Guys,it will be hard for you to accept this,but you are far away from the truth.If anyone wanna know the truth about electronic roulettes,how they work, reply here,or pm on my mail.Its normaly to think that im joking you,but i will explain you everything for free.
Btw im new to this website/forum.I made this acc just to help to everyone for free.I made over 800.000 euros in the casinos in Macedonia.
Now im banned from playing electronic roulettes in Senator clubs and other casinos.If any1 is interested reply here.
I'm intrested about electronic rouletts. And i would like to know how they work.
Thanks...
ok... please continue:) you got my attention
I'm interested about electronic roulette's.
I would like to know how they work.
Thanks...
My email address is: jrhelp007@yahoo.com
John
Ok first of all,i wanna say hello to every1,becouse im new to this forum.I will tell you first my story,how i begin,and how everything started,how i discovered how it works and how can be beaten.Im 25 y old now .I started playing electronic roulettes with another friend since February 2005,in Skopje the capital city of Macedonia.In that time there were only major casinos,with live dealers and only 4 automated electronic roulettes in the town,and all of them were Alfastreet RK8(those are Slovenian machines ) which are the most popular on Balkan and maybe in Europe too.On the begining i was not going so often,but after 2-3 months i started going almost every day 3=5 hours per day,and i spended the rest of the day in study how this machine works.On the begining we started like every beginner,and we were mostly loosing more than winning.After 3 years of playing and study (in 2008) i started to hit 2-3 correct numbers in a row,without any missing.After a while,we were predicting 30-50 correct numbers directly, out of 140,and most of the others were in correct sector.Yes...numbers,not sectors,exact numbers,i will explain in details how we were doing this,and we can still do it,just not in our country.
Ok lets start.It will be hard for all of you to understand this,becouse you will need to throw everything you know in water,and accept this new way of thinking,and playing,in a shor period of time.Remember,this is a project that I worked on last 7-8 years,so for a beginner it will be hard as hell.I wanna say on the begining,that,everyone that tells u that there is an fixed method,a software,or any other tool,is wrong,or he lies you.The only thing,that you can use during roulette is your brain.I dont care if you will believe,or you wont believe in what I will speak in next posts,I know for myself that its a clear truth,and you have a choice to refuse it or accept it.Lets Go!
Many players(around 80% ) think that electronic roulette is beatable by predicting with mechanic eye AKA (cameras or other tools that predict where the ball will land )and they are also playing on this method which is totaly wrong,and it will destroy your bankroll with a speed of the light.The firs versions of automated electronic roulettes(which were released in 1998) were beatable on that way,but in next generation,they implemented anti-cheat system called Storm Simulator,which protects the roulette from cheating like using FF cameras and similar tools.So,how this simulator work?I will explain now.I guess you alredy expirienced this thing : The ball lands in your played sector(for example lets say Zero Spiel) and it jump like crazy,and go in opposite sector.Many peoples cry about this( I can say for sure 99% of the players) and they say "Look what the roulette is doing,is totaly rigged" .But,I guess,you also expirienced this,the ball falls down in the opposite sector,and the magnets are pulling to your sector,so you win.So why?Isnt just better for the machine to burn your bankroll,when the ball alredy falled in the opposite sector ?Why it needs to pull the ball up when the job is done?Thats the Storm Simulator that im talking about,his job is to avoid the use of electronic tools such as cameras that predict where the ball will land.Second thing,the machine pick up the number by sofisticated algorithms(which are creating RNG numbers,and you will see how the human brain can be connected with those numbers,I know that it sound a bit crazy and SCIFI,but its true),so the number is chosen before the spin,so the spin,is only visual simulation.Remember,the number is chosen before the spin.Many peoples think that first the ball lands,than the machine reads the number,which is not true..Think about this,If the electronic roulette have different speed of the rotor and ball,for each number,than it will be measurable with cameras and other tools,and they cant provide different speed for any number becouse its too hard and 1mm can change total traectory of the ball,and it wont hit in the correct number which is choosed by the program.Thats the way why they implemented the Simulator.Under every number and diamond(I guess you know what is diamond) there is a magnet.The purpose of this magnet is to control the ball movement and to simulate the spin,and to take care of the ball for falling in the correctly chosen number by the RNG.To be more easy for understanding I will explain it on this way too : Lets say,number 26 is chosen by the RNG,the compressor throws the ball in the game,and the ball falls in down near number 10,so what the machine will do to hit the correctly chosen number?it will use the magnets,becouse the ball is in opposite number then the chosen one.SO remember,every mechanic method,every use of any kind of tool is simple fail,no matter do you believe or not,this is how it works.The first thing,when I earned those 800 000 euros before I was banned,I buyed an electronic roulette Alfastreet R8 for 25.000 euros,from Bulgaria.You know why I buyed this ?Just to be sure that im right.I was alredy winning everywhere,but in any case,I wanted to be sure in everything I discovered in last 7 years.I opened the machine,and now I know every bit of information about it,the whole principle of working.I supposed to be totaly correct with my thinking.The last place where I played was in Hamburg Casino in Germany,where I was on vacation,becouse I cant play in Macedonia.In next post I will explain you how to use ur visual system and the logicof the brain and the table of results,so you can conncect to the RNG.There is no infinite and constant betting system that will allow you to win always,in fact,it will get worse and worse.The secret is in your brain,if you use it propertly you can win 9/10 times large amounts of monney.Today I can hit for example 3 of 10 spins in correct number which is 3x36 =x108 payout.In next post I will explain how.Thanks and sorry for my shitty english xD
Hi, I'm interested in your findings and would like to learn more about this.
My email address is dean111@gmail.com
Thanks!
brucenelson@webmail.co.za
very interesting, please go on.
Memo - buying an Alpha street is a big move but paid off big time from what you say. Where to now with your 800k Euros ?
What do you know about other auto wheels ? Interblock Organic has caused a lot of forum debate in recent weeks. Many maintain that these auto wheels are fair. I've been saying that they are RGN EGMs (electronic gaming machines) and they all legally cheat players ?
Take your time with your English writing. Remember to make spacing paragraphs within your sentence groups, it's much easier to read. Check your spelling & grammar.
Proof read everything you write to make sure everything makes sense in English as best you can, not in your own language.
Hope to hear more from you soon.
I think your English is good.
Quote from: memorabilis1234 on July 10, 2013, 02:22:54 PM
Under every number and diamond(I guess you know what is diamond) there is a magnet.The purpose of this magnet is to control the ball movement and to simulate the spin,and to take care of the ball for falling in the correctly chosen number by the RNG.
