;D 8)
further explanations
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p.s. I was playing starting bankroll 100 units , 6 numbers play for 6 spins progression 1 1 1 1 1 1, if looses than the next spins 6 2 2 2 2 2 2. that's the progression,
remember the easiest systems are and wil be the best , I studied numeris 2 years , al stuff , from VISUAL BALISTIC , to progressions of various type. But the easiest stuff remains the best.
Best Regards ( the explanation of the system will come soon )
Ales
I think this deserves some further investigation :)
What are the units to be used for each?
Ales,
This sounds interesting, please do continue to explain.
BR
Kingpin
But, if the numbers sleeps...what happens. Sometimes numbers can sleep over 400 spins...then system will fail.
The other thing, how to choose numbers...do you change them always, when it hits...
I guess pick the last 6 numbers spun ans play them for 12 spins total?
May be somebody can make the test with real numbers...
Ales has stated he WILL explain the system, so why not just wait guys ????
BTW, many thx Ales for sharing.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
xman
I've been worried about you. Fraid you partied too much at Christmas and was in jail!!
Sam
hehehe @ 2 Cats
Nothing so exciting my friend, internet has been down since 27th December, that all :-[
just catching up on all that I have missed.....
I tried something similar with nine numbers, but, as Handsome1 said, when the numbers sleep you lose. :-[
Maybe with a steeper progression it would work, dunno.
am i missing something here. 6 by 6 = 36.
;)Pins, you do not have to win every bet. When flat betting, the sixth spin will be breaking even. This is more than acceptable. So in other words we aim for at least even on the 6th bet and live to fight for the next selection.
Cheers
Jakk
..???? where is @ ales
I think he could bring some light in the dark!!!!
Perhaps he plays the last six numbers...like
1,2,3,4,5,6
number 7 is thrown
then 2,3,4,5,6,7
number 20 is thrown,
he plays 3,4,5,6,7,20
number 30 is thrown
he plays 4,5,6,7,20, 30
NUMBer 6 is thrown
HURRAY!!!! won that bet and begin a new game!!
Best regards
kawa4711
Hi Ales,
Could you post the RX code please?
Thanks,
Gaza
hi all!
u should look at the numbers and their connections just as in the square of the sun. >:D
i believe the square of the sun is the key to beating roulette.
regards. T.P
devide the square of the sun into 4 sections of 9 numbers, use those numbers as you would with your calculater 789
456
123
Hello to all!
The system basically consists in tracking 12 spins , finding 2 streets that hitted exactly twice, for example
19x 19-20-21
21x 19-20-21
22
25
12x 10-11-12
29
16
13
12x 10-11-12
1
8
36
here we see that streets 19 20 21 and 10 11 12 , hitted both exacly 2 TIMES, so because of the law of the third they will rehit in the next 12 spins(second cycle)
21W
25
13
34
29
3
12W
13
6
16
34
I USUALLY PLAY , UNTIL THE FIRST WIN AND THEN RETRACK BACK AGAIN.
THIS IS THE LAW OF THE THIRD BASED ON STREETS.
Comments will be well accepted.
Cheers,
ales :)
I forgot, it can be also played with 9 numbers if we see 3 streets , wich each of them hitted exacly 2 times, so we will play 9 numbers with the same concept until the win wich will come.
Cheers
how do you get the 1.1.1.1.1.1.. two streets .
1 chip on each number, or one chip on street, I do not see the difficulty here friend, depends on the bankroll you got, let's say you need for this system 25chips, so 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3, if we play two different streets, just bet on different streets. exampe you do not play 1 eur , but 0.50 eur on 2 streets
hi ales
how often do you find that these 2 streets do repeat again in the next 12 spins?
90% of the time?
obviously its not a garuntee....
i was just wondering how often you notice it?
ure BR graph's look pretty promising, its a very simple system to follow
Hello ales,
Thanks for your system.If a street hit 1 or more than 2 times, I believe you do not bet on it.You only bet on streets that hit exactly 2 times.After 12 spins, if only 1 street hit 2 times,I assume you do not bet and start tracking for new signals.If more that 3 streets qualify, you will skip the bets and start tracking for new signals.You only bet if and only if 2 or 3 streets qualifies within the 12 spins.You always start tracking new after a hit or after 12 losses in a row.Please advice if I am wrong.
Thanks & regards
sniper
Hi sniper you got it my friend, you must follow 12 spins, and see exacly 2 or 3 streets that hits two times( this happens a lot just check on permaneces) it is a sure bet. and anyway sometimes if you have only 1 street hitting 2 times I do not play nothing simply go on on search for the right condition, so in this system you play from 6 to 9 numbers. On eof the streets will repeat because of the law of the third on 12 diferentials on a cycle of 12+12=24.
