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Title: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on November 29, 2007, 12:41:41 PM
Hi Everyone,

Do you remember the first time you were at a roulette table? I do vividly and man what a lesson.

I was very active in the sport of bodybuilding and two of my students who became my best mates at the time, their names Jack and Fiad wanted to thank me for all the help I gave them in their training in the gymnasium, and decided to take me out on a boys night out.

They took me out for dinner and said we are going to the casino after to play roulette and would I mind,I said not at all lets go.After a nice evening us guys had a nice chat with out the women with us as they insisted on that as these guys were in their late twentys and wanted to enjoy themselves.

We went to a casino called "Sibaya" a very beautifull casino,anyway we went right in to the roulette section and went to a table that was a five rand minimum table (our currency is "Rands") so that makes the ouside bets R50-00 min.We each put in R200-00 so we had a B/R OF R600-00.

Not knowing how the game was played I asked what now? Jack said Fiad was the expert as Fiad layed the cash on the table and waited for the chips, the casino was very busy as It  was Friday night and jammed.
I asked Fiad what now he says we are playing the two columns my reply was "oh" not knowing what the hell he was talking about.
Sheepishly Iasked whats that mean and he told me we are going to bet on two sets of twelve numbers in the three columns and pointed them out to me.
And he said it pays 2-1 for our two we get one and a loss we lose two,he added that we have a 63% chance of winning and we flat bet he says not knowing what the hell that meant,we did not lose so we won flat betting,I wonder what Fiad would have done if he lost.

The dealer spun and we won,we had five straight wins in a row our R600-00 was now R850-00 I thought man this is easy,after an hour we had R1000-00 A good R400-00 profit.We left and went for a couple of beers,paid for and our dinner paid for by the casino,I said man I love this place I could quite easily do this.I said to Fiad you are good man how did you do that?He said he bet on the last column that hit and chose the the one that hit before that one and that was his strategy.
I said at this rate we could milk the casino Fiad just laughed at me,I said I am serious man we could make some serious cash here this is easy,all he did was shrug his shoulders,did he know something I did not know.

After really enjoying myself we went home very late that night and spent the whole weekend thinking about roulette I had been bitten.
On monday I said to Alice I am going to the casino all I need is R200-00 and I will double that,she said really as easy as that,do you know how to play she asked,I replied I dont know all the wagers but The one we were playing is all you need to know to make some cash.
And I was off to the casino and now the game has started boy was I in for a surprise.

Iwill talk again tomorrow.
Ronjo.



 
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on December 02, 2007, 05:59:38 AM
Well on the monday after I got back from work which was about 4-30pm I headed straight to the casino with R200-00.I went to the same table that we were playing at on the Friday night, bought my four R50-00 chips and bet on the last column to show and a bet on the one that showed before that and I won, I got my R50-00 chip profit for the two R50-00 chips I laid on the table.I won the next three games still using the method Fiad showed me,so I was up R200-00 so I had R400-00 now.

Now I put the R200-00 profit in my left pocket and still had R200-00 to play with and I said to myself that if I lost that there was no way I am going to take the other R200-00 out as far as I was concerned it was locked away.I can always try another day.
Little did I know in the future that this is what it was going to take to be ahead in this game.
Anyway what I did was I put the whole profit on the two columns a R100-00 on each column and yes I won,I did this untill I had R750-00 profit there was a guy playinig next to me and he said well done pal,I replied thanks man and left.
I got home at 6-30pm so I was gone 2 hours,When I got home Alice said gee that was quick you lost the money,so I smiled at her and took my beanbag off my waist and put it on the coffee table and said look inside.I did not cash in my chips I just put them in my beanbag and rushed out as I wanted to come back again the next evening after work.
Alice was wondering why I did not cash in my chips as I could see the dissapointment in her face,so I said not to worry I am going to make more tomorrow.

The next day the same time I was off to the casino went to the same table and played the same way and was up R400-00.By the end of the week which was a Frid I was up R3000-00.I still had not cashed in to Alice's dissapointment again.
I said to Alice I am going to spend the Sat**day at the casino and I will double that, man this was to easy I said to her I could give up my day job,she just looked at me as though I had lost my mind.Boy was she right.

