.... sorry.. you are talking about European Wheel right?
hahahaha..yes sorry mate :whistle:,it is Nuke.But you do get the idea im talking about.For bowtie same principle.Sorry again.But that it shows you do know your pies well ;D
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on October 14, 2011, 03:55:30 AM
Hi SK,
I see what you mean by bowtie. I read it on page 81 on Kimo's book. LP is right. Those are not the bowtie moves because when I put 19 then 30 on the spreadsheet I got from Kimo on FB, the bowtie column is not highlighted. I think you are talking about the nuke because the nuke 489 column is highlighted, much more advance than what I have learned so far. The plus bowtie suggest there is a minus bowtie. Is that possible?
Regards,
PT
CORRECTION FOR BOWTIE EXAMPLE-European wheel.
Your dealer spins
12
then 30 so from 12 to 30 its a plus bowtie
then 7 from 30 to 7 a plus bowtie,so we play that next spin will be a plus bowtie.As red is trending we play
36 11 30 8 23 10,place 1 unit on 11,8,10, 5 units on 36 30 23 Total Bet=18 units
Next number 30 repeat,a plus bowtie,WIN Profit=168 units
Hello! Kimo, yes I learn little steps :) I dont remember who created the wheel, I just modified it little. Jep, I can see those wheels are not identical as you said.. But now waiting your next lesson :ok:
Timo
thanks Seykid, i get what you mean now.
Quote from: seykid29 on October 14, 2011, 06:30:38 AM
CORRECTION FOR BOWTIE EXAMPLE-European wheel.
Your dealer spins
12
then 30 so from 12 to 30 its a plus bowtie
then 7 from 30 to 7 a plus bowtie,so we play that next spin will be a plus bowtie.As red is trending we play
36 11 30 8 23 10,place 1 unit on 11,8,10, 5 units on 36 30 23 Total Bet=18 units
Next number 30 repeat,a plus bowtie,WIN Profit=168 units
American wheel
Ball spins 22,12,11 i play 11,22,13,12,21,14,
next 3 spins were 14,11,22 fourth spin 2 a loss.
3 lucky hits.Maybe :haha:
Thanks Kimo finding new insights to the game every day :yahoo:
Not bad at all! ;)
Timo
Quote from: Timo on October 17, 2011, 05:17:09 AM
Not bad at all! ;)
Timo
Timo i bet you know why i played those numbers??
:)
Seykid
5 Stars to your post
Jep Seykid I know why you bet those numbers :thumbsup: ( assuming that you play american wheel )
Timo
Huhuu, where has Kimo gone?
Idk, but I hope we didn't scare him away.. : (
I am quite sure he's just real busy, because offline and online, he's imparting his knowledge and coaching people he carefully selected. :)
eager to see his coming lessons
Thanks Kimo
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 24, 2011, 11:18:25 PM
Hello PT,
Lets' get you started. I am going to show you how important it is to know where the numbers lay on the roulette wheel, and how it correlates with the table layout.
The American roulette wheel has 38 numbers. For the moment, ignore the zeros. Divide the wheel into six sectors, beginning with the number 28.
Section one: 28, 9, 26, 30, 11, and 7
Section five: 20, 32, 17, 5, 22, and 34
Section three: 15, 3, 24, 36, 13, and 1
Things to note so far:
Section one is called section one because it is next to the single (1) zero
Section five is called section five because it is in the section
Section three is called section three because it is in the section
Sections 1, 5, and 3 are called the ODD half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are odd numbers:
The other half of the wheel:
Section two: 27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 8
Section six: 19, 31, 18, 6, 21, and 33
Section four: 16, 4, 23, 35, 14, and 2
Things to note this time:
Section two is called section two because it is next to the double (2) zero
Section six is called section six because section six is in the section
Section four is called section four because section four is in the section
Sections 2, 6, and 4 are called the EVEN half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are even numbers.
You will see this in my book.
What am I suppose to do with this information?
Every time a number comes up, you will be able to keep track on what side of the wheel the ball is favoring, the odd half or the even half. This is basic visual tracking.
I noticed your post name is PokerTwist. Like a "poker tell", I shall equate knowing which half of the wheel the ball is landing as "a roulette tell".
End of lesson one.
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo Li,
Would you be kind to layout the European roulette wheel, Single 0, and how it correlates with the table layout.
Thanks,
John
Here you go jrhelp007,
The European roulette wheel has 37 numbers. For the moment, ignore the zero. Divide the wheel into six sectors, beginning with the number 32.
Section four: 32, 15, 21, 4, 19, and 2
Section six: 25, 17, 34, 6, 27 and 13
Section eight: 36, 11, 30, 8, 23, and 10
Things to note so far:
Section four is called section four because it is in the section
Section six is called section six because it is in the section
Section eight is called section eight because it is in the section
Sections 4, 6, 8 are called the EVEN half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are even numbers:
The other half of the wheel:
Section five: 5, 24, 16, 33, 1, and 20
Section nine: 14, 31, 9, 22, 18, and 29
Section seven: 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, and 26
Things to note this time:
Section five is called section five because it is in the section
Section nine is called section nine because it is in the section
Section seven is called section seven because it is in the section
Sections 5, 9, 7 are called the ODD half of the roulette wheel because the sector labels are odd numbers.
You will see this in my book.
What am I suppose to do with this information?
Every time a number comes up, you will be able to keep track on what side of the wheel the ball is favoring, the odd half or the even half. This is basic visual tracking.
Kimo Li
The teacher is back! :biggrin: :pleasantry:
Quote from: loungeplayer on October 26, 2011, 06:14:43 AM
The teacher is back! :biggrin: :pleasantry:
Very nice! :thumbsup:
:clapping:
Here's something I just posted on Steve's other forum.
Imagine these 36 numbers were in a circle. Now count the spaces between the numbers as it relates in a circle of continuous spaces based on 6 number increments.
1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
One space relationship: 12, 23, 34, 45, 56, 61, 12, 23, etc.
Two space: 13, 24, 35, 46, 51, 62, 13, 24 etc.
Three space: 14, 25, 36, 41, 52, 63, 14, 25 etc.
Four space: 15, 26, 31, 42, 53, 64, 15, 26, etc.
Five space: 16, 21, 32, 43, 54, 65, 16, 21, etc.
Six space: 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66
Now try it ACW:
One space relationship: 16, 65, 54, 43, 32, 21, 16 etc.
Two space: etc. 15, 64, 53, 42, 31, 15 etc.
Three space: 14, 63, 52, 41, 36, 25, 14, etc
Four space: 13, 62, 51, 46, 35, 24, 13, etc.
Five space: 12, 61, 56, 45, 34, 23, 12, etc.
Six space: 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66
The spaces between numbers in a cyclical table base have different meanings from a traditional numerical point of view. For example, space 53 CW has a four space difference, while 53 ACW has a two space difference.
And yes, you can track this "stuff".
Welcome to the Global Star System.
Kimo Li
Class resumed! :pleasantry:
Timo how are you dong with your studies.Lately im falling for stars strategy rather than pies(sector) not that master yet but still experimenting with playing 6 stars or even dominat 3 from 6.Funny at times,maybe luck when playing 3 stars and getting hitting,you get question like how did you know..well,answer is wild guess ;)
Quote from: seykid29 on November 30, 2011, 03:23:02 AM
Timo how are you dong with your studies.Lately im falling for stars strategy rather than pies(sector) not that master yet but still experimenting with playing 6 stars or even dominat 3 from 6.Funny at times,maybe luck when playing 3 stars and getting hitting,you get question like how did you know..well,answer is wild guess ;)
Hi! I am not that far yet like you are but happy you are doing well with stars! :thumbsup: Seems that Kimo is very busy or something :scratch_ones_head:
Timo
Quote from: Timo on November 30, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
Hi! I am not that far yet like you are but happy you are doing well with stars! :thumbsup: Seems that Kimo is very busy or something :scratch_ones_head:
Timo
Busy with the spreadsheets it seems.Can check on site there are more available..well dont know when you last check his site.
Quote from: seykid29 on December 02, 2011, 02:12:53 AM
Busy with the spreadsheets it seems.Can check on site there are more available..well dont know when you last check his site.
Yes I suppose so too. I have them all what now are available :)
Timo
That is a lot of spreadsheet to study.I think then you can choose one and master it.Nuke is most favorable among many.
Seykid.
It would be great if he come out with the nuke spreadsheet! I asked him, and he doesn't know if he wants to release it... though, I'm guessing it would be a bit more in price rather than his usual spreadsheets. I think for now, the Bowtie spreadsheet is better than any of the others, but that's all personal preference. I'm thinking the pendulum and snowflake should be coming out soon. So that will be interesting. ;)
Best Regards,
PT
Quote from: seykid29 on December 03, 2011, 01:54:46 AM
That is a lot of spreadsheet to study.I think then you can choose one and master it.Nuke is most favorable among many.
Seykid.
You are correct Seykid, jep I like also Nuke strategy :)
Timo
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on December 03, 2011, 03:27:48 AM
It would be great if he come out with the nuke spreadsheet! I asked him, and he doesn't know if he wants to release it... though, I'm guessing it would be a bit more in price rather than his usual spreadsheets. I think for now, the Bowtie spreadsheet is better than any of the others, but that's all personal preference. I'm thinking the pendulum and snowflake should be coming out soon. So that will be interesting. ;)
Best Regards,
PT
Yes, I wait it too if Kimo release Nuke spreadsheet but time will tell that..
Timo
Hi,
There has been many inquiries about the nuke spreadsheet. I am working on a basic version, based on the section characteristics within my book: red, black, odd, even, low, high, XY, DS, ABC, Star 14, 25, 36 It's all based on the skip and run, simple tracking.
On a different note: I have read comments about using the weird or odd strategy names like, hemi, nuke, phoenix, etc. I realized it may sound ridiculous. At the time of context, years ago, the team would use some of these terms as a secret language to communicate strategy choice. I never gave it much thought when describing them in my books. I could have used sectors, neighbors, street, etc., like the rest of the roulette world. I think I like saying the term Nuke, rather than saying every other six number sectors.
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo,
What do you mean by basic spreadsheets? The one's I have (all of them except the Pendulum and Pinwheel), are they basic?
Best Regards,
PT
Hi PT,
Basic does not mean less powerful, just means it's easier to understand. Most of ones you have are advanced tracking. The basic spreadsheets are straight forward and correlates with what I have in my book. Is it not the point of this thread, "learning the Kimo Li way".
Kimo Li
Hi, Merry Chritmas to all! :)
Best Regards Timo
Dead place,seems to it badly .. :skull:
Master kimo, we miss u too much. We also need ur help here in spain.
LI SENSEI!!! COME BACK PLEASE!!!
he is probably busy. but i hope he'll be back
Quote from: iggiv on January 02, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
he is probably busy. but I hope he'll be back
me too :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Will post next week. Happy New Year.
Kimo Li
kimo´s back!!! happy new year !!
Happy New Year Kimo!!!!
Not so happy, missing badly our cat, she lived 19 years old, died 1.1.-2012 with doctors spike, kidneys was broken, must end.. :((( I miss Turri so much..huoh. :'( But live goes on.
But Happy new year Kimo and Iggiv/ and others!!!
Timo
What is the Kimo Li way?
Many have bought my books and have said there was a lot of breaking down of the wheel base, but no viable strategy offered. The reason for such an elaborate breakdown is to track the frequency of each category.
It's really simple if you think about it.
The wheel is broken down to six sections (4, 6, 8, 5, 9, 7 European, 1, 5, 3, 2, 6, 4, American) minus the zeros.
Each section has defined characteristics:
Traditional: red, black, odd, even, low, and high
Global Pie categorizations:
Positions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (star positions); combined positions, A, B, C (12, 34, 56); X, Y (123, 456), Pinwheel (14, 25, 35); Dominant and subordinate (135, 264)
From the European point of view, all you need is a well developed spreadsheet, computer, and a reasonable bank.
From the perspective of the American wheel players, a great memory, pattern recognition, and trigger options are required, along with a healthy bankroll.
So, from the Kimo Li way of thinking, know every option available and choose wisely.
Kimo Li
Hey Kimo!
Thanks for the lesson! And thank you for the spreadsheet updates! It really helped since it was a little complex at first. I also like the profile picture, haha.
Hope to hear more from you!!
Best Regards,
PT
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 12, 2012, 08:45:16 PM
What is the Kimo Li way?
Many have bought my books and have said there was a lot of breaking down of the wheel base, but no viable strategy offered. The reason for such an elaborate breakdown is to track the frequency of each category.
It's really simple if you think about it.
The wheel is broken down to six sections (4, 6, 8, 5, 9, 7 European, 1, 5, 3, 2, 6, 4, American) minus the zeros.
Each section has defined characteristics:
Traditional: red, black, odd, even, low, and high
Global Pie categorizations:
Positions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (star positions); combined positions, A, B, C (12, 34, 56); X, Y (123, 456), Pinwheel (14, 25, 35); Dominant and subordinate (135, 264)
From the European point of view, all you need is a well developed spreadsheet, computer, and a reasonable bank.
From the perspective of the American wheel players, a great memory, pattern recognition, and trigger options are required, along with a healthy bankroll.
So, from the Kimo Li way of thinking, know every option available and choose wisely.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo!
I want also thank you from updates and lessons!! :) Hope you will keep coming lessons in future also!
Best wishes Timo
Ps. NUKE IT, It will be music to my ears.. :thumbsup:
Let's look at the traditional tracking of red and black, using Bayes sample 50
There are 135 black numbers and 165 red numbers. How would you use that information? What strategy would you employ?
08 B
25
36
15 B
07
09
35 B
33 B
22 B
17 B
22 B
24 B
35 B
14
28 B
36
31 B
23
17 B
20 B
02 B
29 B
29 B
09
15 B
30
15 B
11 B
21
32
28 B
26 B
07
29 B
18
17 B
28 B
29 B
30
19
11 B
17 B
14
23
04 B
27
27
12
27
0
20 B
29 B
20 B
15 B
15 B
32
0
21
18
24 B
33 B
23
03
36
05
08 B
22 B
05
18
23
20 B
17 B
13 B
33 B
08 B
32
21
12
17 B
08 B
32
09
06 B
30
21
07
24 B
02 B
07
12
10 B
16
13 B
25
18
20 B
23
30
0
26 B
22 B
34
20 B
16
34
26 B
15 B
08 B
34
32
17 B
0
17 B
26 B
01
01
23
23
21
22 B
15 B
27
15 B
07
35 B
19
01
18
09
20 B
18
20 B
30
09
25
11 B
35 B
0
31 B
24 B
22 B
11 B
24 B
10 B
27
18
03
18
35 B
01
13 B
17 B
03
32
25
21
31 B
16
03
16
25
31 B
21
18
29 B
01
30
13 B
16
19
09
11 B
32
31 B
02 B
08 B
20 B
15 B
17 B
27
16
17 B
14
20 B
27
01
25
32
01
04 B
31 B
21
22 B
32
23
34
0
21
08 B
08 B
07
16
06 B
24 B
27
34
14
27
29 B
03
14
13 B
13 B
26 B
24 B
12
25
0
13 B
24 B
33 B
13 B
35 B
06 B
23
02 B
01
35 B
24 B
08 B
36
09
04
14
27
12
12
11 B
07
14
11 B
16
28 B
03
16
22 B
35 B
04 B
27
27
03
03
09
22 B
20 B
23
27
25
21
12
09
35 B
0
26 B
33 B
14
14
23
19 B
15 B
31 B
07
13 B
02 B
28 B
30
01
26 B
12
01
26 B
24 B
12
27
19
25
06 B
09
0
23
20 B
34
36
01
0
11 B
12
08 B
01
IS THIS EUROPEAN SPINS.IF YES GIVEN THE FIRST FEW SPINS
08 B
25
36
15 B i will just here and bet 2 4 6 8 10 11 13 15 17 (going nuke i bet 2 4 15 11 8 10 31 22 29)
07
09
35 B
33 B
22 B (win with Nuke with progression)
17 B win on 6 spins win progression
22 B
24 B
Small example of playing as it comes.But puting down on spreadsheet is another story :)
Seykid,
QuoteFrom the perspective of the American wheel players, a great memory, pattern recognition, and trigger options are required, along with a healthy bankroll.
You are American Player and know how to apply to European wheel. Well done.
Kimo Li
Same numbers (Bayes sample 50) in six number increments. Now tracking Global Pies 468 and 597 with red and black characteristics.
08 25 36 15 07 09
35 33 22 17 22 24
35 14 28 36 31 23
17 20 02 29 29 09
15 30 15 11 21 32
28 26 07 29 18 17
28 29 30 19 11 17
14 23 04 27 27 12
27 20 29 20 15
15 32 21 18 24
33 23 03 36 05 08
22 05 18 23 20 17
13 33 08 32 21 12
17 08 32 09 06 30
21 07 24 02 07 12
10 16 13 25 18 20
23 30 26 22 34
20 16 34 26 15 08
34 32 17 17 26
01 01 23 23 21 22
15 27 15 07 35 19
01 18 09 20 18 20
30 09 25 11 35
31 24 22 11 24 10
27 18 03 18 35 01
13 17 03 32 25 21
31 16 03 16 25 31
21 18 29 01 30 13
16 19 09 11 32 31
02 08 20 15 17 27
16 17 14 20 27 01
25 32 01 04 31 21
22 32 23 34 21
08 08 07 16 06 24
27 34 14 27 29 03
14 13 13 26 24 12
25 13 24 33
13 35 06 23 02 01
35 24 08 36 09 04
14 27 12 12 11 07
14 11 16 28 03 16
22 35 04 27 27 03
03 09 22 20 23 27
25 21 12 09 35
26 33 14 14 23 19
15 31 07 13 02 28
30 01 26 12 01 26
24 12 27 19 25 06
09 23 20 34 36
01 11 12 08 01
Column one (T) is the number of times sections 4, 6, 8 (first half of the wheel) hit in six spins and how many were red (R) and black (B)
T R B
4 2 2
1 1
2 2
2 2
6 3 3
1 1
4 2 2
4 3 1
2 1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
2 1 1
4 2 2
5 2 3
2 1 1
3 1 2
3 3
3 1 2
4 2 2
3 3
4 2 2
3 2 1
2 2
1 1
5 3 2
1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
5 1 4
2 1 1
4 3 1
4 4
3 3
3 3
2 2
2 1 1
4 1 3
3 1 2
2 1 1
1 1
3 2 1
2 2
2 2
2 2
3 3
1 1
4 3 1
3 3
2 2
Column one (T) is the number of times sections 5, 9, 7 (second half of the wheel) hit in six spins and how many were red (R) and black (B)
T R B
2 2
5 5
4 1 3
4 1 3
5 2 3
2 2
2 2
3 3
2 1 1
3 2 1
4 2 2
2 1 1
1 1
4 3 1
3 2 1
2 2
3 1 2
1 1
3 2 1
2 1 1
6 4 2
2 1 1
4 4
5 4 1
1 1
5 3 2
3 2 1
3 2 1
1 1
4 3 1
2 1 1
1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
4 2 2
2 2
2 1 1
3 1 2
4 4
5 4 1
3 1 2
4 2 2
3 2 1
4 2 2
3 1 2
5 3 2
2 1 1
2 1 1
3 3
Do you see where this is going? If you don't here's a hint. Imagine tracking all the other traditional characteristics of odd, even, low, high. Now throw in the rest of the characteristics described in my books and you get unlimited possibilities. Get the picture?
Kimo Li
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 13, 2012, 03:11:38 AM
Same numbers (Bayes sample 50) in six number increments. Now tracking Global Pies 468 and 597 with red and black characteristics.