Memo,
You know, it will take some sort of documentation to substantiate that statement in order for me to even think about taking this discussion seriously.
I will continue to read this thread with interest and hope to see more "facts" in the future.
AD
would a magnet work. I have never seen a steel ball on a roulette wheel.
Pins - Synthetic core, steel spherical subskin with synthetic outer skin or similar ? Rare earths now allow smaller & more powerful magnets. Maybe they have a small series of micro magnetic rods within the ball ? Way back in science at school I remember 1 set of magnetic fields attract & the other fields repel. Say negative & positive.
With a series of powerful elecro mini magnets behind each ball pocket & probably the ball track too they can surely maniplate the magnetic fields either positive or negative & so direct the ball as per program.
Wheel maker Cammergh do similar with air. Their site talks about the features on their airball wheels like random rotor speeds & discrete air jet holes in the ball track & wheel pockets. This now allows them to have bets after the ball is spun.
Casinos make a lot of extra money from dealer wheel last bets. This now lets the casino make even more money from auto wheels. Wheel trackers now fail on these because of the manipulation features. They even say where the ball would have landed without the speed control & how it lands on the opposite side with it active.
They even have a short video demonstrating this feature, Cammergh - worth a look.
Most live B & M auto wheels I've seen have a much larger wheel, pockets & ball. Can you name one B & M auto wheel that matches a dealer wheel & ball in size ?
As I've said on other threads auto wheels are EGMs (electronic gaming machines) with RNG player interactive manipulation. They aren't real deal random spun dealer wheels. This is official classification worldwide by gaming authorities. Every gaming device has a classification. Slots/poker machines head the EGM/RNG list.
Auto wheels are designed to look like a dealer random spun wheel to win your heart & mind. Once they do that then the last step is to win your money. Not everyone loses but more lose than win. This is nothing new with all gambling as most people bet dumb & DONATE their money to the venue regularly.
Quote from: pins on July 14, 2013, 01:29:43 AM
would a magnet work. I have never seen a steel ball on a roulette wheel.
it may be inside. But anyway such kind of deception...Some Croatians say that their roulette wheels have magnets legally, and everybody knows it.
but using magnets...weird anyway.
Quote from: iggiv on July 14, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
Do roulette tables have magnets. It may be inside. But anyway such kind of roulette table magnets deception...Some Croatians say that their roulette wheels have magnets legally, and everybody knows it.
but using magnets...weird anyway.
Magnets are totaly legal.As i said before,the number is choosen before the spin,so magnets are controling the ball speed and movement to correctly hit the choosen number by the RNG (for example if the ball is falling in number 10,and the RNG choosed number 0,the magnets are pulling the ball up to number 0,on this way,the adrenalin of the players is increased xD )
Quote from: pins on July 14, 2013, 01:29:43 AM
would a magnet work. I have never seen a steel ball on a roulette wheel.
in 90% of the cases the ball is Teflonic,and in 10 % is created by bones of elephant(lol i know it sounds like a joke)with liquid metal in it.You can google it :)
Hi again guys,I was on vacation these few days,thats why I did not posted anything.I need to make more than 15 posts minimum to explain my method/formula for winning,and I will do that tommorow,becouse im too tired now.I will notice again,im doing this for your good guys,thats why I said in previous post-you need to take the first step into faith,becouse as I can see some peoples are pessimistic.The formula is not a fixed idea,it can be used in several deep aplications,and its not a constant system.Also its not a fixed betting method,becouse fixed betting methods are complete fail,as you all know automated and half-automated wheels have player recognition systems.As I alredy said before,the only thing that could help you during playing roulette,is your own mind,believe it,or not.I was thinking on same way as many of you when i was losing monney,that electronic roulettes are rigged.Rigged roulette doesn't exist,thats for sure.You need to change the way of thinking,becouse everything that happens is a game in your head and the rng,if you use ur visual system and logic of the brain you will win.Almost every electronic roulette is CEA certificated and controled by the Gambling Guru,so it cant be rigged.Remember,losing your monney is by your own fault,if you understand my principles correctly ( and it will be hard as hell, becouse I need to paint some of them,its not possible to explain them with words and with mathematical patters,you need to have a picture in your mind how it works,I know that sounds crazy) I can say that you will win big amounts of monney everytime,and you can practice them for free on online casinos in the begining.What the eyes cant see,the mind can see.Cya tommorow :)
Auto wheels don't cheat or do they ? roulette wheel magnets
Due to copyright patents various wheel makers use different methods to control the rotor & ball. Usually either magnets (as MEMO mentions about Alpha street) or air.
Here's some extracts from wheel maker Cammerghs site on their RRS (random rotor speed) Automatic wheels. Easily accessed folks at Cammergh.com.
"The ball is launched by a puff of air. The ball is then met by a random blast of air from discrete air jets mounted in the ball track. The winning numbers are recognised
securely by three discrete in rim laser sensors." DISCRETE here means they make it virtually unnoticeable to most players.
From a live video demo. section of the RSS function on the same Cammergh site. "The RSS has a different outcome to what it would otherwise have been."
Then they explain RSS active vs non active with the wheel always set to 20 rpm for the tests. "In the RSS deceleration test the ball lands in pocket 20 instead of pocket 4". 20 & 4 are on opposite sides to each other on the 37 number wheel.
"In the acceleration test the ball lands in pocket 9 instead of pocket 36". These 2 numbers are about 1/3 of the wheel apart.
Also of note is that it seems that with precise wheel/ball speed control the machine can actually spin up chosen numbers ?
They also mention they can keep the bets active after the ball is spun, as in live dealer, to pick up 20% more income from final bet plays. After no more bets kicks in then RSS activates & so the little white ball goes where the casino wants it to be.
They say RSS neutralises high tech. electronic wheel clockers because they sneakily change the wheel/ball speeds after the betting is closed.
Smart Live Casino looks like they have Cammergh auto wheels for those games. Probably the live dealer standard true random wheel as well ?
Cammergh already has on the market RSS dealer push button start wheels for combined on line & live play. The ball is then never touched by the dealer.
I'm not sure what casinos would be allowed to run these type of wheels ?
Dublinbet already do this on their open standard wheel & hopefully still true random & not RSS ?
Quote from: ausguy on July 15, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
Auto wheels don't cheat or do they ?
