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Title: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
Hi All

i think you all should read this review before you spend your money on the Roulette Bot Pro Software

after you read the review , you decide if you still want to spend money on it.....


here is a statement why he did this review


         First of all I will answer to the question why I do this.     
          I never like to pay any attention to all these roulette systems sallers except the case when somebody use our name    
          to promote his own software and the worst is that he post wrong info about us.    
          Matt or Tiago2 or how he call himself on its site did this so I will post my review related to his site.

          nolinks://nolinks.money-maker-machine.com/tg.htm (nolinks://nolinks.money-maker-machine.com/tg.htm)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Lulloz on February 08, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
I do not know Matt but Tiago is, it's a nice guy and very honest.

The competition serves to increase the commercial products and to set quality standards.

Unfair competition only serves to create chaos and instability.

You have often presented in the forum for your products and they have never done this already suggests ...

The competition is offering something better, a better price and not discredit the work of others.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
HI All

@ lulloz all you mentioned is correct infact concurency is very good and we like this.  as long as it is in a professional manner
   but if someone is trying to bash our software or name .. wich cannot  be tolerated , then he has to deal with the consequences
  wich in this case was a review of his software from our point of view.......


but as you mentioned concurrency is good

This is why we modified RBS and DCS prices.

RBS will be 67$
DCS will be 97$

So now we have better price for better software.

Finally all is ok for us because under the way to be released are another new software so we can get them for free or part of them to all VIP members who bought RBS or DCS.


cheerz





Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
That is an interesting review of MY bot.  He has NO facts straight.  Here are some counter responses to his non facts.

- I am selling it to make extra money.  So if MMM is selling his bot does that mean it doesn't work because he is selling it?
- The reviews are real people, beta testers.  How does he know if they are fake or not, he can not prove it.
- True I do not have a forum because they take allot of time to run properly and I simply do not have the time.  There may be a forum in the future.
- I am NOT Tiago we are 2 different people, this makes me laugh.  He is my programmer!
- As for Tiago's other projects like never winter roulette, so what if it was never finished, it was given away for FREE as a fun project.
- You can use ALL features of my bot during the trial period, and you can use it in real money mode.  I only suggest using it in play mode to get use to it so you do not lose all your money while you are fine tuning your settings.
- The screen shot of the GUI he has there is only one of the four I show on my site, that is just part of the configuration screen.
- In my Terms Of Service I never say you can not get your money back, it says your refund is limited to you purchase price only.
- Yes I do have recommended casinos on my site with affiliate links, so what if you don't like that don't use the link.

The admin of MMM is totally paranoid.  Within 30 minutes of my site going live he was emailing me and trying to threaten me and bully me etc.   All I ask people is to do your own due diligence when looking at reviews as MMM posted about Roulette Bot Pro.  Also do your own diligence on anything I post, I have nothing to hide.  I am not paranoid and I sleep well at night to :)

I will answer all questions, if you want you can PM me

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 03:57:55 PM
HI


the review was only posted because you posted  wrong info about MMM.

We thought that Tiago2 is the owner of this.
Finally I received info about someone about this.
Tiago2 did some bad things and this is why this happen.
Matt i feel very sorry for you because you deal/work with Tiago2

Finally this is only game called virtual concurency.

and the review about Roulette Bot Pro has been Updatet by the way


cheerz



Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 08:36:05 PM
Quote from: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 03:57:55 PM
We thought that Tiago2 is the owner of this.
Matt i feel very sorry for you because you deal/work with Tiago2
and the review about Roulette Bot Pro has been Updatet by the way

- If he thought Tiago2 was the owner why did he not just ask me instead of asuming and telling people we were the same person?  ???

- I am sorry you feel that way about Tiago2, he is a great guy and a great programmer, I am sure most people would agree with that statement.  :thumbsup:

- Breeze88 says he changed the review, well not really....the top part has not been changed at all, he just an added a bit on to the bottom that still contains wrong info, I will clairify.

His Site: "Looks like Matt started to do what I told to him so this is good.  In this way you can see how I can controll this also another are agree with me.  Ok after this Matt at list will remove or already removed his affiliate links so this is a step forward.    But I think this will not cost him a lot."
- I have not changed anything on my site, I still have a recommended casino page with affiliate links on it.  So I do not know what Breeze88 told me to do and I changed it.  ???

His Site: "I also did a big step and put my RBS software for 67$ and DCS software for 97$  and even with this exist special price for both.  In some of previous emails he told me that he want a turnament.  Then OK. We can do this."
- Ok great he lowered his price, competition causes people to do that.  If I caused him to lower his price then I will gladly take credit for that, it seems that way to me.  ;D I do not know what he is talking about that I want a tunrament.  Only thing I can think of that comes even close to what he is talking about is he did try and bully me in an email and telling "The war is on!" because I would not do what he wanted.  :o

His Site: "Ok so looks he invested some money. But I am sure Tiago2 is good student so he gave to Matt the software for free"
- This is 100% false.  Tiago worked MANY MANY hours on this bot and I paid him well for it.  :thumbsup:  Even if he did give me the software for free, who cares and why does it matter?

His Site:  "My suggestion to another roulette sallers is to don't post wrong info about my network because it consist from people who work with me and invested in this a lot of money and time.  Till now nobody except Matt and Tiago2 did bad things against our community. Hope this will be a lesson and for the others."
- See more bullying tactics......witch by the way do not work. 

I ask people to check my compairison chart on my site, If I misrepresented MMM or ANY other software tell me about it with proof and I will admit I made an error and gladly change it.

In my opinion Breeze88 is really paranoid. >:D 
Is it just me that thinks this?  Please let me know, I may be way off base here but it is just my opinion.

Matt


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Lulloz on February 08, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
I do not know Matt but Tiago is, it's a nice guy and very honest.
The competition serves to increase the commercial products and to set quality standards.
Unfair competition only serves to create chaos and instability.
You have often presented in the forum for your products and they have never done this already suggests ...
The competition is offering something better, a better price and not discredit the work of others.

You got it!  Competition for me or anyone else increases quality and ussually a lower price for similiar products.

I try not to bad mouth other products, I only try and present the facts, some people may take that as bad mouthing but there is a difference.

Matt


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2009, 08:45:09 PM
You got it!  Competition for me or anyone else increases quality and ussually a lower price for similiar products.

I try not to bad mouth other products, I only try and present the facts, some people may take that as bad mouthing but there is a difference.

Matt



Ok Matt if you try to present the facts then first study the software you try to compare with your product
beacuse MMM doesent stand for a software but for a community  ::)

the software you should have taken care of should be RSS and RSS Pro , but if you would have compared them with yours you would have a different outcome then it is shown on your site write know... so please do your home work before comparing things you dont
even have a clue of...

and for declaring me paranoid shows me with what sort of people i have to deal with......'sad'


cheerz
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 08:55:10 PM

Ok Matt if you try to present the facts then first study the software you try to compare with your product
beacuse MMM doesent stand for a software but for a community  ::)

and for declaring me paranoid shows me with what sort of people i have to deal with......'sad'
cheerz

I know MMM is a community but all the software MMM has still applies to my chart. As for studying software are you telling me you actually studied my software?  you can get a 100% free trial just like everyone else.  I dont think you did because you have so many wrong fact in your review.

If you are paranoid or not I will let the readers of this forum decide :)

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 09:19:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2009, 09:06:10 PM
I know MMM is a community but all the software MMM has still applies to my chart.

Matt


No it doesent fit the chart , because your software is a Rip-Off from RSS - Pro... so infact all points you compare match exactly
what RSS - Pro can do and manny more things..

by the way i didnt wrote the review iam a part from the MMM community and for this ... i have a distaste about Scammers and your site screams Fraud and Scam all over the place... and you sell a product that is a complete rip-off from a product we developed ...and i really cant ignore this....



cheerz





Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 09:19:54 PM
No it doesent fit the chart , because your software is a Rip-Off from RSS - Pro... so infact all points you compare match exactly
what RSS - Pro can do and manny more things..

by the way i didnt wrote the review iam a part from the MMM community and for this ... i have a distaste about Scammers and your site screams Fraud and Scam all over the place... and you sell a product that is a complete rip-off from a product we developed ...and i really cant ignore this....

How is my software a rip off of your product that is a scripting program?  My software is a roulette betting software and RSS is a scripting program aka a roulette software designing program to make roulette betting software. They are totally diferent.  And if RSS can do more then than my program good for it.  If people want to try my software for free then they can and they will make up their own mind.

Please please please point out how my site is a scam, give me quotes. 


Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 10:08:43 PM
Ok here are some typical quotes and phrases every scammer has on its site and hey .. they even show on your site

things like ...

start making online casinos to your personal ATM , today!

make 100$ in 5 min

and of course the well known scammer trick.. Testimonials from friends or Fake testimonials....


now i cam across alot of scammer sites  in the past and your site fits into this.. sorry...


but anyway i wish you good luck in selling your bot.. as the saying goes , every day one  idiot wakes up

cheerz
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
Quote from: Breeze88 on February 08, 2009, 10:08:43 PM
Ok here are some typical quotes and phrases every scammer has on its site and hey .. they even show on your site
things like ...
start making online casinos to your personal ATM , today!
make 100$ in 5 min
and of course the well known scammer trick.. Testimonials from friends or Fake testimonials....

now i cam across alot of scammer sites  in the past and your site fits into this.. sorry...
but anyway i wish you good luck in selling your bot.. as the saying goes , every day one  idiot wakes up
cheerz

If you are going to quote my site at least get it right:

"Get your No Limitations FREE TRIAL now and start using online casino's as your personal ATM today!"   That is what is on my site, that is marketing not a scam.
"Actual game play in a real account, not play money like the competitors show. $100 profit in 5 minutes!" This is a caption below a video on my site, the title to that video is
"Roulette Bot Wins $100 In 5 Mins - Amazing!" (Just stating a FACT) That video show me using a REAL account in REAL money mode making $100 in 5 minutes.
There is NOWHERE on my site I say "make $100 in 5 minutes" 
As for my testimonials these are real people that beta tested my program, you have no proof they are fake.

So now all of a sudden you wish me luck in my selling, ok thanks.