08 25 36 15 07 09
35 33 22 17 22 24
35 14 28 36 31 23
17 20 02 29 29 09
15 30 15 11 21 32
28 26 07 29 18 17
28 29 30 19 11 17
14 23 04 27 27 12
27 20 29 20 15
15 32 21 18 24
33 23 03 36 05 08
22 05 18 23 20 17
13 33 08 32 21 12
17 08 32 09 06 30
21 07 24 02 07 12
10 16 13 25 18 20
23 30 26 22 34
20 16 34 26 15 08
34 32 17 17 26
01 01 23 23 21 22
15 27 15 07 35 19
01 18 09 20 18 20
30 09 25 11 35
31 24 22 11 24 10
27 18 03 18 35 01
13 17 03 32 25 21
31 16 03 16 25 31
21 18 29 01 30 13
16 19 09 11 32 31
02 08 20 15 17 27
16 17 14 20 27 01
25 32 01 04 31 21
22 32 23 34 21
08 08 07 16 06 24
27 34 14 27 29 03
14 13 13 26 24 12
25 13 24 33
13 35 06 23 02 01
35 24 08 36 09 04
14 27 12 12 11 07
14 11 16 28 03 16
22 35 04 27 27 03
03 09 22 20 23 27
25 21 12 09 35
26 33 14 14 23 19
15 31 07 13 02 28
30 01 26 12 01 26
24 12 27 19 25 06
09 23 20 34 36
01 11 12 08 01
Column one (T) is the number of times sections 4, 6, 8 (first half of the wheel) hit in six spins and how many were red (R) and black (B)
T R B
4 2 2
1 1
2 2
2 2
6 3 3
1 1
4 2 2
4 3 1
2 1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
2 1 1
4 2 2
5 2 3
2 1 1
3 1 2
3 3
3 1 2
4 2 2
3 3
4 2 2
3 2 1
2 2
1 1
5 3 2
1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
5 1 4
2 1 1
4 3 1
4 4
3 3
3 3
2 2
2 1 1
4 1 3
3 1 2
2 1 1
1 1
3 2 1
2 2
2 2
2 2
3 3
1 1
4 3 1
3 3
2 2
Column one (T) is the number of times sections 5, 9, 7 (second half of the wheel) hit in six spins and how many were red (R) and black (B)
T R B
2 2
5 5
4 1 3
4 1 3
5 2 3
2 2
2 2
3 3
2 1 1
3 2 1
4 2 2
2 1 1
1 1
4 3 1
3 2 1
2 2
3 1 2
1 1
3 2 1
2 1 1
6 4 2
2 1 1
4 4
5 4 1
1 1
5 3 2
3 2 1
3 2 1
1 1
4 3 1
2 1 1
1 1
3 2 1
3 2 1
4 2 2
2 2
2 1 1
3 1 2
4 4
5 4 1
3 1 2
4 2 2
3 2 1
4 2 2
3 1 2
5 3 2
2 1 1
2 1 1
3 3
Do you see where this is going? If you don't here's a hint. Imagine tracking all the other traditional characteristics of odd, even, low, high. Now throw in the rest of the characteristics described in my books and you get unlimited possibilities. Get the picture?
Kimo Li
:thumbsup:
What I have introduced to you is called the Global Pie Red and Black QUADS.
It involves tracking nine numbers (four sets) and using six number increments in this case. However, other increments may be used as well. It depends on what you determine as your goal.
Global Pie 468 red numbers
Global Pie 468 black numbers
Global Pie 597 red numbers
Global Pie 597 black numbers
This concept applies to all of the Global Pie strategies, and yes that includes the NUKE.
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo,
You mention you got these spins from my "challenge" thread (sample #50). This sample was actually generated by a pseudo-RNG, they didn't come from a real wheel. For the purpose of your demo, it may not matter, but just thought I'd mention it. :good:
Hi Bayes,
Thanks for the info. I see (sample 23) are actual. So let's see what that looks like.
There are 136 black, 158 red, and 6 zeros. Here's something interesting: Sections 468 and 597 have exactly 147 spins on each side of the wheel.
26 B
18
31 B
1
15 B
18
25
6 B
14
23
12
11 B
35 B
7
33 B
34
6 B
18
23
8 B
4 B
14
35 B
25
30
8 B
29 B
9
1
1
9
19
20 B
30
11 B
11 B
19
9
1
10 B
13 B
21
28 B
7
19
26 B
30
35 B
28 B
24 B
8 B
9
23
5
32
10 B
2 B
19
28 B
27
19
33 B
25
5
18
35 B
12
23
13 B
20 B
7
8 B
7
15 B
27
15 B
19
2 B
10 B
26 B
2 B
11 B
2 B
1
15 B
19
33 B
14
33 B
27
13 B
29 B
26 B
18
30
19
12
14
6 B
21
4 B
14
17 B
12
10 B
34
35 B
18
34
28 B
16
14
18
20 B
25
9
18
1
5
5
5
16
6 B
26 B
28 B
32
4 B
17 B
3
12
30
11 B
29 B
24 B
21
4 B
22 B
35 B
33 B
27
7
3
36
7
28 B
21
4 B
8 B
22 B
22 B
19
29 B
17 B
8 B
7
12
35 B
19
10 B
20 B
14
12
27
26 B
20 B
2 B
35 B
35 B
5
21
36
23
7
15 B
21
23
2 B
17 B
30
3
14
20 B
26 B
10 B
17 B
19
7
26 B
32
22 B
12
18
8 B
27
27
3
9
18
11 B
4 B
6 B
6 B
18
9
10 B
33 B
32
25
25
35 B
8 B
19
27
11 B
28 B
5
4 B
21
5
31 B
32
1
26 B
19
2 B
8 B
9
31 B
13 B
19
32
24 B
9
8 B
2 B
15 B
4 B
22 B
9
2 B
31 B
19
9
5
25
8 B
5
1
9
35 B
36
33 B
30
36
33 B
12
4 B
17 B
20 B
9
1
36
11 B
12
24 B
30
15 B
2 B
22 B
32
36
16
17 B
16
32
7
17 B
3
10 B
4 B
14
16
5
2 B
2 B
1
21
11 B
18
23
9
9
27
10 B
Here are the numbers in six number increments.
26 18 31 01 15 18
25 06 14 23 12 11
35 07 33 34 06 18
23 08 04 14 35 25
30 08 29 09 01 01
09 19 20 30 11 11
19 09 01 10 13 21
28 07 19 26 30 35
28 24 08 09 23 05
32 10 02 19 28 27
19 33 25 05 0 18
35 12 23 13 20 07
08 07 15 27 15 19
02 10 26 02 11 02
01 15 19 33 14 33
27 13 29 26 18 30
19 12 14 06 21 04
14 17 12 10 34 35
18 34 28 16 14 18
20 25 09 18 01 05
05 05 16 06 26 28
32 04 17 03 12 30
11 29 24 21 04 22
35 33 27 07 03 36
07 28 21 04 08 22
22 19 29 0 17 08
07 12 35 19 10 20
14 12 27 26 20 02
35 35 05 21 36 23
07 15 21 23 02 17
30 03 14 20 26 10
17 19 07 26 32 22
12 18 08 27 27 03
09 18 11 04 06 0
06 18 09 10 33 32
25 25 35 08 19 27
11 28 05 04 21 05
31 32 01 26 19 02
08 09 31 13 19 32
24 09 08 02 15 04
22 09 02 31 19 09
05 25 0 08 05 01
09 35 36 33 30 36
33 12 04 17 20 09
01 36 11 12 0 24
30 15 02 22 32 36
16 17 16 32 07 17
03 10 04 14 16 05
02 02 01 21 11 0
18 23 09 09 27 10
468 - red 71, black 76 (147 hits on 468 half)
597 - red 87, black 60 (147 hits on 597 half)
six zeros
468 597
T R B T R B
1 0 1 5 3 2
4 2 2 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
2 1 1 4 3 1
4 2 2 2 1 1
4 2 2 2 2 0
2 2 0 4 1 3
2 1 1 4 2 2
5 3 2 1 0 1
2 2 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
5 2 3 1 1 0
5 0 5 1 0 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 2 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
1 1 0 5 4 1
1 1 0 5 4 1
1 0 1 5 3 2
4 2 2 2 2 0
3 1 2 3 0 3
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 1 2 3 1 2
3 1 2 2 0 2
2 1 1 4 2 2
2 1 1 4 2 2
3 3 0 3 1 2
5 2 3 1 1 0
2 1 1 4 2 2
3 2 1 3 1 2
3 2 1 3 3 0
3 0 3 2 2 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
5 4 1 1 0 1
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
4 0 4 2 1 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
2 1 1 3 3 0
3 3 0 3 1 2
2 0 2 4 2 2
2 1 1 3 2 1
5 3 2 1 0 1
3 1 2 3 3 0
2 0 2 4 4 0
4 1 3 1 1 0
3 2 1 3 3 0
Kimo Li
What am I suppose to do with this information?
I like this strategy because it is easy to remember and calculate.
The wheel is divided into six sections.
Sections are labeled 4, 6, 8, 5, 9, 7
468 is the even half
597 is the odd half
Section 468 has high red numbers and low black numbers
Section 597 has low red numbers and high black numbers
468 red numbers: 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 30, 32, 34, 36
468 black numbers: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 13, 15, 17
597 red numbers: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 14, 16, 18
597 black numbers: 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 29, 31, 33, 35
Using the sample in the previous post, let's look at 468 red:
19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 30, 32, 34, 36
The following is the number of RED hits in the 468 half of the wheels.
Each number represents how many times 468 red hit within every six spins.
0
2
1
2
1
2
2
2
1
3
2
1
2
0
1
2
2
1
1
1
0
2
1
2
1
1
1
1
3
2
1
2
2
0
1
4
1
2
2
0
1
1
3
0
1
3
1
0
1
2
What betting strategy would you employ to make "X" amount of dollars?
Kimo Li
It should be wagered all 9 numbers with an agressive progression (fibonaci) seeking 1 hit per line while you have a consistent and positive streak as in this permanence. It is like playing microgames when you are in plus you stop the progression.
wagers chips
26 18 31 01 15 18
25 06 14 23 12 11 trigger
35 07 33 34 06 18 1 1 1 2 +27
23 08 04 14 35 25 1 +27
30 08 29 09 01 01 1 +27
09 19 20 30 11 11 1 1 +18
19 09 01 10 13 21 1 +27
28 07 19 26 30 35 1 1 1 +9
28 24 08 09 23 05 1 1 1 2 2 +9
32 10 02 19 28 27 1 +27
19 33 25 05 0 18 1 +27
35 12 23 13 20 07 1 1 1 +9
08 07 15 27 15 19 1 1 1 2 +27
02 10 26 02 11 02 1 1 1 2 2 2 stop betting till new trigger -72
01 15 19 33 14 33 trigger again
27 13 29 26 18 30 3 +108 covering last loss
19 12 14 06 21 04 1 +27
14 17 12 10 34 35 1 1 1 2 2 +9
18 34 28 16 14 18 1 1 +18
20 25 09 18 01 05 1 1 +18
05 05 16 06 26 28 1 1 1 2 2 2 stop betting till new trigger -72
32 04 17 03 12 30 trigger again
11 29 24 21 04 22 3 3 3 5 +59
35 33 27 07 03 36 2 2 2 + 36 These last wins cover my last loss.
07 28 21 04 08 22 1 1 1 +9
22 19 29 0 17 08 1 1 + 18
07 12 35 19 10 20 1 1 1 2 +27
14 12 27 26 20 02 1 1 1 +9
35 35 05 21 36 23 1 1 1 2 +27
07 15 21 23 02 17 1 1 1 +9
30 03 14 20 26 10 1 +27
17 19 07 26 32 22 1 1 +18
12 18 08 27 27 03 1 +27
09 18 11 04 06 0 1 1 1 2 2 2 -72
06 18 09 10 33 32 3 3 3 5 5 5 -36
25 25 35 08 19 27 5 +180 covering last 2 losses
11 28 05 04 21 05 1 1 1 2 2 + 18
31 32 01 26 19 02
08 09 31 13 19 32
24 09 08 02 15 04
22 09 02 31 19 09
05 25 0 08 05 01
09 35 36 33 30 36
33 12 04 17 20 09
01 36 11 12 0 24
30 15 02 22 32 36
16 17 16 32 07 17
03 10 04 14 16 05
02 02 01 21 11 0
18 23 09 09 27 10
I've not been around for a while.
A pleasure to read you Kimo again.
Happy new year for everybody.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Thanks Kimo, for the new sets of lessons and also fellow Matrix masters for the sharing.
and hey welcome back Carlos! :)
Carlos,
It is always a pleasure to see how you choose your strategy.
Loungeplayer,
What approach would you use?
On a different note: Someone had mentioned something to me about the American GPM player versus the European GPM player concerning the use of computers.
The European players can play online using spreadsheets and programs to help choose the optimum bets. The American player, while playing live at the table must rely on the information stored in their brains, and for some, a cheat sheet and a pen.
Certainly the European players have an advantage because they have the use of the computers and the single zero advantage. However, I believe the American GPM player has a greater advantage over the European player because they have the wheel and the layout memorized and can visually see in their minds what the ball is doing. Combined that with tracking skills without the use of computers, the American GPM player has a great advantage.
You don't believe me? Okay, what are the phone numbers of your friends and family without looking at your phone.
Kimo Li
well Kimo, I would arrange the numbers similarly in rows of 6... and divide them into first 3 spins and second 3 spins.
and since the previous row of six numbers would give me an idea of what would appear in the next row of six numbers, I would pick out 2 sets of possibilities. (For example: Pie 468 Red and Pie 597 Red)
and I would wait for first 3 spins to finish first, and then just enter for the 2nd 3 spins on one chosen set of possibility.
and repeat it over and over again until target is hit. flat betting all the way, increasing on certain bet selections only when I am winning (eg: betting 2-3 units extra heavy on certain bets).
hit target and walk away. and leave some on the table. (lol)
thanks Kimo, you really taught me a lot about perception. amazing. (Fooled by randomness in the past)
P.S. I am an European wheel player and I need not track with computer. Again, many thanks to Kimo's materials, the entire wheel and almost all movements are engraved into my mind.
Loungeplayer,
I am impressed. You speak with great confidence. That is the strategy I would have employed.
Kimo Li
Thank you Grandmaster. :)
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual), Loungeplayer, does the same approach work?
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
For those who want to try, here are the 468 RED AND 597 RED numbers.
468 RED
32 19 21
25 34 27
36 30 23
597 RED
05 16 01
14 09 18
07 12 03
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 15, 2012, 03:39:41 PM
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual), Loungeplayer, does the same approach work?
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
For those who want to try, here are the 468 RED AND 597 RED numbers.
468 RED
32 19 21
25 34 27
36 30 23
597 RED
05 16 01
14 09 18
07 12 03
Thanks for the lessons Kimo! :thumbsup:
Quote from: seykid29 on January 13, 2012, 01:37:03 AM
IS THIS EUROPEAN SPINS.IF YES GIVEN THE FIRST FEW SPINS
08 B
25
36
15 B I will just here and bet 2 4 6 8 10 11 13 15 17 (going nuke I bet 2 4 15 11 8 10 31 22 29)
07
09
35 B
33 B
22 B (win with Nuke with progression)
17 B win on 6 spins win progression
22 B
24 B
Small example of playing as it comes.But puting down on spreadsheet is another story :)
Hi all! In this example why would not bet 32,15,19,36,11,30,14,31,9 because more X than Y?? Maybe stupid question but ask anyway... If Kimo or somebody could answer? :)
Timo
Hi Timo,
That's the beauty of Kimo's teachings and spreadsheets. Everyone sees something different and can use that as an advantage. Good observation BTW.
Best Regards,
PT
Quote from: Timo on January 18, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
Hi all! In this example why would not bet 32,15,19,36,11,30,14,31,9 because more X than Y?? Maybe stupid question but ask anyway... If Kimo or somebody could answer? :)
Timo
Timo in this small example im betting after 4 spins dominant factor as if playing as it comes in the head you can say,like Pokertwist said each in his own way..but putting on spreadsheet that is another story :whistle:
Hello! Ok, thanks for your replys mates! :)
Cheers!
Timo
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Odd and Even looks like
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
T= Total
O= Odd
E= Even
468 ODD 468 EVEN
15 19 21 32 04 02
25 17 27 13 34 06
11 23 36 30 08 10
597 ODD 597 EVEN
05 33 01 24 16 20
31 09 29 14 22 18
07 35 03 28 12 26
468 597
T O E T O E
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
3 1 2 3 3 0
2 2 0 4 3 1
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 0 2
2 1 1 4 3 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
5 4 1 1 1 0
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 1 2 2 1 1
4 3 1 1 0 1
1 1 0 5 2 3
2 1 1 4 1 3
4 3 1 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 2 1
1 0 1 5 3 2
1 0 1 5 3 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
3 1 2 3 3 0
4 3 1 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 3 1
2 1 1 4 1 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 1 0 5 1 4
4 2 2 2 1 1
2 0 2 3 1 2
5 0 5 1 1 0
4 0 4 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 1 2
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 1 2 3 2 1
4 2 2 2 2 0
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 1 1
2 1 1 4 3 1
3 1 2 3 1 2
2 0 2 4 3 1
3 3 0 3 3 0
4 2 2 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 0 3
2 1 1 4 2 2
2 0 2 4 1 3
3 1 2 3 2 1
1 1 0 5 2 3
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 21, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Odd and Even looks like
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
T= Total
O= Odd
E= Even
468 ODD 468 EVEN
15 19 21 32 04 02
25 17 27 13 34 06
11 23 36 30 08 10
597 ODD 597 EVEN
05 33 01 24 16 20
31 09 29 14 22 18
07 35 03 28 12 26
468 597
T O E T O E
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
3 1 2 3 3 0
2 2 0 4 3 1
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 0 2
2 1 1 4 3 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
5 4 1 1 1 0
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 1 2 2 1 1
4 3 1 1 0 1
1 1 0 5 2 3
2 1 1 4 1 3
4 3 1 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 2 1
1 0 1 5 3 2
1 0 1 5 3 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
3 1 2 3 3 0
4 3 1 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 3 1
2 1 1 4 1 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 1 0 5 1 4
4 2 2 2 1 1
2 0 2 3 1 2
5 0 5 1 1 0
4 0 4 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 1 2
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 1 2 3 2 1
4 2 2 2 2 0
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 1 1
2 1 1 4 3 1
3 1 2 3 1 2
2 0 2 4 3 1
3 3 0 3 3 0
4 2 2 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 0 3
2 1 1 4 2 2
2 0 2 4 1 3
3 1 2 3 2 1
1 1 0 5 2 3
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo! So you put all information to"one" Nuke ,Hemi or what using to? Correct?
Cheers!
Timo
PS. You are very genius Kimo!! :)
Hi Timo,
If you put the same information on the Global Pie spreadsheet, you would get the same information.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo!
Yes, the numbers will be all the same what you are "playing" with..But but.. Of course they will come same GP method also but how you use your Nuke, Bowtie and so on, you know Kimo, my mate but I am still just a novice, you are PRO!! :)
And I am very happy that some like you give us your teachings!! :) THANKS!!!
Cheers!
Timo
Hi Timo,
You are absolutely correct. The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own. You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 21, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
Hi Timo,
You are absolutely correct. The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own. You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo! I know that I am just scratching surfase.. There is lot, lot more..! Maybe takes 5-10 years when I know about roulette 10% what you do. And I say I dont studying your methods that I come rich, just a paper I think, if food and roof your head up and jobs thats important plus love your family, which is most important, I think. Just fascinating how you beat up roulette, its what me keep up in this game, because its beatable, matter who says different.
Cheers!
Timo
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 21, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
Hi Timo,
You are absolutely correct. The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own. You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo! And the "eye" comes practising, practising..? It wont happen like flash I suppose? :)
Best Regards Timo
Hi Timo,
You have a lot of wisdom. A stable home family, and friends is the most important. I too share the same feelings. Those who know me personally, know that I donate my time and money to build picnic tables and benches to give away anonymously. That is what makes my soul be at peace.
Something terrible happen in my life thirty years ago. In order for me to keep my sanity I needed to keep my mind busy. So, I decided to do the "impossible", that is to break the code of roulette. I did not do it for the money. I did to keep my sanity. I spent all my time doing so. It was great because it kept me from thinking about what had happened in my life. I did not expect to figure it out, but I did.