Sat**day Alice said just take four chips with you and leave the rest here and I refused big mistake. I was at the casino at about 3-00pm and headed straight for the same table and bought my four R50-00 chips My first bet was R50-00 on each column and wham it happened I lost.Most of you know what this feels like you think you are invincible and when you lose after being on a roller coaster for awhile it feels like a sledgehammer has hit you.So I doubled on the same two columns that I bet previously and wham I lost again,I thought hell those two have to come in and yes I bet them again and lost,well to end it all I had R200-00 in my left pocket and the profits in my right pocket which had gone.The decision I made was to leave still with my original R200-00,so disgusted in myself saying to myself I should have changed the columns how many have you said I should have done that and that but it was to damn late for that.
I headed home and I had to tell Alice I lost all the profits as she had planned to buy things for her garden with that money I felt so bad.I had wasted all that time everyday just to land up square,man was I disgusted with myself.

So now I said to Alice I am not beat yet I am going back but this time I do not take cash with me,Alice asked why not my reply was I need to know everything about this game so I will go with pen and paper and see what other wagers there are to play.
Please do not use these systems that I am posting I will get to the systems that have earned some profits and I will recommend them and show how to play them as we get to them.
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Mr J on December 31, 2007, 11:12:50 PM
I was thinking about my first time and how embarrassed I was. lol I'm a believer in using a notebook at the table BUT I brought with me a 10.5x8 inch notebook, like I was going to class or something. lol This HUGE yellow notebook. Everyone was laughing. What was my very first method you ask? Forgot what its called but its when you cross off end numbers after a win, sound familiar? Like you start off with 10 10. (playing the ECs). On a loss, I think you add 10 and 10? Something like that. It started off real good but then BAM, lost around $800, good times with that method. I thought I had to ask permission to use the bathroom. lol My first day was a big learning process. I have always said, you will learn much more from losing then you will from winning!!  Ken
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: admin on January 01, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
QuoteI have always said, you will learn much more from losing then you will from winning!

Sure you do Ken,
Just remember also to advice people that unlike learning from the winning side, using losing for learning process can wipe your bank account!

...Morality: What you can learn from losing at the table, you can learn -for free- from losing at home playing in virtual with real actuals [smiley=wink.gif]

Victor
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Mr J on January 01, 2008, 12:54:34 PM
Money issues are not the only things you can learn at the table. Etiquette is one example. The rules are another example or how to get around some rules. The learning is NOT all about losing 6K.  [smiley=lolk.gif]  It took me three tries to come up with the proper size notebook. At first, I made a mistake and only had one pen. The pen died and I was temporarily screwed. I now bring two with me. THEN, I needed to erase something (made a mistake) could not, temporarily screwed. I now bring erasable pens or pencils. MANY, MANY examples that have nothing to do with money.  Ken
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Colin on March 29, 2008, 07:53:17 AM
Ronjo please tell the board when you hope to publish your Roulette Book as i am shure many would love to have it in there collection .Tks Colin
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on March 29, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Hi Colin,

I planned for the publication for the end of the year,and I will be posting in this section regulary very soon.

Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Colin on March 29, 2008, 08:25:04 PM
I for 1 will certinly be looking foreward to your book .Tks Colin
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on July 22, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
Hi All,

I am going to post a bit about my ups and downs playing roulette.

Note:What I am going to show you are all my first steps in playing the table layout,and we will progress to the point In the way I play now.

I will cut a long story short,after spending many hours studying this game especially the table layout which is designed for you to lose mathematically if you play the table,we will get to playing the wheel later.

I found that playing the two dozens and two columns were attractive to me as it covered most of the table (24 numbers) and had a payout of 2-1.so on a win you had a one chip profit and on a loss you had a two chip loss,so I had to watch that I did not have to many losses as you could dig a deep pit for yourself and could not climb out.

About progression,I personally think that if you play the table layout you would need to use a passive progression to win, flatbetting would keep you at the table for awhile but you will surely lose,I personally used a one step progression,the sample below is a three step progrssion which also could be used as follows:

1-1
3-3
9-9


This is how I would choose which columns or dozens to play.

I would wait for say if # 10 from the first column hit and then wait for the second or third column to hit then I would put a chip on those two columns if I lost I would use a one step progression and play one more time on the same columns.If I lost that I would change and bet the last hit columns.

Say for instance you had a repeat in the same column with # 10 in the first column and then you have a hit with # 36 in the third column you play the repeat column and the third column.

You play exactly the same way with the dozens.