Matt

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Alfolof on February 08, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
If you are going to quote my site at least get it right:

"Get your No Limitations FREE TRIAL now and start using online casino's as your personal ATM today!"   That is what is on my site, that is marketing not a scam.
"Actual game play in a real account, not play money like the competitors show. $100 profit in 5 minutes!" This is a caption below a video on my site, the title to that video is
"Roulette Bot Wins $100 In 5 Mins - Amazing!" (Just stating a FACT) That video show me using a REAL account in REAL money mode making $100 in 5 minutes.
There is NOWHERE on my site I say "make $100 in 5 minutes" 
As for my testimonials these are real people that beta tested my program, you have no proof they are fake.

So now all of a sudden you wish me luck in my selling, ok thanks.

Matt



As a productuser of RBS and RSS i´m not get anything out of being partial to anyones product, but in order to give relevant info i would if i was you Matt change some info on the hompage for your product.
At your homepage you compare MMM with a software which is the same as compare the company that makes products with a specified product, and if you actually do this i can assist you by telling you that you actually need to catch up because this would inlude RSS, DCS, RSS and (RSSpro, soon release) and when you do this comparison you put your software on the top (ofcourse because you own and sell it) and this in my point of wiew is some kind of scam because the in the way you do it you compare the limitations and this would put your software below "MMM".

(maybe you already changed this, if so forget about this post)


So in order to compete with MMM:

1. you need a forum
2. you need better support
3. you need better software developteam (or if you got one man that´s better than plenty this would be enough)
4. you need better softwares

If you accomplish all this i might be interested as well.






                                                                                             Alfolof
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: Alfolof on February 08, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
As a productuser of RBS and RSS i´m not get anything out of being partial to anyones product, but in order to give relevant info i would if i was you Matt change some info on the hompage for your product.
At your homepage you compare MMM with a software which is the same as compare the company that makes products with a specified product, and if you actually do this i can assist you by telling you that you actually need to catch up because this would inlude RSS, DCS, RSS and (RSSpro, soon release) and when you do this comparison you put your software on the top (ofcourse because you own and sell it) and this in my point of wiew is some kind of scam because the in the way you do it you compare the limitations and this would put your software below "MMM".

(maybe you already changed this, if so forget about this post)


So in order to compete with MMM:

1. you need a forum
2. you need better support
3. you need better software developteam (or if you got one man that´s better than plenty this would be enough)
4. you need better softwares

If you accomplish all this i might be interested as well.

                                                                                             Alfolof

Tell me what is wrong on my compairison chart please. What features do ANY of the MMM products have that I have wrong on my chart.  People need to get specific and not make general claims without anything to back it up.

I never said I NEED to compete with MMM or anyone!  Geesh :o

As far as the support, how do you know what support I have?  95% of my emails I personally answer within 10 minutes, the rest within 8 hours.

You do not know what I have as far as a development team so how can you say it needs to be better?

If you think I need better software then dont buy it.

Thanks for your comments Alfolof,  Your writing style and English sure looks familiar.  ;D 
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: TwoCatSam on February 08, 2009, 11:05:39 PM
All........

I have e-mailed Matt and I will gladly buy his software when it is configured to use with Microgaming casinos.  I will try it at Bella Vegas using the parameters he suggests.  If anyone cares, I will make a screen capture movie of the whole test and post it for all to see.  Either it will work or it won't.

I will risk $500 of my own money and not gripe if I loose it.

Sometime on or before April 15th, Matt says.  Someone poke him and Tiago if you want to speed up the test!   :)

TwoCat
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2009, 11:09:22 PM
Hey TwoCat

Tiago is on vacation until March 16th so that gives me 1 month when he gets back for him to program before my projected release date of April 15th.

Cheers
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Lulloz on February 08, 2009, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Alfolof on February 08, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
So in order to compete with MMM:

1. you need a forum
2. you need better support
3. you need better software developteam (or if you got one man that´s better than plenty this would be enough)
4. you need better softwares

If you accomplish all this i might be interested as well.
                                                                                           Alfolof

Absolutely false, i think Matt don't need you set the rules for sales in the world :)

Take it easy and first to call a person "scammer", try to have a 360° clear vision.

The comparative approching is most usend on the marketing, and you can only say something on competitors sites, only if they write something that discredit other sellers work.

I'm on error or at the page on the mmm site something can be called "discredit" where they talk about Matt bot ?







Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Alfolof on February 08, 2009, 11:51:35 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2009, 11:00:22 PM
Tell me what is wrong on my compairison chart please. What features do ANY of the MMM products have that I have wrong on my chart.  People need to get specific and not make general claims without anything to back it up.

I never said I NEED to compete with MMM or anyone!  Geesh :o

As far as the support, how do you know what support I have.  95% of my emails I personally answer within 10 minutes, the rest within 8 hours.

You do not know what I have as far as a development team so how can you say it needs to be better?

If you think I need better software then dont buy it.

Thanks for your comments Alfolof,  Your writing style and English sure looks familiar.  ;D 

*Well, sorry for my english it´s not my native language
*Well, if you not want compete with "MMM", the class of your devolopmentteam will become not relevant.
* Same as above, if you not want compete with "MMM" your software don´t need to be better, to this i also want to notify that i have not said your software is bad, only that it look like you claim that your software have less limitations and this is simply wrong.

1. You refer to MMM and this would include all their products, you have put ok on your software when it comes to "All types of bets" and a "no" to "MMM" this is simply wrong because inside MMM there is software that allow all types of bets. related to your software i can not answer because i have not tested it.

2. Bankrollgraph is good, but very soon within "MMM" the user will be able to make any type of graph.

3. 200 spins per min, something like that is possible within "MMM" as well.

4. Computerized progressions, to this i would say it´s possible to do any kind of progression with "MMM"

5. Professional GUI, well i would say that it look quite userfriendly but it is for sure more limitations in it than in "MMM"

6. When it comes to support it sounds good from my point of view, if you can keep that standard for several years you will have a good class on your support

Finaly i will say: actually i don´t care what you claim on your website but i do think that it looks kind of silly to compare a software with "MMM"

                                                                                                       Alfolof
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 12:10:26 AM
Quote from: Lulloz on February 08, 2009, 11:11:19 PM
Absolutely false, i think Matt don't need you set the rules for sales in the world :)

Take it easy and first to call a person "scammer", try to have a 360° clear vision.

The comparative approching is most usend on the marketing, and you can only say something on competitors sites, only if they write something that discredit other sellers work.

I'm on error or at the page on the mmm site something can be called "discredit" where they talk about Matt bot ?



No i´m not trying to set the rule for any type of sale, also my intention was not to give the name scammer to Matt.

In my perspective only the comparation between "MMM" and his software is a scam

                                                                                                      Alfolof
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 09, 2009, 12:23:45 AM
Quote from: Alfolof on February 08, 2009, 11:51:35 PM
*Well, sorry for my english it´s not my native language
*Well, if you not want compete with "MMM", the class of your devolopmentteam will become not relevant.
* Same as above, if you not want compete with "MMM" your software don´t need to be better, to this i also want to notify that i have not said your software is bad, only that it look like you claim that your software have less limitations and this is simply wrong.

1. You refer to MMM and this would include all their products, you have put ok on your software when it comes to "All types of bets" and a "no" to "MMM" this is simply wrong because inside MMM there is software that allow all types of bets. related to your software i can not answer because i have not tested it.

2. Bankrollgraph is good, but very soon within "MMM" the user will be able to make any type of graph.

3. 200 spins per min, something like that is possible within "MMM" as well.

4. Computerized progressions, to this i would say it´s possible to do any kind of progression with "MMM"

5. Professional GUI, well i would say that it look quite userfriendly but it is for sure more limitations in it than in "MMM"

6. When it comes to support it sounds good from my point of view, if you can keep that standard for several years you will have a good class on your support

Finaly i will say: actually i don´t care what you claim on your website but i do think that it looks kind of silly to compare a software with "MMM"

                                                                                                       Alfolof

I was not making fun of your language, just pointing out it looks like the same writing as someone else that posts here.

I never said I do not want to compete with MMM or anyone else, I said I do not need to compete with MMM, there is a difference.

I only see RBS (red/black bets) and DCS (dozens and colum bets) on MMM.  RSS and RSS Pro are not roulette betting software, the are scripts to make roulette betting software, that is 2 different things!

You talk about a future bankroll graph, sorry I can only compair with what is right now not what is in the future.

200 spins, something like that is possible,  I want to know is it or is it not.  "Something like that" is not the same as "Yes it can do it"

Computerized progressions.  This comes defualt with my software, with MMM you must put it in manually and therefore it is not automatically confugured by the computer and software.

GUI, yes it is user friendly and easy on the eyes to look at.

Before someone told me there was a free trial at MMM, so I took them at their word.  I can not find it now on the site anywhere.  Can you please show me on the site where I can get a free trial, otherwise I will have to change my chart again.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
Reply to Matt´s post



"I never said I do not want to compete with MMM or anyone else, I said I do not need to compete with MMM, there is a difference."
Ok, compare maybe is the word

"I only see RBS (red/black bets) and DCS (dozens and colum bets) on MMM.  RSS and RSS Pro are not roulette betting software, the are scripts to make roulette betting software, that is 2 different things!"

I will not go into detail in how RSS work but it is for sure roulette betting software especially if you include the support and forum that is included, it´s not a script either, it´s a scriptmaking tool and yes to make scripts demand some of the user but also this is the price for less limitations.

"You talk about a future bankroll graph, sorry I can only compair with what is right now not what is in the future."

No, i talk about the possiblillity to make any kind of graph very soon, right now it is possible to get visual info related to any kind of data but yes your software do have a bankrollgraph that´s not bad either.

"200 spins, something like that is possible,  I want to know is it or is it not.  "Something like that" is not the same as "Yes it can do it" "

Well sorry but right now i´m to lazy to clock the speed of it, maybe it´s 250 i think this is finally related to your computer, internetconnection and software

"Computerized progressions.  This comes defualt with my software, with MMM you must put it in manually and therefore it is not automatically confugured by the computer and software."

Well, this is up to the user and what kind of person he or she is, if the user want to leave this responsibility to predefined settings i guess this is ok, btw. this is actually the charm with the software at "MMM", you can decide how you want to bet.

"GUI, yes it is user friendly and easy on the eyes to look at."
And here you compare whole "MMM", i think this is a strange comparision   ;D

"Before someone told me there was a free trial at MMM, so I took them at their word.  I can not find it now on the site anywhere.  Can you please show me on the site where I can get a free trial, otherwise I will have to change my chart again."

