Hello Guys
I want to share another Master piece from my Armour which I tested for around 5000 live spins with No loss so far.
Rules:
Play only against the live dealer
Record 8 unique numbers and then start playing on those 8 numbers, upon loss, include new number, upon loss include New number again
Progression Rules
1 Unit each on 8 , 9 and 10 unique numbers from Spin 9 onwards.
2 Units each on all the numbers including 11, 12 and 13 unique numbers
3 each other on all numbers including 14, 15 and 16 Unique numbers
and so on.
Continue Progression until in profit.
Exit on a single profit, this is a slow progression and with a 0.25 base unit, Max Bankroll required is 250 Units.
Logic is based upon laws of third that only 25 numbers appears in a cycle of 37 spins.
Test and post results.
This is a very promising method to play...
Example:
Bet Profit 100
6 100
8 100
18 100
13 100
31 100
12 100
26 100
23 100
20 8 92 8 Unique numbers, Start play from Spin 9. 1 Unit on 8 numbers
4 9 83 1 unit on 9 numbers
28 10 73 1 unit on 10 numbers
1 22 51 2 Units on 11 numbers now.
26 24 72 99 2 Units on 12 numbers now. Balance negative, Continue
4 24 72 145 2 Units on 12 numbers now. 45 Units Profit.
Enjoy Winnings.
Hi TopPlayer.
I remenber this very similar method posted long time ago by user Tinips (he had a private section here, but all was deleted).I have it somewhere on my archives.
The only difference with your method is that he waited for 10 unique numbers and he added 1 unit spin by spin (the betting is more aggresive than your progression).He not considered the zero.
The problem is when do you stop. at certain % of the bankroll in plus and which is the stop loss??
I guess when you are in profit (no matter what) you begin another sequence??
Thank you.
:)
Sorry but a lot more than 25 numbers can and WILL appear in 37 spins. I am sure that is not what you meant.
The law of third, as you call it, is nothing more than a statistical observation. No advantage can be taken from this whatsoever.
I have studied this in the past, trying to get an advantage from a distinct deviation from the norm.
For instance, if there are fewer than 23 individual numbers in the past 37 spins, I would bet that would be more in the immediate future. So I would bet on the other 14 numbers.
On the contrary, if there 27 or more individual numbers in the last 37 spins, I would bet all the 27 thinking that a repeat was "due".
Makes sense, no?
Well! No gain from that very logical so-called law of third method.
Inside bet & JLP
Please test this method and exit on every profit.
Post your results. We all know that numbers repeats and there are never 37 numbers coming in 37 Spins so far as this is true, this method surely works.....
you can keep SL as well as 200 Units. I havw not hit it so far...
Clue Play on WH Live dealer to always win
Quote from: TopPlayer1975 on May 08, 2016, 11:15:06 PM
Inside bet & JLP
Please test this method and exit on every profit.
Post your results. We all know that numbers repeats and there are never 37 numbers coming in 37 Spins so far as this is true, this method surely works.....
you can keep SL as well as 200 Units. I havw not hit it so far...
Clue Play on WH Live dealer to always win
Do you mean play for some hits and stop for the day or do you stop and retrack another 8 numbers and begin the sequence again??
Well, I took permanence and run the 2 methods to compare.
The Tinips method when you have some hit and not yet in profit you move down 1 step in the progression.
If you lose you keep adding chips and the new number that hit.If you got beyond the previous winning balance you reset all to 1 unit chip.If you got further hits you stay on 1 unit chip.
Attached xls file.
:)
I said continue progression until bankroll is positive. Slow progression shared earlier with an example.
once positive retrack and start new session.
Thanks Player!
Players you may prefer to use another Conservative progression wherein after 8th Unique numbers, play 1 unit on all numbers from 9th till 13th Spin i.e 6 Spins.
2 unit from 14th to19th Spin and so on
Quit at every positive balance in bankroll and restart with 8 Unique Numbers.
This is a very conservative progression. may suit you. Please test and share results...
..
Cheers,
I noticed that after a large imbalance and you are in minus, when you aproach the level of betting on 23 or 24 numbers it comes accumulation of hits - that proves the Law of Third.
In this test of 135 spins there was 12 numbers unhit at the end.
TopPlayer what have you noticed on your games??
:)
I agree with you JLP. At 23rd 24th spin, lot of repeats comes and bank balance gets positive after multiple hits.
Read my very conservative progression betting style which will help in overcoming drastic negative balance till number repeats and come in succession.
Overall must exit on profit at any stage of progression..
Seems Holy Grail to me and the only way anyone can lose is When 37 different numbers comes in 37 spins which is simply Impossible,....
Will appreciate the views of Nathan, Mr J, Steve and others.
Quote33 1
6 2
11 3
10 4
5 5
1 6
15 7
12 8 GO 0
27 9 1 0 L 8 36 -8 -8
25 10 1 0 L 9 36 -9 -17
19 11 1 0 L 10 36 -10 -27
26 12 2 0 L 22 72 -22 -49
16 13 2 0 L 24 72 -24 -73
35 14 2 0 L 26 72 -26 -99
22 15 3 0 L 42 108 -42 -141
2 16 3 0 L 45 108 -45 -186
20 17 3 0 L 48 108 -48 -234
3 18 4 0 L 68 144 -68 -302
36 19 4 0 L 72 144 -72 -374
29 20 4 0 L 76 144 -76 -450
20 20 5 1 W 100 180 80 -370
19 20 5 1 W 100 180 80 -290
0 21 5 0 L 100 180 -100 -390
27 21 5 1 W 105 180 75 -315
9 22 5 0 L 105 180 -105 -420
30 23 5 0 L 110 180 -110 -530
13 24 6 0 L 138 216 -138 -668
18 25 6 0 L 144 216 -144 -812
12 25 6 1 W 150 216 66 -746
21 26 6 0 L 150 216 -150 -896
21 26 7 1 W 182 252 70 -826
30 26 7 1 W 182 252 70 -756
6 26 7 1 W 182 252 70 -686
14 27 7 0 L 182 252 -182 -868
10 27 7 1 W 189 252 63 -805
36 27 7 1 W 189 252 63 -742
23 28 7 0 L 189 252 -189 -931
8 29 7 0 L 196 252 -196 -1127
12 29 8 2 W 232 288 56 -1071
17 30 8 0 L 232 288 -232 -1303
6 30 8 2 W 240 288 48 -1255
11 30 8 1 W 240 288 48 -1207
16 30 8 1 W 240 288 48 -1159
6 30 8 3 W 240 288 48 -1111
6 30 8 4 W 240 288 48 -1063
3 30 8 1 W 240 288 48 -1015
34 31 8 0 L 240 288 -240 -1255
35 31 8 1 W 248 288 40 -1215
15 31 8 1 W 248 288 40 -1175
26 31 8 1 W 248 288 40 -1135
26 31 8 2 W 248 288 40 -1095
3 31 8 2 W 248 288 40 -1055
14 31 8 1 W 248 288 40 -1015
17 31 8 1 W 248 288 40 -975
7 32 8 0 L 248 288 -248 -1223
6 32 9 5 W 288 324 36 -1187
2 32 9 1 W 288 324 36 -1151
36 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -1115
21 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -1079
18 32 9 1 W 288 324 36 -1043
25 32 9 1 W 288 324 36 -1007
35 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -971
2 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -935
30 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -899
18 32 9 2 W 288 324 36 -863
31 33 9 0 L 288 324 -288 -1151
10 33 9 2 W 297 324 27 -1124
30 33 9 3 W 297 324 27 -1097
27 33 9 2 W 297 324 27 -1070
10 33 9 3 W 297 324 27 -1043
19 33 9 2 W 297 324 27 -1016
32 34 9 0 L 297 324 -297 -1313
This is how you lose
I tested this in a few different ways and you get to -250 units very quickly no matter what progression you use. In fact, in one of my tests, the drawdown was so big that I would have had to win something like 30 times in a row just to get one chip +.
This is not the Grail, my friend.
Insidebet
I agree with Insidebet and Weddings that drawdowns can happen,hence SL is very Important.
Here is the Holy Grail based upon the Wheel Bias technique...
pick a wheel, record 1000 live Spins and identify 12 -13 numbers who hit greater than 30 times. bet on those after 3-4 misses upto 12 times or you may use flat progression as well.
Share your results.......
What do you mean by "unique" numbers?
Thanks.
ND
Hello Nathan
I mean record 1000 spins on a wheel and take top 12 or 13 numbers which hit 30 times or more..
We all know that for any wheel some nunbers hit more than others. this is wheel analysis technique.
Once top 12 numbers are shortlisted then wait for them to miss 3 or 4 times and then play them for 12 spins...
you will always win the session. Test and post results...
Cheers,
Thanks for your reply .
ND
You would be all day at the casino to record 1000 spins.By the time you get those 12 numbers the casino is closed.
And other day there maybe other numbers that are trending and you must retrack again.
Check here the max numbers of spins in some certain day :
23/07/2012 (776) - 776
nolinks://nolinks.laroulette.it/risorse/permanenzimetro/dublinbet-2012-1 (nolinks://nolinks.laroulette.it/risorse/permanenzimetro/dublinbet-2012-1)
:)
JLP
You didnt seem to understand the system. let me explain again.
Pick a Wheel or set of 2-3 wheels. you should have marked them someway.
Record 1000 spins over couple of days onthose wheels only.
Then analyse the numbers as per my last thread and they play...
it will be a one time recording activity until maintenance for online wheels or they shift in real wheels.
This is a tedious work but then results will be great since we know which numbers come more than others and can bet to win with our progression or flat betting.
Sounds Holy Grail bcs HG is something whete we can predict the spin outcomes and gain considerable edge over Casino
Why dont you share with me 1000 spins from any wheel and I will tell you the numbers to play on that wheel?
Quote from: TopPlayer1975 on May 15, 2016, 12:20:52 AM
JLP
You didnt seem to understand the system. let me explain again.
Pick a Wheel or set of 2-3 wheels. you should have marked them someway.
Record 1000 spins over couple of days onthose wheels only.
Then analyse the numbers as per my last thread and they play...
it will be a one time recording activity until maintenance for online wheels or they shift in real wheels.
This is a tedious work but then results will be great since we know which numbers come more than others and can bet to win with our progression or flat betting.
Sounds Holy Grail bcs HG is something whete we can predict the spin outcomes and gain considerable edge over Casino
Why dont you share with me 1000 spins from any wheel and I will tell you the numbers to play on that wheel?
Ok.
I see now is tracking for various days.Yes, tedious work.
Well, here are numbers from 2 different tables (Table 1 and Table 2 ) of 2 consecutive days that sum more than 1000 spins each.
Table 1
06/04/2013 (527)
07/04/2013 (570)
Spins = 1097
Table 2
06/04/2013 (565)
07/04/2013 (631)
Spins = 1191
:)
Well that 1, 000 spin method I leave to the believers in Utopia and to the fallacy of those who believe those numbers are due.
FTL in reference to EC is serving me rather well.
Roulette is not my only casino game. I have perfected methods for 3 additional casino games
35 years casino experience should teach one enough.
Hello JLP
I performed the Wheel analysis on Table 1 of Dublin bet based upon the numbers provided for 6th and 7th April,2013 and found the below 12 BEST Numbers to play on this wheel.
Play all below 12 Numbers after 3 consecutive Misses:
0,3,7,11,15,19,25,27,28,29,31,34
Waiting to see your results for this wheel 8th April onwards.
Ok.
Will check on that.
:)
What you do after this sequence ??
8 x
9 x
5 x Bet 0,3,7,11,15,19,25,27,28,29,31,34
17 L
35 L
33 L
8 L
8 L
14 L
21 L
33 L
24 L
25 W 10 spin
4
0
29
11
You have the 3 misses and start betting.You got a hit on the 10 spin (you must use progression to stay in profit).Then after 1 spin you got 3 hits in a row (on 0,29 and 11).What´s the criterion to follow??
The question is you stop at 1 hit and wait for another 3 misses or you keep on betting after this long sequence of loses??
:)
I will follow this criterion:
-Wait for 3 misses and start betting (for 12 spins using progression on 12 numbers)
-If hit stop and wait for another 3 misses.
You miss some wins when it hits 2 or 3 consecutive times, but you must follow some criterion.
The other one to catch this wins is betting continually - non stop.
:)
In this sequence if you wait for 3 misses you miss lot of wins.
24 x
26 x
30 x Bet 0,3,7,11,15,19,25,27,28,29,31,34
3 W
7
26
24
25
18
35
11
0
13
6
7
20
4
29
34
29
32
19
7
31
30
29
7
33
Another train of numbers that hit after hit.
14 x
4 x
32 x Bet 0,3,7,11,15,19,25,27,28,29,31,34
25 W
33
7
34
26
12
28
9
26
25
31
0
10
31
4
10
27
27
32
11
29
Ok.Here is the final test on more than 500 spins for the next day (8-4) -Table 1.
There was no losses pass the 12 step progression.
But what you do on those sequences that numbers hit one after another.We do not know when this happens (well maybe after some imbalance)??
8)
You are a Winner JLP, Waiting 3 or 4 times for numbers to miss and play progression when any number hits will give much better results.
All Sessions won, max progression went upto 10 th level
Overall it works. Share more results
Hello JLP
i went through you 8th April 2013 tracker where you got 54 betting opportinities in 563 Live Spins which means that using progression and a Proft goal of 10 units per Session, 540 units can be earned in 563 spins.
Isnt this a Holy Grail?????????
Quote from: TopPlayer1975 on May 16, 2016, 02:03:22 AM
Hello JLP
i went through you 8th April 2013 tracker where you got 54 betting opportinities in 563 Live Spins which means that using progression and a Proft goal of 10 units per Session, 540 units can be earned in 563 spins.
Isnt this a Holy Grail?????????
For those 12 numbers you will need a total bankroll of 2556 units.
On that 10 step progression you have an accumulated loss of 732 units on 9th spin.
Would you put 32 units on 12 numbers (384 total) for a win of 36 units on 10th spin??
The risk reward ratio is bad.
8)
Here is the progression for 12 numbers (12 step):
Step Bet Tbet Loss Win
1 1 12 12 24
2 1 12 24 12
3 2 24 48 24
4 3 36 84 24
5 4 48 122 12
6 6 72 204 12
7 9 108 312 12
8 14 168 480 24
9 21 252 732 24
10 32 384 1116 36
11 40 576 1692 36
12 72 864 2556 36
Pass the 7 step (9 units on 12 numbers) you are out of the max table limit (10 units for straight up numbers on Dublinbet).
8)
How many times Wins will come upto 12th stage of progression?
Use conservative progression on 12 numbers like this:0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5
Go back 3 steps of the progression after each win... Play with a Profit goal of 10% per session and then restart.
Observing those players at Dublinbet I am wondering if they ever take a profit. They are piling up chips on the table. and when they win it goes right back on the table for the next spin.
Are those cats for real?
Another observation : No la partage for EC.
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on May 17, 2016, 08:44:23 AM
Observing those players at Dublinbet I am wondering if they ever take a profit. They are piling up chips on the table. and when they win it goes right back on the table for the next spin.
Are those cats for real?
Another observation : No la partage for EC.
I observe the same.
Never seen a sisthematic player.
Quote from: TopPlayer1975 on May 16, 2016, 11:47:17 PM
How many times Wins will come upto 12th stage of progression?
From that test 10th step.
Use conservative progression on 12 numbers like this:0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5
For which casino is this applicable?? :scratch_ones_head:
Go back 3 steps of the progression after each win... Play with a Profit goal of 10% per session and then restart.
Ok.That´s fine. :thumbsup:
Dublinbet is a rather busy place during the evening hours . One person has to handle the payout, cashing the vouchers for chips, removing lost chips from the layout and finally dropping the ball.
Those croupiers are certainly earning their wages.
Here in the USA we usually have at least 2 persons staffing the roulette table. No automatic chip sorting machine. The players did not like that at all. They tried this in Atlantic City and it did not last.
Have not been in Las Vegas lately but I have my doubts that they being used there .
Here are 2 Pdfs (RoulettePro) related to the first system posted in this thread.
One stop betting at max 25 numbers, the other at max 12 numbers (less bankroll needed).
Checkout.
:)
Quote from: TopPlayer1975 on May 14, 2016, 01:59:23 PM
Hello Nathan
I mean record 1000 spins on a wheel and take top 12 or 13 numbers which hit 30 times or more..
We all know that for any wheel some nunbers hit more than others. this is wheel analysis technique.
Once top 12 numbers are shortlisted then wait for them to miss 3 or 4 times and then play them for 12 spins...
you will always win the session. Test and post results...
Cheers,
Warning. In Monte Carlo change roulette every day (have many roulettes in stock). Every day other roulette for one table. This method is not good for Monte Carlo and today probably also no good for many other casinos. Perhaps good for only some small poor casinos.