Always play the last two hit columns.
Below are the table layouts.

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Below are some samples of play with columns.

You could enter a game right in the middle of a bad drawdown,or you could be lucky and enter with a good trend,stay with the trend in this case trend is your friend.

The following tables all had $500 banks to start with,using $5 bets
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Here the Dozens did not do to well.

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If you have any questions please ask,or if you would post some spins we can go through the spins and do a little test.And then we can move onto the next method.Its best to play this method for very short durations,we used to start with $50 each chip and some times use up to a $500 chip.and we were out of there wihin fifteen spins or even less.To play with low value chips for many spins would be suicide,you will surely lose.

WARNING:THIS METHOD IS NOT A SURE WINNER YOU ARE AT RISK.

Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: MattyMattz on July 23, 2008, 01:07:08 PM
Thanks for the post Ronjo - looking forward to the next one!

Matt
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: bloomone2002 on July 26, 2008, 12:42:45 AM
Hello Ronjo,
Here are some spins from a double zero wheel at a land casino in the US to apply your method:

Spin    Result
1   20
2   25
3   2
4   20
5   1
6   30
7   16
8   10
9   30
10   32
11   5
12   15
13   8
14   28
15   9
16   28
17   6
18   12
19   24
20   0
21   14
22   27
23   35
24   9
25   6
26   0
27   6
28   26
29   11
30   21
31   5
32   24
33   00
34   0
35   12
36   26
37   10
38   36
39   00
40   26
41   15
42   35
43   8
44   27
45   29
46   22
47   33
48   19
49   11
50   20
51   16
52   24
53   5
54   21
55   28
56   9
57   22
58   4
59   36
60   4
Bloom
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on July 26, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
Hi Bloom,

I have recorded the spins and I will post in the next few days.
And the we will move on to using 24 numbers again but using the quads.

Cheers Bud,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: bloomone2002 on July 26, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
Ok, thanks Ronjo
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: MattyMattz on July 26, 2008, 02:45:11 PM
wicked news! can't wait!

thanks,
matt
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: bloomone2002 on July 26, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: mattymattz on July 26, 2008, 02:45:11 PM
wicked news! can't wait!

thanks,
matt


ROFL!
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Toothpaste on July 27, 2008, 06:27:05 AM
Hi Ronjo.
I like reading your posts, very interesting stuff. It was good to read beginning experiences from good player like you, hope there will be alot more :)

Cheers, TP
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: MattyMattz on July 28, 2008, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: bloomone2002 on July 26, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: mattymattz on July 26, 2008, 02:45:11 PM
wicked news! can't wait!

thanks,
matt


ROFL!

Not sure what's so funny...?

Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on July 28, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: Toothpaste on July 27, 2008, 06:27:05 AM
Hi Ronjo.
I like reading your posts, very interesting stuff. It was good to read beginning experiences from good player like you, hope there will be alot more :)

Cheers, TP

Hi TP,

Thanks for the compliment,I am no expert but I try my best to try and get the slightest edge Keep watching the posts,I will be posting often from now.

Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 28, 2008, 04:36:30 PM
.....and I'll guarantee you one thing....

I'll cut and paste so they don't get lost like the ones on the old forum!

Sm
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Diarmaid on August 02, 2008, 09:53:22 PM
Looking forward Ronjo,

Cheers [smiley=beer.gif]
D
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on August 04, 2008, 01:40:01 PM
Hi Guys,

Have had a hectic past week,but in a few days I will get going on everything step by step. 8)

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: bloomone2002 on August 04, 2008, 02:15:25 PM
Great thanks for the update. All the best. We'll be watching
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Toothpaste on August 04, 2008, 02:29:04 PM
Thanks for update mate. We have time, no need to rush things...

Cheers, TP
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 04, 2008, 04:11:54 PM
TwoCatSam<--------drooling on his keyboard!
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Lanky on August 04, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Hi Ronjo.

Mate You take Your time Cobber.

I hope all is well on the Home front Buddy.

Love to the Family Mate.

Lanky
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on November 30, 2008, 09:44:20 AM
Quote from: bloomone2002 on July 26, 2008, 12:42:45 AM
Hello Ronjo,
Here are some spins from a double zero wheel at a land casino in the US to apply your method:
Bloom

Hi Bloom,
Here is the columns strategy I used to play against your spins.