I think you should sent a message to Admin and declare your intention, you might get a possitive response.

finally i will not continue argue in this debate, since i´m not selling any of the products all efford i put to this is only nonsense, i only wanted to share my own perspective on this comparision between softwares and "MMM"

                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                              Alfolof






Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 09, 2009, 01:51:19 AM
My reply is the green part.

Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
Reply to Matt´s post
"I only see RBS (red/black bets) and DCS (dozens and colum bets) on MMM.  RSS and RSS Pro are not roulette betting software, the are scripts to make roulette betting software, that is 2 different things!"
I will not go into detail in how RSS work but it is for sure roulette betting software especially if you include the support and forum that is included, it´s not a script either, it´s a scriptmaking tool and yes to make scripts demand some of the user but also this is the price for less limitations.

So is RSS is a script making tool or a ready to go out of the box roulette betting software? That is 2 different things so it can only be one or the other!  Support and forums have nothing to do with if it is roulette betting software or not, either it is or it is not!



Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AMYou talk about a future bankroll graph, sorry I can only compair with what is right now not what is in the future."
No, i talk about the possiblillity to make any kind of graph very soon, right now it is possible to get visual info related to any kind of data but yes your software do have a bankrollgraph that´s not bad either.


Once again, I only can compair with what is has right now not in the future.



Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AM"200 spins, something like that is possible,  I want to know is it or is it not.  "Something like that" is not the same as "Yes it can do it" "Well sorry but right now i´m to lazy to clock the speed of it, maybe it´s 250 i think this is finally related to your computer, internetconnection and software


So still not a definate answer.


Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
"Computerized progressions.  This comes defualt with my software, with MMM you must put it in manually and therefore it is not automatically confugured by the computer and software."
Well, this is up to the user and what kind of person he or she is, if the user want to leave this responsibility to predefined settings i guess this is ok, btw. this is actually the charm with the software at "MMM", you can decide how you want to bet.



So then my chart is not wrong about computerized progressions.



Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AM"GUI, yes it is user friendly and easy on the eyes to look at."
And here you compare whole "MMM", i think this is a strange comparision   ;D
"Before someone told me there was a free trial at MMM, so I took them at their word.  I can not find it now on the site anywhere.  Can you please show me on the site where I can get a free trial, otherwise I will have to change my chart again."
I think you should sent a message to Admin and declare your intention, you might get a possitive response.


I should not have to email the admin to get a free trial, I just was wondering if I could find a way to get it from the website, apparantley you can not.


Quote from: Alfolof on February 09, 2009, 01:27:19 AMfinally i will not continue argue in this debate, since i´m not selling any of the products all efford i put to this is only nonsense, i only wanted to share my own perspective on this comparision between softwares and "MMM"

                                                                                                                     
I understand, I also just want the facts out.  Matt                                                                                                               Alfolof









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Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: TwoCatSam on February 09, 2009, 02:43:24 AM
....coming to a theater near you....

BATTLE OF THE ROULETTE ROBOTS
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on February 09, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on February 09, 2009, 02:43:24 AM
....coming to a theater near you....

BATTLE OF THE ROULETTE ROBOTS

;D lol

I'll just add my two cents too :

I'm a NWRS user ( the famous RSS clone, that's not totally right but let's say it is ), I have also tried RouletteBot Pro trial.

As matt says before, this is totally differents softwares :

=> you must code RSS or NWRS bots by yourself ( I'm not very good at that... ) with any system you want.

=> RouletteBot Pro doesn't need to be coded, you can't change it, you can just do some settings, that's all.

And my last words : RouletteBot Pro is not a scam, some guys could says " RouletteBot Pro only play Martingale after a certain amount of spins wait and that doesn't work ".

The martingale part is true, but with correct settings, you will win big, trust me, use RouletteXtreme to see the max intervals on 10 millions spins on even, numbers, lines, etc....

Use this max interval to set your wait spins in RouletteBot Pro, depending of your start bankroll, after a couple of hours, you'll be impressed by the winnings, slow but sure.

Last night, I set RouletteBot Pro this way, 100 € start bankroll, 10 cents betting unit, 8 hours later at wake-up my bankroll was 456 €... Playing on all the odds together ( numbers, even, streets, line... ).
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on February 10, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
Quote from: thomasgrant on February 10, 2009, 12:58:38 AM
What settings did you use?
I am using RSS,  to write a script to get maximum misses.
And then putting them into Roulette Bot Pro.
Something like what Roulette Extreme can do.

Hi Thomas, nice to meet you here, you're a really active guy in the roulette world, that's very impressive.

So I play this way with RBpro :

I've a 10 millions spins stats ( done with RX ), that give me the max intervals for all the odds, even, numbers, etc...

So depending of your start bankroll ( personnaly I play with 10 cents bet ), roulettebot pro calculate progressions by itself.

Example : my bankroll is 1500 ( or I want to play with 1500 only ) :

I play with all the odds in RBpro ( doz, even, numbers, all ) but just one bet at a time.

RBpro will set a 10 steps progression on even with that bankroll, my RX stats give a max interval of 29 on even, so I set the wait on 29-10= 19 for the even ( or 1 or 2 more for maximum security ).

RBpro will set a 16 steps progression on doz/cols with that bankroll, my RX stats give a max interval of 42 on doz/col, so I set the wait on 42-16= 26 for the doz/col ( or 1 or 2 more for maximum security ).

Same things for lines, street, all the others... And you're on.

The wins are quick and sure because RBpro monitor all the odds at the same time, only a bot can do that, very interesting.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on February 10, 2009, 10:02:14 PM
Quote from: thomasgrant on February 10, 2009, 02:36:49 PM
Ok, I have attached another pic.
Here you can see that the settings won $100
I set a profit target of $100 in the settings window.
There is also a graph that I put up.
The $100 was made playing in FUN mode.
It was made in 1hour and 11 minutes.
Playing with $0.10c chip units.
Playing all the board.

Sounds good, I use the random function too, but just with 2 steps more for the extra security I have talk before.

I agree with you the the trailing stop loss is simply wonderful.

One thing missing I would like to have, a total game history ( spins and bet and why not stats on the odds ).
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on February 10, 2009, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: thomasgrant on February 10, 2009, 10:09:59 PM


Sure hope I can be involved in testing the next version.

I hope too lol, give them 2 words about me  ;)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on February 11, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
Quote from: KevinNash on February 09, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
;D lol

I'll just add my two cents too :

I'm a NWRS user ( the famous RSS clone, that's not totally right but let's say it is ), I have also tried RouletteBot Pro trial.

As matt says before, this is totally differents softwares :

=> you must code RSS or NWRS bots by yourself ( I'm not very good at that... ) with any system you want.

=> RouletteBot Pro doesn't need to be coded, you can't change it, you can just do some settings, that's all.

And my last words : RouletteBot Pro is not a scam, some guys could says " RouletteBot Pro only play Martingale after a certain amount of spins wait and that doesn't work ".

The martingale part is true, but with correct settings, you will win big, trust me, use RouletteXtreme to see the max intervals on 10 millions spins on even, numbers, lines, etc....

Use this max interval to set your wait spins in RouletteBot Pro, depending of your start bankroll, after a couple of hours, you'll be impressed by the winnings, slow but sure.

Last night, I set RouletteBot Pro this way, 100 € start bankroll, 10 cents betting unit, 8 hours later at wake-up my bankroll was 456 €... Playing on all the odds together ( numbers, even, streets, line... ).

You have an excellent idea of how to use Roulette Bot Pro, well done and great thinking!

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on February 11, 2009, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 11, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
You have an excellent idea of how to use Roulette Bot Pro, well done and great thinking!

Matt

;) Hi Matt !

Honestly, a software who monitor all the odds automatically all the odds at the same time was my dream, you and Tiago2 have just do it !

And with the Trailing Stop option, that's simple, you win money more than you loose, can take some time ( some hours in fact ) but if you win at the ends, who cares about the time ? That's the Bot job not our !

More you win more steps you can add to the progressions and less wait steps, so with goods settings and safety settings it could be exponential winnings.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: FakeNick on February 13, 2009, 02:50:42 PM
I saw that if I lock my windows account ( to avoid people clicking somewhere ) the software stop itself.
This is bad :|

It's also strange, but everytime I win, it stops to update the balance, and it takes a lot of time ( even if the software is faster than others )

I'm using the trial version ( v1.0 ), is it the latest?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: FakeNick on February 13, 2009, 03:56:42 PM
I confirm this :D
It works better with camtasia running, the delay is really lower now :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: esoito on February 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
I must confess when I first read about this program my immediate reaction was:  how can it work profitably on an RNG site? 

After all, it's well known and documented elsewhere that  RNG software deliberately works against you making a profit overall.

And yet here we have folk using it and making a profit  on RNG sites ;)  Well done!  (I'm assuming it was RNG and not online-live casino. Correct me if I'm wrong about that, please)

So what is emasculating the RNG so you can actually make a profit with RouletteBotPro, despite the RNG's best efforts to stop you from doing so?

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 22, 2009, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: KevinNash on February 10, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
Hi Thomas, nice to meet you here, you're a really active guy in the roulette world, that's very impressive.

So I play this way with RBpro :

I've a 10 millions spins stats ( done with RX ), that give me the max intervals for all the odds, even, numbers, etc...

So depending of your start bankroll ( personnaly I play with 10 cents bet ), roulettebot pro calculate progressions by itself.

Example : my bankroll is 1500 ( or I want to play with 1500 only ) :

I play with all the odds in RBpro ( doz, even, numbers, all ) but just one bet at a time.

RBpro will set a 10 steps progression on even with that bankroll, my RX stats give a max interval of 29 on even, so I set the wait on 29-10= 19 for the even ( or 1 or 2 more for maximum security ).

RBpro will set a 16 steps progression on doz/cols with that bankroll, my RX stats give a max interval of 42 on doz/col, so I set the wait on 42-16= 26 for the doz/col ( or 1 or 2 more for maximum security ).

Same things for lines, street, all the others... And you're on.

The wins are quick and sure because RBpro monitor all the odds at the same time, only a bot can do that, very interesting.


