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Title: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 03, 2009, 10:26:54 AM
Following on from the 'Sleeper of an Idea' thread,
 
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the Isolani system has developed and has shown some promise. It has produced a good profit from one month of Spielbank,
29 sessions, but the downside is one loss of 324 units. I haven't as yet come up with any improvement to minimise the loss,
so I will continue with the assumption, that the exceptional wins will cancel out such rare losses. Further tests will hopefully
resolve this problem.
 
The theme of this system revolves around sections of the wheel where a number has not come in, with numbers either side
of it that have appeared. For example 18, (), 9. The number 9 has already appeared and when 18 came in, that created a
gap between 18 and 9, which is the number 22, as yet to come in. Those numbers would then be used for the system.
 
First of all we need to note the numbers from the wheel, clockwise 0 to 26, unless you have a copy of the wheel and mark
off the numbers as they come in.
 
I will use Spielbank spins 13.12.08 to explain the system in detail and the first few numbers are as follows:
 
5
0
16  (24)
 
[disc]5,0,16[/disc]
 
5 has come in and 16 created the gap number 24.
 

The three numbers will be entered into the gap chart:
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16,24,5
[/table]
 
18
11
18
10
17
24
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16,24,5,,1
[/table]
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
,24,
[/table]
 
The number 24 has just come in and is located in the gap chart, so this activates the betting columns. Whenever a number comes
in and it is also showing in the gap chart it automatically must be entered into the betting columns, below the gap chart. You will
see a 1 by the side of 16,24,5. This indicates it is the leader at present in the gap chart and will be included in the first bet
together with the 24 in the betting column. The first bet is 4 units with 24 having 2 units.
 
18
24
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16,24,5,,1,2
[/table]
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
,24,
,24,
[/table]
 
The number 24 came in again and a win, 2 was recorded in the gap chart and another 24 placed in the betting column. 24 is now
a three unit bet and therefore the total bet increases to 5 units.
 
8  (30)  (23)
1  (33)
28
26
16
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16*,24,5,,1,2,3
8*,30,11,,,,
8*,23,10,,,,
1,33,16*,,1,,
[/table]
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16,24,16
,24,
[/table]

Another win with 16 coming in and it is noted in A and C *. 16 also is entered in the betting column in A and C.
 
0
1
1
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16*,24,5,,1,2,3
8*,30,11,,,,
8*,23,10,,,,
1,33,16*,,1,2,3
[/table]
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
16,24,16
1,24,
1,,
[/table]
 
Column A has taken the lead in the betting column and a win and therefore the bets are on numbers 16,1,1 and 16,24,5 in the
gap chart, as it hasn't been overtaken by any other gap line.
 
6
1
21
 
A further win with 1 and at 22 spins the total is +113.
 
I have made the win target at round +100, but of course if the unit bets are low and the total is around +150, it worth a few
more bets, as in the previous test I did get some 200+.
 
It is important to have a strategy concerning losses. The exit strategy where possible is around -50. This is not always possible
to achieve and the second consideration should therefore be around -100. When the unit bets get to around 17 units and the
session has shown a steady loss then a realistic exit should be take at the recommended -50 or -100. The rare -327, as mentioned
at the beginning, hopefully is rare and has to be considered most probably at between 70 and 100 spins when the session indicates
it's an obvious loss.
 
I have found this an interesting system to develop and I hope you also find it it of some interest. I will continue testing Isolani
for a while and I welcome your questions and any suggestions.
 
Mr Chips
 


 

 

Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 04, 2009, 05:16:26 PM
I am working on the 324 loss problem. I have a possible solution and will spend a few days on it, then explain the
improvement.
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on April 04, 2009, 05:54:03 PM
Cool.
Nice one Mr Chips
TSK
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: VLSroulette on April 05, 2009, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: Mr Chips on April 04, 2009, 05:16:26 PM
I am working on the 324 loss problem. I have a possible solution and will spend a few days on it, then explain the
improvement.
 
Mr Chips

Kudos for Sharing your Isolani System with us dear Richard.  :thumbsup:

May the system continue grinding the profits. Remember we are open and looking forward yoiur improvements.

Haye you considered using only the "most common drawdown" strategy. I.e. measure drawdowns and see if you have a common point which is still profitable and allows for a clear "let go" point, keeping what you have made.