Kimo Li
hi Kimo, sorry i missed out on the message you had for me earlier in this thread. Yes, for the live numbers you posted earlier, it would still apply as I tried out the similar principles but I used Nuke Quads.
For all fellow students following this thread, what Kimo posted here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=19191.msg143568#msg143568 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=19191.msg143568#msg143568)
that is very very very important, in my humble opinion, he is hinting us on a concept in GPM called 'Equal Distribution'.
Digest that, and you would get new nutrients in your roulette path! :)
LP
With a good map,you can drive around safely,given the map of roulette it's the same the guess :clapping:
QuoteWith a good map,you can drive around safely,given the map of roulette it's the same the guess
Hi Seykid,
That's a great analogy.
Kimo Li
Hi loungeplayer,
Quote...he is hinting us on a concept in GPM called 'Equal Distribution'
Nice one, everything will eventually balance itself.
Kimo Li
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Low and High looks like
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
T = Total
L = Low
H = High
468 597
T L H T L H
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 0 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 0 1 4 4 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 1 2 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
5 1 4 1 0 1
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 3 1
3 1 2 2 2 0
4 2 2 1 1 0
1 1 0 5 3 2
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 0 4 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
1 0 1 5 2 3
1 0 1 5 1 4
4 2 2 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 3 0
4 2 2 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 3 1
2 1 1 4 0 4
4 1 3 2 0 2
1 1 0 5 4 1
4 3 1 2 0 2
2 1 1 3 1 2
5 4 1 1 0 1
4 1 3 2 2 0
3 2 1 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 2 0
2 0 2 4 2 2
3 3 0 3 0 3
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 0 4 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 1 2
2 1 1 4 3 1
2 2 0 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 3 0
1 1 0 5 1 4
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 22, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Hi Timo,
You have a lot of wisdom. A stable home family, and friends is the most important. I too share the same feelings. Those who know me personally, know that I donate my time and money to build picnic tables and benches to give away anonymously. That is what makes my soul be at peace.
Something terrible happen in my life thirty years ago. In order for me to keep my sanity I needed to keep my mind busy. So, I decided to do the "impossible", that is to break the code of roulette. I did not do it for the money. I did to keep my sanity. I spent all my time doing so. It was great because it kept me from thinking about what had happened in my life. I did not expect to figure it out, but I did.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo! Thanks for the nice words! :) And keep sharing your information; thanks! :thumbsup:
Cheers!
Timo
I guess no one's studying, no feedback, no questions, so I'll stop for now.
Kimo Li
Waiting for your book to arrive today. I have the spreadsheet, but it does mention to read the book first to fully understand the sheet. I will ask questions as soon as I read the book. I did notice at one table the other day the 7, 11 and nine came out one after the other, so there might really be something to the idea.
Hello Felix,
An American roulette player, how refreshing. I will start to post for the American players as well. The ball is falling into section one, it's repeating. You will see it on your spreadsheet and you will begin to see a lot of patterns which you will quickly identify when you are playing live at the casino. The European players have the luxury of playing online and the spreadsheets readily available.
Kimo Li
Actually going to a B/M now with the wife. This time I will watch more than play to see if I can spot a few of the pattern's that I have seen in previews of your book on line. Will keep you informed.
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 27, 2012, 11:02:03 AM
I guess no one's studying, no feedback, no questions, so I'll stop for now.
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo! Thats not true, I practise about 1-3 hour in day live wheel with Nuke, so absolutely I am studying, no question about that, there is so plenty of information what you have gave to us, and I am thanful for that! :)
Cheers!
Timo
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 23, 2012, 11:14:59 AM
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Low and High looks like
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
13 0 25 13 34 12
33 12 11 16 09 24
21 12 22 16 29 06
30 01 19 23 26 27
16 01 17 31 10 13
07 30 05 24 28 33
32 28 31 31 28 01
10 35 20 25 23 10
21 36 03 08 07 01
14 08 23 21 11 31
29 09 05 0 18 30
22 17 36 35 28 24
20 36 21 24 21 08
11 16 22 07 14 16
36 11 22 10 13 31
09 28 28 0 30 10
31 10 30 04 06 06
30 12 02 01 30 30
18 09 28 17 13 21
16 27 29 29 20 15
36 23 35 24 05 32
13 06 21 29 03 30
12 26 06 13 25 35
23 16 10 01 06 32
07 33 32 05 19 26
13 08 35 24 02 20
28 05 35 08 04 05
03 25 13 31 35 11
30 21 26 21 28 32
26 06 20 36 12 25
03 14 06 07 23 28
10 16 22 04 26 35
32 05 16 25 07 32
13 26 33 22 26 09
T = Total
L = Low
H = High
468 597
T L H T L H
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 0 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 0 1 4 4 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 1 2 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
5 1 4 1 0 1
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 3 1
3 1 2 2 2 0
4 2 2 1 1 0
1 1 0 5 3 2
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 0 4 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
1 0 1 5 2 3
1 0 1 5 1 4
4 2 2 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 3 0
4 2 2 2 1 1
1 0 1 4 3 1
2 1 1 4 0 4
4 1 3 2 0 2
1 1 0 5 4 1
4 3 1 2 0 2
2 1 1 3 1 2
5 4 1 1 0 1
4 1 3 2 2 0
3 2 1 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 1 1
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 2 2 2 2 0
2 0 2 4 2 2
3 3 0 3 0 3
2 2 0 4 2 2
3 2 1 3 1 2
4 0 4 2 0 2
3 1 2 3 1 2
2 1 1 4 3 1
2 2 0 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 3 0
1 1 0 5 1 4
Nobody say nothing, ok I will what I "see".. There is no zero hit 468/597 all those numbers, and reverse hit if same numbers in pies, but not always..Hmm, just my little notice, but that is better than nothing, guess. :girl_wacko:
Timo
Good observation Timo. Interesting.
iggy
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 27, 2012, 11:02:03 AM
I guess no one's studying, no feedback, no questions, so I'll stop for now.
Kimo Li
They have all given up, its hopeless. Oh well.
Quote from: cheese on January 28, 2012, 06:32:26 AM
They have all given up, its hopeless. Oh well.
Or making money, no my problem what you think about Kimos teachings but he is genius. Your bad.
Timo
And cheese, why you are always saying to some bad to Kimos teachings.. What is your problem seriously? I guess you dont know that yourself, just "must" disagree point of viewes, correct?
Timo
for you cheese. :) learn some idiom
"Empty vessels make the most noise"
Please note:
If the totals for 468 and 597 is less that six, then that means a zero had hit within the six spins.
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
T = Total
L = Low
H = High
468 597
T L H T L H
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 0 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 0 1 4 4 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 1 2 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
5 1 4 1 0 1
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 3 1
3 1 2 2 2 0
Thanks Kimo :)
Hi Kimo,
Looking at the reviews on amazon, most of the reviewers complain that there is no strategy in your books, so I'm wondering why you didn't include in them the info you've posted in this thread?
Hi Bayes,
The intended audience for my first book was for the intellectual. Someone who would digest the information and appreciate the challenge of building upon the ideas. The second book was written because there was a demand for the single zero wheel, which I would have not written if I could have not figured out how it was created. Since my thought process was already geared to think in a certain way, it did not take long to figure out how the single zero wheel was created.
The community colleges here were offering blackjack and poker classes. The book was written to facilitate this type of venue. I decided to teach my methods in a classroom environment, where interaction and creatively go hand in hand. Unfortunately, the school decided that my ideas were too radical and not mainstream. They declined. So the rest is history, the book became available to the public.
Had my audience been "just show me the money" the book would have been different. By the way, there is little money to be made in writing books, unless you have a large intended target audience. Roulette enthusiasts is a small subculture.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 30, 2012, 12:05:57 PM
Hi Bayes,
QuoteThe intended audience for my first book was for the intellectual. Someone who would digest the information and appreciate the challenge of building upon the ideas.
I dont regard myself as an intellectual but I took the challenge on working upon your ideas. I found it very refreshing.
The way you undressed the wheel let me think out of the box. It was a different approach from those i'd already seen, studied and tested.
It didnt take me long to understand your teachings were intended as a tool to develop distinct strategies.
There was not a system to be found in your books. The nature of randonmess will condemn all systems to tank, sooner or later.
Then something much more powerful than a system should be created to try putting up with something changing as roulette outcomes. So matrices were the answer to trap random events in its self behaviour.
Matrices to messure tendencies, rhythms of events produced by ball movements when hitting the target.
Thanks again to Kimo for helping me change my mindset about the game.
Nowadays i can beat roulette when randonm conditions stubbornly, from time to time, dispose events to come in a way i can follow the flow. Knowledge, patience, and MM do let me achieve my sessions score.
Cheers,
Carlos.
You are welcome Carlos.
Thank you for opening your mind to new ideas and validating what I have been trying to teach. You consider yourself not an intellectual. I beg to differ. Your curiosity and tenacity to constantly learn proves otherwise. More importantly, you were able to create, develop, and implement your own strategies. You are correct. Matrices have opened the door to give meaning to randomness. There are many people like you who have done the same. They have spent a lot of time studying, always learning and discovering new things.
Kimo Li
Thanks for the reply, Kimo. I agree with Carpanta in that no systems will work consistently - you need to be more flexible than that.
QuotePlease note:
If the totals for 468 and 597 is less that six, then that means a zero had hit within the six spins.
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
T = Total
L = Low
H = High
468 597
T L H T L H
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 0 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 0 1 4 4 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 1 2 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
5 1 4 1 0 1
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 3 1
3 1 2 2 2 0
Hi KImo;
QuotePlease note:
If the totals for 468 and 597 is less that six, then that means a zero had hit within the six spins.
18 08 11 21 0 29
13 15 24 26 10 33
22 27 31 19 06 10
34 16 07 0 18 18
31 30 02 03 18 32
05 17 35 02 03 08
33 23 11 05 24 01
15 06 0 05 32 21
18 22 33 25 34 15
16 15 34 34 19 18
01 35 31 21 28 02
25 30 09 14 28 23
27 13 31 27 25 34
03 14 34 35 36 32
03 31 17 12 12 15
03 27 12 0 30 06
T = Total
L = Low
H = High
468 597
T L H T L H
3 2 1 2 1 1
3 3 0 3 0 3
4 2 2 2 0 2
1 0 1 4 4 0
3 1 2 3 2 1
3 3 0 3 2 1
2 1 1 4 2 2
4 2 2 1 1 0
3 1 2 3 1 2
4 1 3 2 2 0
2 1 1 4 1 3
3 0 3 3 2 1
5 1 4 1 0 1
3 0 3 3 2 1
2 2 0 4 3 1
3 1 2 2 2 0
Hi Kimo;
Would it be possible for you to give us an example of how you would play the above set of spins ?
iggy
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 26, 2011, 11:14:36 AM
iggiv, Carpanta, Seykid, and loungeplayer, and others
Thank you for your kind words and support.
I want to share a concept to show why beginners need to learn the basics in order to appreciate advanced principles.
"What do you know? It's the Matrix."
I am going to explain something about the Matrix. The Matrix is not in my books. One thing I did mention in my book is that "all numbers are star numbers". No matter how you divide the wheel into six sections starting at any number (excluding the zeros) the star numbers, which are the numbers that are vertical, for example, 28, 20, 15, 27, 19, and 16 will never change. Look below and you will see what I mean. Each Matrix has moved one number. Yet the star numbers have not changed. That is one constant that I can rely on. Advance players know how to use this information. Beginners this is something to ponder.
28, 09, 26, 30, 11, 07
20, 32, 17, 05, 22, 34
15, 03, 24, 36, 13, 01
27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 08
19, 31, 18, 06, 21, 33
16, 04, 23, 35, 14, 02
09, 26, 30, 11, 07, 20
32, 17, 05, 22, 34, 15
03, 24, 36, 13, 01, 27
10, 25, 29, 12, 08, 19
31, 18, 06, 21, 33, 16
04, 23, 35, 14, 02, 28
26, 30, 11, 07, 20, 32
17, 05, 22, 34, 15, 03
24, 36, 13, 01, 27, 10
25, 29, 12, 08, 19, 31
18, 06, 21, 33, 16, 04
23, 35, 14, 02, 28, 09
30, 11, 07, 20, 32, 17
05, 22, 34, 15, 03, 24
36, 13, 01, 27, 10, 25
29, 12, 08, 19, 31, 18
06, 21, 33, 16, 04, 23
35, 14, 02, 28, 09, 26
etc
Kimo Li
Hi Kimo! I recently noticed that if you change those numbers to European wheel and little bit simple form ( to me ) so stars would go like this:
1 2 3 4 5 6
2 3 4 5 6 1
3 4 5 6 1 2
4 5 6 1 2 3
5 6 1 2 3 4
6 1 2 3 4 5
Correct..?
Regards Timo
Eh, maybe stupid idea but idea anyway. :scratch_ones_head:
Timo
Hi Timo,
Your matrix shows how the star numbers move. It's actually brilliant.
Kimo Li
Hi Iggy,
How I would use the information is by looking at which half of the wheel the ball is favoring. Then I would select which character is running. I would bet for six spins and stop when it hits, which means that I would stop if it hits on the first, second, third, etc.
If it misses, I would start the process all over again with consideration of what has already been "invested". Depending on my target goal, my bets would increase accordingly.
Since I am betting low numbers on one half of the wheel, for example, that would be nine numbers, my total investment would be 54 units. The question is how much I need to bet on the next string of numbers to make up for the 54 units and how much profit I need to make, whether it is a percentage or targeted amount.
In any case, I know that my numbers will come in. It's just a matter of how much money I want to make.
The examples of odd, even, low, high which I have posted is to show how numbers are categorized and how it can be tracked. There are more characteristics to consider before I would make a decision as to which numbers I would bet.
But to keep things simple, the premise to bet running trends in a set period of six spins allows the roulette player to see patterns develop and understand that randomness have patterns which can be tracked and measured.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on February 04, 2012, 02:47:14 PM
Hi Timo,
Your matrix shows how the star numbers move. It's actually brilliant.
Kimo Li
Hello Kimo! Huh, what I can say...I have no words.. I appreciate your comment very ,very much!!! :)
Best Wishes Timo
Hi again Kimo;
Thank you for the advice on playing. It is very much appreciated.
A new way to look at things.
iggy
Quote from: iggy on February 04, 2012, 05:40:25 PM
Hi again Kimo;
Thank you for the advice on playing. It is very much appreciated.
A new way to look at things.
iggy
nice to see another person joining Kimo Li style game. Especially so familiar nick :)
"All numbers are star numbers." - Kimo Li
That sentence is a powerful hint.
Thanks Kimo
Where have Kimo gone, huhuu..??
Timo
Yes, I was about to ask the same.. xD
Hope you share more of your teachings!
I can't thank you enough!
Best Regards,
PT
Quote from: PokerTwist1994 on February 11, 2012, 04:53:55 PM
Yes, I was about to ask the same.. xD
Hope you share more of your teachings!
I can't thank you enough!
Best Regards,
PT
I share your feelings too PT about Kimo, I appreciate Kimo works very much and what is most important, he have shared information LOT to this forum. And I hope, of course that Kimo continues but if not, still I am grateful for lessons! :)
Cheers!
Timo
Quote from: Timo on February 11, 2012, 06:08:26 PM
I share your feelings too PT about Kimo, I appreciate Kimo works very much and what is most important, he have shared information LOT to this forum. And I hope, of course that Kimo continues but if not, still I am grateful for lessons! :)
Cheers!
Timo
"I appreciate Kimo works very much and what is most important, he have shared information LOT to this forum" Without return service, that misses from that sentence what I meant.
Pokertwist and Timo have you started playing the Kimo li ways till now????
Quote from: seykid29 on February 12, 2012, 03:07:34 AM
Pokertwist and Timo have you started playing the Kimo li ways till now????
What you think..??? Thats for me insult personally.
hi Timo, what do you mean? insult?
Quote from: Timo on February 12, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
What you think..??? Thats for me insult personally.
Quote from: loungeplayer on February 13, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
hi Timo, what do you mean? insult?
I meant really playing,not testing mode still. Get my flow.Even with all the spreadsheets,some are not really playing yet.
Truth be told im not playing this way at the moment,fully.But when im at table if I do see Nuke in colour going round and round,I pounce on it..Once in 3 spin/3 win I pounce 600 units,increasing with table money,my friend had the WTF written on his face. :) ball was going nuke black.
Seykid,
Without proper money management and DISCIPLINE one will never get ahead or build up a solid bankrol lno matter how good a system pretends to be.
Either one is playing to play or one is playing to win . That is the players decision but one can never have both.
Nathan Detroit
Quote from: seykid29 on February 13, 2012, 12:47:14 PM
I meant really playing,not testing mode still. Get my flow.Even with all the spreadsheets,some are not really playing yet.
Truth be told im not playing this way at the moment,fully.But when im at table if I do see Nuke in colour going round and round,I pounce on it..Once in 3 spin/3 win I pounce 600 units,increasing with table money,my friend had the WTF written on his face. :) ball was going nuke black.
Ok, I get the point..! :)
Timo
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on February 13, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Seykid,
Without proper money management and DISCIPLINE one will never get ahead or build up a solid bankrol lno matter how good a system pretends to be.
Either one is playing to play or one is playing to win . That is the players decision but one can never have both.
Nathan Detroit
:good:
European wheel players may have a advantage with the single zero. The American players have a visual advantage over the single zero players. American wheel players can look at the table layout and quickly determine which side of the wheel the ball is moving, simply by knowing the six pack principles.
Do get me wrong, European players can look at the board and see that the wheel is divided into two hemispheres, starting from the number 32 clockwise, low black numbers and red high numbers and the other half, low red numbers, high black numbers. However, the American wheel players have more visual connections which they can use to their advantage.
My focus will be on the double zero players. Although there are two zeros to consider, visually seeing how the ball moves counters the disadvantage of the house edge. As in any investment, money management, discipline, and risk management are necessary elements of the roulette player.
Kimo Li
Hey FELIX02721,
Haven't heard back from you. I was kinda interested in how things are coming along.
With Best Regards,
PT
Actually the wife uses the matrix more than what I do, believe it or not she manages with win quite a few bets with it. I, myself really haven't gotten the hang of it yet, so I am sticking to bets that I know and keep changing them to confuse the dealer, making a harder time to pin my bets down. Not all dealers control the spin, but I noticed a few of them actually hit the number if you place a bet for them, it happened twice in the last three times that we went. I placed a bet of 2 chips for the dealer on 17 for one spin and she hit it, the other time one chip on 29 for the dealer and he hit it right out of the gate. I'm wondering if the dealer controls the spin more than we believe. On a side note, I am noticing sections of the wheel the dealer is hitting, which leads to the bowtie, etc, I have to get in more pratice understanding the wheel and table layout bets from it (the wife is getting really good at it). Going again later this morning, let's see what happens this time when I place a bet for the dealer.
Hi Kimo, thanks for the timely sending of spreadsheets I have purchased. you even provide updates (although that is not an entitlement). :good:
I was pondering on the Global Star System and saw greater consistency with PINWHEEL (3 spaces). Is that a fact? or my eyes are playing tricks on me? (it leads me to thinking that by just using PINWHEEL alone, 3 numbers bets can be placed). May I request you to clarify / shed some hints on this please?
And by the way, since there are more purchasers/users of your various spreadsheets now.. may I start a thread to discuss among spreadsheet users (eg: I am using GLOBAL STARS and I start a global stars spreadsheet thread) to just discuss among ourselves specifically how we use them?
Please let me know as I would like everyone here who is sincerely keen to learn your ways and concepts to be able to share more specifically.. but yet I would still be concerned about disclosure issues as you have reminded me before. Okay?
Thank you in advance Kimo!
LP
Loungeplayer,
You are quite the observer. The Global Star system collectively tracks all strategies associated with the Global Star: Helicopter, Numbered Partners, Sum Connectors, Pinwheel, Dominant/Subordinate, black and red stars, odd, even, low, high, and comparing it with the Global Pie Method, as well.