Hi, i am using roulette bot pro trial version, but i have only been betting on columns and dozens, your settings for columns seem very high, i think that if i would use these i would never get any bets, but at the same time using my setting which is waiting for 18 with another 18 progressions can i easily go bust? any advice on this would be greatly asppreciated, and also if someone could help me with setting for lines, i would appreciate some really safe settings for lines if any one could help

thanks

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 22, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Cheers for getting back to me, ill run some tests and see what i come up with, im gonna buy the full version pretty soon so finding the optimum settings for me is a must.  also do u think this is a long term solution, obviously there are gonna be times where we incur losses but do u think overall we can profit in a meaningful way? iv heard so many people saying progressions are stupid and you will always lose in the long run, but then again no one has a flat betting system that i have seen that is as effective so the debate rages on.

thanks again

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 22, 2009, 03:36:16 PM
Thanks number6 , i was thinking i would eventually get caught out with the progressions but it seems ok just now and iv made quite a bit, but i suppose i know i will eventually lose out.  do you have any advice as to which system to use, i have read about quite a few but havent managed to put my faith into any yet?  are there any that u have had good success with ?

cheers

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: See_Jerek on February 22, 2009, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: idiamin1 on February 22, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Cheers for getting back to me, ill run some tests and see what I come up with, im gonna buy the full version pretty soon so finding the optimum settings for me is a must.  also do u think this is a long term solution, obviously there are gonna be times where we incur losses but do u think overall we can profit in a meaningful way? iv heard so many people saying progressions are stupid and you will always lose in the long run, but then again no one has a flat betting system that I have seen that is as effective so the debate rages on.

thanks again

Iaino

Who ever says that progression doesnt work?
Ask that person to show you a flat bet system that works in the long run.
The truth is nothing works in a negative expectation game.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 22, 2009, 07:19:29 PM
Thanks for the link number6, just finished tweaking the settings, it will be slow at 1st but maybe ill get a bit braver when i have made some and had a withdrawal.  as for the gut stuff ill look into it, looks complicated your right but ill give it a go and see if i cant fathom it out.

Does anyone know what the 12 million spins were done on? was it an actual rng or something similar

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 23, 2009, 01:17:06 PM
Today i have been using the settings based on the stats provided by poit, using all the betting features.  although betting oppertunities are not coming about that often i am getting some good results from all the features, havent had any bets on single numbers yet but i have it set to wait for 400 spins 1st, had a couple of slpits and street though.  looking good so far last day of trial though, so gonna have to buy the bot. 

I wanted to ask has anybody had any experience of the casinos detecting the bot or banning thier account?  and has anyone been banned for being a constant winner?

cheers

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: bali96 on February 23, 2009, 01:47:10 PM
Hi

Save your money, I bought this and to start with it made a few quid...however it doesn't take too long before the RNG starts to take it all back and more so be warned! I tried various settings for several days, play safe and you will make a couple of quid after several hours, reduce the setting for less misses walk away and come back to find that it has hit your stop loss. In defence of the seller however he was very obliging and returned my money in full.

In my opinion it is a nicely designed piece of software and user friendly but in it's present form is far too restrictive with regards to only betting on so many misses and the predefined progressions that can not be altered. Having said that apparently there is a new version being launched in April that may address these issues. In the long run though is there any real chance of beating the RNG's, I for one do not think so...

Regards
Bali
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on February 23, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
Hey folks sorry more help needed here!! i was running the bot this afternoon and it started betting on a "four bet" there is no setting on the bot for this so how did it know to bet on this?? also i have the 1st bet set to 10p but when the four bet won my profit went up by over £10!!! a four bet is about 8/1 right? so if the progressions were correct for this i should have had profit of somewhere between 10p and 80p but it wasnt, and by the time the bet won it had wagered over £20, now im not sure how many times it bet as i wasnt counting but surely this is quite steep, and the profit was way to much for the progressions to be correct, can someone shed some light on this for me

Cheers

Iaino
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Tiago2 on March 01, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
Haha yeh.. 888.com is a real pain to get a bot working on it. I've got a private demo I coded to test out automated bettings on it. Runs quite well, not tested enough thou. I haven't got a requests yet for a bot to be coded for 888.com yet, I gues since they stopped allowing free spins, but not anymore I guess. But its very posible. Matt is the one who will decide what features will be coded into RBP v2. Im just coder
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: idiamin1 on March 01, 2009, 04:36:30 PM
Hi thiago2,

i was just wondering if you knew when the new version of roulette bot pro would be ready, i know matt said i would be on or before april 15th, but just wondering if you had any clear idea, the 1st version was awesome.  also will it work with cryptologic software as well as microgaming? and will it also still support playtech casinos?

thanks


Iaino

Quote from: Tiago2 on March 01, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
Haha yeh.. 888.com is a real pain to get a bot working on it. I've got a private demo I coded to test out automated bettings on it. Runs quite well, not tested enough thou. I haven't got a requests yet for a bot to be coded for 888.com yet, I gues since they stopped allowing free spins, but not anymore I guess. But its very posible. Matt is the one who will decide what features will be coded into RBP v2. Im just coder
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2009, 04:43:55 PM
Hi Everyone

Just to let you know Tiago2 is on holidays.  Also I can not stop you from asking him questions about Version 2 but I am sure he will not answer as I am the Owner of the program and as he stated he is the coder.  The next version will have more features but the main feature will be to make it work at a casino for US players.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Tiago2 on March 04, 2009, 07:58:01 AM
Quote from: idiamin1 on February 23, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
Hey folks sorry more help needed here!! I was running the bot this afternoon and it started betting on a "four bet" there is no setting on the bot for this so how did it know to bet on this?? also I have the 1st bet set to 10p but when the four bet won my profit went up by over £10!!! a four bet is about 8/1 right? so if the progressions were correct for this I should have had profit of somewhere between 10p and 80p but it wasnt, and by the time the bet won it had wagered over £20, now im not sure how many times it bet as I wasnt counting but surely this is quite steep, and the profit was way to much for the progressions to be correct, can someone shed some light on this for me

Cheers

Iaino

There is only one Four Bet category in a European roulette board. RBP plays the whole roulette board. There is currently no options to enable or disable just the four-bet category. From the top of my head I can't remember which category Four-Bet falls into with RBP, but Its either Corners or Lines. It should follow the same progressions as Corners since the odds for both Four-Bet and Corners are the same.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on March 04, 2009, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Tiago2 on March 04, 2009, 07:58:01 AM
There is only one Four Bet category in a European roulette board. RBP plays the whole roulette board. There is currently no options to enable or disable just the four-bet category. From the top of my head I can't remember which category Four-Bet falls into with RBP, but Its either Corners or Lines. It should follow the same progressions as Corners since the odds for both Four-Bet and Corners are the same.

Correct, it should follow Corners monitor and progression BUT in RBpro, the 4 bet 0,1,2,3 follow lines ! That's a very bad thing and bug, I lose several times because of this during my tests and now I don't bet lines anymore.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 04, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
I mention this in the new readme file.  I hope to get this issue fixed with the next release.

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Mave on March 06, 2009, 10:55:08 AM
Hi everyone,

I want to use the Roulette Bot Pro with those settings what the "10 million spins test" gave us. Which way is better if I have got 200$.
1. I see how many spins can I make with 200$ and use those numbers or
2. Use I the settings for 100$ but make double bet?

Could somebody test this? Which settings make more money?  ::)

Thank you
Mave
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 06, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
Hi Matt,

I noticed on your website, you claim the following:

"The Worlds Best Roulette System is an outright SCAM! The website and demo version of  software are very  convincing. The demo version works 100% in play money mode because the software manipulates the casino's  play mode. If you try the system in real money mode it doesn't work."

I am wondering what roulette system you are referring to, and what evidence you have to substantiate this claim?

Thanks
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Lulloz on March 06, 2009, 09:49:50 PM
I have tryed myself, try the the demo and you can see a system that work perfectly, too much perfectly...

After this try to play in real money mode and you can see how many fast is possible to lost money :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 06, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
Thank you. When you say 99% of all winning systems are scams, which side does Roulette Bot Pro fall into and why?

Quote from: Number Six on March 06, 2009, 09:58:45 PM
"World Best Roulette System", is it?
Youtube it, you will see evidence of it failing first hand.
He is right, it is a scam....like 99% of all "winning" systems being sold online.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 06, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: Lulloz on March 06, 2009, 09:49:50 PM
After this try to play in real money mode and you can see how many fast is possible to lost money :)

I am not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that you used RBP in real money mode and it lost you money?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2009, 10:56:49 PM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 06, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
Thank you. When you say 99% of all winning systems are scams, which side does Roulette Bot Pro fall into and why?


How can Roulette Bot Pro be a scam?  It is a tool.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You get a 3 day free trial and a 60 day money back guarantee, what more do you want?  Do you think that when you play for real money the program starts losing on purpose?  If that was the case do you think that would be good for business.  Think things out.
Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 06, 2009, 10:56:49 PM
How can Roulette Bot Pro be a scam?  It is a tool.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You get a 3 day free trial and a 60 day money back guarantee, what more do you want?  Do you think that when you play for real money the program starts losing on purpose?  If that was the case do you think that would be good for business.  Think things out.
Matt

Thanks for your reply, Matt. Ok, so you have affiliate links on your casino page. You are an affiliate of Euro Partners. Would you be willing to show a daily screen capture of your Euro Partners account? Whether it goes negative or positive, you can display a daily report. That would benefit all potential RBP customers.  For example, when a player wins, you, as a casino affiliate, lose, so your account would be in a negative position. Please update us with your Euro Partner's account data to prove that your software works when your player sign up through your affiliate ID.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 07, 2009, 12:52:16 AM
Gentlemen.....

This fellow is offering a three day trial and a 60 day money back guarantee.  If'n I could get on a playtech wheel, I'd take him up on it just for fun.

Sam
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 12:56:00 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 06, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
Has anyone said your bot is a scam? No, I don't think they did so what are you getting worked up for? Personally I wouldn't touch it with a fricking barge pole but that is just my opinion. When you understand the game of roulette you will see why you don't need to wait x misses then begin betting some idiotic progression to make a profit. It's truly laughable. And the fact that it's automated makes it worse. You should rename your bot "Fallacy Pro". But don't worry about my negativity, people will still buy your program because they think it's easy money. They will learn the hard way.

Cue your affiliates................

Nobody said it was a scam but johndoe78  was asking if it was.  I will rename my bot just for you, any other advise you want to give me ....please.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 12:59:19 AM
Wow this threads getting hot ;)

@ #6

I know. I've seen the Thomas Grant guy, but he isn't smart enough to make casino commissions off the sale. Nor is anyone else who sells Matt's software.  Obviously, really, the affiliates lose when the refund comes around.