Cheers,
ales 8) ;)
hi ales.
nice system mate, thanx for sharing, so far no losses :thumbsup:
i also been following numeris for almost 2 years now, so i now what u mean by the cycles 12+12=24.
Quote from: TOPCAT on January 08, 2009, 08:19:28 PM
devide the square of the sun into 4 sections of 9 numbers, use those numbers as you would with your calculater 789
456
123
Hi Topcat,
Can you put an example test how you use it???
Cheers,
JLP.-
Hi Ales,
Thx for sharing this way of playing...... :thumbsup:
One question pls, what progression do you play when betting 9 numbers for up to 12 spins ?
Again thank you..... ;)
Thankyou for posting Ales.
The progression of 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 will lose money
Betting 2 streets
Bet 1 2units +10
Bet 2 2units +8
Bet 3 2units +6
Bet 4 2units +4
Bet 5 2units +2
Bet 6 4units +10
Bet 7 4units +6
Bet 8 4units +2
Bet 9 4units -2
Bet 10 6units +4
Bet 11 6units -2
Bet 12 6units -8
Those are the numbers playing the two streets starting with 1unit per street. I like the system and well continue to research it more.
Its late here but i think the progression would need to be
1 +5
1 +4
1 +3
1 +2
1 +1
2 +5
2 +3
2 +1
3 +4
3 +1
4 +3
5 +4
hi JLP.
yes i shall start a new thread on this.
hi xman, i think a progression for 9 numbers would be 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 7 9 13 17 :)
I THINK THAT NOBODY HAS UNDERSTOOD THE POWER OF THIS SYSTEM
AHHH ,
Hello ales,
Sorry for being slow to response. I believe your system is promising and is still testing it.I have to do it manually and it takes some time to achieve any result.Your system is well explained and not complicated and probably that's the reason why no one seems to ask further.We will definitely come back for more discussion should we discover or achieve interesting result.
Regards
sniper
My Dear Ales,
Never under estimate the power of force! :) Thanks!
best regards,
LeBear
I'd like to try this system.
Dinh
Just wanted to say that in my opinion it is a good system , not 100% , but it will win more than loose , that for sure.
Quote from: ales on January 25, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
I THINK THAT NOBODY HAS UNDERSTOOD THE POWER OF THIS SYSTEM
AHHH ,
SERACH SERACH ON OTHERS....
Hi Ales,
Why do you say so?
Is there anything else than what you say in this thread?
Cheers,
Dinh
For those who searches for PERFECTION!!!
Dear friends and users of a forum... I wish to explain the important detail =PERFECTION is not system, not a method which gives 100 % a prize, Perfection is much more, this REAL READING of ALL THAT MOVES IN the UNIVERSE!!! Methods which will give you a prize much, but PERFECTION = ONE!!!
Cheers,
Gamlet.
Hello Gamlet,
Great post!!! You are a man of Wisdom.
Regards
sniper
Each number = this alive, dynamic essence! You should get acquainted with numbers, learn their character, make friends with them..., it is exact as with the person!!! Essence of numbers = here, that you should understand! Each number makes other numbers in an interval 36+1 rotation (a full cycle)! And if you знайте:1) what numbers each number 2) makes an exact times (spins) where those numbers gather. Then you can challenge to destiny!!! But know, that some, concrete numbers (for example number 9) = whimsical and имееют the tendency to be late is a little!!!
That you did not think, that Gamlet only speaks the theory... Here to you a concrete example:
Number 36 = makes precisely 0.13.26.31.35.36. (Pascal)
Now you observe time (12 spins = that interval in 36 spins), where you should insert the made numbers to receive 2 and more victories!!! You observe, analyze rotations and find an exact times for this purpose 6 numbers!!!
Сhees,
Gamlet.
P.S. Точно также как число 36 , остальные числа производят другие числа !!!
hello everyone!new roulette enthousiast here:)
so i tried manually with roulette xtreme ales's system spin by spin.the results are little primitive,i dont know to make a system with software and run it so...
1st session,starting bankroll 100$ after 105 spins -405$ playing only with 5$chips
2session,bankroll 100,after 160 spins 235$
i played with 11111-2222-333 for 2 streets
and 111-22-33 for 3 streets
in how many sessions do you think we can have an objective statistic result?
