hey.
I'm still asking myself
do you know or heard anybody who got rich or at least who live from roulette ?
Hi Newcomer
I have tried a multitude of strategies only to find that they work for a while and then crash and burn.
However since reading Victor's philosophy of the wonderful nolinksLw theory I have made money consistently for the past year. This is no idle boast. His nolinksLLw approach to wait for the right time to bet is amazing when coupled with some strategies I use.
Here is a list of results in the columns:
wLwwLnolinkswwLwLnolinksLLwLwLwLLwwwLLwLwwLwLLwwwLLwwLLwnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinks
This was my latest visit to a live casino yesterday in Hamilton, New Zealand with a live dealer at a Rapid Roulette table where there are touch screens that require a spin every 40 seconds. Payouts are electronic so it means you get an awful lot of spin in during a session.
After every LL I placed a$100 bet on the columns and won every time for a profit of $600.
Kind regards
Steve
There have been some commented at the "Forumsphere".
Christian Kaisan:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204376795
And also google the Ritz Team...
The aim of several players here is not to "get rich" mate. Rather, the largest concern is to "skin the sheep" consistently. Myself included in the "little by little" makes it bandwagon :) Hopefully others can talk for themselves on their experiences.
Here Lanky, Kimo, Gamlet, Ronjo... Herb... and I'm sure others can confirm making something at the table consistently but not Buying the private island. YET! 8-)
Hi Steve
You were extremly Lucky not to have run into LLL....Or More
But Yes you are right Mate its a Good System.
I posted that System on our old Forum On the 5th November 2007.
As the G system.
And I also showed how to do it with a 2 point Divisor plan & a saver on the Zero Pocket.
Heres The Post again so others can benefit from it.
This was only on the Dozens but works just as well for the Columns.
Hi Forum
Here's another way to play the Lw Method By just using the LLw pattern only
Ok because a Mate of mine called Gomez & the enthusiasm that Rubberman shows and who signs off as G .
I am calling this
The G System
Its simple & its come about because Sam & Myself nearly always bet the LLw pattern to form.
I have watched this from day one that I started playing the Lw method of Victor's
And I don't think I have ever seen it lose My Mate Gomez has used it for a month or more & it has never lost on Him either.
Of course there are never any guarantees & its possible that it can lose.
If You use it like this every day you play then it probably will lose some time in the future.
That day could be today or tomorrow.
But its My job to try & keep your losses Low.( So please use a 100 / 200 unit stop Loss)
You don't get too many bets but they are Quality bets with a high degree of certainty to Win.
After every LL You bet for the W to come for 2 bets only.
So if this pattern lost you would have LLLL & we stop betting & wait until the pattern forms again.
I have found that the W will form 95% plus of the time before it reaches the 4th L.
The divisor is 2 & the target is 4
The divisor is never any lower than 2
And it only ever goes up after we have lost to 4 Ls=LLLL
And we will be taking the Zero pocket of Zero 1 2 3
And I will mark the profit this way = [1]P
19- -
7-2/1-<<The 7 is the number spun..2/1 are the Last two Dozens that formed.
Like 2/1 means 2nd & 1st dozens formed
15-2/1-W
25-3/2-L
33-3/2-W
7-1/3-L
12-1/3-W
25-3/1-W
18-2/3-L
15-2/3-W
20-2/3-W
31-3/2-W
13-2/3-W
7-1/2-L
21-2/1-W
14-2/1-W
20-2/1-W
(1)-1/2-W
26-3/1-L
10-1/3-W
34-3/1-W
24-2/3-L
7-1/2-L
19-2/1-W=2/4=2x2+1Zp=5 less 6 back=[1]P
29-3/2-L
32-3/2-W
(Z)--0.....