So, the strategies mentioned above tracks 18, 12, and 6 numbers. These are macro analysis to the GSS, Global Star System. This facilitates the players who like to bet 6 to 18 numbers.
The micro analysis involves studying each strategy separately. In your case, you have seen how the Pinwheel Strategy isolates numbers to three betting options. All of my strategies, when viewed from the micro perspective, reveals optimum betting choices. It just so happens that you are only familiar with the Pinwheel at this time.
I hope this answers your question.
QuoteI was pondering on the Global Star System and saw greater consistency with PINWHEEL (3 spaces). Is that a fact? or my eyes are playing tricks on me? (it leads me to thinking that by just using PINWHEEL alone, 3 numbers bets can be placed). May I request you to clarify / shed some hints on this please?
I have no problems with you starting a thread to discuss strategies from my spreadsheets, as long as you do not disclose how it is designed. You may want to clear it with the forum administrators to ensure you are not violating any rules.
Kimo Li
Hey Felix,
Sounds like you almost have to place a bet for the dealers in order for the dealer to hit near your section. Next time I play I'll see if your theory works.
It must be nice to have a wife that plays roulette with you. You both can feed off each other, learning Kimo Li's theories and strategies together. Here's something you might want to observe. :thumbsup:
The Phoenix system is great when red and black are running. Notice sections one and two - red and black. Layout six-pack number 2 and number 5, the reds are broken boomerangs and the blacks are boomerangs. Global pies 3 and 5 – red and black consists of inside black arrowheads pointing in forming a "X" in six-packs 3 and 4 and the red arrowheads pointing in from six-packs 1 and 6. Global pies 6 and 4 – consists of inside red arrowheads pointing out forming a circle in six-packs 3 and 4 and black arrowheads pointing out in six-packs 1 and 6. What I like about this visual is that I can watch the ball movement and bet 6 numbers at a time.
How did you do that morning? Did the dealer try to hit your number?
With Best Regards,
PT
Hey Kimo,
I can see the strategies place on a spreadsheet, its great! :thumbsup: Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Best Regards,
PT
Hey LP,
Quote from: loungeplayer on February 17, 2012, 12:28:35 PM
Please let me know as I would like everyone here who is sincerely keen to learn your ways and concepts to be able to share more specifically.. but yet I would still be concerned about disclosure issues as you have reminded me before. Okay?
Thank you in advance Kimo!
LP
Like you I too am very interested in conversing about these spreadsheets. I was just wondering if you have admin permission.
Best Regards,
PT
After giving much thought about the expression to examine the spreadsheets, I believe this is not the place to discuss them. Let's just talk about learning the Kimo Li way.
Kimo Li
Actually, placed a chip on # 1 for the dealer and so did a few of the other players, she hit the double 00, which is right next door to the 1 (again makes me wonder). As for playing with the wife that too is a double edge sword if you know what I mean. Still trying to get the concept of the book, will read it again for the third time.
BTW played yesterday just using arrowheads, did pretty good at it. On the dealer change, took two spins to figure out where he was landing, and made a few quick hits based on this. Guess I am starting to enter the understanding stage, will continue to read and learn. :thumbsup:
thanks Kimo. I have posted at your webpage forum for specific discussions about spreadsheet usage.
you are right, for here at VLS, let's just continue with talking about and learning from you the Kimo Li way.
cheers and thanks
Hi Kimo! Thank you very much for updated Bowtie-version, there is lot to "snack".. :thumbsup:
Best regards Timo
Hi Timo,
I'm glad you like the updated version. It really shows how the Bowtie Matrix is applied to various strategies. Yep, there's a lot to "snack" on.
Kimo Li
Especially the star position combinations and betting selections in your updated bow-tie spreadsheet.
it's good stuff. a map that is clearer and clearer.
thanks Kimo :)
OOOXXX :dance1:
It is quite on the front line :whistle:,i guess the guys are busy winning :yahoo:Why not,with Kimo Info you are at an advantge. :clapping:
Quote from: seykid29 on April 02, 2012, 05:03:15 AM
It is quite on the front line :whistle:,I guess the guys are busy winning :yahoo:Why not,with Kimo Info you are at an advantge. :clapping:
Hi! Lets say very advantage! :thumbsup:
Regards Timo
That is to say,you are doing very well Timo.Or you still studying??
Quote from: seykid29 on April 09, 2012, 05:38:10 AM
That is to say,you are doing very well Timo.Or you still studying??
Jep, but I dont see it bad thing at all, going forward :)
Regards Timo
hi Kimo, over the past one week, I focused on looking at only your nuke quads (matrix 32)
very glad and also full of respect for this invention of yours.
The matrix is really a masterpiece. Thank you very much Kimo.
LP care to share your insights?
Seykid.
Hi! It would be great if LP can share thoughts to us, of course! :)
Regards Timo
Quote from: Timo on May 04, 2012, 05:11:23 PM
Hi! It would be great if LP can share thoughts to us, of course! :)
Regards Timo
I think ball is favoring somekind of Nuke, right? :) Or Quad... ;)
Regards Timo
Quote from: Timo on May 04, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
I think ball is favoring somekind of Nuke, right? :) Or Quad... ;)
Regards Timo
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The Matrix is a map, a tool to help you navigate. Along the way, while navigating, you will see road signs. Understanding the ball movements, will ENABLE you to read the road signs.
Master the Matrix and master the ball movements taught in Kimo's materials, and you will be nearer to the goldmine. :-)
Happy Weekend to all Roulette lovers.
In the movie, Men in Black, the scene where all of the experts are taking a test and Will Smith pulls the table towards his seat to use it to fill in his answers, that is an example of someone who gets it, one who understands sophisticated simplicity.
Not everyone will understand GPM. It's not for the masses. The only way you will know, is when the light comes on, or for a few, when it comes naturally. For those who don't get, you will never get it. I'm sorry for that, maybe it's a genetic thing. For those who do, "keep on, truck'in".
Kimo Li
Hi there Kimo and Loungeplayer
I have been studying the kimo li for some time (few months) and i am doing not to badly at the moment (6-9 numbers). The issue i have is the progression, and time it sometimes takes to get a hit. Now what i need to know is do you need to wait for a direct sequence to appear 468, 597, 489 etc before betting or does it not matter how it appears 579 864, etc and is this the same for the stars as well ?
Inbox me if you do not wish to discuss this on here
Many thanks
hi Lukester2010, actually I don't really understand your question.
Keep going and learning :-) you will get nearer and nearer to the key.
Hi loungeplayer,
Can i ask what kimo li systems do you use (nuke, hemi,etc) and do you flat bet, or use progression ?
my rapid roulette play just few seconds ago using kimo li concept
circle red are winning numbers
stopped at 29 due to dealer change
current play
i have to stop and change machine as it suddenly machine error
ofcrse i also have losses :)
Amazing read, and amazing thread. I have been trying to understand this for a few years, i have the book, and was really like what the hell, i put the book down for quite some time, and recently i have picked it back up, read this post and something has just CLICKED.....
I now can see the light, im understanding this on a whole new level now and obviously still learning, but Wow, i now feel confident in knowing that my bets are more successful, and i am predicting correctly.
Thank you Kimo Li.
its chinese new year!!! i was trying my luck last night :yahoo:
Quote from: marvin on December 22, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
ofcrse I also have losses :)
As i am seeing ur tracking the pies n how the ball is moving can u tell y have marked certain no in red ? I am a newbie n have just started studying the book
thank you
circled numbers are hits with bets.
slashed numbers are missed bets simply because of "no more bets!" didnt bet in time.
deciding what to bet will take probably 15-20secs while placing bet needs another 15-20sec depends if you already memorize the pies(obviously i didn't) alfa/rapid roulette will only give you 15sec to bet.
so playing on a table is more preferable since you can ask the dealer to wait for you until you finished placing your bets.
Hi all,
Here is my travel story in Kimo Li's materials.
I start studying his work some months ago. Immediately I realise that his work is a completely different approach from what I have read so far for the roulette.
I bought his book (for the European roulette) and I follow every step of his recommendations. Memorised the Pies, the Stars and then I bought one of his spreadsheets. The spreadsheet helped me to find my way on the potential bets.
For me the key is to find the frequency of the roulette events and convert them into wagers.
Even as a newbie in Kimo Li's work I have seen progress in my playing. My winning rate touch often the 75% in one hour sessions.
Of course I still have some problems with the progression which I use (sometimes Guetting, sometimes Hollandish) but I am sure as every day I am going from deep to deeper in Kimo Li's work, I will find solutions.
So, as there are so many stuff to share about Master's work lets give to this topic life again...
Happy travel to all of you in Kimo Li's work
Quote from: Kimo Li on September 25, 2011, 04:21:17 AM
Hello Cheese,
I don't recall having a conversation with you in the past. Nor, do I think you have ever sent me a private message asking about Global Pies. If you did, I don't remember.
I had a website a few years ago that explained the skip and run method, which is old as the beginning of roulette.
Here it is. There are six sectors and you keep track of each sector using a spreadsheet. Each column represents a sector. You determine which sectors are coming and mark them as the spins are generated. For example, using just one section, American wheel, the results look like this: 7, 29, 11, 30, 16, 35, 28, 14, 6, 9
Section 1
7 X
29
11 X
30 X
16
35
28 X
14
6
9 X
You do this for all sections.
Here's the key. There are six numbers in each section, which means if you were to bet one section for six times you will lose one chip if it hits on the sixth spin.
You break even.. Ok let me read on...
If you know that section one is going to come in at least once within the next six spins, you will profit, a small progression will keep you ahead.
The betting strategy is a little bit more complex than explained above. I just wanted to show you how skip and run plays a big part.
So that is the premise behind Kimo Li's way, the skip and run tracking. It's not for everyone.
But, for the very few, they don't say anything because why should they, like you said, "Thats all anybody cares about, how to win."
They want to keep it to themselves.
BTW, in regards to the post I explained to PT, knowing where the ball lands with high frequency is a very powerful tell.
Best Regards,
Kimo Li
It's been years since I posted. I noticed many people visit this section everyday. Thanks for learning.
Kimo Li
Quote from: Kimo Li on January 12, 2015, 01:59:15 PM
It's been years since I posted. I noticed many people visit this section everyday. Thanks for learning.
Kimo Li
Welcome back Kimo Li
Nice to see you here again :)
I want to share a spreadsheet that has been sent to privileged individuals. Now to this forum, as well as others.
This spreadsheet tracks the layout characteristics: red, black, odd, even, high, low, dozens, columns, streets, double streets, triple streets, etc.
For beginners and professionals.
Kimo Li
Everything posted about Kimo Li principles and methods are for recreational purpose only.
This is my next to last post.
Kimo Li
Please raise your hands if you have ever won at an B & M casino with Kimo Li `s principles .. I am also very well familiar with reviews about his book. I cannot easily be fooled.
ND
ND,
Of all the posters, I am surprised you joined that group. Well, at least I know where you stand.
Kimo Li
What is so unusual about asking a question ?
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Not one single reply to date , 7/21/ 2015, by any winner but a complaint by Kimo even asking such a question. Makes one wonder.
ND
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on June 23, 2015, 05:45:18 PM
Please raise your hands if you have ever won at an B & M casino with Kimo Li `s principles .. I am also very well familiar with reviews about his book. I cannot easily be fooled.
ND
I have. I've lost, too.
Quote from: Plam on February 14, 2016, 05:22:38 AM
"Sancta simplicitas"
False start
Fool me once. Fool me twice.
I wasted A LOT of time and money on these so-called 'profitable' strategies. I'm sure I won't be the last sucker, either. Stick to the
basics, there's nothing here as mentioned by ND.
My english is Google.
Dear Lucky9,
My reply was not intended to offend you,sorry if so you understand it.
I will motivate later.
Successful day
At another forum I was asked thie question about my winning method.:
One more question, are you using some recovery phase when you reach your loss limit 25-30%?<<<<<<<<
REPLY:
A recovery phase does not exist in my MM system. Even if I reach the loss limit of 25 % I can still leave the table a winner. Very simple explanation I Never ever replay any net winnings but I am mandated by my MM method to leave the table upon reaching the loss limit.
Simple : $ 85 net winnings on a separate stack less $ 60 loss limit.Who is the winner ? I or the casino ?
People of this generation are lazy. Instant gratification appears to be the driving force behind self satisfaction. I would go on to further say that when it comes to roulette players who seek a strategy that will win without effort, are the same players who cannot remember most phone numbers on their cell phone.
You see, if anyone wants to be successful in roulette, they need to know the landscape of the wheel. Their brain needs to know some kind of reference point in order to calculate predictions. A computer can provide many options; however, have you ever tried to using your cell phone at the table, even if you are only using it to check messages. The pit boss gets right into your face, “Sir, no phones at the table.â€
Why is that? The reason is because the casinos know that a computer can make instant calculations and provide optimum predictions for a favorable win. You have a computer. It’s your brain. Like I said, people of this generation are lazy and are quick criticize without having done any research.
You want to be a roulette player? Start by using your computer and memorize the numbers on the roulette wheel so that you have some sense of direction. You will be surprise what your brain can do. Keep in mind that is only the beginning. Lazy minds need not apply.
I agree with Kimo to make use of the computer BETWEEN your ears. Ditto for knowing he precise location of each number on the wheel .
ND.
Something to ponder posted on my website.
I had sat down on a 4 - 8 limit poker game. I am in seat 9. To my right, seat 8 is an aggressive player, meaning he raises a lot. He will be my fish today. Seats 1, 2, 3 are rocks, meaning they play only premium hands, pocket aces, kings, queens,etc. I will be able to bluff them on certain hands, meaning the flop did not hit their hands.
Seat 4 and 7 are amateurs, meaning unpredictable. I will only play premium hands when I am in a hand with them. Seat 5, he is like me. He knows what he is doing. So I will respect his play, unless he tries to challenge me. Then, I will make an effort to put him in check by trapping him. Seat 6 is an unknown, stay out his way.
It is important to size up the table before one begins to pursue playing a poker game. The same holds true when playing roulette. I treat roulette like a poker game. I study the current trends and treat each trend like a poker player. When the trend changes, I contribute that to a player leaving and a new player sitting down.
Depending on the strategy of choice, based on what is trending, I can accumulate a mass amount of money in a short period of time with roulette. However, poker takes time because the pace is much slower than roulette. The principles are the same.
In four hours, playing poker I managed to make a profit of $410.00
Kimo Li
It's been almost a year since my last post.
Something to ponder:
Roulette cannot be beaten by pure mathematics. Ask the math fanatics. Try to prove them wrong. They will torture you with proven facts. Instead, roulette can be conquered by the world of probability, data analytics, and significant statistics. It's not a pure science, not by a long shot. However, the approach will surprisingly produce consistent results, much like today's weather predictions: probability, data analytics, and significant statistics.
Good evening, i'm really happy for explain kimo li strategies. I bought kimo li European Roulette many years ago. These strategies are very good and very good statistics for number patterns. But i don't understand many things. For the prediction how many spins ,or boule, are necessary for the attack? how did you recognize the way to follow to play these strategies? thanks to Kimo and the other players and scholar.
Happy New Year everyone. Another year has passed since I had posted on this thread. I see there is a healthy group of roulette players still interested in the Kimo Li Way. There are a lot of hidden treasures here. I hope you find them. If you are on the fence about playing the Kimo Li Way, I can help you with your journey. Talk to you again in March 2020.
Kimo Li
TY Kimo for all ur info/input. I'll keep reading studying.
Catch you this coming march 2020.
8)
Quote from: revolver on January 02, 2012, 08:54:39 PM
LI SENSEI!!! COME BACK PLEASE!!!
I like that....... 8)
To learn more, go to kimoliroulette dot com
Greetings Kimi Li
I studied your way maybe 12,14
years ago. You opened my mind to a different approach.
Especially targeting sectors. I have spent 100,000,s of hours on roulette strategies over the years and eventually you have to find the one that personally works for the individual.
I found one that targets individual numbers based on their own unique frequencies. This took close to 20 years, is very unique and took a concentrated effort throughout. Reading everything I could, including some of your ideas, expands the mind on the journey.
Great to see you pop up Kimi every now and then, just like myself.
Wishing you continued success in your endeavors Kimo
All the Best
Rocky
Greetings everyone,
It's March 17, 2020. A whole year has past again. Happy Saint Patrick's Day. GPM followers are growing all over the world. Our latest member is from Germany. I wish all a great year, despite the Covid-19 virus issue. Remember family first.
Another year has passed and what a year, enough said.
Learning the Kimo Li way
Always look forward to the annual Kimo Li post. At least we know you are alive. Good health to you.
The best advice I can give a roulette player is "Know thy self," the main reason for failure is denial.
If you find yourself having a hard time leaving the table, you may be a compulsive player.
Have a great strategy, stop win, or stop loss.
What a great advice Mr. Li.
It is so so important to know when to quit the table, after a stop loss or stop win, that it makes the difference between failure or success.
A great strategy makes de difference but without discipline the best strategy can't avoid you being a loser. I used to be a compulsive player so I know what i talk about.
This is my piece of advice, those, serious players, who want to be inspired by wise words should read Kimo Li's " A collection of thoughts" in his homepage.
And remember a great strategy should be simple enough to name it by the acronime of KISS (Keep it simple stupid).
Im happy to know Mr. Li is well and sound.
Cheers,
Carlos.
I did it.
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What happens when someone questionable gives you their assurance?
Assertive
Self-confidence
Shrouded
Underneath
Refuted
Actions
Negated
Compensatory
Expectation
You know what you are.
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Intuitive play has it's place. It's called gambling.
I never quite understood the meaning of intuitive play until I watched a GPM player break the rules of engagement. His rationale, or lack there of, was to rely on a feeling that a particular trend will come in, based on his observations.
Needless to say, he lost and continues to lose. There is no hope for anyone who cannot follow instructions.
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A human being must stand by one's integrity, especially when confronted with compromise and betrayal.
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Perception of time is measured by the actions of one's daily movements.
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I cannot control anyone's actions. I can only control my own. I saw it coming. But, I put my faith in mankind and learned another lesson. Losing a friend because of money issues is a lot more difficult than losing 10,000.00 dollars playing roulette. It's easier to make 10,000.00 dollars.
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Ignorance, it is something I cannot control, something that presents itself without warning, something that may lead to misunderstanding, something that may give rise to forgiveness. Ignorance, without seeking understanding, is unforgivable.
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Adversity is merely a task.
I am reminded that life is a series of tasks, simple, redundant, and complex. I am at peace, knowing that one day, every task will come to an end.
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A person with a strong conviction will come to a crossroad. Ultimately, they must make a choice. The path one chooses leads only to another crossroad, such is life.
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The power of the subconscious mind provides the roulette professional the means to be very successful. A professional roulette player is able to see ball movement when the conscious mind knows every number position on the wheel head. The subconscious mind works interchangeably with the conscious mind to predict which group of numbers or number will have the optimum probability of coming in within a certain amount of spins.
Think about a time when you thought to yourself, "zero is coming in on the next spin." Zero shows up. That's the power of the subconscious mind. Study the map of the wheel head using GPM method. Your subconscious mind will produce a power beyond your imagination.
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What happened on previous roulette sessions is history. Focus on the session at hand, making sure the rules of engagement is perfectly executed. Stay within the rules of engagement. Know thyself.
To count on future sessions for a win is a foolish thought. Always stay in the mindset of the present.
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Preparation plays a key role when planning a trip to Las Vegas, just printed tracking cards, cutting and organizing them into two piles, hit and run cards, and grinding cards. Each card I touch holds a monetary value, what a concept. I don't need the tracking card. But, holding a card in my palm brings me joy, knowing it turns into money.
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There is something to be said about perseverance.
In Oct 2017, a person was interested in learning about GPM roulette. He had no Excel experience, limited finances, and personal issues. I told him he did not meet the requirements to take lesson one. Within a year, he learned Excel. The following year, he proposed a payment plan towards lesson one, making sporadic payments for a year until the 2,000.00 balance was paid.
It has been almost a two year journey. He completed lesson one on Aug 29, 2019. Congratulations.
