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Title: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on June 30, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
Risking 1000 units to win 1 unit    (Not Red/Black Martingale System)   System doesn't lose

Would you play it?


Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: klw on July 01, 2019, 06:34:13 AM
I would have to see some pretty clear evidence first and even then most probably not.  I can't see how it could be done.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on November 14, 2019, 10:54:41 AM
If anyone here really wants to learn professional techniques, contact this guy.

**** MODERATOR NOTE (November 15th, 2019): The email originally posted has been removed. Selling must be done in public where everyone can see. Scammers often lure victims to private chats.

**** MODERATOR NOTE (March 1st, 2020): Later in this thread, I revealed this member attempted to scam members here by publishing fabricated positive reviews of his own system for sale. Considering the proof was clear, he confessed. I still allowed him to continue, but for revenge he published fabricated reviews of my systems at trustpilot (although he never purchased anything from us). Behavior like this is common.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: valvo on November 15, 2019, 11:40:47 PM
What makes you think this guy has something?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: CryptoLogic on November 17, 2019, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: mr green on June 30, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
Risking 1000 units to win 1 unit    (Not Red/Black Martingale System)   System doesn't lose

Would you play it?
NO, it is stupid.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: juneau on January 05, 2020, 08:06:45 PM
.....I can unscramble mathematical randomness.....
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 06, 2020, 02:49:44 AM
Check this guy out!

He helped me make £29k

You just have to call and give previous results then he'll tell you the most likely numbers to follow.

The guy is a Roulette god.

MODERATOR NOTE: Again the posted email has been removed.  Selling must be done in public where everyone can see. Scammers often lure victims to private chats.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on January 07, 2020, 07:27:26 PM
Hello Juneau, good to see you here.
When you wrote in gambling forums, I was trying to understand the way you explained, I even thought I had deciphered it well, but I think I didn't do it well, because I ended up leaving it ...
I would like to know if you could leave me some clues or if we could speak privately to share game forms, if it is so kind!
Cheers
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 07, 2020, 11:18:39 PM
Quote from: mr green on January 06, 2020, 02:49:44 AM
Check this guy out!

He helped me make £29k

You just have to call and give previous results then he'll tell you the most likely numbers to follow.

The guy is a Roulette god.

I checked and the email address you give for the guy is the same name as yours in your profile.

If you're going to scam people, at least use separate names and email addresses.  :good:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 08, 2020, 12:32:48 AM
Ok Steve,

Yes you're right it is me and sorry to everyone for this devious marketing plan.

The truth is I am legitimate seller with I dare say one of the best systems ever designed!!

My experience of 12 years completely dedicated to roulette has given me the knowledge and know how to create this great system.

I recently started selling on eBay which is littered with bull shit and endless unusable garbage.
Making it real hard for legitimate players/sellers to make sales or even be believed.

VLS Roulette forum has always been a great way to top up on ideas and share opinions but post a system you'll. ever get a thank you or praise because people who think they're pro but never managed to create with true logic simply tell themselves it can't beaten and therefore anyone who claims they have something amazing is full of shit.
In my case this is not true, I basically wrote this post to get interest so I can give people free demonstrations.

Then they can see exactly what they can acquire and not waste any more time and money into dead ends.

I truly appreciate anyone who doesn't believe other people's claims but all I'm offering is Free Demonstrations.
This whole site produces more traffic than eBay with customers who are truly passionate about the game and willing to pay for the help.
So sorry for being dishonest advertising but the product is real and doe's exactly what it claims.
I offer anyone 2-3 demonstrations for free so they can assess and test before a purchase of either predictions or the full system.

The truth is you delete my contact details because it takes  customers away from the crap you're trying to sell.

Why just delete contact details??

Steve I would love to give you demonstrations please please accept then come tell everyone the results.

You'll give me 30+ previous results then I'll give you just 6 numbers to bet for up to six spins.
Simple!