Due to copyright patents various wheel makers use different methods to control the rotor & ball. Usually either magnets (as MEMO mentions about Alpha street) or air.
Here's some extracts from wheel maker Cammerghs site on their RRS (random rotor speed) Automatic wheels. Easily accessed folks at Cammergh.com.
"The ball is launched by a puff of air. The ball is then met by a random blast of air from discrete air jets mounted in the ball track. The winning numbers are recognised
securely by three discrete in rim laser sensors." DISCRETE here means they make it virtually unnoticeable to most players.
From a live video demo. section of the RSS function on the same Cammergh site. "The RSS has a different outcome to what it would otherwise have been."
Then they explain RSS active vs non active with the wheel always set to 20 rpm for the tests. "In the RSS deceleration test the ball lands in pocket 20 instead of pocket 4". 20 & 4 are on opposite sides to each other on the 37 number wheel.
"In the acceleration test the ball lands in pocket 9 instead of pocket 36". These 2 numbers are about 1/3 of the wheel apart.
Also of note is that it seems that with precise wheel/ball speed control the machine can actually spin up chosen numbers ?
They also mention they can keep the bets active after the ball is spun, as in live dealer, to pick up 20% more income from final bet plays. After no more bets kicks in then RSS activates & so the little white ball goes where the casino wants it to be.
They say RSS neutralises high tech. electronic wheel clockers because they sneakily change the wheel/ball speeds after the betting is closed.
Smart Live Casino looks like they have Cammergh auto wheels for those games. Probably the live dealer standard true random wheel as well ?
Cammergh already has on the market RSS dealer push button start wheels for combined on line & live play. The ball is then never touched by the dealer.
I'm not sure what casinos would be allowed to run these type of wheels ?
Dublinbet already do this on their open standard wheel & hopefully still true random & not RSS ?
Well yeah,as i said before the number is choosen before the spin,the problem is,many peoples think that they know the correct number,and they are far away from the correct number,becouse they use fixed betting systems.The spin is only visual simulation,to increase the adrenalin.I will explain in my future post how the players loose their monney,and how the game is beating players.
Quote from: ausguy on July 15, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
Auto wheels don't cheat or do they ?
Due to copyright patents various wheel makers use different methods to control the rotor & ball. Usually either magnets (as MEMO mentions about Alpha street) or air.
Here's some extracts from wheel maker Cammerghs site on their RRS (random rotor speed) Automatic wheels. Easily accessed folks at Cammergh.com.
"The ball is launched by a puff of air. The ball is then met by a random blast of air from discrete air jets mounted in the ball track. The winning numbers are recognised
securely by three discrete in rim laser sensors." DISCRETE here means they make it virtually unnoticeable to most players.
From a live video demo. section of the RSS function on the same Cammergh site. "The RSS has a different outcome to what it would otherwise have been."
Then they explain RSS active vs non active with the wheel always set to 20 rpm for the tests. "In the RSS deceleration test the ball lands in pocket 20 instead of pocket 4". 20 & 4 are on opposite sides to each other on the 37 number wheel.
"In the acceleration test the ball lands in pocket 9 instead of pocket 36". These 2 numbers are about 1/3 of the wheel apart.
Also of note is that it seems that with precise wheel/ball speed control the machine can actually spin up chosen numbers ?
They also mention they can keep the bets active after the ball is spun, as in live dealer, to pick up 20% more income from final bet plays. After no more bets kicks in then RSS activates & so the little white ball goes where the casino wants it to be.
They say RSS neutralises high tech. electronic wheel clockers because they sneakily change the wheel/ball speeds after the betting is closed.
Smart Live Casino looks like they have Cammergh auto wheels for those games. Probably the live dealer standard true random wheel as well ?
Cammergh already has on the market RSS dealer push button start wheels for combined on line & live play. The ball is then never touched by the dealer.
I'm not sure what casinos would be allowed to run these type of wheels ?
Dublinbet already do this on their open standard wheel & hopefully still true random & not RSS ?
Ah i forgot to say,every wheel is working on same way,no manufactor doesnt matter,on Smart Live im hitting 15-30 correct numbers directly, from 50 spins,same as on Supercasino.Both wheels are manufactored by Cammegh.
How can magnets manipulate the ball? for one, roulette balls are made from Teflon or ivorine these days. Any professional roulette player would know there is no magnets being used on wheels - it has been said so many times, the zero is already the cheat they need.
Red - Any of those auto wheel balls don't look like live dealer teflon or ivorine balls. The most obvious thing is that they are much larger. This thread is not about live dealer standard wheels only electronic roulette..
Did you read Memos 1st post where he said he bought an Alphastreet R8 auto wheel from Bulgaria for 25k Euros ? With tthe R8 he says he checked every aspect of that machine. He does mention how the magnets control the ball movement.
Perhaps a careful read of the posts here would see you not jumping to such hasty conclusions ?
As i said before i alredy buyed Alfastreet R8.Yes,there are roulette table magnets inside,and compressor aswell.
Can we see pictures of it/them items them please?
Not as proof per se, just out of mechanical interest. :wub:
And would help others to see what goes on behind the wheel.
Thank you.
Chris
I will buy new usb cable for my mobile,becouse thisone is totaly destroyed,and i will shot some photos these few days.I have a couple of winnings shoted in my pc,here are some of them:
Thisone is on alfastreet R8,the win is around 3200 euros(our currency here in Macedonia is Denar, 61 denar =1 euro):
nolinks://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mcx348&s=5
The second picture is taken on Goldclub UFO roulette,the win is around 8000 euros (it shows 45800,but is 458 000+ repetition played so its around 488 000, becouse on goldclub roulettes it doesnt show one zero is is cutted,for example it shows 1000 euros like 100 euros,60 000 as 6000)
nolinks://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=167qwdg&s=5
I will upload more
Mobile phones are allowed in casinos in Croatia??
they are not allowed anywhere,but who cares i just took few shots.
Hi mem,
You have us all waiting in anticipation. When does the airball annihilation lesson begin?
Hi memorabilis1234,
When are you planning to reveal the system?
John
While you're all waiting have a browse on the Cammergh site, they even have a video demo of how they manipulate the wheel speed to spin numbers well away from where it should drop.
They also mention air jet holes in the ball track. Do auto wheels cheat players ? You betcha, as sure as the sun comes up in the morning.
Is memorabilis1234, winding us all up, when he said he had "Bought" a wheel for his own enjoyment at home?
That's how I understood what he said!