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Most people don't think about their mortality until they either experience a medical episode or someone close has played out their final chapter. We live in a world where passwords drives our daily lives. Should anything suddenly happen where your life ends without notice, is there anyone you trust who can access all of your information.
I suggest you keep a password file of all the accounts on a thumb drive and designate someone (lawyer) as the executor of your estate or personal representative. The person in charge would have to know only one password, that is, the password to your Excel spreadsheet. Listed will be all of the accounts, including the passwords.
Examples include, phone, computer, bank accounts, social media accounts, and in the world of roulette, forum accounts.
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When I am not playing live roulette, I practice playing 50 spins every day. I usually reach my target within 8 spins after first tracking the first 8 spins. I would tell my self, this is the point I would stop. I reached my target. That's 16 spins total.
I have a balance of 34 spins left to play. So, I continue to play out the rest of my spins. Ultimately, two things happen. I experience a loss; or, I make more money. I pondered why do I do that? It dawned on me, I was looking for action, gambling. "Keep it in Check, my friends." Practice as though you are playing for real.
In a real live casino, once I hit my target. I stop. So now, I practice with only 16 spins, win or lose.
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A new team, XEPA, is about to hit the road. Welcome aboard.
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A life changing experience may mean something different to each individual, whether it's winning the lottery, a dream job, marriage, birth of a child, death of a friend or love one, etc. But, how can someone have a life changing experience by becoming a professional roulette player? One thing for certain, I can present a life changing experience to anyone who so desires.
Recently, a select group of roulette members decided to take a leap of faith to pursue the highest level of roulette thinking I had to offer, not knowing what was in stored for them. Each individual, in a matter of about two hours, experienced that moment and changed their lives forever, a leap of faith. For these individuals, it has been a long journey. Their investment of money, time, and education has finally come to fruition, masters of roulette.
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Each and everyone of us do not make the best choices in life, even though we know better. That's a reality, that's life.
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How useful are tracking cards, whether it's provided by the casino or created by the individual? What exactly are these players tracking? Is it as simple as tracking red and black, odd and even, high and low, dozens, columns, or something more sophisticated? Whatever the case may be tracking cards are highly useful.
In the live B & M, casinos do not care if the player is jotting down spins results, tracking characters, sections of the layout, or even groups that only make sense to the player. What the casino cares about is if the player is consistently making money? Only then do these tracking card players experience harassment from the pit boss, the polite statement, like, "Sir, while the casino allows the use tracking cards, we reserve the right not to take action from you at this time." In other words, we don't want your business. So, what use is it to play live if you cannot use tracking cards.
There are other options. The player can use tracking cards at airball wheels with touch screen betting functions, live wheel with touch screen or RNG machines, highly effective use of tracking cards, no one to hassle you, until you start winning consistently again. Once again, you may be subjected to the refusal of patronage syndrome.
So now what? Well, you do everything in your head. Even that does not guarantee full patronage privileges. You see, the casino can refuse you patronage for any reason, the way you dress, the way you speak, the way you walk, practically anything. They don't have to disclose the reason. If you do not comply, you will be issued a no trespassing warning. Should you come back and trespass, you will be arrested and spend some time in prison.
So, how useful are tracking cards? Better question, why would anyone play roulette?
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You have been studying roulette for many years now, 5, 10, 20, and some even 30 years plus. I'm in category of 30 plus years. I realized that it does not matter how long one has been studying roulette. What matters is the information retained from all that studying. I know I can teach someone, from beginning to end, 30 days, all three lessons, information which took many years to develop.
My only wish is that I had learned from someone who had already figured out the Holy Grail 30 years ago; Why?, so I could reap the benefits of someone else's hard work, at a worthy price, instead of racking my brains, falling prey to pitfalls, and wasting precious time. Do the math.
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When you have two strong minded people, it's often difficult to give advice to one another. You observe the other person making decisions, knowing that the outcome will be bad. You cannot say anything because it will only add fuel to the fire. So, you let the other person find out the hard way. Lesson learned.
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I am reminded how being on the road can feel, airline travel, rental car, the constant movement from casino to casino, sleeping on different beds, pillows, different showers, soaps, and other amenities. The worst is constant sights, sounds, and smells. One thing I cannot complain about is the food, pure heaven.
If a player frequents a casino everyday, same time, same routine, it can get rather boring. But I a reminded that I could be stuck in an office 40 plus hours a week, making a modest wage, something I can make in a few minutes on one session on the roulette table. So I feel grateful that I have a skill that allows me to enjoy the simple things in life. Be humble my friends.
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Ever feel like you are on an island in the middle of the ocean with no human in sight. You have all this knowledge and no one to share what's on your mind. Don't worry. There is a group of players who speak the same language, how nice, peace of mind.
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Visualization, such an integral part of playing roulette professionally, manifests success through the virtual reality of one's mind. Without it, the fluidity of execution will fluctuate and may lead to mental distress, questioning one's reason for playing roulette.
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Playing roulette professionally is a lifestyle, like living in the jungle, surrounded by the spoils of the hunt. So, if you have hunting instincts and enjoy a solitary environment, playing roulette professionally may be a great fit.
On the other hand, if you like interacting with people, become part of an international group of roulette professionals, lesson two graduates, who share the same information, speak freely, exchange ideas, bond as roulette professionals, and become lifetime friends.
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There is no reason to lie. "Action speaks louder than words."
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Self-taught, what an interesting concept. What does it really mean? How does one teaches oneself? Does a person read and study someone else's work and use their methods? Or, does an individual invent or discover a way to beat roulette, thereby creating an original idea. Is this considered self-taught? No, it is innovation.
Welcome to my world.
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There is something to be said about protecting your bankroll. In live play, over confidence in a strategy may cause devastating results. A player may have 6,000.00 as a bankroll, sounds reasonable enough, except when the player decides to risk 3,000.00 in one session and loses. He knows during practice the strategy does not lose two session in a row.
Does he risk the other 3,000.00 on the following session? If you have been in this situation, stop playing roulette immediately. Rule number one, never risk 50 percent of your bankroll in one session. Rule number two, have a bankroll that can sustain 20 sessions.
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The buy-in should total the amount you need to execute your strategy, which is also the amount of your stop-loss. If it takes 18 units to execute your strategy, then only buy, maximum, 20 units. This is a crucial point. I see players buy-in 100 units all the time. Their strategy requires only 18 units to play.
Unfortunately, many players do not realize that having a lot of chips in front of them may encourage them to play more and eventually lose all of their buy-in, often wondering what went wrong and, later realizing they got off their game plan.
Why do you think casinos payout with roulette chips instead of cash chips? A huge stack, psychologically, gives the player a false sense confidence.
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Magic happens when you're not looking. The idea just pops into your head.
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The saga continues... We turn the page and a new chapter begins. So, savor the last chapter. The ending will give reason to pause, and reflect on how one would do it differently.
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Without getting into details, there are three lessons, 1, 2, and 3. If you look at lessons from a university perspective, lesson one is the Bachelor's level, lesson two is the Masters level and lesson three is the Doctoral level; or the undergraduate, the graduate, and the professional.
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I am disturbed by the amount of people who play live roulette at casinos and lose. I am equally disturbed by a comment made by a casino host. He said, "Roulette is a game where the player is expected to lose. So, determine the amount you are willing to lose and enjoy the game."
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“Education is not the learning of facts, but training the mind to think.†-Albert Einstein
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The best decision made is when a person is on the fence.
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Perhaps the most scariest part of playing roulette, or any form of gambling, is losing. Like anything else, arm yourself with knowledge, not just knowledge, but "applied" knowledge. The fear will dissipate. Yes, it will go away.
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There is something to be said about specialization. It is not necessarily the best approach, because focusing on only one strategy may require waiting for long periods of time, limiting betting opportunities, especially when the player who is playing live has to bet every spin.
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The idea of someone buying a roulette system brings a negative connotation to one's mind, and quickly deem it unworthy of consideration. Why is that? Buying a roulette system brings fear to players' minds because they do not want to be taken advantage by someone. Sadly, when a real opportunity presents itself, a person may turn down a chance of a lifetime. Courage will overcome fear; and doors will open. All one has to do, is knock.
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A good treasure hunter knows how to follow leads and uncover riches, perhaps the Goose that laid the Golden Egg. The secret lays in plain sight. "Seek and you shall find."
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Hard work + Consistency = Profit
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The dreadful draw down, an inevitable occurrence, it may strike at the beginning, the middle, or the end of a session. How a roulette player deals that kind of adversity separates the professional from the amateur. The consistent actions taken by a roulette player to offset the unavoidable drawn down is the hallmark of a professional roulette player.
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The positive aspect of mentoring is giving someone the opportunity to gain experience without having to go through the pitfalls of pursuing the unknown.
Contention only exists when an individual tries to control how a person should behave based on their own worldview or mindset. Therefore, we can eliminate conflicts by understanding that the only thing one can control is their own actions.
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I learned at an early age the value of learning from someone who I believe to be a mentor. My dad died when I was six years old. So I became very keen in spotting the experts who can guide me in my life, men who knew how to fish, work on cars, fight, etc. In my young adult life, I hired a golf pro to improve my golf game, best decision ever.
Finding a mentor is one thing; becoming one, leads to a different path. I understood that in order to be successful, I had to slay my own dragons, pave my own way, and create my own journey. I chose to become a professional gambler. My mother said to me, "If you are going to be a criminal, be the best." What? Her wisdom resonated. So, I am a professional roulette player.
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What is the function of a roulette forum? It is a place where like minded roulette players gather to talk about the common knowledge of roulette. The reality of this kind of forum does not work because, when it comes to proprietary knowledge, most are not willing to share. Why is that? Take the elements that form a small town community, grocer, hardware store, ice cream shop, restaurant, gas station, barber, baker, to name a few, each contribute to the function of the community.
A roulette community does not function that way. Instead, if a roulette player has a strategy that works really well, they are "expected" to share freely, or else they are chastised and called all kinds of names, liars, scammers, etc.
In a town community, people pay for goods and services in order to function in life. Why should the baker share a secret recipe passed down from generations? Should the grocer give free goods to the entire community? Here lies the problem with roulette forum members, they want something for nothing.
Most forums have a policy where a player is able to solicit their goods and services, "Systems, Product, and Services for sale." The merchants are quickly scrutinized, and in most cases, endure bullying and abuse from the roulette community. Other places forbid the solicitation of goods and services regarding roulette altogether.
Word of mouth by a community shows the essence of communication. It has been my experience that when I decide to pay a premium price for a cherry turnover baked pie, it's because I heard about it through word of mouth, to see what the rave is all about; that is what a community is about, acknowledging the worth of our baker.
There is no point in having a roulette forum where only common knowledge is shared and goods and services are not welcomed. A close society is a dead society.
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Catch 22, "Damn if I do and damn if I don't," if I post on roulette forums that I have a system that will help the roulette players win an average of 100.00 dollars a day, I am met with skepticism, criticism, and disbelief. With good reason, most players on these forums do not have a winning method. By winning, I mean something that a player will show a substantial profit at the end of the month. "Prove it," they would say.
So now, if I were to post my winning method of any forum, players would realize that I have something and they would benefit from my knowledge. 'Thank you very much," they would say, "you were right". Now they can go on their merry way and create wealth for themselves.
If I don't "prove it" publicly, I am regarded as a scammer. If I do "prove it" publicly, I would be an idiot. The solution, keep it private to those who are willing to venture into the unknown.
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There are many reasons why an individual chooses roulette as a potential way of making money. Stories on the internet describe experiences of people having good fortune. On the other hand, there are horror stories of people losing their life's savings and going deep into credit debt, only a few people understand the purpose of playing roulette.
The most important thing that a serious roulette player is searching for is the ability to make profits on a daily basis with no fear of losing. Consistency, is the strategy consistent?
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In 2005, the Roulette Formula - How to Predict the Exact Number is released. The following year, The European Roulette Book hits the market. The initial reaction divided the roulette community. There has been many debates since it's introduction. The Global Pie Method has stood the test of time. My publisher first stated to me that the shelf life of any gambling book is about ten years. These two books are still on the market and thriving.
A school was created to teach the concepts of the book. More significantly, strategies were taught so the average roulette player is able to profit from roulette on a daily basis. Today, there is a huge amount of graduates all over the world benefiting from their education. They live in Switzerland, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Australia, United Kingdom, Monaco, Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Russia, Portugal, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, South Africa, India, Canada, and of course, the United States of America, states like Hawaii, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, New Jersey, Chicago, Georgia, Oregon, and Alaska.
Each country have multiple members. Singapore has the most members followed by United States of America, United Kingdom, and Australia. Thirteen years later we are thriving. Interested, come and be a part of our family. Please note, not all qualify.
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What most roulette players fail to realize is that having a winning strategy does not mean it is easy to make money. The player actually have to work. It is a grind. It requires a lot of patience, analyzing, and executing the strategy. It's mentally taxing on the brain. In some cases, it harder than working 9 to 5.
On the upside, it's sure beats working for some else.
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The joy in life is the appreciation for food, not just any food, but food that touches one's soul, like mango sticky rice. There is a down side to roulette. It's boring. So, I must play roulette to win money, so I can eat. It's a vicious cycle.
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Recently, I realized how important my time is to me. I am going to make use of my time more effectively and enjoy life, not to mention, do what I do best, that is, play roulette.
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It's amazing to watch someone, who just completed a lesson, immediately go into profit. It's fun to watch. They start with the dollar level to test their newly found skill. After three days of playing live, the player is 184.00 dollars in profit. The player becomes comfortable. So now, they contemplate increasing their betting amount to the two dollar level. The strategy is still the same and the profit amount doubles.
In time, they will accumulate enough profit to be at the twenty five dollar level, which if you think about it, the 184.00, one dollar level, translates to 4,600.00 at the twenty five dollar level for three days, three sessions of twenty minutes, sixty minutes total; that's 4,600.00 per hour, crazy.
Realistically, at the twenty five dollar level, this is achieved by playing three sessions a day, twenty minutes per session. In case you are wondering, it is a hit and run betting tactic. There is a conservative approach, more playing time at the table to achieve the same amount. Some players, who like the action, prefer this style of play.
Whatever the choice of poison, the job gets done.
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Just added three more GPM players to the list of domestic and international group of players, Arkansas (USA), Singapore, and Switzerland, congratulations. Most, if not all, describe their experience with two words, "amazing or phenomenal." I don't know about that. To me, it's just another day in paradise, shout out to the GPM players in Hawaii, visiting soon.
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One of the GPM players has brought to my attention about the importance of a focused mind. He said his attention span deteriorates quickly, so he needs to use a strategy that has a high hit rate before his brain turns into mush.
When the session does not go as planned and immediately goes into a draw down, short of the stop loss, he is faced with a long battle towards recovery and achieving the stop win target. The brain and one's patience will determine if the player is successful. All to often, the amateur players go into tired mode and make the fatal mistake of pushing a large bet to recover. More often than not, the players lose that battle.
Know your threshold for being tired. Call it a day.
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The key to beating airball roulette is identifying and classifying algorithms generated by the airball machine. Once the data mining is complete, the next step is to match the strategy with the algorithms being produced.
On a basic level, if the airball machine is producing streaks of red or black, meaning hitting seven or more times in a row, then the strategy to bet on a trend until it misses would be the appropriate choice. I have seen players bet on black while a streak of red is running, because they think black is "due," only to lose their money because red came in an additional fives times before black finally showed up.
There are complex algorithms which can be identified and exploited by a GPM player, a skill set necessary for any roulette player. Without it, it's just a guessing game.
Live roulette produces a different kind of algorithms. It too can be identified and exploited by a GPM player. The pattern will dictate which strategy to use.
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In this business, a player has to pay their dues by investing, studying, and learning. Imagine, you become a successful roulette player. Would you go to a public roulette forum and say you are winning?
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There is no greater feeling than knowing GPM players can go into any casino and make their set quota for the day. The only pitfall I can foresee is when greed sets in. We all know that we either win big or lose big. Slow and steady will always prevail.
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"Living the Dream." What does that mean? For most, it's working full time and supplementing the income by playing on the weekends or after work, for a few playing a few hours everyday, for others playing full time, 8 hours a day. What's your dream?
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Failure is inevitable. Someone who does not take responsibility for their actions and tries to blame someone else for their mistakes will always lose. The player who takes responsibility, identifies their mistakes, and take corrective action, will not make the same mistake.
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What kind of person would risk all or part of their finances in hopes of turning a profit, a person who understands business. If you do not approach roulette like a business, you are simply a recreational player.
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People inquire about GPM all the time. They say they have read my books, scanned the internet, and read several posts on various forums. Many have interest in private lessons. Before that can happen, certain criteria has to be met. I ask questions. I receive answers. Once they are qualified, I send them what the lesson would entail, including the cost, then silence.
I just added this behavior to my list, uncouth.
If you are the type of person who:
- want something for nothing
- looking for a get rich quickly scheme
- lack self-discipline, integrity, and respect
- is a compulsive gambler
- desperate for money
- self-absorbed, egotistical
- have major leaks in your life (Alcohol, drugs, lazy, to name a few)
-uncouth
GPM is not for you.
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I learned early in my life. Fortune is made with decisive action. The door opened.
I was a bartender in my youth in Hawaii. A guy in a suit walks in the bar, orders a shot and a beer. He tells me he's from Florida. He's celebrating because he just closed a deal selling an exclusive franchise. "Tell me about it," I said. A long story short, I said "I'll buy one." He said, "Bullshit, if you purchase a franchise, I will put you up at my home for thirty days while you learn the business. But, you have to buy your own airline tickets." I said, "I'm not bullshitting." He said, "Man, you got some balls." The next day, I was in Florida. I bought a franchise.
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I read on a forum today that someone was offering 30% of their winnings for life if someone would give him a strategy that wins, an offer made in 2017 and now again in 2018. Several years ago, I accepted an offer of 10% profit of winnings for life. I told him he was better off paying 2,000.00 for the strategy because in the first month, he would have made his 2,000.00 back and would not have to pay for the rest of his life.
He insisted in paying 10% for life because he felt anyone giving him a strategy that will win deserves to be compensated. So, I said okay, if that's how you feel. The player learned my strategy. He did pay 2,000.00, 10% of his first month's profits. Then, he stopped paying the 10% for life. I mean it was his idea. I guess he realized my offer of 2,000.00 was good enough, which is fine by me. But now, what was lost is not the 10% for life, it's the friendship.
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Looking for a mentor in roulette is like making a bet on the roulette table. The interested seekers scan the internet and find a group of potential candidates. They have to decide which one to choose. They make a decision and find out that it's not what they expected, a losing bet. Then they try another mentor, another losing bet. They find themselves in a "negative expectation." At this point, it's time to decide whether to pursue more learning opportunities, knowing that this "bet" may not payoff, growing deeper into debt.
But, one will never know the outcome until you place that bet. It's that time, "no more bets."
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Fear of the unknown, perhaps a primordial defense mechanism ingrained in the mind of all living things, this is probably why the majority of people find discomfort when confronted with something they do not understand, something different. So most people turn to the only thing they know by claiming, "that's impossible," a defense mechanism that tells the brain to discount the idea and squelch any fears that may be harboring in their mind.
Some people are so scared that they defend their assertion by citing scientific data, they learned through formal education. Then, there are the brave few, with open minds, who venture into realm of uncertainty, hoping to solve some of life's mysteries.
Most gambling is not a social endeavor. It is a solitary journey that relies on the individual's skills to survive, harnessing new ones along the way. So you see, the sheep mentality is necessary for the wolf to thrive. The wolf enters a casino to take a portion of what the sheep had left behind.
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Just when you think you know what you are doing, something else get thrown into the mix, always something.
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Probability is a tool used to calculate the player's chances of winning.
Recently I was playing Texas holdem poker. I had pocket Aces. I was on the cut-off, next to the dealer button. The flop came 10d 10c 5h. There were two other players in the hand, small blind and big blind. Both players checked. I bet. Both players called. I bet because I want to see if any of these two players had a ten. So, now in my mind, my pockets aces are no good.
