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Title: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 21, 2011, 03:46:55 PM
Edit: For online roulette strategies see http://www.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy-card/ (http://www.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy-card/) - you can't trust all online casinos, actually around half.

QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY,PLEASE!!!

One simple and clear question:can we  believe to online live roulette??

We all can agree that numbers at RNG comes too much accidental,that software is using our strategy to make its own against us!! :angry2: :angry2:
But what about live roulette?? At the time I can hear more and more suspicious minds about fair game at online live roulette. . . .

Please goes to all more experienced players and members of this forum,to tell their comment about it,and perhaps give some advice. . .  :good:

Sorry for my English,good luck to all!!!!! :yes:
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Ginger on October 21, 2011, 04:16:48 PM
Hello,

You can't trust them , that's why I'm only use them for practising with fun money and do the business in a real casino.

John   Rotterdam
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: John Gold on October 21, 2011, 04:32:51 PM
Hello,

You can't trust them , that's why I'm only use them for practising with fun money and do the business in a real casino.

John   Rotterdam

So what is the point of testing anything if you think they are cheating the customers that are playing with real money. Surely that would skew the results and your testing then becomes meaningless.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 21, 2011, 05:28:39 PM
Hi Ginger,
thanks for commenting,but John is right, how can you trust to results of your practice,when you didnt get it in fair game??

Cheers!!

Maybe members can name some online live casinos,where is fair game,even close to it??
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 21, 2011, 06:16:20 PM
I    have been patronizing a certain on-line casino with free play  only due to the regulations that  US citizens are prevented from playing on-line for money.

I have chosen this casino for the  sole  reason to become more  acquainted with the  single 0  wheel . For the 0/00 wheeel I have  all my ducks  lined  up in a row  but  I also require  the same  proficency to play at a single 0  jurisdiction one of which  is in Canada  about 245 miles away..

This casino appears to be well run  and  rather fair as far as I  was able to  determine  during the past 8 months. It does  not offer the   en prison rule  .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: ADulay on October 22, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY,PLEASE!!!

One simple and clear question:can we  believe to online live roulette??

You know, if a month went by without somebody asking this question, I'd begin to wonder if these forums are legitimate!

The question you are asking is if the majority of users believe they are getting a fair deal with an online, live play.

If most of the people answer in the negative, you will probably not play it, but then you'd be accepting the sometimes slanted view of other members, some of who play REALLY poorly.

If most people say they trust a live, online casino, then you'll at least give it a try, if you haven't already done so.

Your best bet?  Try the LIVE casinos that you have access to (for fun on the live wheel/table) until you're comfortable with their particular style.  THEN ask around to see if others concur with your thoughts on a particular casino and not just "all online casinos".

So, which casino are you interested in?

AD (I like mine and use it weekly to play LIVE only)
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: schoenpoetser on October 22, 2011, 06:02:46 AM
Every system can be manipulated .
Life roulette can be an illusion.
The wheel can also be manipulated.

It is very difficult to prove a system is manipulated. If you think it is,don`t play.

The life casinos make is more difficult to play than in real casinos.

The displays are very small, sometimes only the latest 5 results.If you wait two spins you become a warning. For statistic players very uncomfortable
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: cheese on October 22, 2011, 06:04:32 AM
The only trustworthy live casino I've found is Smart Live Casino.
The dealer has a mic and talks all the time. They announce the
winning spin, and talk about it. This is broadcast on a live cable
TV channel in Britain, it would be very hard for them to cheat.
They don't need to cheat, most players have no idea what they're
doing. I suspect if you win too much, they do have a way to deal
with that, however.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 22, 2011, 08:14:27 AM
Cheese,thanks a lot!! I saw that smart live casino has a much different offer than other,similar casinos. . . I am gonna try it.

Thanks again and happy winnings!!! :)
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 22, 2011, 08:21:00 AM
ADulay,thanks.

You know,I was just confused by huge list of online casinos in web,so I just wanted to hear opinion of older and more experienced players about it.

Maybe the most fair game should be in the biggest and oldest online casinos,like William Hill,or,888. . . what do you think??

Cheers.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: John Gold on October 22, 2011, 09:03:23 AM
I play at smartlivecasino every other day and have never experienced any problems like 'technical issues' and have no problems getting paid. You have a nice choice of live wheels and auto wheels (with low minimum bet if required)

The only other place I play online is Fairway Casino. I have never had a problem with these guys either and they now have a few different alternatives as well. You can hook up to their live B+M casino in Ireland (not dublinbet but the Sporting Emporium Club) and the other one is located in Spain.

I would avoid any of the live playtech casinos and also challengejackpot.com who I have experienced several technical problems with and funnily enough always on a winning bet.  Must just be a coincidence  :whistle:
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 22, 2011, 09:38:39 AM
Good words,John. thats just kind of information that I needed! :good:
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: morpheus14 on October 22, 2011, 10:43:50 AM
Oh men,the minimum bet for outside bets on Fairway and Smartlive casino is 10$. . . Too much for my way of gambling. . .
Any other sugestions,mates??
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: cheese on October 23, 2011, 02:27:13 AM
To get around that, bet High/Low by betting on the
double streets.  1/4, 7/10, 13/16 are low. 19/22, 25/28,
31/34 are high. If you do that, the min is only $3. You
can do the same with the dozens.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Bo1973 on October 24, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
Not all live roulettes are trustworthy.  Some sites like Unibet have a nice chick as croupier.  Nice to watch but that's about it.
The most decent site i think is Kroon Live casino, with live cam in a real casino and with real croupiers.  I played many times here and pretty sure everything is correct.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Bo1973 on October 24, 2011, 02:35:44 PM
And there are 2 tables, minimum 50 eurocent!
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: John Gold on October 24, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
Sounds ok  :thumbsup:

The live casino is a B+M casino in Malta called the Portomaso Casino. They also have a gaming license from Malta.