6-1/3-L
11-1/3-W
23-2/1-L
25-3/2-L
(Z)--0.....=2/4=2x2+1Zp=5 less 9 back for the Zero pocket=4+1=[5]P
7-1/3-L=2/4=2x2+1Zp=9 (From the time You lose you add the target to the lost bets to get a new target)(see that 2/4=2x2+1ZP=9)you add these up2/{ 4=2x2+1Zp} =9
29-3/1-W=2/9=5x5+1Zp=20 less 15 back=5
19-2/3-L
9-1/2-L
7-1/2-W=2/5=3x3+1Zp=12 less 9 back=3 from target of 4=1+5=[6]P
36-3/1-L
17-2/3-L
12-1/2-L=2/4=2x2+1ZP=9
11-1/2-W=2/9=5x5+1Zp=20 less 15 back=5
35-3/1-L
17-2/3-L
6-1/2-L=2/5=3x3+1Zp=12
(1)-1/2-W=2/12=6x6+1Zp=25 less 27 back=2+4 target=6+6=[12]P
29-3/1-L
13-2/3-L
22-2/3-W=2/4=2x2+1Zp=5 less 6 back=1+12=[13]P
30-3/2-W
7-1/3-L
12-1/3-W
4-1/3-W
13-2/1-L
20-2/1-W
9-1/2-W
27-3/1-L
8-1/3-W
24-2/1-L
16-2/1-W
10-1/2-W
21-2/1-W
35-3/2-L
32-3/2-W
(2)-1/3-L
16-2/1-L
6-1/2-W=2/4=2x2+1Zp=5 less 6 back=1+13=[14]P
26-3/1-L
30-3/1-W
34-3/1-W
16-2/3-L
34-3/2-W
24-2/3-W
4-1/2-L
11-1/2-W
16-2/1-W
10-1/2-W
Well that's it.
Its not perfect.....But what is ??
At the very least it will help identify the patterns in an easier way.
And then you can move onto other patterns ... one at a time maybe.
Some will find this just right for them & Love it.
I think My Friend Joker who regularly sends me PM's asking about the health of both My Wife & Myself will like it.
Others will find it too boring or the bets too high.
To Rubberman.
Good on You G for the inspiration for me to put this forward Mate
Lanky
Hi Lanky
I used to play after the first L formed but found the progression a bit too steep if it ever climbed to the LLLL situation.
I remember in an earlier thread by TwoCatSam that he started betting when I was stopping because I used to bet every spin so that I cashed in on all the nolinksww streaks whereas he tended to bet once he spotted the LL. e.g. nolinkswLnolinksLL now he would bet. This is now what I do and forget about all the strings of nolinksnolinksww's. It's certainly safer to wait for the LL and then bet reasonably big for one or two progressions.
Each of my sessions usually lasts until I've made $1,000 or I stop when I've lost $500. Whenever I get a chance to play continuosly for a few days I bet two sessions a day. Normally I win 8 out of 10 sessions so that's a loss of $1,000 but a gain of $8,000. So $7,000 is not too bad!
Kind regards
I always like visiting this particular Forum. You guys are great!
Steve
Always nice to hear about winners Steve. I'm very happy the Lw concept is working for you.
@status
Member bobbybobby of this forum relies on roulette to make his living.
Just letting you know.
Best regards.
Steve
Congrats Mate On the way You play them.
($7000 is not bad ) << Lmao>>Steve that is wonderful mate.
I hope you continue to win My Friend.
Your Friend
Lanky
Hi Lanky
I could never have done it without the help of people on this Forum. If you read through all the threads and discard those that have no real substance the answer is right there.
I had to combine at least three approaches before I was able to complete my strategy.
The greatest was Victor alerting me to the nolinksLL phenomena. He's a genius as well as being a great guy.
Kind regards
Steve
Hi Steve
Yes Mate You are Right Cobber.
Victor is a Genius & a Great Guy as well....
He Is The Master No doubt about That mate.We all Owe Victor a great Debt.
Now Steve
I am very curious as to how you bet them as You say you stop after Loseing $500
because thats a funny Figure that I can't come to terms with in My head.
Especially since you said this
QuoteIt's certainly safer to wait for the LL and then bet reasonably big for one or two progressions.
If you progress them as a 1x1 & 2x2 Like I do You are still down $600
The only solution that I can see is that you bet $100 x 100 & on a loss you bet $150 x $150.
Would I be right in assuming thats right Mate ??
Because if that lost You would be down the $500 that you mentioned.