PS what Gamlet says sounds very interesting,but i dont get it,what we do with the six numbers?
example:
6-10-2008
13,8,30,,34,31,29,4,0,30,7,27,12,2,28,10,30,
31,23,15,16,15,26,14,0,19,30,22,23,6,0,27,17,
10,17,26,20,24,27,16,34,1,23,26,25,12,2,1,6,2,
15,23,16,14,15,26,32,4,6,18,8,14,24,20,15,28,
35,29,14,26,19,1,14,17,32,1,14,31,5,7,25,22,3,
36,30,16,18,5,29,7,24,4,12,6,34,31,26,30,15,18,
17,35,22,17,28,34,19,7,28,7,9,28,23,7,5,33,0,22,
4,27,1 ( 36+1 spins) 13,26,3,23,14,20,26,13,16,4,27,32,11,4,27,
11,29,31,2,22,8,10,32,36,24,32,3,31,14,7,22,26,
13,1,2,20,8,34,26,11
9-10-08
15,9,18,19,6,30,23,25,34,15,16,25,28,1,36,21,15,21,
10,24,15,35,7,4,10,6,27,24,32,26,2,21,21,12,29,14,
34,22,9,11,22,2,25,8,16,5,34,26,12,25,0,27 ( 36+1 spins) ,13,1,29,
14,16,6,0,34,0,15,18,1,30,32,28,7,9,13,3,19,20,31,13,
3,4,13,18,30,16,4,13,33,25,15,22,17,27,4,29,4,14,30,2,
2,1,7,0,6,18,17,8,11,4,33,1,25,26,36,27,14,12,10,32,
20,23,13,9,20,13,32,32,3,4,4,0
Number 36 = makes precisely 0.13.26.31.35.36. (Pascal)
Method Pascal has calculated 6 numbers, but here it is necessary to calculate 2 more numbers this method! That who will tell to me these two numbers which I have not shown, that who will tell to me a way which I have calculated these numbers, to that I shall open correct time for this method!!!
Cheers,
Gamlet.
P.S.Number 36 in pair with other numbers yields still other results, and other time for an output, but it already an alternative method!!!
Gamlet
Very interesting ...thank you
TSK
sorry,but i still dont understand,what i see and understand is that when 36 comes, you count 36+1 spins.
in these 37 spins 3 to 5 numbers of 0,13,26,31,35,36 appear,when 36 comes again you count again 37 spins,i cant understand how to put this on practise,how to bet and when?
also 0,13,26,31,35,36 are some special numbers?or is it an example and you work this out with any six numbers?please some light!
last and the thing i dont understand at all!whats the relation between these numbers 0,13,26,31,35,36?
thanks
Quote from: ikarianman on January 27, 2009, 01:59:29 PM
sorry,but I still dont understand,what I see and understand is that when 36 comes, you count 36+1 spins.
in these 37 spins 3 to 5 numbers of 0,13,26,31,35,36 appear,when 36 comes again you count again 37 spins,I cant understand how to put this on practise,how to bet and when?
also 0,13,26,31,35,36 are some special numbers?or is it an example and you work this out with any six numbers?please some light!
last and the thing I dont understand at all!whats the relation between these numbers 0,13,26,31,35,36?
thanks
I answer, with some delay, it is a pity. If you competently organise those numbers which I have given you, after number 36, you win this session! Now I ask you if you know, what these six numbers can appear for 36+1 spins how you will organise the game?
Cheers,
Gamlet.
Ok, you give me some sequences on 15 numbers, where the first numbers=36 !!! I show to you = where it is possible to play, and where it is not to play !!!
Here you go
36
18
20
32
3
24
0
35
5
14
31
23
22
1
2
16
TSK
Welcome back Gamlet :thumbsup:!!
Carlitos 8)
hello Gamlet!the fun is that when i posted this i was a brand new member,but now i am an excellent one!hhehehehe!waited a long time ,,so i cant wait reading your post!
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 02:19:23 PM
Here you go
36
18
20
32
3
24
0
35
5
14
31
23
22
1
2
16
The Spiders Kiss
I asked from you not one, and 2,3,4 ...sequences
This sequence I would not play, because already I see 3 numbers Win !!!
Greetings guys, I am glad to see familiar and new members ! ;)
ok Ill try again :)
36
9
19
23
22
1
3
16
32
20
22
22
13
15
30
21
>>>>>
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
TSK
Sense in that to catch victory numbers in one small group! For this purpose it is necessary to trace 15 spins without numbers of winners then in an interval between 15 and 30 spins will gather numbers victories!
P.S. Two numbers should be added to that group of winners!!!
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 02:48:30 PM
ok Ill try again :)
36
9
19
23
22
1
3
16
32
20
22
22
13
15
30
21
>>>>>
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
The Spiders Kiss
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
----
Here I would play
Here I would play, because I see only one number the winner inside 15 spins!!!