Therefore, why can he not take pictures of what he has at home!!
And then show me the magnets!!
C
Quote from: chrisbis on July 15, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Is memorabilis1234, winding us all up, when he said he had "Bought" a wheel for his own enjoyment at home?
That's how I understood what he said!
Therefore, why can he not take pictures of what he has at home!!
And then show me the magnets!!
C
I think his reputation rests on this point Chris - let's wait till the guy gets hold of a new usb!
Quote from: ausguy on July 15, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
Red - Any of those auto wheel balls don't look like live dealer teflon or ivorine balls. The most obvious thing is that they are much larger. This thread is not about live dealer standard wheels only electronic roulette..
Did you read Memos 1st post where he said he bought an Alphastreet R8 auto wheel from Bulgaria for 25k Euros ? With tthe R8 he says he checked every aspect of that machine. He does mention how the magnets control the ball movement.
Perhaps a careful read of the posts here would see you not jumping to such hasty conclusions ?
hey ausguy. I am fully aware of these auto wheels and know how they work. depending on the model, the wheel could have multiple balls being used. The balls are blown/released at various speeds and the ball will decel naturally. As for the rotor, on some auto wheels like cammegh 360, the speed of the rotor will change during a spin.
if you believe magnets are being used to manipulate the ball on any roulette wheel, clearly you are missing something.
(since when were metal balls being used on roulette wheels?)
Why would anyone spend millions of dollars developing a wheel loaded with jets and magnets just to make the ball land in a pocket chosen by an RNG?
That is totally ridiculous. Why not just let the ball land randomly or let the RNG deliver the number without the entire ball spinning bullshite! Both are the same anyway.
I've walked away with good profits the last handful of times I played airball at Star City. Why did they let me do that? Why didn't they take my money?
I said before...its your choice,you can believe it,or you can simply refuse my way,in any case i earned tons of monney playing on my way,thats why im banned,and i cant play electronic roulette in my country.I heard that some of you are selling beting methods and systems,and i knew that when i will start with posting,many of you will criticize me.Its normaly,it will affect on your bussines,but peoples wanna see the truth.I dont have any benefit of telling you,im doing this for free as good will.Every mechanical method of betting,is simple fail,and it dont work,if you have friends who work for casino as programmers,they will tell you the same.
Quote from: ReDsQuaD on July 15, 2013, 07:57:18 PM
hey ausguy. I am fully aware of these auto wheels and know how they work. depending on the model, the wheel could have multiple balls being used. The balls are blown/released at various speeds and the ball will decel naturally. As for the rotor, on some auto wheels like cammegh 360, the speed of the rotor will change during a spin.
if you believe magnets are being used to manipulate the ball on any roulette wheel, clearly you are missing something.
(since when were metal balls being used on roulette wheels?)
Nope,you are wrong my friend,everyone think that magnets were implemented for cheating the player.Yes they were on roulettes without RNG,on wheels without electronic betting tables.On electronic roulette they work as SPP controlers of the ball,its totaly legal,if you have some friend who works for casino as programmer ask him how they work,just ask him what is SPP controller in the wheel.
My skype name is : memorabilis.uniq,you can add me there so i can explain you everything there,becouse it will be hard to explain it by posts,and i will be criticized by many haters.
I have Skype requested you.
Cheers
chrisbis36
Electronic roulette numbers are delivered by RNG. It doesn't matter what the animation is doing, it's just animation, no magnets needed at all.
A huge library of video clips with many videos of the ball landing in each pocket is all that's needed to satisfy the gambler's "adrenalin rush".
Exactly,whole spin is animation
hi memo, please continue :)
Red - If on Cammergh you say the ball will slow naturally, then what are the discrete air jet holes in the ball track for ?
It's apparent that you haven't viewed Cammerghs demo video & related promo. scribes. Cammergh appears to only use air & rotor control to manipulate the results.
What do you say about their manipulation - Off 4B & on 20B and opposite sides of the wheel.
As I've previously said that due to copyright patents Auto wheel makers can't all use the same designs for their player cheating wheels. So some have magnetic assist others just air. If I was a multi millionaire I'd buy 1 of each make of auto wheel & prove once & for all what they do. I'll bet makers restrict who can buy their wheels, after all they don't want crims setting up casinos or forum members.
In a recent post Memo said the Alphastreet machine had both magnets & air. He could tell us if the ball can stick to a magnet ?
Full metal balls no (I never said there was ?) but a steel shell sphere or ferrite powder encased in a white synthetic outer casing technically possible & 99.99% sure is an actuality.
So now only those who have Skype get to find out the truth to this system? Aw man!
Chrisbis - Memo said he bought the machine to examine how it operates not to play at home. With 800,000 won 25k hardly drains the wallet.
He will show all in due time, lighting as well as a good camera is essential USB too, we all know that.
Quote from: buffalowizard
So now only those who have Skype get to find out the truth to this system? Aw man!
Skype is free to get.
I only noticed yesterday, that you have to pay if you want to share screens now, which has changed since Microsoft bought the Skype software/company..........Typical!
I suppose they have to make their money back somehow!
@ausguy..........
U mean he NEVER spins it at home?
He NEVER gets it out during parties? (no pun intended admins!) lol
and
He never gets to practice what he preaches?
Hard to believe, so for now, I will take it as read................until told otherwise! :-X
What I do find hard to believe, is a guy who made 800k has not got a camera, to take a simple picture of his wheel, that is siting at the back of his garage, gathering dust! lol
I bet his children have got one! (assuming he has kids!)
Or his misses has!!
All very odd.
I will await confirmation, that I have just talked out of my arse, and total misunderstood what he meant by:-
"I have bought a wheel"
Maybe he owns a casino!!!!!!!!! (I did wonder!)
(Maybe it was a tyre!!?!!)
Bombus - Auto wheels - control the play & control the income. That's the reality. Depending on the moving average earnings the game program decides who wins & who loses. They use bet avoidance assessment as part of the program. Not everybody loses in fact I've seen some big wins on those machines at THE STAR.
What they lose today they pick up tomorrow, the next day, next week. Overall they never lose. As EGMs they only have to comply with average player % returns just like pokies/slots (also EGMs).
You were lucky to get some wins on your STAR plays. Did you have any losses on that auto wheel ? What's your view on a long session play with a fat BR on that wheel you played or similar ? Have you played auto wheel recently ?
Have you had a look at the Cammergh demo on their site ?