Anyone is welcome to the demonstrations just pm me and we can do over Skype messages or however you want, absolutely no payment required.

Hope everyone can understand my dilemma and the reasons behind my actions.
Ps I did know it was same email but didn't think they're would be a site security guard checking posts for contact details and going into profile's just to save traffic for themselves.
and double ps kimo li and turbo genius are retards.

Cheers

Jamie
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ati on January 08, 2020, 12:35:18 PM
I don't think Steve is worried about you making him lose customers. He's just trying to protect gullible and desperate people. There were a number of members recently on his other forum who got scammed.

You called "this guy" (yourself) a roulette god. You could easily prove your claim with a simulation without luring people into secret groups and private skype conversations. If you showed that you have a consistent winner, you wouldn't need to convince people, they would beg you to take their money in exchange of the system.

How about a public test?
Here's 35 numbers from a live wheel, can you tell which 6 numbers to bet in the next 6 spins as you claim?

12
19
27
4
1
16
20
24
19
12
2
10
29
30
36
20
2
21
26
3
2
21
30
3
8
3
35
16
36
2
36
26
8
26
35
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: poluvolo on January 08, 2020, 04:49:18 PM
HI MR GREEN
I SEND YOU PM
CHEERS
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: juneau on January 08, 2020, 08:23:43 PM
...hello passion...I see you are betting 17 times...I only bet 4 times for my +20%...but it's 5 for the game...i.e. 5x.24=120%...
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 08, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
Yes of course, this is fine.

I will happily do multiple open demonstrations.

After going through your previous results we've hit a point where the wins have already come and left with no trigger, so please either send more results that follow the set you've given or can be a fresh set altogether.

Please also understand that this is harder to do like this in forum than in a call because I've only got a batch of results to go from rather than me picking the exact number to start betting from.

I normally say 30+ but also maybe ask for a few more until a decent trigger reveals itself as the system has variable betting triggers.

Hope you understand and I'm looking forward to getting and showing everyone the results.

Cheers

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: antimodes on January 09, 2020, 01:35:57 PM
Hello everyone,

i would like to write a feedback about strategy's Mr.Green/Jamie.
First of all i wanted to invest 100 euro by my self for the demostration, i can proof that, to make everyone sure it's safe.
He was very kind, calm and he is more confidence to talk instead to write.

Dependently to which numbers comes out from the roulette, he gave me six numbers to bet.
During the session he gave me suggestions to make the bet more profitable or safety, especially if number did not taken. So it's not a "flat" strategy.
He gave me 3 sets of numbers for free to play.
I never go down than 80 euro of my initial bankroll and at the end i earn 20 euro, so 120 euro of bankroll or 20%.
Of course, more someone can invest, more profitable can be the result. He suggest me to start with 300 and it will enough to recover his charge and increase bankroll.
My feedback is positive.

Thanks to all.
Paolo
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 09, 2020, 08:40:26 PM
Send me some numbers if you want to see some magic.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on January 09, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: juneau on January 08, 2020, 08:23:43 PM
...hello passion...I see you are betting 17 times...I only bet 4 times for my +20%...but it's 5 for the game...i.e. 5x.24=120%...

It makes me very happy that you are back in other forums where they respect you!
Could you talk with you more privately so you can give me examples and clues to study your game form?
I would be very grateful.

Cheers
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 09, 2020, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: PassionRuleta on January 09, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
It makes me very happy that you are back in other forums where they respect you!
Could you talk with you more privately so you can give me examples and clues to study your game form?
I would be very grateful.

Cheers

Passionruleta and Juneau

Stop with these devious messages to try make my traffic Pm you for information instead of me, go make your own scam room.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 10, 2020, 03:02:56 PM
More numbers anyone?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: elite on January 11, 2020, 05:42:26 AM
Quote from: mr green on January 10, 2020, 03:02:56 PM
More numbers anyone?
attach numbers where  27  is latest .
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 12, 2020, 07:29:55 PM
Green, no I'm not concerned about you "stealing customers".

No, I don't think what I have is "crap" compared to what you have.

People that investigate spam and products being sold are called "moderators". As ATI highlighted, I'm just protecting forum members. Anyone can sell stuff, but only in the "sales" section and as per rules, which are designed to protect members.

For example, if you try luring people into private discussions, that's typically what scammers do so they cant be justly criticized by more knowledgeable members.

Regarding your system.... There are many claims of "holy grails", and they all turn out the same: to be bullshit. I think you believe you might have something, but everyone goes through that phase.

If you really had the HG, you would have made a fortune from it already - not lying to members about some guru helping you make $20k or so.

There are various holes in your story. People shouldnt be letting you play in their accounts or splitting winnings with you. People should read this to avoid being scammed: nolinkss://nolinks.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=26422

Again I think you might think you have something, but you dont. If you're playing against random spins, you're stuck at random accuracy and your bet selection method counts for nothing. So your approach using past spins to predict future spins is completely ineffective.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 12, 2020, 07:31:03 PM
If you want to prove your system to everyone, just create an account at nolinks.rouletteplayers.org/register and openly test your system. You dont need to ask people to do trials with you. Just run a few trials at rouletteplayers.org, but let everyone know your proposed account name there before testing. But most people understand short term data is meaningless, unless you have something else to add weight.

And please, dont go on rants attacking me, as you already have here and elsewhere. I'm just protecting members. You wouldnt be the first or last person to attack me and accusing me of having ulterior motives, when you are the one lying your ass off to members to sell something.

And i'm not interested in debating any of this with you. You're lucky I haven't completely banned you and removed your posts considering what you tried. I've only allowed you to continue here in the interests of transparency.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 13, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 12, 2020, 07:31:03 PM
If you want to prove your system to everyone, just create an account at nolinks.rouletteplayers.org/register and openly test your system. You dont need to ask people to do trials with you. Just run a few trials at rouletteplayers.org, but let everyone know your proposed account name there before testing. But most people understand short term data is meaningless, unless you have something else to add weight.

And please, dont go on rants attacking me, as you already have here and elsewhere. I'm just protecting members. You wouldnt be the first or last person to attack me and accusing me of having ulterior motives, when you are the one lying your ass off to members to sell something.

And i'm not interested in debating any of this with you. You're lucky I haven't completely banned you and removed your posts considering what you tried. I've only allowed you to continue here in the interests of transparency.

Are you doubting Jesus Christ?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 13, 2020, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: elite on January 11, 2020, 05:42:26 AM
attach numbers where  27  is latest .

Hi Elite, Thank you.


The Six Predicted Numbers

2,  8,  11,  17,  18,   23,


Cheers.

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 13, 2020, 09:18:28 PM
Quote from: mr green on January 13, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
Are you doubting Jesus Christ?

No, I doubting someone who blatantly lied to try and get sales, and is making claims that anyone with basic knowledge would know are very unlikely to be true.

You want to prove your system works, and I gave you a better option than manually asking people to test a few insignificant spins.

You do know a few spins is nothing, right?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 14, 2020, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 13, 2020, 09:18:28 PM
No, I doubting someone who blatantly lied to try and get sales, and is making claims that anyone with basic knowledge would know are very unlikely to be true.

You want to prove your system works, and I gave you a better option than manually asking people to test a few insignificant spins.

You do know a few spins is nothing, right?


My system has been tested for over 100 million trillion spins and shows A positive expectation of +7 units.
Do have pie and bar charts to prove.

Cheers
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 15, 2020, 01:07:41 AM
And you expect people to take you seriously?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2020, 01:07:41 AM
And you expect people to take you seriously?

Steve,

Just because posting an email address or link on this forum is a crime, does not mean I'm wrong.

I never claim to win every time.

The perfect system comprises of minimal numbers bet with maximum hit rates.

This is the most logical way to play!

I have found the perfect way to track and order previous results enabling me to locate the likely upcoming numbers, the results show this is the correct way to track and order the previous results most logically, as the numbers to bet are narrowed down to only a handful.

These special numbers are easily identified, making your bet selection more precise.

I can determine best time to bet any amount of single numbers at the likeliest times to hit.

Sometimes will miss taking too long to hit or a different number will take its place.

Has massive potential, with hundreds of angles to attack the winning numbers.

As the ordering process is most logical the next opportunity to bet is never far away.

Roulette is random

Playing most logically will help anyone have a clear view of what is going on, helping anyone play much better, and that is exactly what this is.

I sell on eBay

Doing predictions with all proceeds going to charity, afterwards the customer decides whether to purchase more sets of predictions or learn the full methods.

Turns anyone Pro overnight!

I'm happy to compare both our claims!

Good luck


Cheers



Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 15, 2020, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AMJust because posting an email address or link on this forum is a crime, does not mean I'm wrong.

No but the deception part is fraud. But sure we can look past that and consider what matters.

Quote from: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AMThe perfect system comprises of minimal numbers bet with maximum hit rates. This is the most logical way to play!

Its not logical for any attempt to play where results are random. Because no consideration of previous results changes future results.

Quote from: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AMI have found the perfect way to track and order previous results enabling me to locate the likely upcoming numbers, the results show this is the correct way to track and order the previous results most logically, as the numbers to bet are narrowed down to only a handful.

But the upcoming numbers have no relation to previous numbers if the spins are random.

Quote from: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AMRoulette is random

When you say its random, it means there's nothing you can do. It is either random, or not random.

Saying something like there's around equal reds and blacks does not mean its predictable in a way that matters.

Quote from: mr green on January 15, 2020, 04:27:29 AMTurns anyone Pro overnight!
I'm happy to compare both our claims!

What I do is nothing like what you do.

I dont care what you do off the forum. But if you're trying to sell something on my forums, expect fair criticisms. Most forums would have banned you completely already.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 16, 2020, 03:58:17 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 15, 2020, 07:56:06 PM
No but the deception part is fraud. But sure we can look past that and consider what matters.

Its not logical for any attempt to play where results are random. Because no consideration of previous results changes future results.

But the upcoming numbers have no relation to previous numbers if the spins are random.

When you say its random, it means there's nothing you can do. It is either random, or not random.

Saying something like there's around equal reds and blacks does not mean its predictable in a way that matters.

What I do is nothing like what you do.

I dont care what you do off the forum. But if you're trying to sell something on my forums, expect fair criticisms. Most forums would have banned you completely already.

Roulette is certainly random. Simple!

The rythm of 37 randomly generated numbers has boundaries that can be used to locate likely upcoming events.

Tracking and ordering the rythm of randomness correctly can give clues to likely locations to hit and making it possible to see likely upcoming numbers.

Logical and tactical!


Cheers


Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 16, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
It is a contradiction to say "roulette is random", and "roulette is predictable".

You're either stuck at 1 in 37 accuracy, or achieve better accuracy by exploiting "non-random" behavior.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 17, 2020, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 16, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
It is a contradiction to say "roulette is random", and "roulette is predictable".

You're either stuck at 1 in 37 accuracy, or achieve better accuracy by exploiting "non-random" behavior.

Hi Steve,


Roulette is random.

Exploring the possibility of likely outcomes from the rythm of 37 randomly generated numbers.

My methods logicalally order previous results in a certain way to locate the likeliest numbers to hit next, based upon previous results and rythm of the results.


Feel welcome to purchase.



Cheers
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 17, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
You've given every indication the system doesn't work any better than random bets. People are free to buy from you and find out for themselves.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 18, 2020, 08:51:14 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 17, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
You've given every indication the system doesn't work any better than random bets. People are free to buy from you and find out for themselves.


Track like me and you will see.



Cheers
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 19, 2020, 11:27:12 PM
When you show me any information or claim I find credible, I'll pay more attention. So far everything points the other way.

But if you have the HG, don't worry about me or anyone. Just go win billions.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Ronjo on January 21, 2020, 02:49:42 AM
Quote from: mr green on January 18, 2020, 08:51:14 AM

Track like me and you will see.



Cheers

Hi Mr Green, I am confused are you selling or is it someone else? why would you sell than rather go make millions, I think there are strategy's out there that work but don't have a price on them, Steve has a few for free on this forum, I have a strategy that uses flat bets and win consistently but I don't sell it, as i make a profit playing and it's not the holy grail, I have shared it with some of my old mates from this forum from the old days and still in touch, in those days we all worked together on this forum.like Steve says it's all pointing the other way, members be warned I have used, tried and created everything that's out there in my decades of playing roulette don't get scammed there is very little out there that's legit.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 21, 2020, 04:33:17 AM
Quote from: Ronjo on January 21, 2020, 02:49:42 AM
Hi Mr Green, I am confused are you selling or is it someone else? why would you sell than rather go make millions, I think there are strategy's out there that work but don't have a price on them, Steve has a few for free on this forum, I have a strategy that uses flat bets and win consistently but I don't sell it, as i make a profit playing and it's not the holy grail, I have shared it with some of my old mates from this forum from the old days and still in touch, in those days we all worked together on this forum.like Steve says it's all pointing the other way, members be warned I have used, tried and created everything that's out there in my decades of playing roulette don't get scammed there is very little out there that's legit.
Regards,
Ronjo.

You can't do it, nobody can?

You sound like a logical idiot!

You have much cheek.

I also have posted systems, I'm sure better than your consistent winner and never got a thank you.

Downloaded 892 times!

From a psychological point of view you're just posting a message to suck up to, Steve, Steve, Steve.

And because of the fact you're a roulette loser you hate to see people like me claiming they've found something amazing.

Let's face it you are not smart, I am smart.  Simple.

So let's get down to business, I never claimed to win every time and every spin.

I offer free demonstrations and explain before what it all entails.

It's not a set system and I don't claim it's definitely gonna make anyone rich, but will definitely help you play logicalally and have a clear view of what is going on.

Methodology

This is a way of tracking and ordering the numbers in the most logical way, which when done properly reveals the likeliest numbers to hit soon.

With this method therefore creates a multitude of different betting angles to attack these likely numbers.

For you to come and start slating me as if you're the wise old wizard who seen everything before and warning members I'm a scammer.

Bad man.   

I teach how to play roulette

I do Predictions on eBay for charity.

Just read previous messages and I've already explained.

All you had to do was ask, a real wise guy would atleast be a little bit intrigued to what I have to offer and maybe ask for some proof or what I'm selling.

I don't care how much cred you got here means nothing, seriously.

Sounds like you've wasted all your time pissing in the wind and now you're barking up the wrong tree.

Trust me, I don't know your consistent winner but I now know for sure I'm miles ahead of you.

Good luck

Regards
Jamie




Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 21, 2020, 06:56:42 PM
Jamie, your post is all dribble coming from someone who lied his ass off with tales of some guru to try and sell an unproven system. And you have no understanding that random means 1 in 37 your system doesn't work. Your claims are full of holes. But you don't even appear to have the required knowledge to understand this. I have no doubt anyone stupid enough to send you money will lose it.

If you continue to follow the rules, you can stay on my forums. But if you're going to unjustly attack members (which is breaking the rules) when they rightfully highlight points that indicate you're running a scam, you can find another forum - perhaps one with dumber members.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 21, 2020, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 16, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
It is a contradiction to say "roulette is random", and "roulette is predictable".

You're either stuck at 1 in 37 accuracy, or achieve better accuracy by exploiting "non-random" behavior.

Roulette is random!

My methods cannot predict the next numbers for certain but can show what is highly likely.

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 21, 2020, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: mr green on January 21, 2020, 07:49:56 PMRoulette is random!

This means you have 1 in 37 accuracy, no matter what analysis you do on past spins.

Quote from: mr green on January 21, 2020, 07:49:56 PMMy methods cannot predict the next numbers for certain but can show what is highly likely.

Here's your contradiction. If roulette is random, no number is going to be more likely than another.

Do you understand the contradiction, and why I find your claims ridiculous? Its the same kind of contradictions from turbogenius.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Ronjo on January 22, 2020, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: mr green on January 21, 2020, 04:33:17 AM
You can't do it, nobody can?

You sound like a logical idiot!

You have much cheek.

I also have posted systems, I'm sure better than your consistent winner and never got a thank you.

Downloaded 892 times!

From a psychological point of view you're just posting a message to suck up to, Steve, Steve, Steve.

And because of the fact you're a roulette loser you hate to see people like me claiming they've found something amazing.

Let's face it you are not smart, I am smart.  Simple.

So let's get down to business, I never claimed to win every time and every spin.

I offer free demonstrations and explain before what it all entails.

It's not a set system and I don't claim it's definitely gonna make anyone rich, but will definitely help you play logicalally and have a clear view of what is going on.

Methodology

This is a way of tracking and ordering the numbers in the most logical way, which when done properly reveals the likeliest numbers to hit soon.

With this method therefore creates a multitude of different betting angles to attack these likely numbers.

For you to come and start slating me as if you're the wise old wizard who seen everything before and warning members I'm a scammer.

Bad man.   

I teach how to play roulette

I do Predictions on eBay for charity.

Just read previous messages and I've already explained.

All you had to do was ask, a real wise guy would atleast be a little bit intrigued to what I have to offer and maybe ask for some proof or what I'm selling.

I don't care how much cred you got here means nothing, seriously.

Sounds like you've wasted all your time pissing in the wind and now you're barking up the wrong tree.

Trust me, I don't know your consistent winner but I now know for sure I'm miles ahead of you.

Good luck

Regards
Jamie

Wow, so I am an idiot, thanks mate, you don't know me and I have no reason to suck up to Steve, it's simple mate just run sessions of your system on rouletteplayers.org simple so everyone can see how it performs without knowing how your system works, the fact that you said no one can have a consistent strategy, so that means you the only one that has cracked the code, you are confused mate and just your comments on randomness shows you have no idea of what you talking about.you have a lovely day.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nomoresense on January 22, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
Hello,
i follow this thread for some time.
I would like to test the strategy publically, if Mr.Green is okay with that.

I got 3 series of 30 numbers and following (not visible here) from roulette evolution's platform.
Feel free to choose any or all.

Thank you.

1set: first is 18 last is (double) 16
2set: first is 13 last is 7
3set: first is 23 last is 20
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
Quote from: nomoresense on January 22, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
Hello,
i follow this thread for some time.
I would like to test the strategy publically, if Mr.Green is okay with that.

I got 3 series of 30 numbers and following (not visible here) from roulette evolution's platform.
Feel free to choose any or all.

Thank you.

1set: first is 18 last is (double) 16
2set: first is 13 last is 7
3set: first is 23 last is 20

Thank you

Set1.  6,  13,  15,  22,  24,  35

Set2.  3,  12,  14,  19,  27,  30

Set3.  3,  13,  24,  28,  29,  31

Cheers

Jamie

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 21, 2020, 11:11:53 PM
This means you have 1 in 37 accuracy, no matter what analysis you do on past spins.

Here's your contradiction. If roulette is random, no number is going to be more likely than another.

Do you understand the contradiction, and why I find your claims ridiculous? Its the same kind of contradictions from turbogenius.

Yes I do understand.

How do you go about life as it is so random?  I'm guessing nothing is likely to you.

If I seen the neighbors cat coming through the cat flap 9pm sharp thirty nights in a row, I'd guess on the thirty-first night is likely to be the same.

Just my logic

Cheers

Jamie

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 22, 2020, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:53:12 PMHow do you go about life as it is so random?

Life isn't completely unpredictable. RNG is completely unpredictable, with some rare exceptions (like flawed RNG). Your argument is useless.

Quote from: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:53:12 PMI'm guessing nothing is likely to you.

Incorrect. There are many things that are likely. But when it comes to RNG, by design, one number is just as likely as the other. Why is it so hard to understand?

Quote from: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:53:12 PMIf I seen the neighbors cat coming through the cat flap 9pm sharp thirty nights in a row, I'd guess on the thirty-first night is likely to be the same.

Another pointless statement.

You're really just wasting my time. Go and win some money. If you had the HG you would have the ability to win billions. Yet here you are, pretending to have purchased a HG from some guru on ebay, while making ridiculous arguments.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 22, 2020, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 22, 2020, 09:06:49 PM
Life isn't completely unpredictable. RNG is completely unpredictable, with some rare exceptions (like flawed RNG). Your argument is useless.

Incorrect. There are many things that are likely. But when it comes to RNG, by design, one number is just as likely as the other. Why is it so hard to understand?

Another pointless statement.

You're really just wasting my time. Go and win some money. If you had the HG you would have the ability to win billions. Yet here you are, pretending to have purchased a HG from some guru on ebay, while making ridiculous arguments.

I don't want to waste your time, you can just ignore me but I guess you're still likely to reply.

I didn't purchase anything, I thought up all by myself, so I'll take all credit thank you.

It's not a specific system

I'm happy to just keep doing predictions, anyone is welcome to test me.

Cheers

Jamie
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nomoresense on January 23, 2020, 06:37:42 AM
Thanks Mr.Green

The results are:
- 1set: number 6 at 3° spin
- 2set: number 27 at 24° spin
- 3set: number 28 at 3° spin

So 2 of 3 series hit the number in first 6 spin.
1 series hit number using a progression (for me, maybe) or "variable betting triggers" as Mr.Green said or "suggestions" as Antimodes said.

Thank you all
Ron

Quote from: mr green on January 22, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
Thank you

Set1.  6,  13,  15,  22,  24,  35

Set2.  3,  12,  14,  19,  27,  30

Set3.  3,  13,  24,  28,  29,  31

Cheers

Jamie
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nomoresense on January 23, 2020, 06:47:17 AM
I forgot to attach results
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 23, 2020, 09:43:37 PM
Green, i respond only to protect inexperienced and gullible members.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: FreeRoulette on January 24, 2020, 11:57:54 PM
Mr. Green,

I am interested in your product where you give me the numbers that will come up next given a set of previous numbers. Will you show us a live demonstration where someone else runs the roulette numbers and you give us what numbers will come up next?

If it works, then I will put $100 on your next number prediction and split the win with you. We can record the entire thing and post it on VLSRoulette. That should really boost your sales.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 25, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Quote from: FreeRoulette on January 24, 2020, 11:57:54 PM
Mr. Green,

I am interested in your product where you give me the numbers that will come up next given a set of previous numbers. Will you show us a live demonstration where someone else runs the roulette numbers and you give us what numbers will come up next?

If it works, then I will put $100 on your next number prediction and split the win with you. We can record the entire thing and post it on VLSRoulette. That should really boost your sales.

Hi,

My six number predictions are only for demonstration purposes to show the potentials.

Learning the full process can be more precise and able to bet any amount of single numbers!

The difference is trigger times.




Cheers











Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: FreeRoulette on January 26, 2020, 02:28:47 AM
Quote from: mr green on January 25, 2020, 08:34:39 AM
Hi,

My six number predictions are only for demonstration purposes to show the potentials.