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Remember to play the last two hit columns,and if you win keep playing for two more spins only if winning,if you lose play a one step progression only, its no good going deeper into a progression as you will only be beating a dead horse,and if you win after a progression stop betting and wait for two new columns,and start again.Try and play for three wins only and retrack again.On average you will find a column sleeping up to five spins and on occasions up to seven spins and you do get longer,this strategy is to take advantage of a sleeping column it would be safer to keep to three consecutive wins and then restart. You can see how the bets were exactly played in the two illustrations above there were sixty spins and we made a profit of $135.

Progression using $5 chips:
1-1
3-3

Warning: playing bets on the outside of the table like the even bets and the dozens and columns is risky over a long term you will surely lose.

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: wiggy on November 30, 2008, 10:46:46 PM
Thanks for this example Ronjo! sounds great for a short term hit & run.

Although how can you be sure the columns will hold out in the long run?
When you lose on your suggested progression 8 units will be lost and it will take a little bit of good fortune again to build them back up...
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on December 06, 2008, 09:54:13 AM
Hi Wiggy,

Thats what I teach is that the columns and dozens or the evens bets could never hold out over the long term if you use the table layout,but I will show how you can use the wheel to capitalise on playing the columns, dozens,streets,quads,splits.It will take some time to do the illustrations but as soon as I have done them I will post them.I will show how I have used the table layout and then how I use the wheel layout with each strategy.

Best Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: wiggy on December 06, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
Ronjo - I eagerly await your posts in the near future. You have sparked many discussions and ideas in these forums and I'm happy this experience you have learned is filtering out to the whole community.

If you need any help with anything don't hesitate to PM me! Keep the good times rolling!

Wiggy
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on December 10, 2008, 06:11:54 PM
Hi Guys,

Lets move on to another 24# method I used.But keep in mind that I am showing you how I progressed from the beginning of my playing days.I will show all the table layout methods from 24 #s down to 6#s,and then I will show wheel layout methods including the method I used to win the challenge.

OK so now we will use 24#s using the quads with six chips.
Below we have A and B and the quads are highlighted in yellow and we have a blue chip showing where to place the bet.
So now we are going to wait for a spin that does not hit the centre column,as you can see the centre column is covered all the time.So if we have a #3 come in we play all the quads that are highlighted in group B,and if we win we stop and we wait for another spin and play that group as long as it is not a centre column # we only play the first and third column #s.we only play for one win only.If we lose we stop and wait for another spin and then we use only a one step progression,and if we win or lose we wait for another spin and play that group as long as it is not a # in the centre column and go back to one chip per quad.So we are actually jumping from one group to the other and playing what is trending.
Look at the betting history illustrations below to see how the bets were made.If you dont understand let me know and I will give some examples.The following was from a real wheel.


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Starting Bankroll was $500
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Be Warned this is not a long term winner.
Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on December 10, 2008, 08:19:11 PM
Hi Ronjo,
Very imformative posts.I will be watching for the others,
Thank you.
TSK
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: xman1970 on December 10, 2008, 08:20:04 PM
WoW a way to play that I understood straight away  ;)


Thx Ronjo [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Please keep it coming..... Very interesting...... 8)
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: alarian on February 10, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
It's been some time now  :'(
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: wiggy on February 10, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Yes I wonder where our teacher Ronjo has gone?

Such a pleasure to read about your journey against the casinos.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on February 11, 2009, 03:49:37 AM
I bet Ol Ronjo is surfing it up with his mates! I understand he just cannot say no to a good set of waves!

Cheers
Jakk
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: alarian on February 11, 2009, 04:21:45 PM
2 months surfing is a long time...

My bet is he's busy with Steve's computer...
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on March 20, 2009, 03:01:58 PM
Hi Guys,

I have been busy with a few things,but I will post a method I used in my beginning days of roulette which is based on the table layout using three double streets which is 18 numbers.I must warn you it does lose so be careful.

Two-Cat-Sam is famililar with this system and tested it extensively.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg413.imageshack.us%2Fimg413%2F5305%2Fronjo1.jpg&hash=f3fb1143218c0c3837649cd4a5a050fe7e49cdc2) (nolinks://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ronjo1.jpg)

See the post below the attachment is there.

BE WARNED THIS IS NOT A SURE WINNER PLAY WHILE THE TREND LASTS.