Chrisbis - Don't get too excited Memo is only 25 & now of two minds about continuing on the forum. He PMd me expressing his stress as English is not easy for him.
So I suggest all critics should ease down a bit on him and give him a chance like we should with all newbies. For me so far he's done NO WRONG.
@ausguy.....
I never said he did.............only 25 eh............ok, lets give the newbie a chance to express himself.
I remember someone jumping down my throat when I first joined the On-Line Roulette Forum community,
so I can imagine.
Stressful.....for sure.
I will await ...... :)
cheers
Quote from: ausguy on July 16, 2013, 06:32:33 AM
Bombus - Auto wheels - control the play & control the income. That's the reality. Depending on the moving average earnings the game program decides who wins & who loses. They use bet avoidance assessment as part of the program. Not everybody loses in fact I've seen some big wins on those machines at THE STAR.
What they lose today they pick up tomorrow, the next day, next week. Overall they never lose. As EGMs they only have to comply with average player % returns just like pokies/slots (also EGMs).
You were lucky to get some wins on your STAR plays. Did you have any losses on that auto wheel ?
I've won 8 of the last 10 sessions on the auto wheel. Could be luck I suppose.
What's your view on a long session play with a fat BR on that wheel you played or similar ? Have you played auto wheel recently ?
I would not play long sessions on the auto wheel because the pace is too fast for most of my strategies. I can do it for an hour or so, but eventually the pace gets me and I start making a few mistakes or don't get the bets down in time. That's when I quit, unless I've won enough before that.
Have you had a look at the Cammergh demo on their site ?
I have looked over the site, but can't find any video demo's. I'll have another look and see if I can spot them.
Cheers.
Quote from: memorabilis1234 on July 15, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
My skype name is : memorabilis.uniq,you can add me there so I can explain you everything there,becouse it will be hard to explain it by posts,and I will be criticized by many haters.
I added you to myskype. The name you provided comes up as:
memorabilis.uniq Noogard, Poland
John
Bombus & others- To find Cammergh demo on Cammergh.com - next to home window is product & click - should see wheels option & click - go to mercury 360 RRS & page should open. On that page is written info. & prompt to access demo. video.
sorry ausguy but you are talking out your rear.
As i said before,im doing this as good will.I explained everything to couple of guys on skype,they can reply here aswell.I know that some of you guys are selling systems,and i know that my knowledge will affect on your bussiness.I said before,i know exactly how those machines work,and i dont need to proove anything,the peoples who are interested how they work,i can explain them on skype for free,becouse here there are so many haters(pseudo posers).I dont benefit from this,im doing this simply for you.You can stay stucked whole life with those mechanical methods,and you will loose everything in your life,sadly but true.
Quote from: chrisbis on July 16, 2013, 06:22:44 AM
Skype is free to get.
I only noticed yesterday, that you have to pay if you want to share screens now, which has changed since Microsoft bought the Skype software/company..........Typical!
I suppose they have to make their money back somehow!
@ausguy..........
U mean he NEVER spins it at home?
He NEVER gets it out during parties? (no pun intended admins!) lol
and
He never gets to practice what he preaches?
Hard to believe, so for now, I will take it as read................until told otherwise! :-X
What I do find hard to believe, is a guy who made 800k has not got a camera, to take a simple picture of his wheel, that is siting at the back of his garage, gathering dust! lol
I bet his children have got one! (assuming he has kids!)
Or his misses has!!
All very odd.
I will await confirmation, that I have just talked out of my arse, and total misunderstood what he meant by:-
"I have bought a wheel"
Maybe he owns a casino!!!!!!!!! (I did wonder!)
(Maybe it was a tyre!!?!!)
You dont need to be so jelous,calm down.
Quote from: jrhelp007 on July 16, 2013, 11:47:48 PM
I added you to myskype. The name you provided comes up as:
memorabilis.uniq Noogard, Poland
John
as you know you are allowed change location on skype.
Quote from: chrisbis on July 16, 2013, 06:49:13 AM
@ausguy.....
I never said he did.............only 25 eh............ok, lets give the newbie a chance to express himself.
I remember someone jumping down my throat when I first joined the On-Line Roulette Forum community,
so I can imagine.
Stressful.....for sure.
I will await ...... :)
cheers
Sorry sir,you earned alot of monney,keep doing on your way.
Red - Your just a f......g trouble maker of the TROLL kind. I present absolute evidence of cheating auto wheels & all you can post is a cheap shot of the moronic kind.
I suspect you may be another losing auto wheel victim ? Best you don't say sorry then denigrate.
Your NON CONSTRUCTIVE posts are of zero value.
Memo - I sent you an email a day ago - Did you get it ?
Quote from: memorabilis1234 on July 17, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
as you know you are allowed change location on skype.
but WHY change your location...... ??? ??? ??? ???
Unless of course it IS your actual location. I'm sure a mod/admin could check the IP address 8)
Quote from: memorabilis1234 on July 17, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Sorry sir,you earned alot of monney,keep doing on your way.
I have no idea what you are on "young" man.......so I will leave you in others capable hands. :thumbsup:
(Hmmmm :boredom: Lack of spaces between words, called Sir yet again, thinking he knows me, hmmmmm
let me have a think now.........I must ask Sherlock Holmes to investigate......or Watson his side kick.....
has all the hallmarks of a repeat offender,
I say..............has all the hallmarks of a repeat.........................!) lol.
as usual, rather than looking at the substance of the presentation, its going straight to character assassination :nono:
I understand what Memo wanted to say how he plays. It is true that there are some connections between outcome numbers on airball machines, like 36-0 or 0-1 or 16-19, 26-29,... we call them as "school spins".
One year back was here in forum another guy from Macedonia with nick name "macedonianroulette1". Does anyone have his email address ?
Memo, PM me and we will talk more (also can talk in your language).
Quote from: ausguy on July 17, 2013, 11:56:31 AM
Memo - I sent you an email a day ago - Did you get it ?
yes,add me on skype my skype is memorabilis.uniq :)
MEMO ----- Skype - I don't have Skype, so where to now ? All you can say is YES to my question to you re: = if you got my email ?
Remember I replied in response to YOUR personal message to me ? All this is looks to be a ONE WAY STREET THINGO & heading for the TOO HARD FILE ?
When things get TOO HARD I don't waste any more time with it.
We have PMs = personal message facilities on this forum & you also have my email address. For me and most other forum members that's more than sufficient.
I don't see the value in diverting to SKYPE rather than using the forum ?