Play 0,13,26,31,35,36 +1.10
Gamlet
You want me to post the next numbers drawn?.how many...?
TSK
How about a demo using Dublinbet numbers?
i am afraid i dont understand..
why u choosed these numbers after the 15 sequence?????i would be very thankfull if it was explained in more detail thanks
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 02:59:53 PM
Gamlet
You want me to post the next numbers drawn?.how many...?
The Spiders Kiss
Victory numbers will gather in the following 15 spins.
But nobody knows there will be victory numbers in the beginning or in the end of these 15 spins!
The only thing that I know that will be a minimum of 3 numbers of a victory, in those 15 spins!
Give continuation 15 spins!
ikarianman .Give continuation 15 spins !
Next 15 spins are:
36
9
19
30
26
10
31
26
16
13
23
5
21
8
11
regards
The Spiders Kiss
actual spins
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
Next 15 spins are:
36
9
19
30
26
10
31
26
16
13
23
5
21
8
11
regards
The Spiders Kiss
actual spins
ikarianman, This continuation of sequence ???
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
ikarianman .Give continuation
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
bet 0,13,26,31,35,36 +1.10
15 spins !
I am not sure what I was supposed to do!I copied these sequence and continue betting the 6 numbers
+122 units after 37 spins.(r xtreme ) statical flatbets on the 6 numbers
The Spiders Kiss It you have given me sequence?!
I thought it have given to me ikarianman....
I was mistaken ;D
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
Next 15 spins are:
36
9
19
30
26
10
31
26
16
13
23
5
21
8
11
regards
The Spiders Kiss
actual spins
The Spiders Kiss
This continuation of that sequence? Or it is new sequence?
HI Gamlet
I think it was the continoue spins...
so there are 3 winners in there ... now wahts next ?? .. also could you please be so kind and tell us alil bit more about your bet selection.. thnx
cheerz
Quote from: Gamlet on April 12, 2009, 03:45:56 PM
The Spiders Kiss
This continuation of that sequence? Or it is new sequence?
This was a continuation Gamlet.
TSK
Quote from: Breeze88 on April 12, 2009, 03:48:13 PM
HI Gamlet
I think it was the continoue spins...
so there are 3 winners in there ... now wahts next ?? .. also could you please be so kind and tell us alil bit more about your bet selection.. thnx
cheerz
It is good, if you speak that this continuation then look how many victories there, in continuation...
QuoteThe Spiders Kiss -> Next 15 spins are:
36W
9
19
30
26W
10W
31W
26W
16
13W
23
5
21
8
11
regards
The Spiders Kiss
actual spins
Here 6 win
I didnt realise number 10 was a winning number :-\
The Spiders Kiss
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on April 12, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
This was a continuation Gamlet.
The Spiders Kiss
Thanks The Spiders Kiss ,
idea of a method = to catch victory numbers inside with 15 on 30 spins!!! For this purpose it is necessary to search for sequence where victory numbers have not appeared in a current of the first 15 spins since number of a key 36! In this case victory numbers gather in an interval 15-30 spins!
In our case there was only one number of a victory in the first 15 spins, therefore I have risked for the following 15 spins!
Quote from: Gamlet on April 12, 2009, 04:04:28 PM
Thanks The Spiders Kiss ,
idea of a method = to catch victory numbers inside with 15 on 30 spins!!! For this purpose it is necessary to search for sequence where victory numbers have not appeared in a current of the first 15 spins since number of a key 36! In this case victory numbers gather in an interval 15-30 spins!
In our case there was only one number of a victory in the first 15 spins, therefore I have risked for the following 15 spins!
No ....thank you Gamlet.But may I ask which numbers you choose to bet?
The Spiders Kiss
I wrote earlier, here:
Quote from: Gamlet on January 27, 2009, 10:55:58 AM
example:
6-10-2008
13,8,30,,34,31,29,4,0,30,7,27,12,2,28,10,30,
31,23,15,16,15,26,14,0,19,30,22,23,6,0,27,17,
10,17,26,20,24,27,16,34,1,23,26,25,12,2,1,6,2,
15,23,16,14,15,26,32,4,6,18,8,14,24,20,15,28,
35,29,14,26,19,1,14,17,32,1,14,31,5,7,25,22,3,
36,30,16,18,5,29,7,24,4,12,6,34,31,26,30,15,18,
17,35,22,17,28,34,19,7,28,7,9,28,23,7,5,33,0,22,
4,27,1 ( 36+1 spins) 13,26,3,23,14,20,26,13,16,4,27,32,11,4,27,
11,29,31,2,22,8,10,32,36,24,32,3,31,14,7,22,26,
13,1,2,20,8,34,26,11
9-10-08
15,9,18,19,6,30,23,25,34,15,16,25,28,1,36,21,15,21,
10,24,15,35,7,4,10,6,27,24,32,26,2,21,21,12,29,14,
34,22,9,11,22,2,25,8,16,5,34,26,12,25,0,27 ( 36+1 spins) ,13,1,29,
14,16,6,0,34,0,15,18,1,30,32,28,7,9,13,3,19,20,31,13,
3,4,13,18,30,16,4,13,33,25,15,22,17,27,4,29,4,14,30,2,
2,1,7,0,6,18,17,8,11,4,33,1,25,26,36,27,14,12,10,32,
20,23,13,9,20,13,32,32,3,4,4,0
Number 36 = makes precisely 0.13.26.31.35.36. (Pascal)
Method Pascal has calculated 6 numbers, but here it is necessary to calculate 2 more numbers this method! That who will tell to me these two numbers which I have not shown, that who will tell to me a way which I have calculated these numbers, to that I shall open correct time for this method!!!
Cheers,
Gamlet.
P.S.Number 36 in pair with other numbers yields still other results, and other time for an output, but it already an alternative method!!!
The Spiders Kiss = Nobody could show me those two numbers! I have opened to you today those two numbers 1 and 10.
@ Gamlet
Then I thank you very much
TSK
Quote from: Gamlet on April 12, 2009, 02:52:53 PM
36
34
21
14
9
30
11
16
33
23
20
9
10
8
33
22
----
Here I would play
Here I would play, because I see only one number the winner inside 15 spins!!!
Play 0,13,26,31,35,36 +1.10
36
20
28
34
8
15
2
23
9
7
6
32
23
27
5
28
a 15 sequence with 36 number as start-real visbaden spins!
now I bet the 6 numbers 0 13 26 31 35 36 an we continue for the next 15 spins
22 L-6
18 L-12
2 L-18
34 L-24
22 L-30
20 L-36
11 L-42
3 L-48
16 -54
23 -60
3 L -66
32 L-72
3 L-78
14 L-84
3 L-90
END 2nd group of 15 spins with our bets on it
That was a bad run..sould we continue after 15 spins? lets see.
36 W -60 UNITS
that was a bad run BUT the first winner came in the 16th spin so we are still ok arent we??
Gamlet whats the theory behind those six numbers?why shoud they be winners??
Hi Ikarianman
I think that Gamlet would have stopped after spin 15 but Im sure no expert on this so maybe he will answer your question upon his return.
But they look like bad ones to me !!!
TSK
Hi Ikarianman
I Think it has something to do with Numerology... ie. Numeris Titanus a women who teached or teaches how to apply numerology to roulette
cheerz
Quote from: ikarianman on April 12, 2009, 04:48:48 PM
36
20
28
34
8
15
2
23
9
7
6
32
23
27
5
28
a 15 sequence with 36 number as start-real visbaden spins!
now I bet the 6 numbers 0 13 26 31 35 36 an we continue for the next 15 spins
22 L-6
18 L-12
2 L-18
34 L-24
22 L-30
20 L-36
11 L-42
3 L-48
16 -54
23 -60
3 L -66
32 L-72
3 L-78
14 L-84
3 L-90
END 2nd group of 15 spins with our bets on it
That was a bad run..sould we continue after 15 spins? lets see.
36 W -60 UNITS
that was a bad run BUT the first winner came in the 16th spin so we are still ok arent we??
Gamlet whats the theory behind those six numbers?why shoud they be winners??
It not real sequence. Such sequence does not happen!!!
You show me 31 number where 15 numbers have fallen asleep,
among the fallen asleep 15 numbers = these 8 numbers!!!
Such does not happen NEVER on modern wheels!!!!(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg512.imageshack.us%2Fimg512%2F2992%2F80746683.png&hash=8317b20a117254d511e6cc16341f2f9de832058c) (nolinks://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=80746683.png)
I do believe that it wont happen also but these are spins that I downloaded from rouleete extreme as real v spins from visbaden,,I have attached them to the file so you can see yourself!I wish that is wrong!
ps! the first 36 appears on spin number 131
Quote from: ikarianman on April 12, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
I do believe that it wont happen also but these are spins that I downloaded from rouleete extreme as real v spins from visbaden,,I have attached them to the file so you can see yourself!I wish that is wrong!
ps! the first 36 appears on spin number 131
I trust you, but I do not trust this file, among the fallen asleep 15 numbers =
these 8 numbers..... I do not have words.
i virtual play online now.26 came on 12th spin!
Hello Gamlet.
Nice to see You posting again.
Lanky.
Quote from: Gamlet on April 12, 2009, 02:42:17 PM
Greetings guys, I am glad to see familiar and new members ! ;)
Me too Gamlet, welcome back. Nice to see you active at the forum helping and sharing with us again. :thumbsup:
Victor
what about using the streets on the wheel?
1 - 32 15 19
2 - 4 21 2
ecc...
Quote from: win3milion@inmydreams.com on November 20, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
what about using the streets on the wheel?
1 - 32 15 19
2 - 4 21 2
ecc...
And what about that??????
...................Iboba 8)
Quote from: Gamlet on April 12, 2009, 05:05:23 PM
It not real sequence. Such sequence does not happen!!!
You show me 31 number where 15 numbers have fallen asleep,
among the fallen asleep 15 numbers = these 8 numbers!!!
Such does not happen NEVER on modern wheels!!!!
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zdarova Gamlet kak u tibja ?? i have just one small question if you dont mind - can you please post all bets from 0 - 36 i see that you bet some numbers after 36.... so what you gona bet after 35.... 34.... and so on i think it can be interesting i did have some work on this example but <><>< long story ..hard work.. to much numbers .. big head from that :) spacibo
Iboba,
It's just an alternative idea to the table layout bet selection used by ales; especially for those like me that prefer betting on the wheel layout instead - anyways I will test it and see what happens :)
regards
Hi Ales are you from Prague? I tested and played your excellent system through the Europe last summer and didn't lose once. I included bets on 1 street coming 2 times in 12 spins and also 3 streets coming 2 times in 12 spins. All of them work like Swiss watch. I think the winning rate on 2 streets is around 99%. Betting 1 or 3 streets is little bit more risky but still winning high. We have to think that way that we are not betting on sleepers but medium effective streets.
Thanks Hermes
Ales, thank you for your "SYSTEM".
4 questions:
1. In times after 12 spins you get only 1 street. Do you play one street only?
2. Once a street is hit. You stated you re-track the number. Meaning starting from the beginning. Is it OK to use spin numbers which were used while we attempting to hit the street? example my streets numbers were 1 and 5. I started to spin and got some numbers outside of the streets, until I hit one of the two streets. Is OK to use those numbers and add them as new number for the process of tracking 12 new numbers?
3. What is your layout odds ? some suggestion was made to use: 11111 2222 333? Please explain yours.
4. In times during tracking the repeated numbers (2 times) we get 3 streets. The winning will be lower because now we invest 3 unit vs 2. Not sure what was your old post about 3 street associated with 9 number can you give an example.
Thanks,
John
The first post shows a screen shot of RX with 250 spins.... 250 spins is most definitely not enough to indicate anything but a pretty picture..
I have graphs of flat betting red 20,000 spins and it been in profit.... even 20k isn't enough..
Hi Poit you have a point. I tested it on more than 1000 live spins and played for real money on around 400 spins.
Tell me your red betting strategy which is in plus after 20,000 live roulette spins (no RNGs) and I will tweak it to be even better.
Cheers Hermes
Thank you Ales. I based my Balance Method on this system and can say it is my most reliable system for the Live Wheel.
Quote from: hermes link=topic=5337. msg95114#msg95114 date=1265512180
Hi Ales are you from Prague? I tested and played your excellent system through the Europe last summer and didn't lose once. I included bets on 1 street coming 2 times in 12 spins and also 3 streets coming 2 times in 12 spins. All of them work like Swiss watch. I think the winning rate on 2 streets is around 99%. Betting 1 or 3 streets is little bit more risky but still winning high. We have to think that way that we are not betting on sleepers but medium effective streets.
Thanks Hermes
Were you using the original progression of 111111 222222?
it looks good
anyone care to RX it and give it a good run for its money on say 10,000 actuals
i got actuals coming out my ears here ,i can give buas wheels or wheels that are just near ti normal
ok take care,,and happy winings
yes im from the darkside ,,,,but no harm in having a peek now and then :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
ok best get back to inputing spin after spin after spin and tracking and traking and ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz :rtfm:
Gamlet in your opinion are there any other numbers that link like the 36 to other numbers??
dj roulette
Here are some actuals from dubinbet
31
34
7
32
11
3
5
22
11
22
4
6
16
21
2
25
9
20
14
25
27
19
25
3
36
10 bet 0,13,26,31,35,36 -6
21 -12
32-18
12-24
26+6
240
33-6
35+30
26+60
3+54
26+ 84
those were the numbers taken from one table. sadly there were not enough to complete the full 15 spins.
32
25
26
11
31
5
33
24
11
34
17
20
30
31
26
16
4
14
36
12 bet 0,13,26,31,35,36
27 -6
12-12
10-18
16-24
23-30
32-36
12-42
6-48
21-54
33-60
34-66
0-36
30-42
23-48
so here we show a loss of 48. i don't know whether im on the right lines or not anybody know?
17
26
4
5
10
2
11
14
36
36 bet 0,13,26,31,35,36 +30
12 +24
13+54
1+48
29+42
23+72
14+66
19+60
23+90
23+120
20+114
25+108
20+102
21+96
21+90
9
1
35
5
1
22
31
16
14
29
1
20
so far this seems quite volatile. we shall see
21
36
23 bet 0,13,26,31,35,36 -6
10 -12
15-18
27-24
2-30
30-36
11-42
14-48
13-18
31 +12
30+6
13+36
21+30
25+24
14+18
6+12
15
33
26
14
25
20
13
30
24
28
27
32
2
3
15
34
26
26
would be interesting to see what gamlet makes of these results and numbers
dj roulette
What are we talking here? ??? :-\ two different systems i see, Ales and Gamlet systems.
Which ones work well? it should be discussed separately.
Someone have played with real money Ales system, works?
Quote from: kattila link=topic=5337. msg95491#msg95491 date=1265899865
What are we talking here? ??? :-\ two different systems I see, Ales and Gamlet systems.
Which ones work well? it should be discussed separately.
Someone have played with real money Ales system, works?
Yes this is getting very confusing. . this should be Ales topic because he started it and the other one should be a new one. I´ve been testing Ales system by hand and will try it in the Casino here in Colombia because the bank roll will only cost me a 4 bucks or so and it will be nice to test real wheel.
Quote from: Rebirtha on February 11, 2010, 01:36:48 PM
Yes this is getting very confusing. . this should be Ales topic because he started it and the other one should be a new one. I´ve been testing Ales system by hand and will try it in the Casino here in Colombia because the bank roll will only cost me a 4 bucks or so and it will be nice to test real wheel.
well said :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
usually it does work. but in Dublinbet i tested 3 streets in 12 spins and it failed miserably. So the conditions should be right: exactly 2 streets only in 12 spins or 3 streets only in 9 spins. No less, no more. I still have doubts what happens lets say if there were 3 streets in 12 spins and then one of them won, can we play the other 2. I think we can. I tried it, it worked.
Failed miserably today at the casino.. the original betting of 111111 222222 doesn´t make sense either, you would lose money betting that way.
Rebirtha, was it 2 streets within 12 spins? did u count how long they were sleeping after? I hope u did not lose too much money bro :(
Quote from: Rebirtha on February 11, 2010, 09:08:52 PM
Failed miserably today at the casino.. the original betting of 111111 222222 doesn´t make sense either, you would lose money betting that way.
Yeah I was waiting for for two streets after 12 spins.. some came out 13 or 14.. didn´t lose to much I´m using colombian pesos which are pretty cheap.
how about marking 3 numbers sectors on a wheel and tracking them? i guess it will be even harder and more boring than tracking 2 streets in 12 spins
Quote from: Gamlet link=topic=5337. msg37084#msg37084 date=1233056063
Number 36 = makes precisely 0. 13. 26. 31. 35. 36. (Pascal)
Can anyone tell how he got this numbers? Thanks. :smile:
Wagering on 6 numbers is mathematically the same as betting on a six-line. I use two manners. Wait a sixline hasnot fallen the last 12 spins or a six-line hasnot repeated.
Betting scheme 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-5.
You expect a hit every 23 spin row.
Quote from: Gamlet link=topic=5337. msg37084#msg37084 date=1233056063
Each number = this alive, dynamic essence! You should get acquainted with numbers, learn their character, make friends with them. . . , it is exact as with the person!!! Essence of numbers = here, that you should understand! Each number makes other numbers in an interval 36+1 rotation (a full cycle)! And if you знайте:1) what numbers each number 2) makes an exact times (spins) where those numbers gather. Then you can challenge to destiny!!! But know, that some, concrete numbers (for example number 9) = whimsical and имееют the tendency to be late is a little!!!
That you did not think, that Gamlet only speaks the theory. . . Here to you a concrete example:
Number 36 = makes precisely 0. 13. 26. 31. 35. 36. (Pascal)
Now you observe time (12 spins = that interval in 36 spins), where you should insert the made numbers to receive 2 and more victories!!! You observe, analyze rotations and find an exact times for this purpose 6 numbers!!!
Сhees,
Gamlet.
P. S. Точно также как число 36 , остальные числа производят другие числа !!!
Quote from: marivo link=topic=5337. msg141438#msg141438 date=1321019764
Can anyone tell how he got this numbers? Thanks. :smile:
Quote from: schoenpoetser link=topic=5337. msg141547#msg141547 date=1321438080
Wagering on 6 numbers is mathematically the same as betting on a six-line. I use two manners. Wait a sixline hasnot fallen the last 12 spins or a six-line hasnot repeated.
Betting scheme 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-5.
You expect a hit every 23 spin row.
But how he chose those numbers?
Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and roulette. This is my first post so be nice to me, lol. Hope you all having fun.
I'm still confused as to how this system works.
So you wait after 12 spins and look for 2 streets which has occured once or twice, then what?
Can someone explain in plain English without any jargons?
Really appreciate it, thanks in advance.
10
8
3
10*
1
12
7
1*
12*
2
3*
2* (not a playable set because of more than 3 qualifiers)
--
11
5
7
6
3
5*
7*
2
4
9
9*
8 (3 qualifiers and a playable set)
--
3
7 winner. (+6 total gain)
9 (winner but not played because of reset)
5 (winner but not played because of reset)
7
12
4
5
6
4
11
3
--
I used to play this Amazin, it's easy to follow.
Mark a set of 12 streets. You are looking for either 2 or 3 of the streets to come up ONLY twice. Then you will play them over the next set of 12 spins looking for a hit. You stop once you get a hit and restart a new game.
The progression that you use is up to you.
Looking at the above examples:
There are too many qualifiers in the first set of 12 streets. (5 to be excact) So on to the next set of 12 streets. There are 3 qualifiers this time and that is ok to start betting on the next set of 12 streets. A win comes on the second spin. Funnily enough, all the 3 qualifiers hit one after the other but you only play for one win and start again if you want to follow Ales rules to the letter.
Hope this helps. It is certainly no HG but a bit of fun and you can't get hurt too much playing this way.
Cheers.
Thank you so much for your detailed response. I won £160 in an hour few days ago playing it online using the red and black system. After some more studying, I realised that it can be dangerous and eventually the system will catch up with me. This is why I'm starting to look for an alternative system.
Would this system work in a real casino? I want to get paid the same day so will go down the local casino and play it there.
So once I pick a street to bet on based on the last 12 spins, e. g. 7-8-9 that came up twice in the last 12 spins, I put £1 on each of those numbers, then and repeat until I hit? Is that right? or do I put £2 on each number then £3 on each number if miss?
Hi my first post on here so hello to all. I am reading as much as possible in order to be successful at roulette. Gamlet's posts have caught my eye as someone to follow, unfortunately he hasen't been on this forum for quite a while.In this thread he writes about 2 extra numbers in addition to the Pascal numbers , does anyone know how he calculates these 2 extra numbers ? Any help would be much appreciated.
Unluckily for all of us the law of third is not useful for beating roulette.
-It has been found out by Pascal,that invented roulette too.Does it mean that Pascal invented roulette and a law for beating it?I don't think so
-In all math Forums,the law of third ,that we find in a lot of situation of our life,it is considered a curiosity of math,true,but not relevant
-it is in big contradiction with the independency of spins,when all numbers have always the same probability to hit at every spin
-the law of third has existed for 250 years.Casino are still open...
Morning all,
And how is this system holding up for anyone who is using it?
(I'm off to work however I have a question to ask regarding this way of playing)
Chez
this method is not better than many others. it's not a holy grail, believe me. Otherwise everybody would play it and the whole world would talk about it. And casinos would finally ban it.
But there are no holy grails, my friend.
Quote from: iggiv on January 29, 2013, 06:19:58 AM
this method is not better than many others. it's not a holy grail, believe me. Otherwise everybody would play it and the whole world would talk about it. And casinos would finally ban it.
But there are no holy grails, my friend.
My main question on this is of you're covering 2 streets, why are you flat betting and not just covering both streets with a chip each? Thats like saying laying down £6 for a £36 win resulting in £30 profit, while you can cover 6 numbers with £2 resulting in a £18 return giving you a £16 profit. The profit percentage is higher in your winnings? Or are my maths completely off?
Chez
Quote from: BCShad0w on January 29, 2013, 11:02:25 AM
My main question on this is of you're covering 2 streets, why are you flat betting and not just covering both streets with a chip each? Thats like saying laying down £6 for a £36 win resulting in £30 profit, while you can cover 6 numbers with £2 resulting in a £18 return giving you a £16 profit. The profit percentage is higher in your winnings? Or are my maths completely off?
Chez
Apologies for the double post - Could not edit my original.
Just correcting my maths as this morning I looked at Split not Street and therefore my math at top if incorrect.
Either way you're looking to make 5x profit ((£36 - £6)/6) and ((£12 - £2)/5). I suppose it's all about bank roll?