@ 2CatsSam

I think he is giving this "grace" period so suckers can test the software as play money players, especially with the 9 various settings you get in the free trial. Once the player starts to win in play mode on one of these trials, they sign up as real money players.  Then they trust the bot to win over night and wake up to find that they lost their bank!  He positioning himself as a saint, but really isn't nothing more than a scammer.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:01:25 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 12:56:00 AM
Nobody said it was a scam but johndoe78  was asking if it was.  I will rename my bot just for you, any other advise you want to give me ....please.

Matt, care to respond to my request to provide Euro Partners daily stats?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:04:10 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 12:58:58 AM
code a good system

I'll get right on that just for you   ;D
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 01:02:18 AM
John,
I don't think he's a scammer.
He just doesn't understand maths.


Forgive my ignorance #6, but do you have a winning roulette system? (mods, pardon the obvious thread hijack)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
--- duh quoted myself
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:07:04 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:04:10 AM
I'll get right on that just for you   ;D

Matt, are you deliberately ignoring my request?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 01:02:18 AM
John,
I don't think he's a scammer.
He just doesn't understand maths.


I understand "maths" 

I am just a guy that made a program and am selling it with a trial period and money back guarantee, so shoot me.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:13:08 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 12:59:19 AM
Wow this threads getting hot ;)

@ #6

I know. I've seen the Thomas Grant guy, but he isn't smart enough to make casino commissions off the sale. Nor is anyone else who sells Matt's software.  Obviously, really, the affiliates lose when the refund comes around.

@ 2CatsSam

I think he is giving this "grace" period so suckers can test the software as play money players, especially with the 9 various settings you get in the free trial. Once the player starts to win in play mode on one of these trials, they sign up as real money players.  Then they trust the bot to win over night and wake up to find that they lost their bank!  He positioning himself as a saint, but really isn't nothing more than a scammer.

Once again, what is the scam? There is nowhere on my site I guarantee ANYTHING, I actually tell you I do not guarantee you will make money.  So if you are telling me you will win in trial mode it wont win in real mode?  You propably are one of these guys that wants to buy something for $50 and make $1000 overnight.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:18:41 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:13:08 AM
Once again, what is the scam? There is nowhere on my site I guarantee ANYTHING, I actually tell you I do not guarantee you will make money.  So if you are telling me you will win in trial mode it wont win in real mode?  You propably are one of these guys that wants to buy something for $50 and make $1000 overnight.

Matt, first, your product sells for $97, not $50. A minor detail. Second, you still haven't provided any screenshots of your Euro Partners account. If your account is in negative, and most likely, severe negative, then your software works. If not, then it doesn't. Simple as that.  Not all your customers or trial users are going to sign up under your casino affiliate ID, but some will. Those that do, should put your account into a negative balance. Please show me evidence that your software works.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:21:37 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 01:19:00 AM
Matt,
You just told the programmer what system to code.

Anyway, I'm off this thread now and I'm sure you'll be glad to see the back of me.

Sorry if I dented your sales.

;D

John,
This forum is a wealth of information. There are great systems everywhere.


#6, you never explained your winning roulette system.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 12:23:15 AM
Thanks for your reply, Matt. Ok, so you have affiliate links on your casino page. You are an affiliate of Euro Partners. Would you be willing to show a daily screen capture of your Euro Partners account? Whether it goes negative or positive, you can display a daily report. That would benefit all potential RBP customers.  For example, when a player wins, you, as a casino affiliate, lose, so your account would be in a negative position. Please update us with your Euro Partner's account data to prove that your software works when your player sign up through your affiliate ID.

I will not show anyone my casino affiliate account, that is private business.  Also I have promoted those casinos for years in many different ways and still do.  So first off I have no way of knowing who is a Roulette Bot Pro customer or not.  Also even if all my casino customers were from Roulette Bot Pro and I did have a positve balance that doesn't mean they lose from my program.  What if they win with my program then lose it all playing the slots or blackjack or something else?  People are greedy to, if they win MOST people will piss it all away somehow.  Did you think of that?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:27:17 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 01:19:00 AM
Matt,
You just told the programmer what system to code.

Anyway, I'm off this thread now and I'm sure you'll be glad to see the back of me.

Sorry if I dented your sales.

;D

John,
This forum is a wealth of information. There are great systems everywhere.


You are right I was not the coder.  I just designed it and PAID someone to code, then I made the website and was the one who actucally got off my ass and did something like try to sell a product.  I am sure if were up to you I would have zero sales.  I can understand if people do not like my program that is fine with me.  But why do people hate on others that try to get ahead by doing something legitimit is beyond me.  Mabey they have to look at themself to see what the real problem is.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:42:12 AM
Quote from: Number Six on March 07, 2009, 01:37:21 AM
Sorry for being provocative.
I love Roulette Bot Pro and I love all casino affiliates.
Goodbye

I knew you would come around..... ;D
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:44:51 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
I will not show anyone my casino affiliate account, that is private business.  Also I have promoted those casinos for years in many different ways and still do.  So first off I have no way of knowing who is a Roulette Bot Pro customer or not.  Also even if all my casino customers were from Roulette Bot Pro and I did have a positve balance that doesn't mean they lose from my program.  What if they win with my program then lose it all playing the slots or blackjack or something else?  People are greedy to, if they win MOST people will piss it all away somehow.  Did you think of that?

Matt, stop talking like you know the casino business inside and out. Obviously, you are here to make money from your customers.

Matt, you can actually add a tracking code to your affiliate ID. Here is an example:

hxxp://banner.casinotropez.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=mreams&profile=rt

Notice in the profile=rt. That means you can send people to roulette landing pages.. Then in the Euro Partners reporting pages, in the "Profile" textbox, you can enter "rt" (no quotes) to get accurate tracking for your roulette customers.

Please adjust your casino page to direct customers to seperate tracking codes so that you can prove to RBP customers that your software works.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:49:45 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 01:44:51 AM
Matt, stop talking like you know the casino business inside and out. Obviously, you are here to make money from your customers.

Matt, you can actually add a tracking code to your affiliate ID. Here is an example:

hxxp://banner.casinotropez.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=mreams&profile=rt

Notice in the profile=rt. That means you can send people to roulette landing pages.. Then in the Euro Partners reporting pages, in the "Profile" textbox, you can enter "rt" (no quotes) to get accurate tracking for your roulette customers.

Please adjust your casino page to direct customers to seperate tracking codes so that you can prove to RBP customers that your software works.


I never said I know the casino business inside and out.  I didnt even know about the extra tracking code because I never had a need for it before. 
So now you are telling me what to do and how to run my business, give me a break.  Even if I did start tracking Roulette Bot Pro players do you actually think I would show you or ANYONE else private information reguarding anything to do with how much money I make in ANY busines I do.  Get real.  I know you are going to say something like I am avoiding proving something.  Well guess what, I have nothing to prove.  People try the program for free for 3 days and if they like it they buy it if they don't like it guess what.....they don't buy it.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 02:39:38 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 01:49:45 AM

I never said I know the casino business inside and out.  I didnt even know about the extra tracking code because I never had a need for it before. 
So now you are telling me what to do and how to run my business, give me a break.  Even if I did start tracking Roulette Bot Pro players do you actually think I would show you or ANYONE else private information reguarding anything to do with how much money I make in ANY busines I do.  Get real.  I know you are going to say something like I am avoiding proving something.  Well guess what, I have nothing to prove.  People try the program for free for 3 days and if they like it they buy it if they don't like it guess what.....they don't buy it.



Matt, I gave you this information ie: tracking codes, so that you could demonstrate that you have a winning formula. Obviously you deny us proof to your system. Furthermore, you ignore the fact that your 3 day trial is just a means to get players to convert from free play mode to real play mode. I'm sure you've experimented with the fact that maybe it takes a certain amount of time for a player to convert, and then lose.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 02:50:20 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 02:39:38 AM
Matt, I gave you this information ie: tracking codes, so that you could demonstrate that you have a winning formula. Obviously you deny us proof to your system. Furthermore, you ignore the fact that your 3 day trial is just a means to get players to convert from free play mode to real play mode. I'm sure you've experimented with the fact that maybe it takes a certain amount of time for a player to convert, and then lose.

I understand the idea about tracking codes to prove that my program works.  But as I said before just because they win or lose with my program doesnt mean they won't win or lose playing the slots or blackjack or something else so it is impossible to impliment your idea.  In the 3 day free trial I also urge people to use a real money account in TEST MODE.  This will use a real account and keep track of bets it would have placed without placing bets.  Also I can not control if people win with play money and lose with real money or even the other way around. I am not ignoring anything.  People have to due there own due diligence.  Besides showing my affiliate acount (witch I will never do, plus as I stated that still proves nothing) what else do you want me to do.  Give it away for free?  If I did that people would still find something to complain about. Obvouisly you will not be buying it and that is fine with me.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:18:30 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 02:50:20 AM
I understand the idea about tracking codes to prove that my program works.  But as I said before just because they win or lose with my program doesn't mean they won't win or lose playing the slots or blackjack or something else so it is impossible to impliment your idea.  In the 3 day free trial I also urge people to use a real money account in TEST MODE.  This will use a real account and keep track of bets it would have placed without placing bets.  Also I can not control if people win with play money and lose with real money or even the other way around. I am not ignoring anything.  People have to due there own due diligence.  Besides showing my affiliate acount (witch I will never do, plus as I stated that still proves nothing) what else do you want me to do.  Give it away for free?  If I did that people would still find something to complain about. Obvouisly you will not be buying it and that is fine with me.

Well, why not give it away for free? If it works so well, then you must use it for yourself? I'm sure by now you are a millionaire from all you winnings that you have made. This is evident from your youtube video.  $97 is a drop in the buck compared to the hundreds or thousands you are making from using this system yourself, isn't it?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:20:44 AM
Quote from: thomasgrant on March 07, 2009, 03:16:14 AM
But this is standard procedure for most software out there these days.
They have a free trial, or give a free demo. Or have a free video or free ebook.
Do people convert? Sure some do. But not all.
Will people that use the software lose money?
Some will. Just depends on the settings.
Will people be able to win money?
Again, some will. All depends on the settings.
You can be lucky at times.
And other times, you can lose it all.

It is very easy to use.
Simple to set up.
And it works.

What more do you want?