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Boo_Ray on March 20, 2009, 06:02:24 PM
great ronjo :D nice to se you posting some good stuff again  :thumbsup::D
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 20, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
Ah, yes, this takes me back.........

I tested this system over 5,000 spins from CasinoWebCam in early 2007.  I still have all my worksheets, although they are in terrible order. 

A GOOD THING FOR SOME INDUSTRIOUS PERSON TO DO:  Learn this system and test it using Lanky's six point divisor.

I learned that the system gets about as close to purely mechanical as any I've tested.  There are no decisions to make; just bet as directed.  Ronjo did say if you were taking a beating to not stand there and take it.  Switch tables, days or even split the progression and wait for a new trigger.

I was trying it and accidentally came upon another slightly slower version.  It's that Onesey-Twosey thing I posted before.  You can run them both in conjunction but there will be a time when they bump heads and you will have to either bet both black and red or sit on your hands.

Thanks Ronjo for making this public.

Sam
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Boo_Ray on March 20, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
can you post larger pictures I can harly read :D
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 20, 2009, 10:51:19 PM
I must assume since Ronjo posted this he will have no objection to my attaching the originals he sent me in 2007.

Sam
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on March 21, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
Hi Sam,

Sure Sam you can attach the original if you like I would have but I dont have a clue of how to do that,me and computers are not friends, I am old school like Lanky.I have the same method with playing the even bets if you can tell me how to attach that I will.if you dont have it I can e-mail it to you and you can do it if you dont mind.I took screenshots of the pages sorry if they are a bit small.

Just to let you all know Sam worked extremley hard on testing this method,thanks for that Sam. :thumbsup:

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 21, 2009, 10:37:34 AM
Ronjo

Yes, e-mail it to TwoCatSam@cox.net and I will post it.

Sam
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on March 21, 2009, 10:58:41 AM
@ Ronjo and Sam
Thanks you guys for posting this on here
TSK
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: VLSroulette on March 21, 2009, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: Ronjo on March 21, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
Hi Sam,

Sure Sam you can attach the original if you like I would have but I dont have a clue of how to do that,me and computers are not friends, I am old school like Lanky.I have the same method with playing the even bets if you can tell me how to attach that I will.if you dont have it I can e-mail it to you and you can do it if you dont mind.I took screenshots of the pages sorry if they are a bit small.

Just to let you all know Sam worked extremley hard on testing this method,thanks for that Sam. :thumbsup:

Regards,
Ronjo.

Ronnie my mate, it seems Imageshack resized images a bit too much. Good thing is you don't need external image services to attach images to your post, as the forum has its own Image attachment functionality.

1) You attach via forum's functionality (which can be seen below posting textbox at posting page).
2) You use [attachimg=#] tag where you want image to appear.

That's it. Couldn't be easier, and your image will remain original size as we do not cut quality over image size for fellow readers ;)

Here is a post at reference area detailing the steps to inserting images at forum:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/inserting-images-in-your-post/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/inserting-images-in-your-post/)

Regards.

Your friend,
Victor
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on March 21, 2009, 03:38:41 PM
Hi Victor,

Thanks I hope this is right, you are a star, :thumbsup:

WHEN PLAYING THIS METHOD BEWARE OF LOSING STREAKS AS THIS METHOD IS DESIGNED AROUND THE TABLE LAYOUT AND NOT THE WHEEL.

[attachimg=#]

Regards,
Ronjo.


Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2009, 01:29:53 AM
Hi Ronjo and Two Cat Sam

It's a long time since I have visited the Forum. I have missed you guys but I'm too busy with my two new grand-daughters and playing roulette in Hamilton NZ.
It was at this very forum that I was able to piece together a winning strategy for myself. And it was due in no small way to you two guys.
I remember at the time I eating, sleeping and breathing roulette. I dreamed of various approaches every night. By putting together a couple of strategies that didn't quite stack up on their own I was able to tweak one of them until it was absolutely sound.  Many of you will be saying who is this guy - sounds like a scammer etc. but Ronjo and Two Cat Sam know me well enough from the old days to know that I'm nothing of the sort. (I'm Steve, not Stephano by the way).

I enjoyed working with Ronjo over the year trialing his strategies and it was just a chance remark made by Two Cat Sam that enabled me to finally work out my own winning strategy.
Remember when I said I hated seeing those nolinksnolinks's go by and not being able to tap into them. Two Cat Sam, your reply was that instead of betting up until LL, you waited until after LL before you bet!!! This virtual betting by Victor and your chance remark set me on the road to finally working out an approach to roulette that stands up over the long term.