I.e. your "most common drawdown" goes below -100, you are +27 (127 total units) then when ou reach a -100 drawdown at any given point, you get out and keep these 27 units "for the average", perhaps there's a point under this approach which can work as viable solution instead of trying to overcome maximum loss.

It is my experience these "maximums" aren't usually a common event and trying to cut them smartly at a conscious point instead of trying to overcome the largest usually is the way to go.

Best regards.
Victor
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr J on April 06, 2009, 01:12:03 AM
(Starting off) What if the 1 hits, then 9 then 14. Now what?  Ken
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 06, 2009, 04:35:01 AM
QuoteHave you considered using only the "most common drawdown" strategy. I.e. measure drawdowns and see if you have a
common point which is still profitable and allows for a clear "let go" point, keeping what you have made.

Victor, yes you have made a very valid point and it is one of two or three possible solutions to the problem. With this type
of system it is not so easy unlike say 4Selecta, where it is much easier to control losses.
 
What I need is to examine a lot more sessions, particularly losing sessions to work out the best solution to the problem.
 
I will press on with January Spielbank and hopefully the profit won't be too big lol ::)
 
Kind regards
 
Richard
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 06, 2009, 04:46:39 AM
Quote from: Mr J on April 06, 2009, 01:12:03 AM
(Starting off) What if the 1 hits, then 9 then 14. Now what?  Ken

Hi Ken,
 
14 will create two gap numbers :
 
14  (31)  (20)
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
14,31,9
14,20,1
[/table]
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Natural9 on April 06, 2009, 05:17:29 AM
As usual you come up with a gr8 novel idea Mr Chips I was just wondering why you call it Isolani system Is this partly based on DS

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 06, 2009, 05:35:37 AM
Quote from: Natural9 on April 06, 2009, 05:17:29 AM
As usual you come up with a gr8 novel idea Mr Chips I was just wondering why you call it Isolani system Is this partly based on DS

Regards Rodney

It's taken from a chess position, where there is an isolated Queens pawn, just
a slight connection, as there is an isolated gap number. Also I like the way it
sounds 8) :)

Regards
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 08, 2009, 03:16:07 PM
[table=,]
Date,spins,+/-
1.1.09,52,+234
2.1,43,+242
3.1,44,-95
4.1,40,+76
5.1,64,+32
6.1,21,+76
7.1,23,+71
8.1,78,-110
9.1,16,+103
10.1,91,+164
[/table]
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: pins on April 08, 2009, 07:54:38 PM

do you think we should put a limit on the number of bets. say you get to five numbers . and then play till you get a winner
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: RPro75 on April 09, 2009, 04:22:28 AM
I'm lost.
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 09, 2009, 05:08:26 AM
Quote from: pins on April 08, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
do you think we should put a limit on the number of bets. say you get to five numbers . and then play till you get a winner

Looking back over the work sheets in a number of sessions it was only necessary to have 5 numbers or even less to make a profit.
 
It is necessary to keep track of which betting columns are in the lead, but I
will keep your suggestion in mind and thanks for your input.
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 09, 2009, 05:10:48 AM
Quote from: RPro75 on April 09, 2009, 04:22:28 AM
I'm lost.

At what point did you get lost?
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Bazeegar on April 14, 2009, 09:38:25 PM
If 15 comes then 19 and then 4. Do you still put this in gap chart? If yes how? And do you start betting 19?
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 15, 2009, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: Bazeegar on April 14, 2009, 09:38:25 PM
If 15 comes then 19 and then 4. Do you still put this in gap chart? If yes how? And do you start betting 19?

The numbers did not create a gap number.
 
If 15 came in then 4, that would create the gap number 19 and would show in
the gap chart as follows :
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
4,19,15,,1
[/table]
 
Note: It was 4 that created the gap number 19

If then 19 comes in next you will see from the gap chart that 19 is in the B
column where the gap numbers are placed and it will then also be placed in
the betting columns :
 
[table=,]
A,B,C
,19,
[/table]
 
If this was the start of a session the bet would be 4,19,15 and 19.

You will see that a 1 has been placed beside 4,19,15 this denotes at this stage
that it is in the lead and this won't change unless it is overtaken by another
gap line.
 
19 is a two unit bet and together with 4 and 15 the first bet will be 4 units.
 
Mr Chips
Title: Re: The Isolani system
Post by: Mr Chips on April 30, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
[table=,]
Date,spins,+/-
11.1.09,36,+86
12.2,43,+16
[/table]