Thomas, I am sorry, but you are an affiliate of the RBP software. I can't help but disregard anything you say about this software.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 03:33:10 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:18:30 AM
Well, why not give it away for free? If it works so well, then you must use it for yourself? I'm sure by now you are a millionaire from all you winnings that you have made. This is evident from your youtube video.  $97 is a drop in the buck compared to the hundreds or thousands you are making from using this system yourself, isn't it?

Yes I have made money using it, I have also lost money using it.  Who said I was making thousands?  If I can make money using it as well as selling it why not?   Some people are never satisfied no matter what your answer to any question is. 
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 03:35:08 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:20:44 AM
Thomas, I am sorry, but you are an affiliate of the RBP software. I can't help but disregard anything you say about this software.

Yes he is an affiliate, but do you see him promoting his affiliate link anywhere here?  So are you telling me anyone that is an affilaite and says good things about something you must disreguard it?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:47:17 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 03:35:08 AM
Yes he is an affiliate, but do you see him promoting his affiliate link anywhere here?  So are you telling me anyone that is an affilaite and says good things about something you must disreguard it?

Essentially, yes, because no affiliate will say blatantly bad things about a product if they are trying to promote it, either through their signature or other forum threads that they did or did not create.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:56:29 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 03:33:10 AM
Yes I have made money using it, I have also lost money using it.  Who said I was making thousands?  If I can make money using it as well as selling it why not?   Some people are never satisfied no matter what your answer to any question is. 

It is easy for anyone to say that they have made money from any gambling system. The question is when does the player withdraw that money.  Now in your youtube videos you make $100.  Are there more videos to come? or is this your SOLID proof? One video, plus two more from obvious affiliates. The Thomas Grant youtube video is a total discount since he is an affiliate, and even admits that most roulette systems can work to some degree. I have read most of his posts. The other youtube video is from the same town you are living in, Langley, British Columbia, so he must be a friend or family member. I highly doubt he even used your software, especially by the fact the he seems so scripted in his presentation.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 04:02:46 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 03:56:29 AM
It is easy for anyone to say that they have made money from any gambling system. The question is when does the player withdraw that money.  Now in your youtube videos you make $100.  Are there more videos to come? or is this your SOLID proof? One video, plus two more from obvious affiliates. The Thomas Grant youtube video is a total discount since he is an affiliate, and even admits that most roulette systems can work to some degree. I have read most of his posts. The other youtube video is from the same town you are living in, Langley, British Columbia, so he must be a friend or family member. I highly doubt he even used your video, especially by the fact the he seems so scripted in his presentation.

The video show how the bot works.  Thats it nothing more nothing less.  Sure it is used for marketing, is that a crime?  I do not have to answer to you or anyone else.  I have supplied facts and a lot more.  Comment all you want, it makes no difference to me.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: See_Jerek on March 07, 2009, 04:03:03 AM
Guys what is the problem?If you guys wanna trash it out go to the pit.
You are flooding the forum with your postings!

John if you don't like the product then don't buy it.At the end of the day,its to each his own,willing buyer willing seller
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 04:05:56 AM
Quote from: See_Jerek on March 07, 2009, 04:03:03 AM
Guys what is the problem?If you guys wanna trash it out go to the pit.
You are flooding the forum with your postings!

John if you don't like the product then don't buy it.At the end of the day,its to each his own,willing buyer willing seller

Last I checked, this is the "Roulette Bot Pro Review" thread. Since I don't want to blow my $97 on a product where the author can only show promotional material on his website, I think I am inclined to ask all the questions I want.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 04:09:53 AM
Forgive me. Does it really sound like I am trashing the product or just asking questions? I am looking for validation a proof.  The author of Roulette Bot Pro said to do your own due diligence. I am doing just that. Now I feel like that I can't ask for long term proof of winnings and that the author of the software doesn't want disclose information. How can I do my due diligence when they are unwilling to disclose? I smell scam.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 04:21:07 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 04:02:46 AM
The video show how the bot works.  Thats it nothing more nothing less.  Sure it is used for marketing, is that a crime?  I do not have to answer to you or anyone else.  I have supplied facts and a lot more.  Comment all you want, it makes no difference to me.

Matt, comments make a huge difference, because your software is for sale in a roulette forum, and you should thank the mods for keeping all RBP threads alive.  There is no crime to youtube marketing. There really is no crime to what you are doing, as far as I am aware of. Can I ask this though. When you decided to post your comparison chart, did you ask the webmasters/authors of 1. Money Maker Machine, 2. Roulette Sniper, 3. Roulette Raper, 4. Roulette Killer, 5. R-Bet.. if it was ok to use their trademark / software names as a motive to 1. slander them and 2. boost your own software name? 
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MXkid77 on March 07, 2009, 05:02:34 AM
Am i affiliated to RBP.... Definately not

Will i provide you with my honest opionion.... Why not

These are 2 Screenshots from February 13 2009. Spins 16208. Time run 7 hrs 08 mins & 59 seconds. 8 wins + R2.60 Live Real Money

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi515.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft359%2Fmxkid77%2FIndioDay213Feb200916208spins.jpg&hash=a6e5b98a4be3cca21b1f375d26b8ba18a0f9c80f)

February 13 2009. Spins 56001. Time run 24 hrs 33 mins & 13 seconds. 43 wins + R21.20 Live Real Money

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi515.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft359%2Fmxkid77%2FIndioEndDay213Feb200956001spins.jpg&hash=bda0fc297569770b8c1cdaf4825ba9308f32964b)


Settings Test, Live RNG TEST MODE.

February 14 2009. Spins 12438. Time run 6 hrs 58 mins & 08 seconds. 37 wins + R17.40 Live Real Money (TEST MODE)

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi515.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft359%2Fmxkid77%2FIndio2100settings14Feb12438spins.jpg&hash=70bd4fe1bb0fc467267dcd7c63f45c8dae36168a)

February 14 2009. Spins 28701. Time run 18 hrs 50 mins & 52 seconds. 74 wins + R62.10 Live Real Money (TEST MODE)

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi515.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft359%2Fmxkid77%2FIndio2100settings14Feb28701spins.jpg&hash=b569f0c451e60971c4cbeb0a59c2faf667ac3ded)

Then my 2 days were up.

So what can i say, does it win, apparently so.
Does it loose, for me in 2 days, no.
Will it loose, i am sure it will, that's why it has a stoploss & trailing stoploss.
Will i buy it, If i had the Spare +- 970.00ZAR, yes i would.

johndoe78, i understand your concerns, but honestly mate. Do the tests for yourself. If you like it, buy it.... if you don't don't.

If you don't like the fact that Matt is affiliated to a casino. Use another one, the choice is yours.










Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 05:24:05 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 04:09:53 AM
Forgive me. Does it really sound like I am trashing the product or just asking questions? I am looking for validation a proof.  The author of Roulette Bot Pro said to do your own due diligence. I am doing just that. Now I feel like that I can't ask for long term proof of winnings and that the author of the software doesn't want disclose information. How can I do my due diligence when they are unwilling to disclose? I smell scam.

I always thought a scam was when you promise one thing and do not deliver it, or just take peoples money and do not give them anything.  I do neither of those things. So get your terminology right.  You want proof that you will always win in the long run?  I can not do that and nobody can for any roulette product.  I show you the bot in a video winning.  If that is not good enough for you then don't buy it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 05:27:20 AM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 07, 2009, 04:21:07 AM
Matt, comments make a huge difference, because your software is for sale in a roulette forum, and you should thank the mods for keeping all RBP threads alive.  There is no crime to youtube marketing. There really is no crime to what you are doing, as far as I am aware of. Can I ask this though. When you decided to post your comparison chart, did you ask the webmasters/authors of 1. Money Maker Machine, 2. Roulette Sniper, 3. Roulette Raper, 4. Roulette Killer, 5. R-Bet.. if it was ok to use their trademark / software names as a motive to 1. slander them and 2. boost your own software name? 

First off I NEVER started any thread or "promoted" my program in any forum.  And it is not for sale in this forum, it is a toipic started by people to discuss.  If I started it to "sell" my product I'm sure it would have been deleted within 5 minutes. so get the facts straight.  The compairsion charts state facts so it is not slander.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 05:33:13 AM
Quote from: MXkid77 on March 07, 2009, 05:02:34 AM
Am I affiliated to RBP.... Definately not

Will I provide you with my honest opionion.... Why not

These are 2 Screenshots from February 13 2009. Spins 16208. Time run 7 hrs 08 mins & 59 seconds. 8 wins + R2.60 Live Real Money


February 13 2009. Spins 56001. Time run 24 hrs 33 mins & 13 seconds. 43 wins + R21.20 Live Real Money


Settings Test, Live RNG TEST MODE.

February 14 2009. Spins 12438. Time run 6 hrs 58 mins & 08 seconds. 37 wins + R17.40 Live Real Money (TEST MODE)


February 14 2009. Spins 28701. Time run 18 hrs 50 mins & 52 seconds. 74 wins + R62.10 Live Real Money (TEST MODE)

Then my 2 days were up.

So what can I say, does it win, apparently so.
Does it lose, for me in 2 days, no.
Will it lose, I am sure it will, that's why it has a stoploss & trailing stoploss.
Will I buy it, If I had the Spare +- 970.00ZAR, yes I would.

johndoe78, I understand your concerns, but honestly mate. Do the tests for yourself. If you like it, buy it.... if you don't don't.

If you don't like the fact that Matt is affiliated to a casino. Use another one, the choice is yours.


Looks like the program worked for you.  But I am sure you will agree it all depends on teh settings you use.  Good for you.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 07, 2009, 11:52:56 AM
Johndoe/etall....


I think your missing the BIG picture here.  Matt isn't selling a "system".  He's selling a programmable bot that can use different systems as YOU set them up. 

I don't see Matt as a scammer at all.  He's built a very useful bot that can work as he says it does.  It's up to the system YOU chose to make it win. 

What's your big deal with this anyways??

Mattymattz
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: MattyMattz on March 07, 2009, 11:52:56 AM
Johndoe/etall....


I think your missing the BIG picture here.  Matt isn't selling a "system".  He's selling a programmable bot that can use different systems as YOU set them up. 

I don't see Matt as a scammer at all.  He's built a very useful bot that can work as he says it does.  It's up to the system YOU chose to make it win. 

What's your big deal with this anyways??

Mattymattz


I couldn't have said it better myself.  Nice name  :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: thomasgrant on March 07, 2009, 05:32:52 PM
What a lark...
Yeah I am his brother... ROFL...
Are you serious?
I am about as far away from British Columbia as any one person can get.