The turn was the 3h. Both players check again. I bet again, knowing that a raise may be coming if any of the players have a 10. The small blind called. The other player folded. Now, I know that the small blind had the 10 because he wanted the other player to call the hand. On the river, I had only two outs. The probability of an Ace hitting the river is very slim. I should have folded on the turn because the small blind was trapping me with his trip tens.
The river came an ace, giving me aces full of tens. The only hand that can beat me is if the small blind has pocket tens, giving him quads, four tens. If that's the case, I would have experienced a bad beat jackpot worth 23,000.00. So either way, if he has only 3 tens or 4 tens, I win. I hope he had 4 tens.
He bets out. I raised. He re-raised. I re-raised. He re-raised. I re-raised. He paused, thought, and just called. He finally realized that I could have pocket aces. In his mind, he was calculating the odds of me having the pocket aces. What I did not know is that he held a 10 and an Ace. Before the river card, I had only one out, the case ace. The probability of the last ace hitting the river was definitely against me and I should have folded when I realized someone could have a 10 on the flop. Nevertheless, I won that hand and took down a huge pot.
Defying probability can give a player a false sense of winning. I was stupid to be in the hand, because, if I continue to defy the odds in situations like that, in the long run, I would eventually lose my bankroll.
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"Understand it is possible to lose some or all of the money you wager at any gambling establishment, legal or otherwise." Like in all business investments, there are risks involved, roulette is no different. As stated previously below, "the right strategy and betting approach" will produce winning results.
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The GPM roulette player focuses on the right strategy and betting approach, not the need to make money. Why?
Money comes as a result of consistent optimal decisions.
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I see things and believe people see the same things as I do, only to be told by my friends and family that the way I think is not normal. They think I am a genius. I am not. What is normal?
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The urge to figure something out is so great that it consumes my mind 24/7. I have conquered roulette, now what? Well, wood working offers that distraction, channeling the passion for solving challenges. The end product becomes an expression of one's creativity and satisfies that craving of figuring something out. What's your poison?
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In American greyhound racing, there are 28 quinella betting combinations in an eight dog race, dogs that come in first and second place, the order does not matter. Of the 28 combinations, I am only interested in 18, 27, 36, 45, each quinella add up to the sum of nine. 1+8, 2+7, 3+6, 4+5, an idea that came to my attention when betting the greyhounds for the first time in Plainfield, Connecticut, winter of 1985.
If one studies greyhound statistics results daily , the person would notice that these quinella combinations come in at least once everyday in a 13 race event, occasionally these combinations may miss. But for the most part, the quinella combinations consistently show up daily .
The dilemma is the bettor does not know which race. I have solved this dilemma many years ago using a sophisticated tracking method. However, in it's simplistic concept, if I know it's coming in at least once a night, then I would wait for the first eight races to run. If the quinella combinations do not come in, then I will proceed to bet the next four races.
I did this in December of 1986 at Saint Petersburg, Florida to test my theory . In the 9th race, I placed fifty dollars on each quinella, 18 27 36 45, a cost of 200.00. That means I had 25 bets, each bet cost 2.00. The quinella combination 45 came in and paid 225.00 per 2.00 bet. I made 5,625.00, minus 200.00, the cost of the bets, such a simple concept.
The quinella combination provides an adrenaline rush because no matter what dog is leading, say number 4, the only greyhound one would be concerned with is the 5 dog. During the same race, if the 3 dog takes over the lead, then the focus changes to the 6 dog, what a rush.
This is the foundation of roulette.
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Risk intelligence, you either have it or you don't. It's innate, most successful business people have it.
Most, if not all, professional risk takers have it. Do you?
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The following are the components to successfully execute the Kimo Li Way of playing.
Learn the Global Pies.
Learn the Global Stars.
Learn the Roulette Layout, even chances, dozens, columns, streets, double streets, corners, splits, etc.
The concept is simple. Just like various hand motions exhibited in the movie, "The Karate Kid," there is a parallel correlation between learning each karate hand motion and learning each piece of the Global Pie Method concept. The Global pies and stars can be put together to in a manner of combinations to form strategies that can defeat the game of roulette, The Kimo Li Way.
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It's always a pleasure to hear of someone's success. More importantly, it's always a pleasure to hear of someone's success when they have been struggling finding their way, a light comes on.
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I did the right thing. A young family member wanted to learn how to play roulette. I said no. There were conditions. Go to school, establish a career, and contribute to society. Six years pass, he did that. So, I just finished teaching him. "Thanks uncle," he says, as he gives me a great big hug, "you know, Vegas baby."
He's still annoyed because I made him go through the "normal expectation" of life's journey. I don't care. I did the right thing.
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In the end, all is but a dream. It does not matter with regards to the accumulation of things and wealth. What matters does not matter, only present thoughts of being. Even then, it will not matter, such is enlightenment.
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How much would you pay for an college education, a house, a vehicle, clothes, etc.?
What do you think the Holy Grail of roulette is worth?, priceless one would think. Think again, it may be worth less than you think, at best, the price of a college education.
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A QUOTE FROM NAPOLEON HILL, "THINK AND GROW RICH."
"THREE FEET FROM GOLD.
One of the most common causes of failure is the habit of quitting when one is overtaken by temporary defeat. Every person is guilty of this mistake at one time or another. An uncle of R. U. Darby was caught by the “gold fever†in the goldrush days, and went west to DIG AND GROW RICH. He had never heard that more gold has been mined from the brains of men than has ever been taken from the earth. He staked a claim and went to work with pick and shovel. The going was hard, but his lust for gold was definite.
After weeks of labor, he was rewarded by the discovery of the shining ore. He needed machinery to bring the ore to the surface. Quietly, he covered up the mine, retraced his footsteps to his home in Williamsburg, Maryland, told his relatives and a few neighbors of the “strike.†They got together money for the needed machinery, had it shipped. The uncle and Darby went back to work the mine.
The first car of ore was mined, and shipped to a smelter. The returns proved they had one of the richest mines in Colorado! A few more cars of that ore would clear the debts. Then would come the big killing in profits.
Down went the drills! Up went the hopes of Darby and Uncle! Then something happened! The vein of gold ore disappeared! They had come to the end of the rainbow, and the pot of gold was no longer there! They drilled on, desperately trying to pick up the vein again-all to no avail.
Finally, they decided to QUIT. They sold the machinery to a junk man for a few hundred dollars, and took the train back home. Some “junk†men are dumb, but not this one! He called in a mining engineer to look at the mine and do a little calculating. The engineer advised that the project had failed, because the owners were not familiar with “fault lines.†His calculations showed that the vein would be found JUST THREE FEET FROM WHERE THE DARBYS HAD STOPPED DRILLING! That is exactly where it was found!
The “Junk†man took millions of dollars in ore from the mine, because he knew enough to seek expert counsel before giving up..."
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Desire, may all your wishes come true. I wish everyone good health.
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I am reminded that roulette is not about chances. It is about desire, expectations, and discipline. It's about being a professional. Bottom line, it's about health, wealth, family, friends, and charity.
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Let me know and I will teach you.
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Doctors practice their craft on live patients. They make a diagnosis and treat your ailments with medicine, only to find out the diagnosis was wrong. The drug the patient was taking has terrible side effects. So now, you still have your ailment, compounded with drug side effects that should have not happen in the first place. So, now they send you to a referral specialist, someone who kicks back a referral fee. Same thing happens, they diagnose the issue and prescribe more drugs. It's not working. So, now they try something different. So that's why they call it a practice.
Roulette, the player is constantly practicing because there are no definitive strategy that applies to every situation. However, there are multiple strategies that apply to pertinent situations. The roulette player does not want to be in the position of a doctor, where there are constantly trying to figure out what's wrong. In roulette, the strategy used must be right the first time during live play or else the player is considered practicing, using live money. Practice, therefore, is only effective when not playing live.
Don't be a doctor. Be an expert.
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Happy father's day, on my way to the casino.
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Prepare yourself.
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Shortcuts are created by beginners as they become experienced. Experienced players do not use shortcuts. Instead, they rely on strategy choice, relevant betting structure, and execution.
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When you master the game of roulette, the only question left to ask is, what do I feel like eating right now?
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Sometimes, it's good to set aside roulette and focus on other things in life. I know how difficult it is to stop thinking about roulette, especially when you see things differently and your mind cannot shut it down, a case of passion or obsession. What's the difference?
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To me, it does not matter what strategy I play, as long as I win. Should I lose, it does not matter either, because I will win more than I would lose.
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No wheel is safe from a GPM player. Although the number sequences on the American and European roulette differ, the principles of the Global Pie Method remains the same.
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Flat bet verses progressions, a dilemma that most roulette players contemplate. Flat bet should be the primary objective. Progressions, when used strategically, can be a powerful tool. But be careful, using progressions is an art form. Only those who practice the principles of progressions should attempt in real play because progressions is notorious for destroying bankrolls, in a some cases, lives.
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"Everyone loves a winner. But when you lose, you lose alone."
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When reality comes knocking on your door, only then, you will find clarity in your life.
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Control is a double edge sword. Fortunately, we control our own actions. So, refrain the urge to control others.
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If you are playing roulette because you are having fun, I suggest you keep your day job.
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Do not accumulate chips in your pocket throughout the day. Cash in your winning chips immediately following a session, especially when you win more than three thousand dollars. I say this because once I tried to cash in 20,000.00 in chips at the Bellagio in Las Vegas. The cashier asked me which table did I win the 20,000.00.
I told her from different tables throughout the day, morning until 11pm. She said sorry, if you cannot tell us where you won the money, we will not cash your chips. What? Apparently it has to do with the accounting of in and out of money from each table, they say. It's more like, did I steal these chips and now trying to cash in. I had to find several pit bosses that tracked my play in the morning, noon, and night to verify my play. I finally found a pit boss that authorized the cashier to cash my chips.
Word of wisdom, note the pit boss's name, table number, and how much you won, especially when you win big, 3,000.00 plus during a session. You can also use this information when preparing your taxes.
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It's a shame to see recreational roulette players lose their money. They call it entertainment. What's more disturbing is to see players with some kind of strategy or method lose their entire bank, not because of the strategy, but not having the skill sets to manage their money, emotions, or leaks.
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It behooves me to think that if someone has already figured it out, why try to "re invent the wheel."
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Stacks and stacks of tracking cards, filled with tick marks, circles, X es, dots, whatever the preference, scattered all over your desk, tell the story of a journey only a GPM player can relate. Trying to find the right combination of pens, felt, ball point, pencil, black, red, green, becomes a greater task than the strategy of choice because the strategy is sound.
The reward comes when the hours practice is put to the test, live play. It's a masterpiece, the color of green.
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A word of CAUTION, there are videos on YouTube that claim to be Kimo Li's method or How to Win using Kimo Li's principles. I have never made any videos explaining my methods. These videos are "Fake News, or rather, Fake Videos."
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A poker player on my left kept on raising me every time I initiated a bet. The pot had been raised and re-raised by two other players. My instinct told me that these players were in collusion. I had flopped a monster hand, four tens. If I checked, I know they going to think I have a monster hand. So, I bet out and they raised and re-raised.
In the end, I won a huge pot. It was my instinct that provided me with the right play. In roulette, instinct also plays a role. It's knowing what strategy to play after a few spins pass.
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Sophistication is manifested in the flow of simplicity and accuracy.
Simplicity is the organization of complex thought.
Accuracy is the result of simplicity.
"Your tracking methods and the spreadsheets are incredible, so sophisticated..." GPM player.
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If you think about it, nothing matters. If you give it a second thought, it still doesn't matter.
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Everyone has an angel, guiding us, encouraging us, and sometimes saving us. The angel is protecting us from ourselves for we are responsible for creating our own destiny. Choose wisely.
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Predictions
There is a direct correlation between predictability of numbers and the map of numbers on the roulette wheel head. How can a roulette player come close to accurate predictions? Simple, know the series and landscape of the roulette wheel. Only then, you will know how to produce accurate predictions. The same principle holds true for the numbers on the layout.
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Amateur - "At least we had fun."
Professional - "Next."
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Murphy's law: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
Murphy's law usually happens right after a roulette player first learns a new strategy and tries to play with real money. This happens to all GPM roulette players. You have 20 to 30 seconds to place a bet. So, the player places the bets, only to find out they had missed one number, "No more bets." Your missed number comes in, good old Murphy. Now is the time for the player to leave.
Oh no, the voice in the player's head says, I got to make that up. "Discipline has left the building." So, in good old fashion form, Murphy decides to show up again in the form of a "tilted" player. So, the player goes off the rules of engagement and increases the amount of bets on the next set of numbers. Yep, Murphy shows no mercy. None of the player's number hit.
Just remember, when an error happens, it means you were not as prepared as you think. Stop and walk away. Or else, Murphy will continue to show it's ugly face.
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What is the optimum numbers to bet, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, or more?
It does not matter, as long as the roulette player does not bet more than 18 numbers. What matters is choosing the ideal strategy, following the rules of engagement, and maintaining a low profile.
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Let us assume the Holy Grail of roulette does exist, enough said.
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Having A Game Plan
In order to become a successful roulette player, one must have a game plan. There are so many strategy options to use, literally thousands. How does one differentiate from using one strategy over another? That is perhaps the most difficult decision to make when the player does not have a plan, which brings us to the idea of specialization.
There is no question that the most successful GPM player focuses on one or two strategies at a time, even though they are armed with thousands of strategies. They practice and exercise the mental synapses of their brain that triggers tracking strategies and commit it to memory, until it becomes second nature. They execute their plan and stick to the rules of engagement, whether they reach their win goal or stop loss.
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When you reach the point of boredom while playing roulette, that's when you know you are in it for the money.
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The art of playing roulette. If you think of roulette like painting a picture by numbers, you will wind up with a self portrait of yourself, specifically designed by the casino for you to lose. If you paint from the point of view of the Global Pie Method, you would have created a winning master piece, by understanding the nature of number streams, and how trends develop from the ebbs and tides of random numbers.
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IN THE ZONE
In the zone, what does that mean to a GPM roulette player? It means that the player can look at the randomness flow of numbers coming out as a string of spins after spins and is able to detect the flow of characters being generated, apply to certain strategies, and act accordingly.
I am sure that most uninformed players have experienced winning one hit after another, without knowing why. They are just in the zone. A GPM player knows when and why this phenomenon occurs and takes advantage.
A beginner will notice the strategies offered by the casino, your typical red, black, odd, even, 1-18, 19-36, dozens, and columns. What they would see, whether consciously or subconsciously, for example, red has come in many times and also notice that it's coming in the 2nd dozen.
So, now they place their chips on the 2nd dozen. A novice who has developed some kind of strategy would place straight up chips on numbers 14, 16, 18, 19, 21, and 23, all red in the second dozen.
A GPM player would see that these red numbers belong to sections 4 and 6 on the American wheel, choose to play only the red numbers in section six, 18, 19, 21 and add an extra chip on number 18 because even, low, 3rd column numbers are also running.
What makes an individual say to themselves, "I think red is about to take a run." Ask yourself. Are you in the zone?
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It's very important to reflect on a win. "Wow, that was easy." Why? Winning is the result of doing the right things at the right time, sticking to the discipline that you have practiced for many hours.
Losing, on the hand, comes when the rules of engagement is compromised. Did you stop, for example, at your prescribed stop loss?, which by the way would have prevented a major disaster. There will be session losses. But, it will be "contained" to a minimum, instead of losing you entire bank.
So, winning is tied to discipline. Losing, unfortunately, is associated with having a leak, tired, insufficient bankroll, scared money, drinking, drugs, compulsive behavior, to name a few. I believe we create our own Good Luck. We, also, bring upon ourselves Bad Luck. Continue to be disciplined and eliminate the leaks.
In other words, "Keep it in check." KIIC
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My faith in mankind has been validated today. Thank you. I am humbled and honored to be part of a group of GPM roulette players around the world. These professional roulette players are not just gamblers, they hold themselves to a higher standard and integrity.
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Anyone who plays 24 numbers is an idiot.
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No Fear is what separates the professionals from the amateurs.
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Roulette inspiration comes in many forms. Sometimes if look and stare at something long enough, the answer becomes clear. Unfortunately for some, fruition may never arrive. But as long as you believe, the journey never ends.
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When other forms of roulette started to emerge, I was a strong advocate of not playing RNG or airball roulette machines. Presently, it is much easier to win on an airball machine than it is to win on live tables. What led to this conclusion? Strategy research and development to counter the maximum bet of 35.00 per spin, have produced amazing results, just another break through in the war against the casino.
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If you want to avoid someone, loan them 20.00.
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In the movie, The Medicine Man, a compound used to produce a cure for a disease is found in a rare ant, not the flower that hosts the ants. Anyone can create a Matrix. It is not the Matrix that holds the secret to the Holy Grail, but the numbers within the Matrix that offers the Holy Grail.
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The number seven, there is a reason why seven is a lucky number. Below is a quote from a Google search.
"What does the number 7 mean?
The number 7 is the seeker, the thinker, the searcher of Truth (notice the capital 'T'). The 7 doesn't take anything at face value -- it is always trying to understand the underlying, hidden truths. The 7 knows that nothing is exactly as it seems and that reality is often hidden behind illusions."
Magic can be found in the number 7, advanced GPM students know it's power.
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Roulette cannot be beaten by pure mathematics. Ask the math fanatics. Try to prove them wrong. They will torture you with proven facts. Instead, roulette can be conquered by the world of probability, data analytics, and significant statistics. It's not a pure science, not by a long shot. However, the approach will surprisingly produce consistent results, much like today's weather predictions: probability, data analytics, and significant statistics.
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It appears that most players are trying to defeat random by organizing numbers, systems, and methods. Here's a thought. Why not conquer random by being random, in an organized manner, making random no longer random.
What? You say, exactly. Figure that out and you will hold the key.
The secret to understanding roulette is in nature. I once pondered how coral survived in the ocean. How did they eat? I knew what they ate (plankton). What was their strategy to capture a moving target?
Was the movement of plankton random? Or was there a pattern of movement?
Are past spins relevant? If so, how do you use that information? If not, is there a way to "contain" random?
Nature holds the secret to both mindsets. The strategies are governed by nature. I say this to give the roulette player something to think about.
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I wanted to talk about the importance of knowing all of the numbers on the wheel. This notion is directed towards people who do not value this skill.
I see the wheel as a treasure map. Without it, I would be wandering aimlessly. Imagine you are on a row boat on the ocean, just floating. You have no goals, just going with the tide. Hopefully, you will find land before the elements kill you.
If you have a goal in mind, possess a map, and enough provisions to get there, chances are you will succeed. Memorizing the numbers on the wheel will open your vision to see how the ball is moving and what numbers the ball is favoring, not only in sections, but in intervals.
Once you have that roulette map, all you have to do is figure out what direction you will take to reach your destination.
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Mathematically, European wheel has a lesser house edge. If you add a second zero to the European wheel, then the house edge is equal to the American wheel.
Although it is easier to memorize the American wheel, because of how the numbers are arranged on the wheel, the European wheel has the same identical strategies as the American wheel, although the numbers are arranged differently on the wheel.
When the roulette player learns the multiple aspects of each roulette wheel, they would be able to understand the importance of each number placement.
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I have read the many debates about using past spins as a means to predict future spins, which is a natural human behavior. The wheel has no memory. So, the debate continues.
There is an approach which does not use past spins, something that has never been posted, quite frankly, will never be posted. But it is something for which to ponder while studying principles of....
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I practice my roulette skills everyday, 50 spins. I analyze every angle. This helps me to keep sharp and constantly looking for new strategies. Keep in mind, when I practice, I pretend I am at the casino, with an actual layout and chips. I read 12 numbers ascending from the bottom to the top, just like the tote boards in the casino. I have loud music in the background to assimilate the casino, because my brain needs to feel comfortable in that kind of environment. It's a necessary routine if you want to be on top of your game. Walking is an essential part of practicing. Why?, because a roulette gambler will be moving from one casino to another. In other words, you have to exercise.
