Preface: Fellow poster and friend Ulysses @ VLS suggested a system like this. As a favor and tribute, here it is :)
Procedure: Consider the numbers on the left (European Wheel only). On the response of the newest spin, you play the corresponding two numbers on the right. Repeat for up to 10 spins or until in profit, flat-bet. After 18 consecutive misses, end session.
0: 13,20 1: 7,9 2: 16,6 3: 17,24 4: 0,6 5: 9,2 6: 15,31
7: 7,19 8: 28,5 9: 19,17 10: 25,9 11: 1,31 12:23,2 13: 22,19
14: 6,35 15: 22,16 16: 9,0 17: 14,23 18: 1,17
19: 31,2 20: 5,33 21: 22,32 22: 25,20 23: 11,36 24: 35,8
25: 21,27 26: 13,15 27: 17,20 28: 29,1 29: 18,36 30: 16,33
31: 34,28 32: 0,4 33: 7,21 34: 28,12 35: 10,3 36: 4,7
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Progression suggestion: "Up as you win"--after a hit, increase bet one unit on each number for up to five spins. If all five attempts miss, lessen all bets by two units each per number.
Bankroll suggestion: 200 units per one unit bet
Win-Target/Stop-Loss: +10%/-10% of original bankroll per session.
Thanks Proofreader my old chum, though I'm a bit lost. Take the first set of numbers in your chart 0: 13, 20 and what do they mean?
Same here
I'm guessing he means that if the zero appears you bet on the 13 & 20. If that loses then whatever number came up, you bet on the
corresponding numbers in his chart etc,
You're welcome Uly :thumbsup:
Quote from: nusantara on March 25, 2012, 12:07:46 PM
...if the zero appears you bet on the 13 & 20. If that loses then whatever number came up, you bet on the
corresponding numbers in his chart etc,
Correct
Uly One seems to work on both Live Wheels and Real Money RNG from early tests.
i don't think it makes any sense, Proof. why would 2 numbers follow another? they have no connection.
Quote from: iggiv on March 25, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
I don't think it makes any sense, Proof. why would 2 numbers follow another? they have no connection.
The two numbers
did follow another number based on hundreds of spins from Real Money RNG & Dublinbet Live Wheels (I've been working on this for months.)
Proof, my friend. It is not universal roulette behaviour. It may be some bias, or it may be some coincidence. But in no way it is gonna work on EVERY wheel for a long run (I don't even wanna talk about RNG anymore).
sorry, it may work on some wheels, but in no way it will work on every wheel
Quote from: iggiv on March 25, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
sorry, it may work on some wheels, but in no way it will work on every wheel
This is why I would advise everyone to test with fun money or without playing with real money
first.
Here are sessions at Lucky Creek Online Casino
(Real Money RNG Euro) & Dublinbet Palace Euro Wheel Roulette #1
Hello,
I can assure you that this a non-starter.
This is one of the biggest and most common fallacy around Roulette tables. <<After such and such number, you play...whatever.>> There is absolutely no truth in this.
insider
Nice to meet you insidebet. I assure you the results shown are real.
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Here is a session at Lucky Creek and Three Dice RNG Real Money online casinos.
Here is another session at Dublinbet Dublin Wheels Euro #1 & #2
Lot of negativity from other members and that's to be expected when a strategy seems improbable. Most would never give it a second glance let alone test it. Me, I will test it, as this is my forte. I look for repeat number patterns and win more this way than any other method. If these are patterns you notice often Proof, then I'm gonna test em. And might add some to my own systems.
Quote from: iggiv on March 25, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Proof, my friend. It is not universal roulette behaviour. It may be some bias, or it may be some coincidence. But in no way it is gonna work on EVERY wheel for a long run.
Iggiv, you said it might be some bias and everyone says wheels don't emit bias anymore as they are checked daily. But I believe the bias comes from the dealer not the wheel. Why, because the dealer always spins the the ball from the last place the ball dropped. So there is near constant procedure the dealer follows. This must have some consequence in the outcome of future spins even without factoring in all the physics of motion and speed etc. That's why I don't dismiss off hand a system like this.
Ulysses,
You are very wrong. This <<system>> was tested way before you were born. I tested similar methods as a curiosity. I as said: one huge fallacy. Also, you want to know if something wins??? Fine . Test it for 100 000 spins. Then you know. Not 236 spins. This beginners stuff, obviously.
Insider
@ Insidebet: right now Uly One is looking good and I'm sticking with it :)
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Sessions at Dublinbet Palace Euro Wheels 1 & 2 and Celtic Euro Live Wheel
OK
Just played a short session. 3/27/12 Juri spin starting with 3,388,631
won on the tenth spin
won again two spins later.
Wife is yelling.....
Who knows?
Sam
Quote from: insidebet on March 26, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
Ulysses,
You are very wrong. This <<system>> was tested way before you were born. I tested similar methods as a curiosity. I as said: one huge fallacy. Also, you want to know if something wins??? Fine . Test it for 100 000 spins. Then you know. Not 236 spins. This beginners stuff, obviously.
Insider
Your wrong, earlier today I won €2000 from a small €130 deposit (not bragging ;) , just been honest). Playing this type of strategy, milking the repeats, predicting the outcomes and betting slightly progressively for possible winners, of which there were a plenty. I used some parts of Proofreaders system to gain a few wins 8) , though I wouldn't play his whole system before testing at length over a good period of time. As for any proposed strategy, you can only gain confidence in it if you test it.
A test for a 100,000 spins? ::) HORSE SHIT. You'll never find anything that ends on that last hundred thousandth spin that means anything. It's completely meaningless to expect any strategy to hold up continuously gaining and gaining. Even if it did the next new 100,000 spins are unlikely to be similar. Try using your intelligence, bet higher on the the peaks, lower on the troughs, manage your staking carefully, I repeat, manage your staking very carefully.
And for any one else who plays the inside bets, that if they notice patterns of numbers, make a note of them and see if they last the distance over time, and post e'm up here for others to see.
<<the next 100 000 spins are unlikely be to similar as the last 100 000>>. That is the whole idea behind testing over a very long period of time: you get all the highs and all the lows.
It goes to show that you don't know too much about statistics and maths in general.
You bet the highs hard and the lows with smaller bets? Now this is real HORSHIT!!! The thing is: you only know in hindsight when a streak is ending. If we knew in advance, we would ALL be very rich. Clearly not the case.
Anyways, don't leave your job hoping to make it rich. Just won't happen.
Insider
...so I continued on after the wife left.
Hit on the fourth and again on the sixteenth after that.
Then I went on a long loosing streak, probably about fifty bets.
Wife came home and had to leave.
This is what I dislike about these long, drawn-out systems. Mr j's was that way. Hours and hours, it seemed.
But, I'll continue looking at it.
Sam
testing is a waste of time, what if different numbers come out in the casino.
It is true; testing is a total waste of time.
OK, I took a further look at the Uly.
First win on the 27th spin.
Second win eight later.
Third win four later.
Last win of my trot twelve later.
51 spins = 70 units.
Geez, if only testing proved something!
TwoCatSam
Hello TwoCat welcome back :thumbsup:
Thanks for testing the system.
Thanks, Proof!
Another test. I dug up a 531 spin record from Dublin from two or three years ago. During this trot, there were six more hits than math would dictate. Some were very close together and one was after fifty some losses.
I just don't know..........
Sam
However, I am still testing the Lanky Divisor. If it were applied to those numbers, you would win going away. I fully realize the next numbers picked could show a totally different result.
What would be wonderful would be a computer program which would do the calculations so one could bet six to ten games at once.
"What would be wonderful would be a computer program which would do the calculations so one could bet six to ten games at once."--TwoCat
I bet Ophis or Mad Max could create such a program.
I tested this using numbers from random.org, I lost about 600 units an average for every 10K spins.
I have some variations though from original post.
1. I used flat bets and max stop point was -20 units
2. I played continuous 10K spins without any session management.
Pl don't keep your hopes high.
Allin, try a modified martingale progression: add one unit/number after 10 consecutive misses.
Hi,
I tried it with actual numbers dowloaded from Casinos with "Roulette Extreme"
Sometimes in the short it works and most of the times it fails !!
Here ist a script if you want to try yourself :
Maybe you want to modify and test it out.
Regards
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system "A Two-Number Predictor System"
method "main"
begin
While number 0 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [13, 20]
end
While number 1 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [7, 9]
end
While number 2 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [16, 6]
end
While number 3 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [17, 24]
end
While number 4 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [0, 6]
end
While number 5 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [9, 2]
end
While number 6 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [15, 31]
end
While number 7 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [7, 19]
end
While number 8 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [28, 5]
end
While number 9 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [19, 17]
end
While number 10 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [25, 9]
end
While number 11 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [1, 31]
end
While number 12 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [23, 2]
end
While number 13 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [22, 19]
end
While number 14 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [6, 35]
end
While number 15 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [22, 16]
end
While number 16 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [9, 0]
end
While number 17 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [14, 23]
end
While number 18 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [1, 17]
end
While number 19 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [31, 2]
end
While number 20 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [5, 33]
end
While number 21 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [22, 32]
end
While number 22 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [25, 20]
end
While number 23 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [11, 36]
end
While number 24 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [35, 8]
end
While number 25 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [21, 27]
end
While number 26 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [13, 15]
end
While number 27 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [17, 20]
end
While number 28 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [29, 1]
end
While number 29 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [18, 36]
end
While number 30 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [16, 33]
end
While number 31 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [34, 28]
end
While number 32 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [0, 4]
end
While number 33 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [7, 21]
end
While number 34 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [28, 12]
end
While number 35 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [10, 3]
end
While number 36 has hit each time
begin
put 1 unit on list [4, 7]
end
end
Hello rayhd63 welcome to the Forum.
First off, Uly One is to be played in 10 spin sessions. Change wheels or wait 20+ spins on the same wheel (30+ minute break) between sessions.
Second, there is a win-target/stop-loss recommendation: +10%/-10% of the original bankroll per session.