There seems to be more of these live B+M casinos popping up nowadays online. I certainly think it promotes more trust because anybody could be relaying the results by phone just to check for authenticity.

I am looking forward to giving them a try.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: John Gold on October 24, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
Here is a good deal. Visit the Portomaso casino in Malta with a 2.5k bankroll and agree to play for 4 hours.

In return, you get:

Airfare refunded.
Taxi transfers to and from the hotel.
Accommodation at the Hilton Malta.
VIP treatment at the casino with complimentary services at the bar and restaurant.

I would imagine the bets would have to be a minimum 25 euro which is about standard. The casino looks real smart on the website.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Nathan Detroit on October 24, 2011, 05:20:24 PM
John Gold,

Here are the calculations for  comps  at  some of B & M US casinos   as   found in a gambling publication a while  back. ( my experience at one  casino to which this calculation  had been applied and comped accordingly .)

Roulette:

30 spins per hour X  average  amount wagered X  5.26 %  ( 2.62 % EC with  le  partage  ) divided by 2=  yield  of  comp .

You take it from there with the casino in Malta. It certainly looks tempting . For a single 0 wheel  you should  consider the 2.7 % ratio .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNIMNGS!!!
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: John Gold on October 24, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Thanks for the info Nathan  8)

Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: master_yi on October 24, 2011, 07:25:21 PM
of course you can trust all roulette wheels it doesnt matter if they are rng live or at the casinos
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Mr J on October 24, 2011, 08:46:23 PM
To get around that, bet High/Low by betting on the
double streets.  1/4, 7/10, 13/16 are low. 19/22, 25/28,
31/34 are high. If you do that, the min is only $3. You
can do the same with the dozens.


What I'll do on a $10 min table if I need some spins to start off (assuming there is nobody else playing at my table)......$2 on ANY of the four double streets and $1 each on the other two double streets.

Ken
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Mr J on October 25, 2011, 12:13:48 AM
"In my view the best live casino is Dublin Bet and this is the real casino by the way.
Have been playing there for 3 years and had no problems" >>> Very accurate, I agree.

Ken
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: webconst on April 23, 2016, 06:55:55 PM
Few years in WH , no problems till now...
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Mr J on April 24, 2016, 11:58:58 AM
"In my view the best live casino is Dublin Bet and this is the real casino by the way.
Have been playing there for 3 years and had no problems" >>> Very accurate, I agree.

Ken

5 years have gone by, I no longer agree with the above. Celtic Casino all the way!!

Ken
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Nathan Detroit on April 24, 2016, 01:04:16 PM
Maybe Celtic is  OK but I prefer  to see  the live  casino action in front of me  at Dublinbet. Celtic croupiers are like Zombies  watching the signal when to drop the ball  whereas  Dublin bet drops the ball whenever ready.


At Dublin the croupiers are busy removing the  chips, paying out the winnings , taking in the cash vouchers. That`s what I call reality.

Not to  forget the " usual suspects "  playing there  night after night.


In short I am enjoying Dublinbet.
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: mogul397 on April 24, 2016, 08:45:59 PM
Edit: For online roulette strategies see http://www.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy-card/ (http://www.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy-card/) - you can't trust all online casinos, actually around half.

QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY,PLEASE!!!

One simple and clear question:can we  believe to online live roulette??

We all can agree that numbers at RNG comes too much accidental,that software is using our strategy to make its own against us!! :angry2: :angry2:
But what about live roulette?? At the time I can hear more and more suspicious minds about fair game at online live roulette. . . .

Please goes to all more experienced players and members of this forum,to tell their comment about it,and perhaps give some advice. . .  :good:

Sorry for my English,good luck to all!!!!! :yes:

No
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Proofreaders2K on April 24, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
Absolutely not.  Far and away B&M Roulette is the best option.  Live
wheels online tend to cheat bettors, especially if you win using a progression.

I've had it happen to me recently and have heard it happen at Dublinbet, so beware!
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Mr J on April 24, 2016, 11:49:16 PM
Absolutely not.  Far and away B&M Roulette is the best option.  Live
wheels online tend to cheat bettors, especially if you win using a progression.

I've had it happen to me recently and have heard it happen at Dublinbet, so beware!

I agree Proof in regards to an ACTUAL CASINO (B&M, no air ball) is the *BEST* way to go, no doubt about it !!!

Ken
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: krist on May 20, 2016, 04:57:36 PM
Sure you should not trust them, they are just for mastering you skills I suppose)
Title: Re: Can we trust online live roulette???
Post by: Justin on May 21, 2016, 09:46:26 PM
Celtic Casino all the way!! 

Agree totally, you can play with play money in the live section, not many casinos offer that.  :good: