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Title: Smart Live Casino
Post by: catchme on December 09, 2008, 01:15:30 PM
Had a look into this one and it looked reasonable.

Live wheel and bets from 1 - 1500, nice I thought  :-[

So deposited £40 and didnt put in an bonus code ( it looks like you have to play the full deposit+bonusx15 ) before you can get any off your own money back out.  >:(

No problem as was just gonna martingale from £1 to try it out. Then ANY EVENS BETS IE 1:1 YOU HAVE TO PUT A MINIMUM OF £10 ON! ( ok its in the T&C's if you look close enough ) - STUFF THAT!!!!!

Just a warning....

Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 09, 2008, 01:53:42 PM
catchme

What casino?

I'd like to see if they take U.S. citizens.

Sam
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: catchme on December 09, 2008, 02:45:57 PM
zzz.smartlivecasino.com

think its uk only though  :-\
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: VLSroulette on December 09, 2008, 03:33:50 PM
Bet 3 double-streets, like this:

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg207.imageshack.us%2Fimg207%2F6695%2Flimitsminec01bi1.jpg&hash=043d0c1c92bff9bede9cadc9bfbc06f46e2d0206)

(Taken from: "Faking" minimum and maximum bets + spread (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/live-roulette-casinos/faking-minimum-and-maximum-bets-plus-spread/msg11029/#msg11029)

Best regards.
Victor
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: catchme on December 09, 2008, 05:16:07 PM
Did see this but it didnt make sense till now.

so that 'coverage' is the same as putting 1.50 on low ( can do the same with high ) and you would get 3 return I presume?

if Im correct...

Is there any way to do this with blacks, reds, odds, evens please?

This is why Im the padawan and your the yoda!  :-X
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 09, 2008, 07:10:07 PM
They do not allow Americans to even view the site!
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: trylobit on December 24, 2008, 10:18:54 AM
Hi!

Maybe it's a little it off topic, but what's with the dividing world in americans and rest of world?
Why some casinos restric that no citizen of usa can use it?
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: mistarlupo on December 24, 2008, 11:19:23 AM
Laws. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: roules on December 28, 2008, 07:56:32 PM
It's not so much that casinos ban American players it's that Americans are largely banned from on-line gambling. They passed this law about two years ago I think one reason was there were too many scams going on, and therefore too many complaints going to their fair trade dept (or equivalent). A good argument I read was a person can still gamble over the phone, ie place a bet on a horse through a bookie but the computer also uses a phone line (unless you're using cable) so what's the difference?
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: VLSroulette on December 29, 2008, 06:16:32 PM
Quote from: trylobit on December 24, 2008, 10:18:54 AM
Hi!

Maybe it's a little it off topic, but what's with the dividing world in americans and rest of world?
Why some casinos restric that no citizen of usa can use it?

Some information regarding the ban is here:
nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling (nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling)

Regards.
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 29, 2008, 07:24:03 PM
All......

We have the ban in the U.S. because some holier-than-thou senators feel that Sam and his ilk should not be allowed to sit in the comfort of their home, pet their dog and wait for a crossing.  However, Sam can spend money to fly to Vegas and loose his entire 401k at a single bet!  Or he can toddle off to the local Indian casinos and loose his arse over the period of years!  He can buy all the lottery tickets he wants and play the horses at Remington Park.  Just keep him off the internet.  Why?

No flights.  No hotels.  No meals.  No taxis. No profit for the State of Oklahoma.  No profit for the Indian tribes.  No money to local horsemen.  No take for Remington Park. 

You see, it's OK for Sam to loose his money, he just must loose it the right way!

Walls will fall!

Sam
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: Marven on December 30, 2008, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 29, 2008, 07:24:03 PM
All......

We have the ban in the U.S. because some holier-than-thou senators feel that Sam and his ilk should not be allowed to sit in the comfort of their home, pet their dog and wait for a crossing.  However, Sam can spend money to fly to Vegas and lose his entire 401k at a single bet!  Or he can toddle off to the local Indian casinos and lose his arse over the period of years!  He can buy all the lottery tickets he wants and play the horses at Remington Park.  Just keep him off the internet.  Why?

No flights.  No hotels.  No meals.  No taxis. No profit for the State of Oklahoma.  No profit for the Indian tribes.  No money to local horsemen.  No take for Remington Park. 

You see, it's OK for Sam to lose his money, he just must lose it the right way!

Walls will fall!

Sam

Last week, me and my classmates have been informed by our university (I study English) of a program organized by the American embassy which consists of a writing contest followed by a certain selection of winners who are to be sent to study in the U.S.

Everyone has been very excited about this except me. I said I wouldn't do it even if I was paid to, much to my professors' and classmates' surprise.

If only I could explain it to them when they asked me 'why not?' ;D

Thanks for confirming my choice Samster, and hope that wall falls someday.

Cheers,
Marven
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: mistarlupo on December 30, 2008, 04:55:39 PM
Marven,
Hahhhhah, we are all proud of you, mate! :D
No offense dear fellow Yankees... :)

Regards,
m
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 30, 2008, 05:01:38 PM
Marven

Your post raises an interesting question.  Could a resident of another country live in the U.S.A. and bet on the internet?  Only citizens of the U.S. are banned; not visitors.  Suppose you had an account with Dublin and you logged on from my computer using my Open VPN tunnel and they thought you were sitting in Ireland or the UK.  What then?

Sam

Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: Marven on December 30, 2008, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 30, 2008, 05:01:38 PMOnly citizens of the U.S. are banned; not visitors. 

Really? I didn't know that to be honest.
Then why would I need to use a VPN?

I thought the casinos would detect your IP address and if it's American, then they automatically wouldn't let you play regardless of your nationality.

Well, I think this is worth some investigation.

Cheers Samster!
Marven
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on December 30, 2008, 10:18:46 PM
Sam,
Then would it work that I (living in the uk)could open an account at Dublinbet and give you the details to use on your pc in the states?
Not that we would condone such action of course  ::)
TSK
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: trylobit on December 30, 2008, 10:39:41 PM
Well I think they chack the IP, because I registered at centrebet and I gave them my address in UK.
I'm right now in Poland for holidays and they mailed me straight away, that my IP is from Poland and they asked for explanation...
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: Marven on December 30, 2008, 11:40:14 PM
That's exactly what I thought.

The best thing to do when traveling would then be to open a new account with the same casino each time your IP address changes.

Oh and avoid going to the U.S. ::)

Or maybe purchase a dedicated VPN and use it when accessing the casinos, so that wherever you are they will still see you as one IP address.
Does it work? I have no idea. You said you're using one Sam, aren't you?

Cheers,
Marven
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2008, 02:39:10 AM
Marven

Yes, I use a proxy so I can log on to any casino.  They will view me as being in the UK.  I could do it here and have a second screen name.  The problem is one cannot fund the account at the casino.  Also, you must furnish I.D. of about three kinds.

TKS

Yes, I could open an account.  In fact, I have about three around the world.  But could someone fund my account?  Very doubtful.  They simply require too much proof.  I spent several hundred dollars trying this.  I doubt it can be done unless some big money is involved.

Sam
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on December 31, 2008, 06:35:19 AM
Sam,
Thats a shame.Still worth giving it some thought whilst Im perfecting my exit strategy for 4selecta  :o
Regards TSK
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: trylobit on December 31, 2008, 08:15:32 AM
I think there are some people that travel a lot (me personally mostly between UK and Poland).
I think it can get quite annoying if the casino would bother you every time your IP is not from the country
you have registered.

Fortunately I play at joyland as far because of low bets they allow, so it doesn't bother me :P

Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2008, 01:48:44 PM
trylobit

The thing is, most of them have a "blocker" which sees your I.P. and won't even let you go a step further.  A box pops up and says you are from the U.S.A.  Now if you were set up in your home country, came to the U.S. and used a proxy, they would never know a thing.  Proxys cost about $150 or so a year for a good one that will not drop you every five minutes.  FindNot.com is excellent.

Sam
Title: Re: Smart Live Casino
Post by: roules on December 31, 2008, 11:31:18 PM
QuoteThe thing is, most of them have a "blocker" which sees your I.P. and won't even let you go a step further.  A box pops up and says you are from the U.S.A.

Thank god for modern technology..... ::)