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The live casinos require you to bet every spin. If you miss one or two spins, depending on what type of player you are, meaning beginner, above average or "frequent," a beginner will probably not get a reaction from the dealer. Above average will get a warning. A frequent (Pro) will be told he MUST bet every spin. Yes, the casino can tell what type of player you are.
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There is no way that the casinos will ever shut down roulette tables. The majority of the players play by the rules that the game has to offer. Some may win, some may lose, but the casino will, in time, win by the house advantage.
Casinos create a following of losers by psychological warfare. Reward membership is their weapon. The more action you give the more perks you get, reward credits, tier status, free rooms, free play, free shows, free limo, etc.
Here's how the psychology works. When you win, it's a great feeling. You go home feeling great, money won and free everything. Now, they offer you more stuff and you go back. This time you lose money. You justify your loss by saying that you had all that free stuff, rooms, buffet, limo, shows. Psychologically, you say to yourself, I lost money but I had a great time and I "think" I broke even or the "value" I received equals my losses.
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The cycle does not end. They offer you more free stuff because of your loyal play. If you have a reward card, you are a loser because the casino already won.
If the casino spots an advantage player, they simply refuse their patronage. So no, the casinos will never shut down the roulette games.
Are you a reward player?
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Here is a typical scenario that happens when playing roulette.
The player buys in with a discrete bank, depending on the table limit, 100.00 for example on a 10.00 table minimum.
The player builds his table stake to 1,000.00 dollars. The pit-boss asks if the player has a player’s card. The answer is no. Do you want one? No thank you. This is when you ask to cash out and leave the casino.
If you lose your 100.00 or whatever you stop loss is, pull out your rewards card and ask the dealer to have the pit-boss to record your loss (play) on the card.
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We as a roulette group cannot agree on the best way to learn how to beat the game of roulette. We, instead, speak about our own roulette experiences and what we have read from various disciplines and points of view: wheel-based, layout-based, physics, math, psychic, etc., disproving and justifying why a particular approach does not work.
I remember when The Roulette Formula, by Kimo Li, was first made public in 2005 regarding the many facets of dividing up the wheel and categorizing them into groups that would serve as a universal roulette language. For those players who have embraced the ideas of the Global Pie Method and later The Matrix, they are consciously and subconsciously reaping the benefits of pattern recognition and intuition. It could be as simple as which half of the wheel is the ball falling, or more complex, like reading boomerang patterns on the layout, and knowing the number relationships on the wheel.
The internal accountant retrieves information from several databases stored within the cortex of the brain, unlike a library that is well organized, but rather, data randomly scattered throughout the brain, most of the time duplicate in nature. If one part of data is “erasedâ€, it can be traced and found in another part of the cortex. One must have data in their minds and not on a computer or cell phone. You don’t believe me. Imagine if you lost your phone. How many phone numbers do you remember?
Intuition, therefore, has a direct relationship with information gathered and stored throughout one’s experience using a set of principles that is “proven†to win consistently, which by the way, cannot happen without a universal language, set of rules, and discipline.
No pattern escapes the intuitive mind of a professional Global Pie roulette player. My intuition tells me that there is someone out there who begs to differ.
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A professional roulette player is much like a professional boxer. The roulette player's nemesis is random numbers. How does one conquer random numbers? The boxer acquires the fundamental skills necessary to compete, jabs, hooks, upper cut etc. and applies certain strategies, depending on the opponent. So too does the roulette player, the player must acquire many skills, not just the basics, things like wheel head number positions, ball movement recognition, trends, pattern recognition, money management, etc.
To defeat one's opponent, a boxer must possess an arsenal of skills. He must learn everything about the opponent's habits and tendencies. Is the boxer aggressive, passive aggressive counter puncher, or multifaceted?
Random numbers behave similarly, tendencies like RRR BB R BBB R, LHLH LLL HH L, OE OE OOO EE O. From the GPM point of view, 4 6 8 5 9 7 or 1 5 3 2 6 4 etc.
The key to winning is to possess the necessary skills of identifying and classifying random numbers and applying specific strategies that will have a favorable outcome.
Most of the time boxers will accumulate points per round to win a match. Many boxers will try and often fail. However, a special boxer, a natural, will come along and possess the necessary skills to achieve a knock out consistently.
Some people are not meant to be boxers.
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The most basic ball movement exercise is to study which side of the wheel the ball is favoring. To do that you must have knowledge of the numbers on the wheel, a map, the Global Pie map, American, 1, 5, 3, 2, 6, 4, European, 4, 6, 8, 5, 9, 7.
The American wheel, starting clock wise from the single zero to the double zero are three sections of six numbers labeled 1, 5, 3, also known as the “odd†half. The “even†half begins after the double zero, three sections labeled 2, 6, 4.
The European wheel, starting clockwise from the single zero to the number 10 are three sections of six numbers as well labeled 4, 6, 8 known as the “even†half of the wheel. The odd half begins with number five, three sections labeled 5, 9, 7.
The sections of the wheel are labeled by the number being in the section. For example, number 4 is in section four on the European wheel. There are two exceptions section one and two on the American wheel. Section one is next to the single zero, therefore is called section one. Section two is next to the double zero, hence section two.
So, now you have a reference point. What should you ask yourself? “Is the ball favoring the even side of the wheel or the odd side of the wheel? How do I exploit that information?â€
This is a simple exercise to notice ball movement.
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If you do not practice each day, 50 spins minimum, you are not a professional. Phrased differently, if you practice playing 50 spins a day, you are a professional.
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What is your worth?
Every human being possesses some kind of skill. Whenever someone is in need of services from others, usually there is a transaction. I have family members who have skills which I could ask for help. I would never ask for help and not pay, maybe an exchange of services.
For example, my brother, who is a professional mechanic, could fix my vehicle for free. I would always pay him a fair price because I value his time and the years he had to study to be in that profession. More importantly, I respect his worth.
It's not about greed. My time is precious to me. If anyone wants to learn anything, they need to consider the value of what they are seeking, college education, technical skills, or roulette skills, etc., what is your worth?
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END has two parts.
First, you choose what pie is likely to come in.
Second, you choose what star is also likely to come in.
Merge both pie and star. One number will be in both the pie and star.
European example:
Global Pie Four 32 15 19 04 21 02
Global Star Six 02 13 10 20 29 26
The only common number is 02.
So now, bet 02, one number, not 27 numbers
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“Hi Kimo do you think during the time you studied and been involved with roulette it has become more popular worldwide, or less, or just the same?â€
There have been many changes since the first time I studied roulette. Indian casinos, for example, bring marketing and awareness to roulette, making playing roulette easily accessible. Instead of going to the library to check out a book, we now have the internet. Learning about roulette is a click away. We have access to historical information, videos, and forums, etc. In terms of the popularity of roulette worldwide, there is no question that roulette is popular since I first studied roulette. However, I believe the level of interest remains the same.
Roulette may have gained worldwide popularity. But, I see many newcomers, casual, and seasoned players lose consistently. Last week, I had lunch with a friend who had worked as an accountant in a major casino. He said that casinos do not care about the advantage player, only if they exceed a certain amount, which is rare, he said. Money made from non-informed players make up the majority of their profits.
He said, most, if not all players, come to the casino with an amount they are willing to lose, not willing to win, but lose. Casinos would rather take money from players who have set a personal losing threshold before playing because the casinos know they will not break the player’s bank. Casinos do not want to break a player because they want them to come back. When players win, the player will tell their friends. When the player loses, the player will validate their losses to having a good time.
Brad said:
“As already mentioned by Kimo you must balance your life first: Family, friends, work, entertainment
You cannot play roulette successfully when you are not emotionally and financially stable.
First play for love of the game, and not about money. Once you learn the game money can come easily.
Roulette only has small house edge 2.7 or 5.4%
If you read Kimo's books and practise every day he already give us enough tools to overcome this edge easily
Pie strategy, star strategy, pie movement, star movement, eclipse
Analyse some spins online and walk around casino tables you can see the patterns: bow tie 69, hemisphere a and b, and so on.
Which leads to a final thought about money - money is a strange thing. The harder you reach for it the more it resists you. The less you focus on it and more on the task at hand the easier it will come to you. I think this definitely applies to roulette!â€
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How does a roulette player know when to bet?
The answer is when you start seeing the trends you that are familiar to you, make them your favorites. What?
No matter what vehicle you own, ever notice how often you see the same kind of car on the road. Most people randomly see various makes, models, and year every day. But, when a car like yours drives by, something strange happens; your consciousness awakens. My advice, "own" several trends, trade in your vehicle from time to time.
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Harry said:
“...Keep roulette as a hobby. Many people enjoy photography as a hobby. These people have a job, support their own and/or others need, and enjoy photography in their free time. Maybe, after a few years, someone notices that their level of photography has got to a high level and starts buying their photographs. This hobby then becomes profitable. Although, on their camera, they have many experimental, bad photographs. But that is the fun of their hobby.
Also it is not just you who has a "birthright", everyone has the right to a happy life. Everyone has the right to become who they want to be. But this is not automatic, you have to go and create the life that you want. You are not going to wake up tomorrow as the CEO of Microsoft just because you think you deserve it. If you want to be the CEO of Microsoft go and start at an entry-level job at a company and work your way up until you are, as you said, it's a birthright, but you need to go out and achieve it. It may even be fun, just like your photography hobby after a day in the office.â€
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Many years ago release point on the wheel played a major factor, as well as the previous number (drop point). Currently, dealers are trained to mix up the release point and speed of the ball, also alternate various balls during play. It now becomes moot.
A process becomes viable when consistency validates the outcome. By this I mean, when a player is faced with multiple trends and have the ability recognize what type of trends they are dealing with, only then can the player choose the optimum path to success, having learned either by experience or other means.
Today, however when one tracks ball movement, either by release point or drop point, it does not matter. What matters is having the ability capitalize on pure statistics.
Even chances and ball movement functions the same. Both provide similar trends. However, the only difference is ball movements also provide options for 6, 9, 12, or 18 numbers, even chances, only 18.
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I had sat down on a 4 - 8 limit poker game. I am in seat 9. To my right, seat 8 is an aggressive player, meaning he raises a lot. He will be my fish today. Seats 1, 2, 3 are rocks, meaning they play only premium hands, pocket aces, kings, queens, etc. I will be able to bluff them on certain hands, meaning the flop did not hit their hands.
Seat 4 and 7 are amateurs, meaning unpredictable. I will only play premium hands when I am in a hand with them. Seat 5, he is like me. He knows what he is doing. So I will respect his play, unless he tries to challenge me. Then, I will make an effort to put him in check by trapping him. Seat 6 is an unknown, stay out his way.
It is important to size up the table before one begins to pursue playing a poker game. The same holds true when playing roulette. I treat roulette like a poker game. I study the current trends and treat each trend like a poker player. When the trend changes, I contribute that to a player is leaving and a new player sitting down.
Depending on the strategy of choice, based on what is trending, I can accumulate a mass amount of money in a short period of time with roulette. However, poker takes time because the pace is much slower than roulette. The principles are the same.
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That's the beauty of trends. If it continues, stay on the gravy train. When it stops, jump on the next train. All trends can be managed. So, why choose the most challenging? Wait for the easy trend, "take the money and run."
Waiting, what a simple concept, it is necessary. Yet, most people fail to understand the significance, much like stopping, same principle.
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The easiest trend to choose is the one that presents itself. That can only happen when one understands that every number is a star number. No matter what number comes in, it belongs to a group that is trending. Random numbers are no longer classified as random when the numbers gather in synchronicity.
If we let ourselves be influenced by "proven" mathematical principles, in game where Mathematical Positive EV does not exist, we are doomed to fail. So if we flat bet 10 dollars on red, on every spin, mathematically, a Mathematical Positive EV does not exist.
Who made these rules? Why do we have to bet every spin? Why only flat bet? And why do we need a long sample? How does one win at a game that is doomed to fail?
One may follow rules that exist outside the mindset of conventional thinking. If these rules were to be disclosed to the public, then these rules would also become conventional thinking. Common sense, not mathematics, tell me not to bet every spin, bet in strategic amounts, and stop when my target has been met, win or lose.
One can possess the Holy Grail of strategies. What good is it, if the rules of engagement is not followed as it was designed? Hence, the psychological perspective, it is the deliberate self-control and discipline that will conquer fear and greed, which makes for a successful player.
Sounds simple enough, I think.
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If someone wants something bad enough, they will find the means. Nothing can be achieved unless there is desire. "Beware the power of a made up mind." Napoleon Hill.
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European Wheel number distribution: Red and Black / High and Low
First Half: 32 15 19 04 21 02 25 17 34 06 27 13 36 11 30 08 23 10
High Red numbers and Low Black numbers:
19 21 23 25 27 30 32 34 36 (High Red)
02 04 06 08 10 11 13 15 17 (Low Black)
Second Half: 05 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 09 22 18 29 07 28 12 35 03 26
High Black numbers and Low Red numbers:
20 22 24 26 28 29 31 33 35 (High Black)
01 030 5 07 09 12 14 16 18 (Low Red)
American Wheel number distribution: Odd and Even / High and Low
First Half: 28 09 26 30 11 7 20 32 17 05 22 34 15 03 24 36 13 01
High Even numbers and Low Odd numbers
20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 (High Even)
01 03 05 07 09 11 13 15 17 (Low Odd)
Second Half: 27 10 25 29 12 08 19 31 18 06 21 33 16 04 23 35 14 02
High Odd numbers and Low Even numbers
19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 (High Odd)
02 04 06 08 10 12 14 16 18 (Low Even)
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I have many stories. I thought I would share an experience from last year, and one from the archives.
Last year, on July 21, I was staying at the Bellagio. I was with a GPM player called the Jammer. I was craving Hawaiian food so we went down town to the Plaza. After we ate at the Hawaiian restaurant, we decided to play some roulette.
The minimum bet was 5.00. We were use to 25.00 minimum bets. Without thinking, I bought in at 500.00 and so did the Jammer. We drew a lot of attention, immediately. The pit boss came right to the table. Our goal was 2,000.00 each. We started playing a strategy called Finger Prints, and we hit our goal in 6 spins.
After the second spin, they changed the dealer and the ball. The pit boss asked if we had a player’s card. We said no. Would you like one? We said no. Are you staying at the hotel? We said no. Where are you staying? I said, Bellagio. You bet like strip players, why are you here? I told him we came down town to eat Hawaiian food. He said oh, makes sense.
After we took about 4,000.00, we cashed out and the pit boss looked relieved. I imagine that's a big chunk of the profits from his shift. The moral of the story is to stay under the radar, play in accordance with the casino's expectations, like 1.00 chips and a goal of 200.00 per session, instead of 2,000.00. The common ways the casino tries to stop a good session are changing the dealer, changing the ball, delay the spins, wait for the players to bet before the ball is spun.
In one instance, back in 1989 at the Stardust, I turned 100.00 to five figures. They stopped my play, assigned me a host, and gave me the VIP treatment to watch the Lido show, the best seat in the house, very close to the stage, surrounded by half naked women, free everything, great experience. It was cheaper for the casino, for me to be at the show than at the table.
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Discipline is the key to winning. Without it, you will be a loser, no matter what strategy you use.
I want to talk about the importance of keeping detailed records. I cannot stress this concept enough. Keeping a daily record of spins, choice of strategy, and amount of wins and losses, using spreadsheets provided or created.
If you choose to ignore record keeping, you may as well consider yourself doomed. How else can you analyze and measure your progress, success, or losses? I know when someone is serious. It's when they properly provide me with their record keeping in a professional manner.
Here is what I look for:
Target analysis, what is your goal, bank, stop win, stop loss, strategy used, betting strategy, length of session, among other things. These are the things one has to ask themselves. If you don't, you are in denial.
Denial comes in many forms. Here are some examples. "I don't need to keep records because I know what I am doing, or just too lazy. I just faced my stop loss, but I know a run is coming. The biggest denial comes when you hit your target right away, but won't stop and leave, because you crave action." I could list more.
I have one member who realized why he was losing. He told me he will never ever give back the money, never. Action was put in check. I was happy for him because HE came out of denial and faced his demons, which led to his success.
"KEEP IT IN CHECK"
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I was at lowest point in my life. I just wanted to escape. Escape I did. I was in my 20s. This is not an inspiring story. It's a story of running away from my mind. I had so many things on my mind that I wanted to forget, I couldn't stop thinking. Looking back, I think I was experiencing a breakdown.
The first time I played roulette I was at the StarDust in Las Vegas. The dealer said to me, "Put your chips on number 7." I did. Number seven came in. "Let's make some money," he said. "Press the number 7," he said. I doubled the bet. It came in back to back. He said, "Hey man, take care of your dealer," he said under his breath. Number 11, he said. So, I put 100.00 on number 11. I said, to him and to the pit boss, "50.00 to the boys."
The dealer was Vietnamese and said to me, as I cashed out, "When you play roulette, look to see what area dealer is dropping the ball. Play around the section. When the dealer hit the section, tip him good." He said, "There is no way anyone can beat roulette, impossible, unless you know the dealer." This was in the 1980s.
Impossible? I am a numbers person. "There must be a way." I had asked myself. It all started with sections. I found myself thinking about roulette 24/7. I became obsessed. So much so, that I finally had no time to think about anything else. The more I thought about roulette, one discovery led to another. I really thought I would never figure it out, which helped my mind stay away from thoughts that haunted me. But, I did it, 24/7.
I passed up many careers in my life, engineer, government, business leader, to name a few. I studied roulette for the wrong reasons. What people think of me, friends, family, etc., does not affect the way I conduct my life. I am a professional roulette player.
Funny how the world treat professional sport players with possessing skills like throwing a ball in a basket, hitting home runs, putting a golf ball in a hole, etc.
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Brad asked:
Hi Kimo.
Thinking about a hot trend, let’s say you pick it and you back it and you win
Are you of the mentality to ride it out till you lose or lock in a profit at a point (stop win) and move on?
Or would you consider both options depending on circumstances?
Thanks
Your question hinges on two types of personality. The first deals with someone who follows a strict regimen of rules, "If I reach my goal, I will stop. If I lose X amount of dollars, I will stop." This particular approach is recommended for players who are compulsive by nature, someone who likes action and to takes too much risk. These are the players who need structure in their lives in order to win.
The second deals with someone who knows how to maneuver large swings of winning and losing. They have an established goal set before they even think about playing, for example, 60,000.00 in 6 days. They are keen in the ability to ride a hot trend, at the same time, recognize when a trend is diminishing, either by a set of predetermined losses or a win amount that will not draw attention. These players do not crave action, rather optimizing opportunities and know when to stop.
Personally, I would ride the tide and see how far I can exceed my target, stopping at 10 times my target goal or stop when I encounter a stop loss, while on a hot trend, winning only 8 times my target, for example.
If anyone finds themselves chasing, Use the stop win / stop loss approach, better safe than sorry.
A person will know when they have reached the level of professional, especially when the skills they possess is not roulette related. Know your skills and hone them. If learning roulette skills is on your plate, know that it is 24/7.
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"God helps those who help themselves," a powerful quote.
One of the things I enjoy watching are shows from the American south, shows like Swamp People. It's about alligator hunting. But, it's more than that. It's about people who are very resourceful. They call it, hillbilly ingenuity.
They have the ability to figure things out, either by self reliance, by engineering, by past experiences, or by seeking wisdom from others. They are a proud people with moral standards and treat people with respect. That is not to say that all of these people are that way. But, for the most part, the majority of people live by a "code of ethics."
It takes a certain kind of person to pursue the life of a professional roulette player, one who is self reliant, resourceful, and wise. They always have a mindset of helping themselves, and when possible, others.
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There is a common factor that touches the human experience and all professions. It's starts off as a passion. Then, it turns into an obsession. Subsequently, it may become an addiction. When passion, obsession, and addiction thrives in any society, profits exist, regardless if the profession is young or old.
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It is within the nature of patterns that all wheels are vulnerable to exploitation, regardless of design. The gaming commission "makes sure" that the player is not at a disadvantage, any further than the percentage that is already against the player, with the games provided by the casino, hence a "balanced wheel."
The casinos may change the physical nature of the wheel or rearrange the numbers on the wheel. This will not deter an advantage player. So, it appears the only way casinos can combat any advantage player is to refuse their patronage.
The wheel I refuse to play, just out of principle, is the Sands roulette wheel found at the Palazzo casino in Las Vegas. It has three zeros, all next to each other, 0, Sands, 00, a total of 39 numbers and pays 35 to 1. Also, I would not play on non-regulated games, usually found in social clubs.
The dealer said to me, as I stood watching the wheel, "Now you can hit the zeros more frequently because they are all next to each other." On the layout, they even have a green spot between red and black for easy betting.
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I had watched a report on AI (Artificial Intelligence) on 60 minutes, recently. The show mentioned how AI can recognize patterns that most humans cannot process. A point was made on how AI can pick up patterns and sequences that most humans can only process in the subconscious mind. The patterns are subtle and described as instinctive.
When studying the art of roulette, players who practice daily, will have instinctive moments, recognizing patterns becomes second nature.
Funny, how Illusionists and professional roulette players hold secrets.
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The Law of Large Numbers is ALWAYS catching up, assuming the player plays every spin. Predictions matter only when a tracking method is used during play. Predictions do not matter when random applications are implemented.
Either approach will always be influenced the law of larger numbers. It is in the belief in one's approach that gives rise to predicting numbers. Without this belief, there would be no reason to play roulette.
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In terms of roulette, it is in the subconscious mind where patterns are digested and brought forth to the conscious mind and applied to the layout. This can only be achieved by understanding what type of patterns that are showing themselves, LR, HB, HR, LB; BOWTIE, HEMI, CORNERS, NUKE, 09 QUADS, etc... The patterns are endless. It is the countless hours of practice, a trained eye, and the subconscious mind that can "predict" the outcome with a high percentage of success, which suggest, you cannot win all the time, but will win most of the time.
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RNG, Really Nothing Good can come out of playing games that deal with computer generated numbers. So, why play it? Only if there is an edge that can be exploited, then by all means, play it. I agree.
It's like playing poker. Why would a player challenge a strong player, unless he himself is a stronger player? Is it not the goal to make money by exploiting a weaker player? If one is faced with a table full of sharks, change table.
If live roulette is available, then play live roulette.
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It makes a difference to learn some stars, pies, and layout groups.
I have lesson graduates who specialize in layout principles who are very successful.
In fact, I received an email this morning regarding a layout approach playing a combination of numbers 1 3 5 7 9 20 22 24 26 and why this graduate was having great success with these combinations. This group actually belongs to a layout strategy.
Prior to taking lessons, he would play 1 3 5 7 9 as his favorite numbers and win. He figured there was something to this. He also noticed it would not come in and would lose. After the lesson, he realized that it's not the numbers that would cause him to win, it was the ability to know when to play those numbers, and other groups of numbers. This can only be achieved if you "trade in your cars regularly."
He has the ability to differentiate between the various groups and identify the patterns that are running. There are two approaches. One, the player can wait for their favorite groups to show up and bet. Or, the player can use the current spins to see what groups are "on the road" and bet accordingly.
The latter is conducive to playing live roulette as the player have to play every spin.
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When numbers are generated randomly, the numbers only appear to be random, because each individual has a set of rational groups they rely on to make sense of the numbers. We know each number has a characteristic, R B O E L H etc. It's always ideal when the numbers behave in groups that these characteristics exhibit. But, what happens when these seemingly easy number characteristics display erratic streaks and groupings?
These non-classified numbers are now considered random. But, what if more groups or characteristics are created? Our reference points become greater. All of a sudden, what appears to be random becomes highly recognizable, no longer random.
It's not about following laws or disobeying decision theory. It's about creating order in an otherwise seemingly chaotic random number paradigm.
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I can say this. Every number belongs to some kind of categorization whether it is wheel base or layout. Ball movement is a discipline in itself subject to the same categorization as wheel base and layout base.
The easiest example would be if the ball moves from on section to another. Does the ball move from one neighbor to another in a CW or CCW motion? From the layout perspective, does the ball move from one dozen to another, column to another, double street to another, street to another, corner to another, split to another. The possibilities are endless and not subject to a closed system.
The possibilities are only limited to ones imagination, or lack thereof. If you look hard enough, you will find a strategy I had posted on one of the forums that I consider one the best strategies in my arsenal. However, few, in none, know its potential, not even some of my graduate students.
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The philosophy behind a balanced wheel or unbalanced wheel comes from the idea that both can be tracked. If it is balanced, then the distribution should be equal around the wheel. Hence, we use the Global Star approach. If the wheel is unbalanced, then the wheel should show signs of being biased. So, now we use Global Pie Methods. Either way, we can achieve a positive result.
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I have been a strong advocate of using one's brain when memorizing strategies and pattern trends. Tracking number groups and identifying trends is the key to GPM player's success. The edge will always present itself, no matter the circumstances.
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I believe for every move there is a counter move. The casino business is always on the look out to counter any advantage play within their legal boundaries. There are so paranoid they do not allow any phones near the roulette table. Devices are vulnerable to detection and subject to arrest or banning.
Players with an advantage of winning can also be banned. You don't have to have a system or method. If you win consistently, they may refuse your patronage and charge you with trespassing.
GPM is a strategy that requires a strong foundation, which includes memorization of the number sequences on the wheel head, it's section and stars, the correlation and relationship to the layout. It is a map. It is a language, a philosophy, and a tool. Without it you may lose your way.
Ask yourself, "How serious are you, when it comes to roulette?"
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Absolutely, it does take mental preparation to be in the game. Without mental stamina, the player is doomed. Pursing any endeavor without mental preparation may hinder or slow down the process of achieving one's goal, even failure.
Roulette is a very boring game. The danger of sitting in one place for a short period of time may trigger a losing session. How does this happen? In less than 20 minutes, a player can be up 1,000.00 dollars. It's boring. So, there is a tendency that most humans cannot resist, that is to manifest excitement. A bored player does this by extending playing time, increasing table stakes, and taking bigger risk.
A seasoned professional knows this pitfall. How does he survive this kind of temptation? First, he must recognize the behavior. Secondly, he must create a diversion that does not include alcohol, drugs, or other destructive behavior.
In my case, my deflection is poker. The game is slow. Many hours may pass and it feels like 30 minutes. It's a thinking man's game which I find relaxing. Unlike roulette, the poker profits are meager by GPM standards. But, it offers a deflection and fuels the demon of boredom.
For me, to enjoy the trappings of Las Vegas, I would have to be there not to gamble, but, to enjoy the company of friends or family. We would do the tourist things, like shopping, site seeing, eating, bowling, etc., definitely no gambling.
I treat roulette gambling as a business. It's a solitary game, at least for me. I do not socialize with people in the casino environment. For one, I have a lot of cash on me. I don't trust anyone. I am always aware of people who "look out of place." I am always scanning my surroundings. Yes, you have to be mentally prepared, or this lifestyle will consume and devour you.
Out of body experience, that's how I would describe the casino environment, a place where psychological warfare is constantly waging, no pun intended. The majority of people are casualties and don't know it.
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My culture dictates how I feel about tipping. At a young age, I learned from the old timer gamblers, that it is customary to give something back, when winning, or giving a cut to a friend who happens to be there when you win, usually it's lunch on me kind of gesture. What it boils down to is karma.
In the USA, there are Americans who refuse to tip. It is not required. I am not familiar with Australians being stingy tippers. I guess casino personnel can classify and profile stingy tippers based on their experience.
There was one time I was playing poker where they had a splash pot promotion. For those who are not familiar with the term splash pot, it's when the casino will put 100.00 in a pot on one hand at the table. The table that gets the splash pot is determined by a number drawn from a bingo type dispenser. The winner wins the pot and the losers get 20.00 each.
A visiting foreigner won the pot. He did not tip. The pot was about 200.00 dollars. We all received our losing 20.00. I looked at the winner dead in the eye and tipped the dealer my 20.00 dollars. Four out of the 8 losing players at the table followed my lead.
Unfortunately, the foreigner became a target. He lost everything on the table and an additional four hundred dollars out of pocket at the end of his session, karma.
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That is one of the lessons I have learned in my life, that is, to slip my feet into the persons' shoes and see how they view the world. If I don't know, I would politely ask.
"Please remove your shoes before entering," is non-verbal protocol in Hawaii, a sign of respect.
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Yes, GPM provides "an inherent pattern in the probabilistic make up of the game, which is never affected by the speed of the rotor or the dealer's degree of release or any other kind of factors," which leads to consistency, every single time.
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"Everyday I try to find something new. Still looking."
This statement applies to all aspects of life, like discovering, learning, and creating, whether it's woodworking, spreadsheet development, or just about anything.
I had introduced an idea to a friend to help him improve a process that would save time and money. He was not interested. He kept on doing the same process. About a year later, he tried the idea and found out it works much better. He often admits it takes him a long time to warm up to new ideas.
"Its amazing how sharp your mind becomes when you do this every day."
A sharp mind makes for better decisions. Better decisions leads to success.
I analyze 50 spins every morning, without fail.
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Triggers are necessary in the world of gambling. Often, people use the phrase, "being in the right place at the right time,†when they experience good fortune.
The human mind is always looking for a way to process information to find some reasonable explanation as to why things are happening. A trigger is used as an attempt to capture that eureka moment.
Strict triggers are the easiest to remember and require a high winning percentage, or else it would be just another trigger. Therefore, any adjustment to any situation requires a strict trigger for every scenario.
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Consider this. If triggers are useless, what is next? So now, it is human nature to figure out and search for other means of playing. It's always good to find something new that works in your favor. So, the fight goes on, how to beat roulette without using triggers?
Is there an answer? Yes. For every move, there is a counter move.
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Brad said:
"What I think is important is that you do not switch whichever method you use in a session so that the reference point is constant. "
This is an important point. It allows the player to be totally focused. There are a few who can mentally track more than one strategy. However, it you want optimum results, per session, I recommend focusing on one strategy.
Whether you use the last section or ball release point as your reference, it does not matter, because both options uses a specific parameter to gauge trend analysis. Overtime, each approach will "experience success and lack of success at various times." Lack of success does not mean failure. It means losses is are inevitable, but can be controlled by set guidelines.
Winning also has its guidelines. The optimum time to stop, when winning, is when the optimum amount reaches the top of the bell curve.
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Like you, I am not inclined to share my concepts publicly. It's nice to know that there are others who share the same passion. I have learned through experience that it takes a certain kind of individual to understand new concepts, not all can grasp the ideas. Teaching who you believe may grasp the concepts, as you say, is an art. Certain criteria have to be met, not all qualify.
My new focus will be returning back to my roots and start wagering on Greyhound racing, Para-mutual betting strategies. Since the advent of watching live online greyhound racing, the opportunity to make money from greyhound racing will become lucrative. In fact, the concepts found in my roulette strategies were born from my original greyhound strategies.
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But for those who don't, would you follow his advice? So, you want to figure out the puzzle. Are you willing to pay the price? If you are lucky, you may figure it out in this life time. The question you must ask yourself, is the time spent figuring out roulette worth it?
Here's are the choices: you spend your life as a working career professional or work menial jobs while trying to figure out the roulette puzzle, hoping to strike it rich when you do figure it out, only to come to the realization that you whole life has past you by, because you failed. If you are lucky, you may know enough to retire comfortably.
The way I see it is you spend 30 years of your life as a career minded professional at an average of 60,000.00 a year for 30 years equals 1,800,000.00 in earned revenue. Roulette earnings for 10 years at 500.00 a day equals, 1,825,000.00. Is it worth it?
Either way, there is a negative expectation. Become a career minded professional and you are faced with student loans and debt. Become a professional roulette player, you have to spend time and money figuring it out, if you are lucky.
To me it's a no brain er. GPM professionals have figured it out.
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The transformation that takes place in one's mind is not a transformation, but an awakening. The individual is enthralled into a world few people experience. Suddenly, the core values that once guided one's existence now face the task of walking a thin line. Choose wisely.
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Patience is the key to success. The GPM player already is armed with tracking skills. Follow the plan and do not deviate. GPM players know, a natural instinct will develop. Don't worry when you are faced with an unusual series of stop loss. Patience, the mother load trend will show up. It always does.
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The matrix was developed to program strategies on a spreadsheet.
Also, it’s like carrying like a deck of flash cards, mainly for memorization. As you know there are so many.
I will never publish the Matrix, Sequence, or Finger Print.
Many have had a glimpse to the Matrix world, but do not fully understand it’s potential.
The most successful players have only one or two strategies mastered. The motto seems to be, once the player finds something that works for them, they don't change anything, even though they have thousand of strategies to choose from.
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What would you consider to be a great method?
I have a mindset of a lazy person, although, by far, I am not close to being lazy.
Having that mindset forces me to look for easier ways of winning.
Therefore, what I consider to be a great method is having the method decide what I should bet, with little effort of thinking, as opposed to having to decide what method I should use, which involves multilevel, brain wrecking, analysis.
"Not to decide is to decide."
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Brad said:
“Hi Kimo regarding your thoughts it sounds like you are looking for a purely mechanical system that will enable you to win because you will not need any thought other than to follow the rules.
Rather than to have to constantly analyze number groups, movement and balance / imbalance and select the right strategy at the right time.
I've been looking for that too.
Even though I know I will never find it I still keep looking.
U know I read that the world’s most successful business people actually are driven by the desire to be truly lazy. That is what they strive towards. They work hard to build a system so they don't have to work hard.â€
Wow -- Incredible post Kimo Li. Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this.
It will need to be read many times as there is a lot of valuable information contained in there.
I am doing so in bite size chunks.
Cheers.
I believe that you always need to check information on personal experience. Personally practiced the strategy of the game and started to win. Even bought myself books to make it more convenient to study information.
HEllo guyz. I am searching Holyman's matrix and how to play instructions. I can not find download section, where is the downlod section of this forum? Or can you give me any working link for Holyman's matrix? Thank you so much.
It's that time of year, March, for the annual post.
If you study roulette for many years, you will understand that the roulette spins tell a story.
As a result, you can capitalize on that story.
For example, if you have 10 reds in a row, and it continues to stay on red, then you can capitalize on the idea that you have 18 number to choose from, other than the obvious color red.
So, if you like playing 9 numbers, you can track, low reds and high reds.
That my fellow roulette players is only one story out of thousands available.
What's your story?
If people would just study your book. They can find away to win! I have played your HUGS & KISSES strategy. Made good profit the last few days. The wheel keeps on doing the same thing over & over. Just don"t understand why people sleep on your info? It is not EAZY! But you can win. Man everytime I win a bet I smile. I even play eclipse when the time is right. How did you ever think of this info for roulette is amazing!!!!!
Don't get me wrong you have to track multiple things & that is the hard part quick thinking on your feet. A home made spreadsheet works great.
Now I see we can take any of your 18 number strategy to beat the wheel.
Just need to give this PSA!
QuoteWhat is the function of a roulette forum? It is a place where like minded roulette players gather to talk about the common knowledge of roulette. The reality of this kind of forum does not work because, when it comes to proprietary knowledge, most are not willing to share. Why is that? Take the elements that form a small town community, grocer, hardware store, ice cream shop, restaurant, gas station, barber, baker, to name a few, each contribute to the function of the community.
A roulette community does not function that way. Instead, if a roulette player has a strategy that works really well, they are "expected" to share freely, or else they are chastised and called all kinds of names, liars, scammers, etc.
In a town community, people pay for goods and services in order to function in life. Why should the baker share a secret recipe passed down from generations? Should the grocer give free goods to the entire community? Here lies the problem with roulette forum members, they want something for nothing.
Most forums have a policy where a player is able to solicit their goods and services, "Systems, Product, and Services for sale." The merchants are quickly scrutinized, and in most cases, endure bullying and abuse from the roulette community. Other places forbid the solicitation of goods and services regarding roulette altogether.
Word of mouth by a community shows the essence of communication. It has been my experience that when I decide to pay a premium price for a cherry turnover baked pie, it's because I heard about it through word of mouth, to see what the rave is all about; that is what a community is about, acknowledging the worth of our baker.
There is no point in having a roulette forum where only common knowledge is shared and goods and services are not welcomed. A close society is a dead society.
Very nice alegory... perfect minds... you self created ?
Quote from: Kimo Li on March 21, 2022, 12:54:57 PM
It's that time of year, March, for the annual post.
If you study roulette for many years, you will understand that the roulette spins tell a story.
As a result, you can capitalize on that story.
For example, if you have 10 reds in a row, and it continues to stay on red, then you can capitalize on the idea that you have 18 number to choose from, other than the obvious color red.
So, if you like playing 9 numbers, you can track, low reds and high reds.
That my fellow roulette players is only one story out of thousands available.
What's your story?
Hi Kimo Li , always great to hear from you. I always seek out your posts.
Here's one of mine --
When a dozen sleeps for " x " amount of spins , bet the numbers that have been spun while it has been sleeping for " y " amount of spins.
You should see what I can see and remember you can record 12 numbers in many more ways than just the standard 3 dozens.
Cheers.
Quote from: zeus2525 on March 21, 2022, 04:15:43 PM
If people would just study your book. They can find away to win! I have played your HUGS & KISSES strategy. Made good profit the last few days. The wheel keeps on doing the same thing over & over. Just don"t understand why people sleep on your info? It is not EAZY! But you can win. Man everytime I win a bet I smile. I even play eclipse when the time is right. How did you ever think of this info for roulette is amazing!!!!!
Don't get me wrong you have to track multiple things & that is the hard part quick thinking on your feet. A home made spreadsheet works great.
Now I see we can take any of your 18 number strategy to beat the wheel.
Just need to give this PSA!
I agree, I don't seem to understand why roulette players cannot see the significance and power the knowledge I have to offer. Oh well, as they say, "You can lead the horse to drink water, but you cannot force them to drink."
Good luck,
Kimo Li
Good Morning,
With regard to leading horses to water Kimo, they are not thirsty enough or do not have the minerals required to step into the unknown.
The power of learning your way is significant because it opens a multitude of doors unknown to the common roulette mind.
Let the bobbers, Bob along, the naysayers nay say and the people who truly qualify to learn the Kimo Li way go ahead. As stated a university education doesn’t come for free, but gives you a place at the table at whatever profession you choose. Why should this be any different?
Good luck.
It's the annual post 2023, a re-post from the past. Still here.
People of this generation are lazy. Instant gratification appears to be the driving force behind self satisfaction. I would go on to further say that when it comes to roulette players who seek a strategy that will win without effort, are the same players who cannot remember most phone numbers on their cell phone.
You see, if anyone wants to be successful in roulette, they need to know the landscape of the wheel. Their brain needs to know some kind of reference point in order to calculate predictions. A computer can provide many options; however, have you ever tried to using your cell phone at the table, even if you are only using it to check messages. The pit boss gets right into your face, "Sir, no phones at the table."
Why is that? The reason is because the casinos know that a computer can make instant calculations and provide optimum predictions for a favorable win. You have a computer. It's your brain. Like I said, people of this generation are lazy and are quick criticize without having done any research.
You want to be a roulette player? Start by using your computer and memorize the numbers on the roulette wheel so that you have some sense of direction. You will be surprise what your brain can do. Keep in mind that is only the beginning. Lazy minds need not apply.
Hello master li, i am one if your students from the Bahamas. Its good to hear from you, in still in saving mode to start lesson 1.
Happy 2024
It's time for the annual Kimo Li Way post.
My first book was published May 16, 2006, The Roulette Formula – How to Predict the Exact Number.
Eight months later, January 3, 2007, The European Roulette Book was published.
My publisher told me that gambling books has a shelf life of 10 years. It's now going on 18 years and going strong.
These books can be purchase on Amazon.
This thread was started by PokerTwist in 2011.
I noticed there is a lot of traffic on this post, people wanting to learn more about the Global Pie Method.
If you want to read more about my Collection of Thoughts, or are interested in taking lessons to become a professional roulette player, go to the Kimo Li Roulette website.
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