I enjoyed the forums, especially this one because it has members who are willing to let others make contributions without tearing them to shreads like on other negative forums. Victor is a Saint!

So many people have e-mailed me for my winning strategy but even though I'm a sharing guy I find I'm reluctant to give it up just to every Tom, Dick and Harry if they haven't felt the frustration and put in the committment themselves to working out an approach of their own. Like I said you have to eat, sleep and breathe roulette otherwise it won't come to you.

Good luck you guys. Keep in touch.

Kind regards
Steve
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: TwoCatSam on March 23, 2009, 10:16:15 AM
Steve

Good to hear from you, my friend.  Glad to hear you are winning still.  You know, I do remember that comment I made and the context in which it was made.  Glad I could help. 

We recently had an addition to our family.  We call her our "great grand daughter in law by marriage".  (She came to us in a round-about way, don't you see?)

You take care.

Sam
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Ronjo on March 23, 2009, 04:48:51 PM
Hi Steve,

Great to see you are still around,yes everyone Steve is no scammer and has contributed a lot on RR a few years back and helped me a lot.
Its good that you are winning still Steve.

Take care,
Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2009, 07:24:22 PM
Hi Ronjo and Two Cat Sam

It was good to visit the Forum again and pleasing to see that the friendly atmosphere is still working well. I have also noted one other aspect and that is that people are actually suggesting strategies for others to evaluate without that fear of harsh criticism. Still happens a lot on other forums. I find it hard to communicate with the doubters and doom merchants on Forums because I don't have the vocabulary fire-power nor the Maths Acumen to compete.

However, I do have that cheeky smile on my face because I know that I can beat casinos with my robust strategy. Some say that it takes too long to achieve a betting opportunity but only yesterday I left the Hamilton Casino with a $500 profit after 90 minutes. So to those who feel it's too long to wait for that 'ideal' betting opportunity, I'm happy to wait in a queue somwhere in the pouring rain, in mid-winter if they would give me $500 after 90 minutes.

Anyway, you guys, since I have 'mastered' the casino beast I now have to be careful that I don't over-play my successes in front of the wrong people. Casinos are there for profit and do not take kindly to people like me taking a regular $500 day after day because that would be $500 x 365 = $182,500. No casino is going to let you get away with that.

I attend once a week, while my wife's at her Women's Club, and make a big fuss when I do come across that one loss in 20 bets. I lose the $525 and make some noise; shift around in my seat and make a fuss about leaving with a flourish. This is designed to get the attention of the watchers above to ensure they see me lose. Hopefully they will think that $525 is a goodly amount for a steady person to lose. However, since I have absolute faith in my strategy, I return in the afternoon and within two winning bets I have my $525 back and go on to win my $500 profit.  The loses don't occur very often so I make sure they are aware of them whenever they turn up. Needless to say, I don't draw attention to myself when I win. I am just a little old man who sits there drinking coffee minding his own business and betting every now and again! 
Since I aim for $500 profit per week I get $26,000 a year (tax free). In the future I intend travelling more and visiting the famous casinos where there is no limit to winning.

To the other members of this Forum I suggest you pick your way through  some of the earlier threads and put huge hours into thinking about roulette. Just think of it as WORK. Most people put in a hell of a lot of hours working for their bosses so why not put in the hard work for yourself. You must keep at it until something gels.  I got stuck on the 'Outside Bettors' nightmare - the dreaded zero. The solution was so simple when it came to me. Instead of fighting it, I incorporated it into the strategy with an 'insurance' bet and increased my outside bets to accommodate the extra on zero. I know it sounds simple now, but at the time I was really frustrated.

Once I had that beaten, the strategy stood up to everything they could throw at it. The reason it loses 1 in 20 bets is that 'possibility factor' or even Murphy's Law. In any game of chance anything is possible but to spin 3 zeros in a row is not very probable! That's why every now and then the 'possibility factor' will catch up with me.

Keep up the good work you guys, I'll try to get back every so often.   :thumbsup:

Kind regards
Steve
Title: Re: "Your First Time At A Roulette Table"
Post by: marvin on August 03, 2012, 12:36:48 AM
nice read, i can relate on this  :pleasantry: