VLS Roulette Forum

I've been wondering if there are any site which allow U.S residents to play live roulette for real money with no problems connecting/depositing/withdrawing etc:.  If anyone from the U.S here please help.  Thanks in advance~

Bella Vegas  Part of the Grand Prive Group

I deposited with my Visa Debit Card.  Or my Citi Mastercard.  Been so long I forgot.

I have had no problems.

Sam

By the way, there is Riverbelle if you want to make some bigger bets.

Hey Sam.  I remember you referred me to Bella Vegas.  I signed up with them and made a deposit of $50 and lost it to rng as they told me the Live wheel is not available for U.S residents??  But i remember you telling me that your playing on their live wheel?  I'm kinds lost with them and doesn't sound right. 

Hayaatt

I play on their wheel all the time--when I have time.  Perhaps I should call them and ask.  This discrepancy is worrying me.  Are you sure they are not just talking about progressive games?  They are not available.

Sam

I have e-mailed support:

I have recommended your casino to several friends.  I was just told by one of
them that you no longer accept American players for the live games such as
roulette and Baccarat.  Is this true?

I play there at least once a week. 

Please answer as soon as possible as people are wanting on your site.

Sam


I'll let you know the answer I get.

Sam

Thanks Sam I appreciate the help.

It was about a month ago I played on their site and they told me they no longer allowed U.S players to play on live roulette wheel...and when i asked when it started they told me it like "just" started.  I couldn't connect to the live wheel which is when I asked support and that's the answer they gave me. 

I too have checked on Bella Vegas Casino and River Belle Casino and both are no longer accepting US Players.  I am searching for a live wheel or a system that works on a RNG Wheel.  I do not know if it is just me but it seems everytime I try any one of the systems the session starts off great, but then bamb! Its like the computer figured out my betting sequence and reprogrammed the numbers  :-\. 

I am trying to use a couple of different ones, but it is harder to keep up with the betting progression and I loose track at times.  Very frustrating.  I would be great to be able to eliminate the worry that the wheel is cheating me! 

If anyone has any others to refer I would be very appreciative! :-*

Most systems I play break down after a time. With RNG it seems to figure out what we are betting, but I have decided that the feeling comes from the amount of spins you can do in the same amount of time, so it just seems that the systems break down faster. When actually it is the same amount of spins played in the 1/3 the time.

I have found that the best way to deal with RNG is to set a 20% of bankroll win a session. Most systems you will find on this board or others will holdup to reach this goal. I never play more than 2 sessions a day. Casinos make their money from people staying at the tables to long.

If you want to play more in a day, I suggest learning Baccarat and playing that at 20% win also.

As far as live wheels in the US, I think we are all just out of luck. The last live wheel I had access to was Riverbelle. When some court case in Kentucky was decided Micro. stopped taken US players and my account there was frozen. I do can play at some of the Micro. RNG sites, but I am not adding any funds to the accounts as when Netteller cut the US players off, it took me a year to get my money out.

Sorry about ranting, but I have been looking at land in Belize, ever since the law was past in a middle of the night congressional session.

Please ramble on and on- I have learned so much in the short amount of time from this forum by posting just like yours.  I still have lots and lots to learn.  It is so comforting to know it was not just my own paranoia. 

But 20% of my bankroll?  I am limiting myself to a $200 bankroll so that would only be $20 a session?  I make that profit in less than 15 minutes using some of the systems posted here.  My goal was to make $100 per session and stop.  This is happening on two sites in practice mode (with a couple of the simple systems played when different triggers appear).   Will my results differ when I switch to playing with real money?  I am practicing on English Harbour and Rushmore casinos. 

Oh, by the way I am playing in practice mode because I lost $700 when I was sucked into one of those affiliate sites and scammed.  I am bound and determined to find a way of recouping those losses and finding a way to continue winning smart profits.  I am not a gambler but I do love puzzles. This has been an awesome journey learning all of the ins and out to this fun little roulette puzzle.  I now have a hobby!!!!

Thank you for posting and sharing with me!  I look forward to future correspondences.