Was that a flag of British Columbia in the youtube video that I made?
Hmm, I will have to take a look again.

I think he was talking about the other video testimonial.  Yes I know that guy and he is in my hometown.  He was a beta tester.  Someone I could talk to and he gave me feedback as I was developing it.  I have nothing to hide, thats why I put his hometown there even though it is the same as mine.  Think about it,  I could have easily put any city I wanted.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Lulloz on March 07, 2009, 07:10:58 PM
Quote from: johndoe78 on March 06, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
I am not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that you used RBP in real money mode and it lost you money?

Sorry for delay, i'm referring to World best roulette system also know as world best roulette scam :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 07:12:31 PM
Quote from: Lulloz on March 07, 2009, 07:10:58 PM
Sorry for delay, I'm referring to World best roulette system also know as world best roulette scam :)

That one is deffinatley a scam.  Works in play mode because it manipulates the program but in real mose it doesnt work.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on March 07, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
Is that the one where you cover all but 2 numbers?
TSK
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 07:25:55 PM
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on March 07, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
Is that the one where you cover all but 2 numbers?
The Spiders Kiss
Yes
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 07, 2009, 07:55:08 PM
Matt - Does RBP work on live wheels (like DublinBet or WilliamHill)?  I believe WilliamHill is Playtech.  What about Joyland?

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
Quote from: MattyMattz on March 07, 2009, 07:55:08 PM
Matt - Does RBP work on live wheels (like DublinBet or WilliamHill)?  I believe WilliamHill is Playtech.  What about Joyland?

Thanks,
Matt


Will work in manual mode at all casinos live or not.  Automatic will not work for live wheels, only Playtec non live
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on March 07, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Matt
Thanks for your reply.
I was amazed by the fact that I never lost but was too amazed to buy it (thank goodness)  :)
I  downloaded your bot some weeks ago and Id like to put on record that I too won a little with it playing the RNG at joyland.
However,I have decided that these things are not for me.......but to all you callers out there THIS IS NOT A SCAM.
Just be careful of the settings you input
TSK
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 08, 2009, 12:17:15 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
Will work in manual mode at all casinos live or not.  Automatic will not work for live wheels, only Playtec non live

Thanks for the reply.  That's too bad.  Lemme know if you ever build one that works automatically for live wheels.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: FakeNick on March 08, 2009, 12:51:24 AM
It can't work in live, because it uses a rule that has found on playtech casino only.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on March 08, 2009, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: FakeNick on March 08, 2009, 12:51:24 AM
It can't work in live, because it uses a rule that has found on playtech casino only.

Yes but all Playtech have a live wheel, so why not playing on this live wheel too ?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: FakeNick on March 08, 2009, 10:37:14 AM
I think that it wont work, because it's based on the RNG of playtech, that it isn't really random.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 08, 2009, 11:05:59 AM
FakeNick,

it isn't based on anything, it's simply a program that reads what's on the screen and acts accordingly.  I've seen bots that can read numbers from live wheels, just never a bot that can bet for you as well on a live site. 

MM
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: FakeNick on March 08, 2009, 12:01:36 PM
no, it's based on "not-come-out" numbers/colors/... on the playtech casino.

This was discovered on the MMMX forum.
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg88.imageshack.us%2Fimg88%2F7948%2Fpablopal.jpg&hash=8caa0c6a28131eb79d5f1fca720442fe82e71168)

You can sure bet before the 13/14 numbers, but the basic idea is this one.

You can see from the official documentations of Roulette Bot Pro, there are some screenshot/example.
You can see that the secure one wait for 14 different numbers in red/black and the same math in the others :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 08, 2009, 02:10:12 PM
Okay, this is the last post I'll make on the matter. 

Roulette Bot Pro is not a system.  It is a computer programmable bot that tracks online casinos and can bet for you.  Yes it can bet the system your talking about FakeNick (waiting for x amount of no shows, then betting) AND other systems.  But that's up to the user.  The fact that Matt includes some systems is just an added bonus (I wouldn't really call it a bonus, but you know what I mean). 

If I were to ever purchase a bot, it would be for live wheels only (such as DB and joyland), and I would use my OWN system with the bot, as that's the main idea behind a bot. 

Again, I'm not talking about a system, I'm refering to the bot that can be programmed to play many systems.

Hope that clears the air.  If not, tough.

Matt


Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: KevinNash on March 08, 2009, 04:12:07 PM
Hi Guys !

There's one thing in this thread I really don't understand :

A lot of people talk about RBpro ( bad critics or not, that's not the problem ) without try it ! Really incredible.

I'm not an affiliate, I haven't buy the soft but I TRIED IT !

Just for remember, you can test RBpro, 100 % free and 100 % functional, Playtech real and free mode, 3 days trial.

The thread title is : Roulette Bot Pro Review

So please, test it for free before talking about it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: esoito on March 15, 2009, 05:30:07 AM
Tres bien. Completement vrai, monsieur  :)

After all, a three day trial should allow INFORMED comment and a VALID review,  rather than simply spraying a spectacular trifecta of vague suppositions, borderline defamation and libel, coupled with false assumptions.

Looking forward to more reviews based on actual use of the bot which is what the thread is supposed to be about -- otherwise fingers off the keyboard, please!






Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: coetser on March 18, 2009, 05:10:49 PM
hi there
just to say i am using this program and have on and off for a few weeks now and with different success. it has taken a lot of testing in real money but i now only play columns and dozens and make a 1000 units a day so far so good been going at it for a week now non stop and hope it lasts. my settings are at 18 misses on both and it can take up to 8 hours to make my target but as i say so far so good.

the thing i have found is that you must have a big enough bank and do not get impatient.

out of all the software programmes i have used i have found this to be the best.

thanks
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on March 18, 2009, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: coetser on March 18, 2009, 05:10:49 PM
hi there
just to say I am using this program and have on and off for a few weeks now and with different success. it has taken a lot of testing in real money but I now only play columns and dozens and make a 1000 units a day so far so good been going at it for a week now non stop and hope it lasts. my settings are at 18 misses on both and it can take up to 8 hours to make my target but as I say so far so good.

the thing I have found is that you must have a big enough bank and do not get impatient.

out of all the software programmes I have used I have found this to be the best.

thanks


How many progressions do you use for your stop loss?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: coetser on March 19, 2009, 05:39:34 AM
Hi Matt

I have a 5000 bank and set my trailing loss at 3500 and it depends on the units i use most time it is £ 5 units and other times it is £25 units and i have not had it go past 11 progressions on both units.

I am using 2 sites at the moment and one i run in the day and one at night as i make more profit i will use more sites and then alternate between them.

I does does take a long time to get to your target if it is set at 18 but i think it is worth it. you start it and forget about it and when you check again you are in the money.

thanks
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Diarmaid on March 27, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
Am I missing something, but when I increase the base unit value in the program, the progressions are listed shorter, they never go beyond $100???????  very strange, unless its the trial version, but its not supposed to have limitations.

Anyone notice this?

Regards
Diarmaid
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: coetser on March 27, 2009, 11:49:43 AM
hi there

if your bank increases then your progressions should increases aswell and your progressions can also be set according to your trailing stop or stop loss try changing those and see if it helps.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Diarmaid on March 27, 2009, 12:02:14 PM
I deleted the saved settings and set up again and it worked, very strange....?

Thanks
Diarmaid
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Diarmaid on March 27, 2009, 12:29:19 PM
1 ISSUE

One Issue I have with this Bot is that the so called "line with numbers 0,1,2,3" should not be classed as a line as there is only 4 numbers. The odds of hitting it is less than hitting a line (6 numbers). In the program the progression is the same for this bet and it causes larger payouts if hit late in the progression which can be good obviously, but the main problem is that the 0,1,2,3 line sleeps for longer than other lines and can cause big problems.

I have to wait for all lines to sleep for much longer because of this. I think this 0,1,2,3 should be in the "corners" category.

Regards
Diarmaid
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: MattyMattz on March 27, 2009, 12:32:08 PM
Good point D.

MM
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: coetser on March 27, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
hi there

yes i have found the same thing and because of that it has tanked my bank a few times, all i now play is columns and dozens it seems to be the only ones that i have the best results for me.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: NOISIA on March 27, 2009, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: Diarmaid on March 27, 2009, 12:29:19 PM
1 ISSUE

One Issue I have with this Bot is that the so called "line with numbers 0,1,2,3" should not be classed as a line as there is only 4 numbers. The odds of hitting it is less than hitting a line (6 numbers). In the program the progression is the same for this bet and it causes larger payouts if hit late in the progression which can be good obviously, but the main problem is that the 0,1,2,3 line sleeps for longer than other lines and can cause big problems.

I have to wait for all lines to sleep for much longer because of this. I think this 0,1,2,3 should be in the "corners" category.

Regards
Diarmaid

Matt has been notified of this problem in a previous post, and will hopefully get updated in the next version!

I have to agree with Coetser, I'm also having continued success with high settings.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Tiago2 on April 14, 2009, 01:32:41 PM
Quote from: Diarmaid on March 27, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
Am I missing something, but when I increase the base unit value in the program, the progressions are listed shorter, they never go beyond $100???????  very strange, unless its the trial version, but its not supposed to have limitations.

Anyone notice this?

Regards
Diarmaid

Progressions are affected by your bankroll, the table limit you have specified in the bot and the betting unit. If you put the betting unit higher then it will make progressions to suit the bankroll or the table limits for that category, which ever one is lowest.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: bobbi949949 on May 15, 2009, 06:57:57 PM
Does anyone know of if there are any playtech casinos with a low minimum bet of say 1p?  Any 10p playtech casinos apart from  Joyland?  Any information would be much appreciated, thank you.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Just_Gabe on May 24, 2009, 06:59:55 AM
Sorry for my ignorance but I don't know what "10p" stands for...but if you are looking for low minimum bets, I'm using Casino Tropez right now since it has a minimum bet of 10 cents, pretty good to start with some small BR and test the RBP.

Hope it helped...
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: rjeaton1 on May 24, 2009, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: bobbi949949 on May 15, 2009, 06:57:57 PM
Does anyone know of if there are any playtech casinos with a low minimum bet of say 1p?  Any 10p playtech casinos apart from  Joyland?  Any information would be much appreciated, thank you.

