VLS Roulette Forum

Sections => Sections <- (Click HERE for descriptions of below sections) => Swarm's overflow => Topic started by: Swarm on September 02, 2008, 04:09:16 PM

Title: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on September 02, 2008, 04:09:16 PM
Im going to leave here a family of old parachuts, parachuts are tools , not good not bad, what is important is when you use the tool, we change from parachut to parachut when balance tell us , or if we want to lose less because we are losing , or win more because we are winning.

Parachuts come from the pivot system , and Manrique take them from there and use it on his strategy.

Also parachuts honor the law , The one who can do the more , can do the less , then is possible to make a progression without increasing bets.

Parachut Lvl 6

Bet 1 unit on Outside bet (like colors): -1
Bet 1 unit on Outside bet (like colors): -2
Bet 1 unit on Any Docen: -3
Bet 1 unit on any line: -4
Bet 1 unit on any line: -5
Bet 1 unit on any line: -6
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -7
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -8
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 116 numbers bet and fail

Parachut Lvl 5

Bet 1 unit on Any Docen: -1
Bet 1 unit on Any Docen: -2
Bet 1 unit on Any Docen: -3
Bet 1 unit on any line: -4
Bet 1 unit on any line: -5
Bet 1 unit on any line: -6
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -7
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -8
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 104 numbers bet and fail

Parachut Lvl 4 (Manrique Classic parachut)

Bet 1 unit on any line: -1
Bet 1 unit on any line: -2
Bet 1 unit on any line: -3
Bet 1 unit on any line: -4
Bet 1 unit on any line: -5
Bet 1 unit on any line: -6
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -7
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -8
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 86 numbers bet and fail

Parachut Lvl 3

Bet 1 unit on any corner: -1
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -2
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -3
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -4
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -5
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -6
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -7
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -8
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 74 numbers bet and fail

Parachut Lvl 2

Bet 1 unit on any street: -1
Bet 1 unit on any street: -2
Bet 1 unit on any street: -3
Bet 1 unit on any street: -4
Bet 1 unit on any street: -5
Bet 1 unit on any street: -6
Bet 1 unit on any street: -7
Bet 1 unit on any street: -8
Bet 1 unit on any street: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 65 numbers bet and fail

Parachut Lvl 1

Bet 1 unit on any split: -1
Bet 1 unit on any split: -2
Bet 1 unit on any split: -3
Bet 1 unit on any split: -4
Bet 1 unit on any split: -5
Bet 1 unit on any split: -6
Bet 1 unit on any split: -7
Bet 1 unit on any split: -8
Bet 1 unit on any split: -9
Bet 1 unit on any split: -10
Bet 1 unit on any split: -11
Bet 1 unit on any split: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 53 numbers bet and fail










Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: ChickenDinner on September 02, 2008, 04:17:13 PM
Hi Swarm

What is suggested as a good method to select the number?

CD
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on September 02, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
Your feelings......

There is not a good selection over another , all will hit what is has to hit on long terms, you can play what it make you win , or your favorite number, or any number , to manrique bet selection are useless, they only work to make you feel safe , like you are playing something sure, but the only constant is change, and nothing is for sure.

Swarm.
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: ChickenDinner on September 02, 2008, 04:53:21 PM
I agree, I don't think there is any method that favours another for single number selection. I sometimes pick hot numbers, or simply the last number spun. At least that way I feel better in the knowledge that I'm not selecting a sleeping number...as most of us know, there are nearly always a couple of numbers that stay sleeping for about a 100 spins or so. I've witness 1 number sleeping for over 500 spins. Of course someone else might argue that a sleeper is more likely to show...

CD
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: xman1970 on September 02, 2008, 07:14:03 PM
Betting a sleeper after it has woken (The Waker System) is the way Mr.J bets....

& with some success..... 8)
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on September 02, 2008, 07:31:28 PM
Quote from: xman1970 on September 02, 2008, 07:14:03 PM
Betting a sleeper after it has woken (The Waker System) is the way Mr.J bets....

& with some success..... 8)

Some times will work , some times it will not work , sleepers after they awake , can become pointers, or they can sleep again or they can just have a short life , or anything.

Any posible combination will happend with the sleeper after this one awake , so is equal to any other bet selection, humans we can not change the natural odds each time you make a bet , you will have same odds than everyone else for that amount of numbers.

Swarm.
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: xman1970 on September 02, 2008, 07:34:41 PM
point taken Swarm  ;)

I just find Waker systems very interesting.......  8)

Thx for your comments so far very informed.....


Appreciated  ;)
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Tok2Dahand on November 03, 2008, 07:37:41 AM
I'm loving all this wisdom from Manrique... Great stuff!

One quick question about the parachutes....  Is a parachute always played to the end or only until profit?

Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: hamsup_sotong on November 03, 2008, 10:54:25 AM
hey guys ... just a quick question .. would it be possible to parachute a 5 number sector?

cheers
Hams
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: ChickenDinner on November 03, 2008, 03:30:03 PM
Hi Hams,

If the numbers are spread all over the table, you could start on the double streets, then single, corners, splits, etc, so yes - it can be done, although I think 4 is probably the max, depending on the location of the numbers on the table.

Cheers,
CD
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: hamsup_sotong on November 04, 2008, 03:18:39 AM
hi chicken din din

cheers for the tip. hows the testing coming along?

Hams
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: toby on November 10, 2008, 09:02:19 AM
Hi swarm, do you recommend using the parachuting technique 2, 3 or 4 times at the same time at the same layout?

Ex for Parachut Lvl 6: 3 players play on 1 to 18.

Player #1 after losing 3 times plays from 1 to 12
P#2 from 4 to 15
P#3 from 7 to 18

When they lose playing on dozen they pick 1 different line(6 numbers) each.

And so on...

They all stop in any hit with profit.

Just an idea if it works.

What do yo think?



Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Breeze88 on June 29, 2009, 12:26:23 PM
Hi Swarm .. Welcome Back  :thumbsup:


a question .. waht do you mean we change from parachute to parachute wehn balance tells us ??


you mean if we lose level 6 parachute we move to para 5 .. if we loose para 5 we move to para 6 and so on ???

thnx


cheerz
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on June 29, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
Hello Toby , you hit on the next step of the parachuts, soon I will post parachuting A, to give some basic ideas on the use of combined parachuts, and also how to start adding this to other manrique tools and other personal tools that I will leave on this forum.

If you study the use of combined parachuts just by themselfs you will find that is not enough, we have to add all else.

And our most valuable key is the common sense.

Swarm.
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Breeze88 on June 29, 2009, 12:50:38 PM
Hi Swarm


very interresting those parachutes .. and i relly want to learn the parachute techniques and how to apply them combined ..

also it would be damn cool , if we can apply parachutes to disc based playings .. like hot sectors and stuff ..
where we cover 5 pockets.. for example..

looking forward to hear from you...


cheerz
Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on June 29, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
"a question .. waht do you mean we change from parachute to parachute wehn balance tells us ??


you mean if we lose level 6 parachute we move to para 5 .. if we lose para 5 we move to para 6 and so on "

To Breeze88:

If you are losing the one thing that you should not do is bet more or risk more, insted try it backwards, and the worst thing that can happend is that you lose less if you lose.

So moving to lvl5 when a lvl6 give you loses, is risking more when you are losing, a pattern that the perfect loser follow.

If you are losing, risk less , or leave, and when you drive back home you will still have something on your pocket.

Swarm.

Title: Re: Old Parachut Family
Post by: Swarm on July 09, 2009, 04:44:30 AM
Quote from: Tok2Dahand on November 03, 2008, 07:37:41 AM
I'm loving all this wisdom from Manrique... Great stuff!

One quick question about the parachutes....  Is a parachute always played to the end or only until profit?



Until profit then when u hit u reset the parachut.

Also you dont have to stay to lose the 36 chips you can leave before losing all.

Manrique said:

"Leave when your stomatch tell you"

This look like fool but is very deep.


Swarm.
Title: parachut lvl 7
Post by: Swarm on July 09, 2009, 05:20:11 PM
old Parachut Lvl 7

Bet .5 unit on 2 diferent docens (cover 24 numbers):  -1
Bet 1 unit on Outside bet (like colors): -2
Bet 1 unit on Any Docen: -3
Bet 1 unit on any line: -4
Bet 1 unit on any line: -5
Bet 1 unit on any line: -6
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -7
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -8
Bet 1 unit on any corner: -9
Bet 1 unit on any street: -10
Bet 1 unit on any street: -11
Bet 1 unit on any street: -12
Bet 1 unit on any split: -13
Bet 1 unit on any split: -14
Bet 1 unit on any split: -15
Bet 1 unit on any split: -16
Bet 1 unit on any split: -17
Bet 1 unit on any split: -18
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -20
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -21
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -22
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -23
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -24
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -25
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -26
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -27
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -28
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -29
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -30
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -31
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -32
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -33
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -34
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -35
Bet 1 unit on any straight: -36

When lose will be 122 numbers bet and fail

Just another tool.

Swarm.