Have a Happy Winning Day [smiley=cool.gif] 
   

FunnyFace,

If you want my advice, by all means avoid online RNG's and stick to live wheels! (although they're slower)

I would never trust those things. Never heard of anyone winning consistently from them, in fact I know a few people who can win somewhat consistently on live wheels and land-based casinos, but lose a lot whenever they tried online RNG's. Not instantly as it tends to let you win for a while before it takes everything back.

Some people advocate RNG's saying that they are no different than a genuine wheel, only faster in a way that lets us experience the dispersion of hits faster, and I agree. RNG's are fine. Online casino RNG's are not!

I also see you are playing systems from these forum. Keep learning, you'll do well. ;)
Here is something I have come across lately in an article about forex trading which also applies well on Roulette, that I think you might benefit from:

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Losing streaks:

Sometimes "bad luck" strikes. Even the best systems in forex will face some losing streaks. What to do? Stop trading the system? Continue? If you stop you will never know if the next trade is going to recover all the losses, and you could lose the opportunity to overcome the losses. And if you continue, you would face pleading your equity!

So what to do? The best thing to overcome such danger is to trade multiple systems at one time. Different systems won't face the streaks at the same time. One losing system would be overcome by another winning one. The result is good.

As someone once said, "Take care of the losses and the winnings will take care of themselves" (or something like that).

All the best,
Marven

People

I made the mistake of taking my computer to Best Buy to have them remove viruses.  What they called viruses were my casinos!!  They removed them!!

Here's the deal:

I was able to download and install these casinos:  Bella Vegas, River Belle, Wild Jack and All Jackpots.  As far as I can tell, none of these casinos are off limits to U.S. players. 

Today I applied for a $500.00 payout from Bella Vegas.  If you ask for that amount or over, the check is free.  Under that it's $20.

While CasinoMeister may say bad things about Bella Vegas, they also said bad things about Golden Casino for having a bad name?  What is that?  Bad name?

If I am paid by check, I will scan the check and put it up for viewing.  If I am not paid, I will report that also.

Sam

I have also found that playing on-line RNG have a tends of winning at the start then start losing. English Harbor is one of the better site that I have played at.

Yes with a 200 BR you will be done with your sessions very quickly.
This is the concept:

Day            Morning Session             Night Session

1               BR 200  win 40                BR 240  Win 48
2               BR 288  Win 58               BR  346  Win 69
3               BR 415  Win 83               BR 498   Win 100
4               BR 598  Win 120              BR 718  Win 143
5               BR 861  Win 172              BR 1033 Win 206

Also as your BR increases, you will need to increase your base bet IE; Day one the Base is $1, Day 2 is $3, Day 3 is $4, Day 4 is $6 and Day 5 is $8.

Hope this helps

     

Marven and TwoCatSam- wow I have been reading and learning from your posts and you guys are a bit like celebrities to me-and to think you found time to respond to me - how cool is that! Great advise too.

Marven you wrote:
"Some people advocate RNG's saying that they are no different than a genuine wheel, only faster in a way that lets us experience the dispersion of hits faster, and I agree. RNG's are fine. Online casino RNG's are not!"  Where would I find RNG's that are not online?  I am inhibited because I live in the US and our local casino does not have roulette.  They just added Black Jack - would it be worth looking into winning strategies?  Although I have found I do not enjoy it like I do Roulette. 

Marven do you know of any online Live wheel casino that allow US players?

TCS:  River Belle must allow you to continue to play because you already have an account setup because when I tried I could not.  I chose a live chat option to ask about it   Here is a copy of my online chat:

Nooruddin: How may I assist you today?

you: Can you confirm whether or not you are accepting US players at River Belle Online Casino?

Nooruddin: Hello Kim

Nooruddin: the casino has taken the decision that it will no longer accept registrations, downloads or host players from the USA, we regret that you will no longer able to play on the download version of the casino or play on the Flash version of the casino. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience that this may cause you.

I called Bella Vegas, and they said that they do accept US players but when registering you have to choose America Samolia because US is not an option.  Unfortunately, they do not have a live wheel.  I called Wild Jacks All Jackpots and they have RNG roulette only, but they have live card games.  Unfortunately, I have not graduated to card games.    One good thing about Wild Jacks- they have the French Roulette Wheel, which I have been wanting to try. 

So the search for a live wheel for US players is still on. 

Phishalot-
I am so glad to have received your reply with the betting session advice.  You are so right about building up my br in this manner.  It is safe and doable based on my test runs and I can get it to my $100 a day quickly.  This has provided me with even more confidence to go back in and win my money back.  Thank You!

I too like English Harbor.  I have also been thinking about playing at two-three different casinos once I can disperse my winnings into new br's.  have you tried this or do you advise against it? 

uh oh now I am rambling on  :-[- I will try to shorten 'em up in the future.

Happy winnings to All!





   

   

I have had accounts on three different internet casinos, all using differant software. You should check the local casino for a Bally roulette machine, Usually if they have the Blackjack machines they will have one of these also.

Remember that you need to watch out for losing streaks. I will call it a day after losing 40% of the bankroll.

Once you get it all started at the end of the month cash out half your bankroll and play the next month with the other half. This will keep your BR growing and give you some walking around money.

Melvin is correct if you can play off the internet, live is better and you can raise the win % up, suggest you do not go above 50%.

But I know that making a trip to somewhere for live wheels can be a event. I have to drive 2 Hours to get to them. And winning in the first half hour. Then what do you do?

Good Luck
Good Spinning

Funny

Thanks for the compliment.   I simply don't know what to think. 

"I called Wild Jacks All Jackpots and they have RNG roulette only"

Here is a screen shot I just took of Wild Jack.  Notice in the upper left-hand corner you can see the WJ logo.

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Sam

I don't know what I would do if I had to move out of Las Vegas. The first 20 years I lived here I was always out on the edge of town or in the rural areas.  I now live walking distance to 3 casinos and a 5 minute drive to mid strip.  I don't think I could ever get comfortable playing online even if it were my only option.

Whomever........

After reading that Bella Vegas is no longer taking Americans, I have decided to suspend real-money play until I am either paid my $500 I withdrew or they tell me I can't play or they won't pay or something.

Playing the G.U.T. is too mentally taxing just to be doing it for fun.  I need to make enough to take the wife out to dinner now and then.  Right Victor?  I should know something by the end of February I should think.

Meanwhile I will try to finish the house.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 27, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
I need to make enough to take the wife out to dinner now and then.  Right Victor?

Samster, when I was doing this full time, the hardest part was to come home and face the question: "Did you win?". I now keep the day job (as per wifey request) and I'm gambling mostly on weekends -Hey can't complain, gambled at Margarita Hilton last weekend! One of the sweetest casinos around this part of the country.

Point being when I made profit division for the month, be it large or not so large: there was always a reward for the wife, for taking the psychological aspect with me. It is quite a thing to handle to be the wife of a gambler, be it a semi or a full-time pro, as we take gambling at our heart and at times do lose focus on what really counts.

Take pride on informing your lady you are inviting on casino's money, spoil her.

I remember wifey was very happy once when she truly wanted a certain set of pillows; we have pillows but she felt in love with some at the store (so soft, so confy... y'know, women love them). I took some extra risks with excedents and got rewarded (win goal was already locked), then invited her to the store and gave her to bought them, explicitly telling her it was won money. She actually wanted me to go to the casino again asap! as there was also a set of soft and cozy sheets...

Be sharing to your lady and she will be gentle with you and your gambling.
Victor

That's an inspiring post Victor.

The great thing about being a junior 20 years old grinder though is the freedom of action and the way you can allow yourself to play less cautiously once in a while.

At any time I could take 30% of my BR and take all the risks in the world, using it to try new things etc. For example I was once tracking a wheel and I was supposed to have at least 1000 spins tracked and do the calculations before I do anything, but I reached 500 (which is not enough of course) and noticed 4 consistently hot numbers on the wheel. So I took 1/3 of my BR and said what the heck and kept flat betting on them for the rest of the day just to see what happens, and ended up tripling that 1/3 in no time.

Well, not to say that I'd do this often, but of course I would never take such a chance if I was married and had such responsibilities.

Oh well, I guess this won't last forever though. ;D

Cheers,
Marven

Hi FunnyFace.

Quote from: FunnyFace on January 26, 2009, 11:36:21 PM
Marven and TwoCatSam- wow I have been reading and learning from your posts and you guys are a bit like celebrities to me-and to think you found time to respond to me - how cool is that! Great advise too.

Thanks, you're very kind.
We're all learning from each other really. :)

Quote from: FunnyFace on January 26, 2009, 11:36:21 PM
Marven you wrote:
"Some people advocate RNG's saying that they are no different than a genuine wheel, only faster in a way that lets us experience the dispersion of hits faster, and I agree. RNG's are fine. Online casino RNG's are not!"  Where would I find RNG's that are not online?  I am inhibited because I live in the US and our local casino does not have roulette.  They just added Black Jack - would it be worth looking into winning strategies?  Although I have found I do not enjoy it like I do Roulette. 

Marven do you know of any online Live wheel casino that allow US players?

Regarding RNG's in the US and live casino wheels that allow US players, I'm afraid I'm not of much help since I am not American.
The only ones I know of are the ones Sam mentioned.

As for Black Jack, I've never been into that. I tried many games, but my heart is 100% into Roulette. :)

All the best,
Marven

Today on the way to the movie I got a call on my cell phone from Bella Vegas to tell me my $500 check was cut and mailed today.

So far so good.......

Sam

Good news Sam.

What kind of table limits do they offer? I might consider playing there sometime.

Regards,
Marven

Have they still not replied to the email you sent in regards if they take U.S players or not? And if we are allowed to play on the live wheel?

Marven and Hayaatt

Their limits are .50 to $10.00 per number.  EC's are 2.50.

I did not get an answer as to whether or not they allowed U.S. players.  This is only my opinion, but I feel they are just not advertising the fact.  Why not download the software and see if you can log on?  I'll tell you right now, you cannot see the live wheel on any of these casinos unless you have real money deposited.  Toss in a twenty and see what happens.

I'll keep you posted on the check.

Sam

I am eagerly awaiting to see if anyone can find a reputable casino with live wheels that still accept USians ;).  I'll let you know if I find any.  I'm starting my hunts tomarrow and am very disapointed to hear that I may not get to try one. :'(  I do not trust RNG, but then, I don't trust computers.

Truly, the best of luck

Although I don't endorse RNG's (yet) I have had good success on multiplayer RNG tables.  Just a thought...

MM

All..........

Today I received my $500 check from Bella Vegas.  A copy is below.  I blanked out my full name and address.

I am ready to report on Bella Vegas.  They have treated me like gold!  They have not jacked me around in any way, shape or form.  Their software works perfectly.  They pay!

Comments?

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Samster

P.S.   Yes, I will return to the G.U.T.

Of course, being Canadian [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Ah, good!

I shall put them on my 'legitimate casinos' list.

Thank you Sam.

All the best,
Marven

Sam that's good news.  However I recieved an email back from them about a week back when I asked about if they accepted U.S players and this is the email I got back.


Dear Jae

Thank you for your e-mail.

Please be advised that the casino does not have the Live Roulette Wheel.
Feel free to check the games that are available at nolinks.grandprive.com (nolinks://nolinks.grandprive.com)

Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards,


   



________________________________

From: jB kim [mailto:jbforeva@hotmail.com]
Sent: 01 February 2009 10:26 PM
To: GP Support
Subject: Question regarding U.S players


Hi,

I have been told my a fellow U.S member that you allow U.S players to play on your live roulette wheel and when I initially made a deposit onto my account some time ago I was not allowed to play on the live wheel.  I then called support to ask and they told me that they no longer allow U.S players to play on the live wheel.  However my friend has informed me that he still plays on your live wheel and resides in the U.S.  So can someone please tell me if U.S players are allowed to play on your Live Roulette wheel?  Thank you.


Jae



This is the email off their website I emailed.  I'm lost???

Jae

I suppose I must be "grandfathered" in or something.  They obviously know I'm from the USA.  I do know this: Of all the Grand Prive casinos, only Bella Vegas has a live wheel.

Sam

any one tried this casino

nolinks. bogartcasino. com ? got live dealer and accept US players.

I've played (actually tested only as I'm primarily a bac player) the live wheel roulette at Bet Phoenix and it worked just fine for me as a US player.

Payouts show up on time and other than the occasional network slowdowns at night, it's been pretty decent to me.

AD

I only know of three that offer live roulette in the US.
sportsbook.com, bogarts casino, betphoenix.
I can not recommend them sue to the fact that I know nothing about them. Any one have experience with them?