Hey there Bobbi, I know BlackPool casino (nolinks. blackpoolclub. co. uk) <--remove spaces, I just didn't want the link to be clickable offers betting amounts from .01 all the way up to 100.00  I hope that helps!
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: bobbi949949 on May 24, 2009, 11:52:02 AM
Cheers guys, the info is much appreciated!  I've found it hard recently to find a good low stakes table.  Given an online casinos lack of overheads compared to a B&M casino i think £1 minimum bets are a bit of a joke.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Just_Gabe on May 24, 2009, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: KevinNash on February 09, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
Last night, I set RouletteBot Pro this way, 100 € start bankroll, 10 cents betting unit, 8 hours later at wake-up my bankroll was 456 €... Playing on all the odds together ( numbers, even, streets, line... ).
Can you share what were the wait parameters you used on all the odds before betting? and I assume that you had a large stop loss and trailing loss limit :o
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: cippe on August 26, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
someone can explain to me the super sleeper settings?
Thanks
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on September 01, 2009, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: cippe on August 26, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
someone can explain to me the super sleeper settings?
Thanks

As explained in the instructional video super sleepers are numbers that have never come up.  Why didn't you email support from the website?

Matt
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on March 09, 2010, 03:40:46 AM
Hi! Are there some who enjoys the version 2. 1? send feedback
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: far2shok on April 07, 2010, 04:12:02 PM
Hi! I use V 2. 1.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on April 12, 2010, 10:28:49 AM
Share your experiences, how this version and what settings you use?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: chovek69 on April 18, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
I just tried this thing with smartlive casino. It simply does not work. The bet limits implemented in the software are outdated and cannot be changed. Sometimes it place the first bet then stops for some reason. I suppose it is intended for working only with the rigged Playtech rng.

Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on April 18, 2010, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: chovek69 on April 18, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
I just tried this thing with smartlive casino. It simply does not work. The bet limits implemented in the software are outdated and cannot be changed. Sometimes it place the first bet then stops for some reason. I suppose it is intended for working only with the rigged Playtech rng.



The bot works.  Next version will have the lower limit as well.  Why don't you contac me via the contact page and send a screenshot instead of just complaining about it first at a third part site?  Also the bot works with more that just Playtec. ...Geesh
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on April 20, 2010, 02:16:15 PM
And with any casino still working bot?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: I have cookies on April 20, 2010, 02:24:57 PM

Hi anna ...

There is other options then playing online casinos with an roulette software - there is many better options ...

Cheers
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on April 21, 2010, 01:41:50 PM
any Prompt please! I am new to the casino.  But with Botho version 2 I only have the plum from the fact that there is no analyzer . . . .  I do not know why, but I can not configure the robot.  :shout:
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: susss on April 21, 2010, 07:41:26 PM
Guys i have roulette bot pro for the last couple of weeks and I have to say It so far has not worked.   I have it set on very conservative settings and had it running tonight for 3 hours and was up 88 euro.   Then in a matter of 3o mins I lost total of 230 euros.  Has anyone really made money on this system.   I find it strange that when u buy the bot u have to wait for 2 months to get the setting from the creator (maybe cause he hopes u use the default casinos and loose youre money there over the 2 months).  Perhaps he is an affialiate to these casinos????
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on April 21, 2010, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: susss on April 21, 2010, 07:41:26 PM
Guys I have roulette bot pro for the last couple of weeks and I have to say It so far has not worked.   I have it set on very conservative settings and had it running tonight for 3 hours and was up 88 euro.   Then in a matter of 3o mins I lost total of 230 euros.  Has anyone really made money on this system.   I find it strange that when u buy the bot u have to wait for 2 months to get the setting from the creator (maybe cause he hopes u use the default casinos and lose youre money there over the 2 months).  Perhaps he is an affialiate to these casinos????

This is not a "system" as you put it.  It is a bot that does what you program it to do.  You were up 88 euro then lost.  Did you ever think  of taking some profit first?  Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  You have to wait 60 days otherwise some people just get the profiles then do a refund next day.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: susss on May 03, 2010, 09:15:06 AM
I have used the 2 profiles whcih you receive with the bot and also i treid another one I received via email and have lost with all 3 so they do not work.   guys save you're money
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on May 03, 2010, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: susss on May 03, 2010, 09:15:06 AM
I have used the 2 profiles whcih you receive with the bot and also I treid another one I received via email and have lost with all 3 so they do not work.   guys save you're money

As stated on the website I do not guarantee you will win.  Most people are winning at some point but never take a profit.  Also the software does work.  It places bets exactly as it is programmed to do.  If you don't like the profiles you have why not try and create your own instead of just complaining.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: susss on May 04, 2010, 04:09:31 PM
I have created my own profiles which would be more conservative than yours and they still don't win.   AS for complaining I understand my honesty might cost you some sales but I think its only fair to let people know, this bot will not win regardless what profiles you have put in unless you can prove otherwise
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on May 04, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
Quote from: susss on May 04, 2010, 04:09:31 PM
I have created my own profiles which would be more conservative than yours and they still don't win.   AS for complaining I understand my honesty might cost you some sales but I think its only fair to let people know, this bot will not win regardless what profiles you have put in unless you can prove otherwise

I have no problem people posting thier results.  As far as winning, I have a video right on the website showing it winning.  The main key is to stop and take a profit at some point.  My main problem is when people say "This bot doesnt work"  The bot works, the results will always vary.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Noble Savage on May 04, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
Does it work as in "function properly"? Yes.

Does it work as in "guarantee consistent profits"? No. (Where you stop your session doesn't really matter, if it did we'd all be rich.)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on May 04, 2010, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: Noble Savage on May 04, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
Does it work as in "function properly"? Yes.

Does it work as in "guarantee consistent profits"? No. (Where you stop your session doesn't really matter, if it did we'd all be rich.)

You are correct, but then again no where on my site do I guarantee anything.  In fact I tell people on the faq page I do not guarantee you will win. That doesnt mean you won't.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: susss on May 05, 2010, 04:25:12 AM
Just wondered if anyone who is on this forum has won using the bot?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on May 05, 2010, 04:32:12 AM
I am sure there aer people that have won and people that have lost.  Main thing is take a profit when you are ahead :)
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on May 07, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
Matt, do you think, which affects the correct settings? I have to do in order to correctly configure all the settings the bot?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Matt on May 07, 2010, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: anna on May 07, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
Matt, do you think, which affects the correct settings? I have to do in order to correctly configure all the settings the bot?

Not sure what your question is.  Try different settings in test mode.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on May 21, 2010, 10:16:11 AM
When will the new version of the parser?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: anna on May 21, 2010, 10:27:59 AM
Matt sitemoy a play you personally?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: powerzhea on November 09, 2011, 08:10:47 AM
Ok so well i bought roulette bot pro v3.
This bot it can win or lose, and indeed its not a scam, it all depends on your config and settings, if u win or lose.
For example i started with a bankroll of 300 units, i tried a pretty aggresive playstyle, using super singles, and that made me 3000 units profit, in less then 5 minutes.
Every time i won a bet, i got around a 200 - 300 units, somewhere in between, its very high risk, because if u dont win after several flat bets, ull lose, but all u need is one 1 win, and your in such a profit, u can afford to lose several times.  The only problem i got with this method of play i use, i want it to be perfect, so that i score a winning bet, everytime the bot makes a bet, and i dont have to flat bet, 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 times.
Havent figured out the settings for that, if i do, its a very damn effective agrresive way of playing, wich will require a minimum bankroll of atleast 300 to 400 units, in order to be very succesfull, and u can then afford some losing flat bets.  If i can ever figure out the perfect settings, so ull win every bet it makes, then i will post a guide here somewhere, on what settings to use, and what the minimum bankroll should be.

But i got a question tho, ive soon some vids of the so called roulette bot pro guru settings, but the only site that offered those settings, it was last active in 2009.  So if anyone has any idea, what those guru settings are, ill be happy to listen to it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: iggiv on November 10, 2011, 12:40:57 AM
if this Bot can be forced working with RX then u can easily find the right settings without losing any money
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: powerzhea on November 10, 2011, 12:55:18 AM
Dont know about RX tho, i only know what i use with RBP and play around with it, think ive tested several hundreds of settings since i bought it, most were pretty aggressive, looking for ways to earn 1k or 2k or 3k in record time.

Think i finaly found the solution to it, the magic settings, the holy grail if u will haha.

But then again, i need to test this a little bit more, then if i find it to be very succesfull, im thinking of making a video of it, or do some live action, were people will be on skype, and watch what happends as i do, should be intresting.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Handsome1 on November 16, 2011, 10:42:36 AM
Is the roulette bot pro working nowadays in any casino? I tried in BetVoyager and SmartLive and I did not get it to work?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: superman on November 16, 2011, 12:01:42 PM
As far as I know it cant read numbers anymore but you can still enter them manually, sort of a waste of money now as its not automated anymore.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Handsome1 on November 16, 2011, 02:52:08 PM
What a scam! Nothing says in Math's website that is not working, What A Guy!
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: superman on November 16, 2011, 03:29:15 PM
Yup, from what I heard the guy who coded it for him became unreachable months ago, maybe even a year ago now, you would have thought he would have a new coder in place by now, seems like he's lost interest in it.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Handsome1 on November 16, 2011, 04:18:13 PM
Is there other choices? Roubot? Or something else?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: superman on November 17, 2011, 04:29:32 AM
QuoteIs there other choices? Roubot? Or something else?

For what purpose? there is no bot/method on the market that can win long term, don't think just because its a bot you will win, I have been coding bots for years now, still am, thousands of different methods, nothing goes the long haul, sure they can win for days but at some point it aint going to be your day and it will lose, concentrate of finding a method/system or money management that keeps you in the game longer. Save your money.
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: Handsome1 on November 17, 2011, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: superman on November 17, 2011, 04:29:32 AM
For what purpose? there is no bot/method on the market that can win long term, don't think just because its a bot you will win, I have been coding bots for years now, still am, thousands of different methods, nothing goes the long haul, sure they can win for days but at some point it aint going to be your day and it will lose, concentrate of finding a method/system or money management that keeps you in the game longer. Save your money.

A least you can use roulette bot pro for testing different systems...How man spins you need to spin, when you can say it will be good in long term?
Title: Re: Roulette Bot Pro Review
Post by: superman on November 17, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
Playing RBP by hand will take a long time

QuoteHow man spins you need to spin, when you can say it will be good in long term?

Millions of RNG spins