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Title: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: Allin on April 11, 2009, 05:48:30 AM
This I have tested with 10K of spins. :-[

Dozens longest sleep          :23
2 Dozens longest sleep       :9
Single number longest sleep : 384
Black & RED longest sleep    :17
Hi & Low   longest sleep        :13
Odd & Even longest sleep    :12
Line longest sleep              :61
Street longest sleep           :144
Rows longest sleep             :20

So now which Math can beat this kind of longest sleep.   ::)

If anyone has good math system let me know, I can help you guys to test. :o :o

Regards


Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: VLSroulette on April 12, 2009, 01:06:15 PM
Hi Allin, thanks for sharing the results of your test with us mate :thumbsup:

Kudos.

BTW, what do you mean with "Math System"?

Regards.
Victor
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: pablos on July 31, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
Found on some website(hxxp: turbogenius. webs. com/whatsthelongest. htm):

After 1 000 000 spins.  RNG

Location. . . Longest no show. . . Most repeated

Straight Up. . . . . . . 466. . . . . . . . . . 4
Splits. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 249. . . . . . . . . . 6
Streets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 160. . . . . . . . . . 7
Corners. . . . . . . . . . . . 136. . . . . . . . . . 7             
Line. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89. . . . . . . . . . . . 9           
Dozen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35. . . . . . . . . . . 13
Column. . . . . . . . . . . . . 38. . . . . . . . . . . 12
Even Money. . . . . . 24. . . . . . . . . . . 19
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: sprogy on August 01, 2010, 09:19:59 AM
I don't know which rng you used, but with the . NET System. Random it went over 40 for dozens and over 600 for single numbers. . . but I tried it with 10 or 100 million spins, don't remember exactly

So the winning math really is quite simple, just start betting the farm, once you get a 40 column sleeper.    ;D
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: pablos on August 01, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
I didn't use any roulette. These are not my stats. I just found it on some website and share with others. If you have any other stats with other longer series please post more.

Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: sprogy on August 04, 2010, 04:33:07 PM
I was referring to the original post, I don't have complete stats, maybe someday I will produce them on a few billion rng spins just for the feel of it.   ;)

But this does leave me wondering, where are the limits of randomness, what standards do they evaluate any rng againts? For example if a certain single number on a certain online casino wouldn' hit for a 1. 000 spins, or 5. 000 spins (it's an exaggeration, I know), would they still be able to call that "random"?
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: pablos on August 05, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
I think there are some limits of randomness. I compared few sets os spins I mean 10k spins from live casino, 700k spins from live casino and outcomes which I wrote about above (1 mln. RNG) and I din't compared everything because dozens interested me most but for dozen if I checked good longest series in 700 k live spins was the same like in the 1 000 000 RNG spins which was 35 spins without one dozen. In my opinion there are some limits which won't be beaten with probability very close to certainly. One can say that from mathematical point of view every series is possible that during xxx kkkkk spins longer series will come sure but does it really interests us ? since none of us will do so many spins in his entire lifetime. I mean I think randomness have some limits and the second we shouldn't care about series that are possible during so many spins that we never manage to do.  
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: sprogy on March 18, 2011, 02:57:00 PM
I coldn't agree more with you, by now, I got a few thousand of reasons to believe it.  :)
Title: Re: RNG Longest sleep
Post by: schoenpoetser on March 20, 2011, 12:11:35 PM
Sprogy:IF you like to test very large samples of over 1M,  I ask you to test my HG.
If H-L = +15  bet flat one unit L till H-L=0 and if H-L=-15 bet flat 1 unit H till H-L=0.Stop after the first  hit after 1M spins. I predict every sample over 1M will give a positive BR.
Nobody has the courage to test this model.It is not a practical system for the roulette.