Your 1st posts started out with a BANG but now not much is happening ? Remember this is your thread so you need to KEEP LEADING THE WAY HERE ?
OR CLOSE IT DOWN ?
What's with the Poland Skype address ? I thought you were in Macedonia ?
@ ausguy
you should get Skype my friend.....
QuoteI don't see the value in diverting to SKYPE rather than using the forum ?
For one, its free, and for a big two, its like having a live chat facility like we have on some forums.
Its much quicker than PM's or email.
U get instant feedback, questions answered, etc.
+ U can exchange pictures, drawings, files, folders in seconds, and then discuss them.
Only one downside, is they charge you now, to share a screen. U do get a free trial of it, but for short time only (so many days)
Then U have to buy access to screen sharing.
It used to be free before
Windows Microsoft bought out Skype Co.
Its the future bro........................the wheel is coming round slowly! :pleasantry:
Chrisbis - I know what Skype is/does as a good mate of mine has had it for years. He has friends all over the place so it's A1 for his needs, especially the cheap phone calls both national & international.
Most of my friends & contacts don't have Skype so it's a poor value choice for me & I ain't "gunna" get it just to contact Memo.
As to Memo what do you think of my post to him Re: "The too hard basket" ? Seems like things on this forum thread have gone off the boil very rapidly with him ?
Memo's changed course & looks to be centring his discussions on Skype ?
As such things are pretty much "WITHERING ON THE VINE" ?
He PMed me & as I've already said he didn't reply to my email ? I was mainly offering English & grammar help to him for his future proposed expanded technicals on how to beat those auto wheels before he put them on the Forum.
I offered the help as I believed what he potentially said he had was a game changer ? Wasting time & effort for nil return is always disappointing.
....it certainly is...(there u go.....another chris agreeing with u.)
PM me, if that's Ur preferred M.O. if its anything interesting, and I might be able to lead you to the holly land.
don't Skype me tho, will U, don't want you take up valuable computer disc space with a system that works now! lol)
or email
chrisbis36@yahoo.com
(More Valium please nurse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.....he's beginning to come round!!!!!!!!!!)
C-bis - Shouldn't rush things you know I was 48 when Windows 95 came out. Then lashed out in 1999 & bought windows 98, my 1st computer experience.
I've had a Vista desktop PC since 2008.
Disc space ? I've always wondered what those round shiny things were, wow ! What next , video & speech links Worldwide ?
Thinking about a laptop & Windows 8. Do they have laptops in this holly land you might take me to ?
I would imagine with a name like that there'd be plenty of those plants with glossy, spiny - edged leaves & red berries ? Seen around a lot at Christmas.
If it was convenient when on the way to holly land could we also perhaps stop off and visit the Holy land ?
Re : the valium thing - reverse it & we have - More nurse than valium please.
Also revisit the VLS thread " only one subject dominating this forum" I made a post yesterday about selective sports betting. You may find it interesting ?
Success with that could even TAKE YOU TO THE PROMISED LAND OF NIRVANA.
@ausguy......re sports betting, and other stuff.......
I may do................will let you know. :wub:
BTW................I still run on Vista......and its all fine! :biggrin:
Shame the "
Reveal" function was never installed in here.......real shame...... :scratch_ones_head:
cause I
woulda hid this inside it:-
"Your obviously not an engineer, since":-
Quote
Re : the valium thing - reverse it & we have - More nurse than valium please.
.............
......the reverse of that is "
Less Nurse please Valium" or even....
"
Less Nurse sorry Valium"
The devil is always in the detail U know! :diablo:
Quote from: Franky on July 17, 2013, 06:29:33 PM
I understand what Memo wanted to say how he plays. It is true that there are some connections between outcome numbers on airball machines, like 36-0 or 0-1 or 16-19, 26-29,... we call them as "school spins".
One year back was here in forum another guy from Macedonia with nick name "macedonianroulette1". Does anyone have his email address ?
Memo, PM me and we will talk more (also can talk in your language).
add me on facebook,i send you my adress in pm
chrisbis - I'm a bit dazed & confused here (have the Led Zep song on via you tube as I type this).
I didn't understand your PM wooden concrete plastic ? sent back a reply ?
My Vista is ok too but want the latest if I get a lap top. " Engineer, since "?? wot dat bout boss man ?
re the nurse thing - the actual reverse is - .esrun esaelp muilav erom
Your absolutely correct about the devils always in the detail. Did you pick up on the holly/holy thing ?
It appears memo is done here and is just using this thread to drum up business through skype, etc?
That renders this thread useless for forum purposes so it will be locked then removed unless memo comes back here and renews the discussion in a positive way.
Cheers.
I saw the mention of magnets in roulette balls. From over 1000 players I know, not one has ever seriously reported it. Sure there have been some odd bounces, but that happens in roulette. But there certainly are wheels / balls that use magnets. If they were used, it would be in unregulated casinos in high roller rooms. No casino would risk a license worth hundreds of millions by using magnets. I'm not saying it isnt possible, but most of you wouldnt be betting $50,000 per spin. The casino is quite prepared to lose a few thousand here and there. It keeps people coming back anyway.
Quote from: Steve on July 18, 2013, 08:31:45 PM
I saw the mention of magnets in roulette balls. From over 1000 players I know, not one has ever seriously reported it. Sure there have been some odd bounces, but that happens in roulette. But there certainly are wheels / balls that use magnets. If they were used, it would be in unregulated casinos in high roller rooms. No casino would risk a license worth hundreds of millions by using magnets. I'm not saying it isnt possible, but most of you wouldnt be betting $50,000 per spin. The casino is quite prepared to lose a few thousand here and there. It keeps people coming back anyway.
Is there a website stating which countries / casino's are regulated / unregulated ??? ??? ??? ???
Sounds like it maybe handy to know......
See nolinks://nolinks.roulettecomputers.com/international-gaming-authorities/
The list isnt complete. But if its not listed there, theres a good change gambling is not regulated in the target country.
Steve - What's your view on RRS random rotor speeds & air jet holes in the ball track ? The Cammergh site demonstrates this on their Mercury 360 RRS model.
Discreet is the word they use when describing the manipulation. The human eye/brain can't detect the subtle changes in speed = deception = game/set/match.
Dealer spun wheels in casinos I know of are, as always, still (hopefully) random results devices.
This thread is about elecronic wheels. As they are EGMs (elect. gaming mach.) and they can & do legally manipulate the spin outcomes. It would be a futile exercise complaining to any gaming regulator as these auto wheel games always comply with the rules.
They (Cammergh) don't need magnets when they can easily control things with compressed air & ultra accurate rotor speed motors.
Other makers may have to use magnetic assist due to patent risk issues ? Auto wheel balls generally are noticeably larger than those on dealer spun wheels.
Generally so too are the auto wheels.
Cammergh now has roulette wheels that have both ball & wheel speed control which allows after spin betting (auto wheel). They also have an option for a dealer table model to launch the ball with a button press only. They seem to have all bases covered where the can cater to both regulated (the ususal random spun wheel) & unregulated casinos.
Cruise ships with casinos, are they unregulated because they can open play in International waters ?
All the on line casinos I've seen/played on are regulated. My view is that regulated casinos far & away outweigh unregulated joints ?
World wide anti criminal/anti money laundering measure. Always ID with on line withdrawals & wins over $10k at my local casino here in OZ land.
Cammergh says its RRS feature now makes electronic tracking redundant, mainly relevant to the auto wheels.
1. There are different versions of 'RRS', not just used by Cammegh. Some make almost no difference to accuracy of computers and vb because the designers dont understand what makes roulette predictable. Other versions are very tough and generally avoided for "prediction after ball release" methods like vb and computers. They may know the wheels arent completely unbeatable... the technology is more of a deterrent. Hint: The wheel designers dont understand there are specific speed ranges and variations that will make no difference, and some that will make all the difference. How do you know what is what? It depends on factors that are different on every wheel, like ball, ball track, dominant diamonds. Current RRS just randomizes without much thought or understanding.
2. Not all RRS versions affect methods with predictions before ball release. How? I'll leave that one alone. With non-traditional processes, computers can apply a similar method but it involves many more spins than usual computer application. The more difficult wheels may help protect casinos from traditional advantage play, but considering the lost trust from players, the casino actually stands to lose more with RRS than without. Cammegh doesn't say this on their site. Instead they say players dont notice, but they do. The rotor speed changes are being noticed - many players who arent even my players report it and perceive it as cheating casinos that cant be trusted. Many auto wheels are viewed this way too.
3. The same kind of manipulation can be done with the ball, usually via air compressors on auto wheels. Ive seen it done with magnets too, advertising it to still be random because the magnets let the ball roll naturally after a random number of revolutions. This is not as effective in randomizing the spin results as they appear to think.
4. No gaming laws in international waters.
5. Unregulated casinos can still be as fair and honest as regulated casinos. No difference. All legalized stealing from people who cant afford to lose.
6. The money-laundering excuse is more about taxation, control, all while tracking people that take the casinos soft-earned cash
No doubt wheel designers are getting smarter. And they're learning a real physical wheel = predictable, and RNG is unpredictable. So now they are merging the RNG with the trust of real physical wheels. From feedback I get, sure it is bad for advantage players to significant extent, but worse for casinos and the trust they lose.
It may be worthwhile to spread the word about it so casinos are forced to give us natural and fair games, not RNG assisted theft. They will eventually understand being fair will be better for professional players, and them. the majority of players wouldnt have a clue about RRS, but enough do to make them overall lose money. APs are too few to be a serious threat, and the casino's best option is still detection of pro players.
APs may cost a casino $200,000 per year
Use of the RRS costs them $500,000 per year because of lost trust
But they still get to keep the $20m or so from players that have no clue and probably dont care
If a casino only has auto wheels, the majority of players see it as "cheating". Casinos know this which is why they created the RRS rotors. But it only reduces the lost trust. Again it is still being noticed by players.
Potential loss would be hard to measure because you dont always know why an income drops. If casinos put signs next to their wheels to advertise that their wheels have no computer interference, that would be a sign for APs to attack the wheel, AND a sign to create trust. So it is win-win for APs and casinos. Bad for normal players though as they lose more money.
Quote from: Steve on July 19, 2013, 12:59:30 AM
See nolinks://nolinks.roulettecomputers.com/international-gaming-authorities/
The list isnt complete. But if its not listed there, theres a good change gambling is not regulated in the target country.
thanks for that link Steve :thumbsup:
Quote from: ausguy on July 15, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
From a live video demo. section of the RSS function on the same Cammergh site. "The RSS has a different outcome to what it would otherwise have been."
Then they explain RSS active vs non active with the wheel always set to 20 rpm for the tests. "In the RSS deceleration test the ball lands in pocket 20 instead of pocket 4". 20 & 4 are on opposite sides to each other on the 37 number wheel.
Ausguy,
Having watched that video a few times, I"m still trying to figure out what they're demonstrating.
Are they trying to show that you can't notice the change in speed?
Are they demonstrating that the ball will land somewhere else, but not actually directed to a spot?
It can't be a scientific display as there's a human spinning the ball!!
So what is it that they showing? The demonstration is vague at best.
Thanks.
AD
Ad - Re : The demo video I agree with what you say, particularly that it isn't very scientific ?
They may not be revealing the full true technical details on a site open to anyone ?
The written text hints that they know more than they want to reveal as they say things like "lands in pocket 20 instead of pocket 4" (37 no. Euro wheel)
Keeping in mind they also have highly accurate ball speed tracking so they would have a program that co-ordinates the required ball & rotor speeds to zone an area of the wheel. ? Whether through extensive testing the program can learn to refine itself to land a particular number can only be speculated upon by us ?
Certainly with the physics of their ball & wheel being constants and once they know the speeds of both (which they do with high accuracy) then they know the exact location of any 360 deg. point that the ball drops out of the ball track.
To be able to say the ball "lands on 20 instead of 4", in my view, infers that they know where the ball will land with the speed controls switched either on or off ?
Comprehensive testing, perhaps over many months & maybe 1 million spins of information gives them a data bank that could give +/- 99.99% accuracy ?
This would be more than sufficient to achieve the outcomes the casinos want = manipulate the results & guarantee their earnings.
Perhaps someone should email them and just ask what those videos are demonstrating?
AD
Ad - You could contact them with a picture of yourself in a captains looking uniform giving them the impression you're a potential customer for a new casino you will be operating somewhere in regulation free International waters ?
Quote from: ausguy on July 20, 2013, 01:58:47 AM
Ad - You could contact them with a picture of yourself in a captains looking uniform giving them the impression you're a potential customer for a new casino you will be operating somewhere in regulation free International waters ?
Hmm, good idea. I'll just include a picture of my boat and that'll cinch the deal!!
AD
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinkss%3A%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2F-VwsdyEGGQN0%2FTqxI0KRFU9I%2FAAAAAAAAKXU%2FaqdbyHLLIH0%2Fs800%2FPoster-Boat-3.jpg&hash=d451b8bd0123635c1917fbb220abb3446923111c)
That would be your small boat as your big one needs much deeper water ?
Ausguy,
Yes. That's the one we use to carry supplies and people out to the big boat in the harbor.
AD :dance1:
Quote from: Steve on July 18, 2013, 08:31:45 PM
I saw the mention of magnets in roulette balls. From over 1000 players I know, not one has ever seriously reported it. Sure there have been some odd bounces, but that happens in roulette. But there certainly are wheels / balls that use magnets. If they were used, it would be in unregulated casinos in high roller rooms. No casino would risk a license worth hundreds of millions by using magnets. I'm not saying it isnt possible, but most of you wouldnt be betting $50,000 per spin. The casino is quite prepared to lose a few thousand here and there. It keeps people coming back anyway.
Well using magnets in automated and half automated wheels is legit.You can check on the website of the Gambling Guru Commision
Quote from: bombus on July 18, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
It appears memo is done here and is just using this thread to drum up business through skype, etc?
That renders this thread useless for forum purposes so it will be locked then removed unless memo comes back here and renews the discussion in a positive way.
Cheers.
As you wish my friend.
Not sure why many of you are deviating from the topic.
memorabilis1234,
Can you show a few recorded videos where you play the wheel and its results?
Thanks,
John
And just when I thought this thread had fallen off a cliff.
Very cool. Some examples would be nice.
AD
Hm........My dear countryman...
Not entirely true what u r sayin there dude...
Videos would be apreciated though...
BTW...I would of known if someone made 800,000 euros in macedonia from alfastreets cause now I am in roulette maintenance for Senator Casinos in Macedonia,so magnets and all that stuff is just b.llshit...
If u trully have Alfa Street Machine u would know that there is another way of knowing which number the ball will fall in 90% of the time when there is no override or alternation on algorhytmics
"when there is no override or alternation on algorhytmics"
Are you saying that these machines CAN play against you?
we won't receive any glimmer of truth
"we won't receive any glimmer of truth"
I did ask. But it seems I still won't know. :biggrin:
See nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/wiki/alfastreet-roulette-wheels/
Quote from: Steve on August 11, 2013, 07:51:56 PM
See nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/wiki/alfastreet-roulette-wheels/
Steve,
As i mentioned few years back on your previous forum if you play roulette with a mobile(cell)phone prediction device in any casino on the Balkans(Croatia,Slovenia,Serbia,Macedonia,Monte-Negro,Kosovo) you will get your ass kicked and probably arrested too...
So your winning methods dont work here :(
No, they won't be arrested because they would not affect on a outcome result.
BUT problem is that no RC work on these airball machines, because of activities the machines make after NMB.
Also you Macedonianroulette1 cannot play these machines successful anymore on a way as you did in the past.
Macedonian, the idea is to not get caught, but play where it is legal anyway. In that case, the most that will happen is you get banned. Ive never known anyone, ever, world wide to be prosecuted for roulette computer use. Thats not to say it wont happen though.
And actually for the first time ever, one of my players was caught with a computer and it was where it is illegal. Im sure he now knows how stupid that was, because the police said they wouldnt charge him if he disposed of the equipment. He threw out the cables etc but kept the most important parts. No charges. Just a warning and he was very lucky.
Franky, whether or not a RC works on auto roulettes depends on the settings. Earlier machines like the early alfastreets were pathetically easy to beat. See video 4 at nolinks://nolinks.roulettecomputers.com/video-demos/
Certainly the countermeasures make play tricker and in many cases not worthwhile, but they are not the silver bullet to end advantage play as they are being advertised by manufacturers.
please upload the pix of alpha street roulette u post mortemed at home.........
Hello!
I had send a mensage to you.
Really need your help
Thanks
Quote from: memorabilis1234 on July 15, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
My skype name is : memorabilis.uniq,you can add me there so i can explain you everything there,becouse it will be hard to explain it by posts,and i will be criticized by many haters.
I request you too thanks
So what can you advise us to do against these RNG machines?Can you share us your method of betting? If so , post it here or at least send a pm ,or write on skype: the_metal14
P.S talking about Alfastreet R8 roulette
Hey guys
You know what really peeves me on this site.
The thread is started and the conversation gets thrown about from person to person, then all of a sudden it's 'send me a pm or Skype me' and the rest if us get totally left out.
I'm new on this site but getting a bit peeved with all this tell me a secret stuff when things start to get interesting. Becoming boring and a total waste of time.
Man up and tell the end of the story to the rest of us. Or don't bother starting it.
Completely agree.
The Macedonian guy starts by saying he will post ten times about the method.... still waiting.
Skype here and Skype there. WTF.
If anyone know how to beat Interblock, please at least give us some hints, if not the complete method.
Insidebet
The main reason that a method was not revealed in forums is that it is very hard to teach people because of very complex method.
Hello,
Well! He made sound like it was as easy as picking low hanging fruits.
Try as I might I cannot figure out what he meant exactly.
I dont mind ''complex''. Try me if you know anything and wish to share your knowledge.
Regards
Insider
Hello,
Has anybody talked/contacted with Memo? This is very interesting what he said.
His skype is no more in use I guess
Would love to hear at least some hints
Regards
deuces
your winning out of 10 is utterly worrisome. my strategy winning out of ten is 9/10. I use mathematic formula to play likely numbers to hit. I usually play 27 numbers (that is 9 rows) and wins consistently. its weird but true - I live in Namibia and you may email me at patheks10@gmail.com to show you and you may test me by sending some numbers and will tell you what number will come up as winnings. cheers
I am posting here for the first time. I want to discuss the 1st generation and 2nd generation of Alpha Street machines. I know few are still in operation. Some are still in Fort Lauderdale, Fl and Arizona casinos. Wording this carefully, I have found some advantages and many tendencies. I have some questions how these machines operate. for example, do all the alpha machines release the ball after final bet cutoff? While the casino also adjusts the minimum bet for week day and weekend play, I also suspect they adjust other factors on the machine . For instance, the time of day/night when playing the machine and payouts. Please feel free to direct message me , if you want to discuss Alpha Street Roulette.
Anyone live near Tampa or Fort Lauderdale and paly the Alpha Machines at HR?