But then again if it won you would still be down $50.
Please tell us your staking Plan mate we all might learn something from it.I know I will.
Your Friend
Lanky
Hi Lanky
You're quite right. It's normally $600 if I stay away from zero insurance bets etc. Most of the time I quit as soon as I have lost with that second progression, or the dreaded LLLL. Doesn't often happen, but it certainly bites you when it does.
What I tell most people, who ask, is that it's best to have a halfway STOP point when losing otherwise you'll lose your Bank Roll with a bad run. It just depends on what profit target you set for each session. And yet oddly enough I always take 3 times what I want to win, so I go with $3,000 even though I stop when I'm half-way down my profit target. If you keep going it's too hard to pull back with the other winning sessions.
It's probably a lack of nerves thing. I try to bet with confidence. Earlier in my career I found that with my other 'bought' strategies, I could never feel confident that the odds were with me and it affected my money management. You have to have complete confidence in your strategy otherwise it will fall apart if you haven't got nerves of steel when placing those larger bets!!!
P.S. A friend of mine uses a very aggressive progression: $5, $25, $100. He feels that with the bigger the risk he deserves a bigger reward!!!
Kind regards
Steve
Hi Steve
Thanks for Your Prompt reply Buddy.
Yes Mate I thought you meant $600 Loss,That makes sense.
Mate I understand the Taking more then you need.
I do That Its a Psychological battle that I win Even If I lose...
I will still walk out of the casino with plenty of Money In my Pocket & my confidence in tact and Knowing that I have the guts to do it which the Casino could not get off me even on a losing session.
Yes Your Friend Andy I remember from our previous talks/Posts on the Old Forum.
One Last Thing Mate
Are you Playing the LLw......LLLw
On the LD & LC =Last two Dozens & Columns to come Like I do ??
Or are you one the JD & the JC Or The VLS March ???
Thanks Steve
Your Friend
Lanky
Hi Lanky
Andy tends to run with whatever is trending at the time. If it's zigzagging across the columns that what he does until he strikes a double in one column then he changes and follows the last two columns spun until it zigzags again. It's amazing how much he wins.
Even when we play the same table we both come out winning with opposite approaches!
I tend to bet against the history of columns and dozens repeating but I wait for an LL situation before entering the fight! It's a strange strategy where your odds increase every time you lose!
Kind regards
Steve
What do you mean by rich?? in the future i wanna try to make my living by playing roulette, but i don't think it gonna make me rich, but if i am able to make at least €100+ a day than I'm happy and lets be honest everybody wants to be there own boss.
With roulette i can buy my freedom, that's my goal not trying to get rich.
Hi Roger
There is enough information on this forum to formulate a strategy that suits your style of play and your level of risk taking. Armed with YOUR strategy you should be able to make $100 a day easily.
A few questions so I know a little about you:
1) how long have you been playing?
2) how many strategies have you tried?
3) do you believe the live-wheel spins are totally random?
4) do you believe that there are unexplained phenomena within that randomness?
Some older members will see where I'm going with this (I hope).
Nothing personal Roger - I'm a friendly guy who wants to help.
Kind regards
Steve
QuoteHi Roger
There is enough information on this forum to formulate a strategy that suits your style of play and your level of risk taking. Armed with YOUR strategy you should be able to make $100 a day easily.
A few questions so I know a little about you:
1) how long have you been playing?
2) how many strategies have you tried?
3) do you believe the live-wheel spins are totally random?
4) do you believe that there are unexplained phenomena within that randomness?
Some older members will see where I'm going with this (I hope).
Nothing personal Roger - I'm a friendly guy who wants to help.
Kind regards
Steve
No prob to answer your questions Steve.
1. almost 1,5 years a think
2. a lot corners, dozens, lw, streets/lines, Attila.
3. yes
4. yes, mabey it sounds strange. But hitting for 6/7 spins in the same sector ?? i think its strange but you can use it to your advance.
Thanks to this forum a learnt a lot, if a was playing the way i used to, i was properly selling my car and house. [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=grin.gif] ;)
Hi Roger thanks for the honest answers.
It's important that you have tried roulette with a number of strategies so you know that many strategies will work in the short term but crash later on when the anomalies occur. Even though the game is totally random those anomalies do surface. It's a very good strategy that can accommodate them or overcome them. Not many achieve this.
To encounter those frustrations is a great lesson to learn while you are still experimenting with your own ideas. You gain an insight into how the game can twist and turn.
It is also important to belong to a supportive Forum where you can gather pieces of information in order to formulate your own style of play - one that you are comfortable with.
Keep reading the other threads and see where it leads you.
Kind regards
Steve
QuoteThere have been some commented at the "Forumsphere".
Christian Kaisan:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204376795
And also google the Ritz Team...
The aim of several players here is not to "get rich" mate. Rather, the largest concern is to "skin the sheep" consistently. Myself included in the "little by little" makes it bandwagon :) Hopefully others can talk for themselves on their experiences.
Here Lanky, Kimo, Gamlet, Ronjo... Herb... and I'm sure others can confirm making something at the table consistently but not Buying the private island. YET! 8-)
Hi Vic,
Thats right on a personal experience viewpoint my advice would be not to give up your day job to be a full time pro-roulette player,if you are winning consistently rather use roulette as a supplement to your present earnings,its not a very pleasant place to be with the shoving ,rude comments from people who have consumed alchohol,smoke in your face,and not to mention the stress when you are on a losing streak,but I rub shoulders with full time pros and they only need that modest earning which is only a few hundred bucks to survive each day,I know one roulette/blackjack player who lives only in casino hotels and has a nack of getting complimentry live in and food bills payed by the casino and is at the tables all and everyday I dont think I would want his life, a pro-roulette player is not as glamerous as people make it out to be.No I dont know a player personally who has got stinking rich from roulette,yes I have seen nice cars and boats bought from playing roulette and blackjack.Then you probably have teams of bias and VB players who travel the world and milk certain wheels for big cash until the casinos catch on and then move on.I would never rely only on Roulette or blackjack for that matter as a source of an income.
Ronjo.
Ronjo.
yes, one can get rich at roulette if you slowly build your bankroll, get your days profit locked away then go for the jugulare.
everthing is a gamble you just got to know when to go for it.
make sure your method of play is rock solid first. [smiley=beer.gif]
Quotemake sure your method of play is rock solid first.
And Ray hit the nail in the head.
You could be the most willing, motivated and dedicated person, but in roulette you are only as good as your system/strategy + your application of it.
There are several ways of facing the game:
- Large bankroll hoping to never lose.
- Small bankroll hoping to make a big win which covers the expected losses.
- Medium-size bankroll, enough to cover +90% of the sessions, yet the odd loser is overcome by the winning average.
It is up to each one to pick a strategy which suits the personal Style, but whatever the strategy, you are only as good as it is. (Taking for granted the human factor is mastered; i.e. perfect application, no human errors).
Hi Victor and All
I agree with all you've said but.......
I think the word 'manipulation' also comes into the equation of winning. If you employ Victor's strategy of waiting for the wwL or wwLL to occur before entering the fray then you have manipulated the odds in favour of the player. Slow and steady wins the race.
While I don't make a fortune with roulette, I do make enough to travel overseas.
I truly believe you can make money at roulette.
Cheers
Steve
hi to everyone
answering to the question above , I wish to answer
YES
++
to the other questions :
1) how long have you been playing?
2) how many strategies have you tried?
3) do you believe the live-wheel spins are totally random?
4) do you believe that there are unexplained phenomena within that randomness?
1) quite ten years
2) 2 of our own systems
3) no
Hazard is totally structurated
4) no, at this point
Hazard is logical, not mathematical , nor physical , nor obviously statistical
greetings
Cessna, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the forum.
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
8-) [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
con mucho gusto, VLS
:D
hello forum.
thank you all for your answers.
I can see that you are kind and I'd like to know some impressions for this system nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1207202243/
I know some of you, are already there and maybe you read my post, but I haven't to many answers.
The system is quite simple and you need only 4 winning hands to have +72 per day.
I really like to know your opinions.
thank you