Learning the full process can be more precise and able to bet any amount of single numbers!

The difference is trigger times.




Cheers
Yeah, that is what I want. A demo
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 26, 2020, 06:42:32 AM
Quote from: FreeRoulette on January 26, 2020, 02:28:47 AM
Yeah, that is what I want. A demo

Send me 50 previous results

Make sure you have lots of numbers that come afterwards!
I will ask for more if needed

I'll give you the three likely customers.

If you want to do multiple sets is fine.

Cheers

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: mr green on January 26, 2020, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: nomoresense on January 23, 2020, 06:37:42 AM
Thanks Mr.Green

The results are:
- 1set: number 6 at 3° spin
- 2set: number 27 at 24° spin
- 3set: number 28 at 3° spin

So 2 of 3 series hit the number in first 6 spin.
1 series hit number using a progression (for me, maybe) or "variable betting triggers" as Mr.Green said or "suggestions" as Antimodes said.

Thank you all
Ron


Yes,

I stop on certain numbers, could be the very first result.

These are numbers that tell me when to stop betting and re-track for next best trigger.

So the hit on Set2 @ spin 24 would have been a stop betting situation much earlier and obviously taking the loss.

We could have bet more numbers which would have resulted in a win with the numbers that followed.

For our testing was s clear miss.

Send me 50 previous results and I'll give you three likely customers.

Cheers



Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 27, 2020, 05:22:29 AM
Green, you inquired about taking my $100k challenge to prove your system is the HG. Then you send me this:

QuoteI've got a guy coding for me so I can test without wasting your time.

So if I do send a system it'll be because my testing shows it works.

Obviously I don't think 100%, but it's good with my short amount of testing and this isn't anything to do with what I've been offering everyone.

So you haven't even properly tested your system. Everything indicates:

* You haven't made significant money with your system
* You lied and tried to cheat people by telling them you bought some fantastic system from a guru
* You have no idea about even the basics of roulette, because of your contradictions
* You dont need my $100k challenge, if you find someone else to test your system, and it seems to work.

There's more, but I've had enough. You're clearly scamming people. Take it elsewhere.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: themoneymaker on January 27, 2020, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 27, 2020, 05:22:29 AMGreen, you inquired about taking my $100k challenge to prove your system is the HG. Then you send me this:

When I told him to take the challange, he responded saying that you would just take the system and sell it, which would make much more money than $100k.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on January 27, 2020, 06:42:26 PM
I wouldnt sell it. I would use it, and license it via software, as i do with my computers.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on January 28, 2020, 03:58:23 PM
Hi.
I wanted to communicate to all members and routers about Mr. Jhincks.
This man says he has a system to win at roulette and I want to tell you that I bought his system.
First of all tell them that this man is a good person and with good intentions.
also to tell you that what he does is interesting, but I have to make it clear that his system is not a winner just as he does, although he can open the knowledge to look for interesting things, but that cannot be used to win, unless that a progression is used and the limits of that type of game are known.
With this I want to make it clear that your game is not nuanced and is not a winner.
on the other hand if someone wants to pay to know what he does, let him do it, but be clear that they will only learn another way to look for something winner, but not a winning system, which is very different.
But again, he is a good person and his intention is not to scam anyone, but he has to say that what he does is not a finished system.
Well, I just wanted to say what's for his sake and not be told anything bad.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: FreeRoulette on January 29, 2020, 11:28:37 PM
Quote from: mr green on June 30, 2019, 01:28:43 PM
Risking 1000 units to win 1 unit    (Not Red/Black Martingale System)   System doesn't lose

Would you play it?

What is the risk?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Tfd347 on February 02, 2020, 03:23:48 AM
Hi Mr Green, here are my numbers
10
27
28
10
5
22
12
8
27
8
32
13
7
2
23
2
17
12
5
8
20
13
5
26
32
33
7
35
27
9


Thanks