This is a simple system based on repeating numbers. It is a progressive system so it may not be for everyone. The only way you can lose with this system is if one of the first 8 numbers does not repeat in 24 spins. Now, you may not always be able to bet, but when you can, I think you have a great chance of winning this bet.
System Rules
1. You must track 8 spins. In order to be able to use these spins for this system, there must be no repeaters in those 8 spins. (In other words, 8 unique numbers).
2. You then wait for 4 more spins, again, none of these can be repeaters. You must now have a total of 12 spins with no repeaters.
3. You will now bet the first 8 numbers you tracked with this 12 step progression: 1,1,1,1,2,2,3,5,5,7,9,12.
So far, and I know it's early, I have been having good results. It takes patience, because it is not always easy to get 12 numbers with no repeater. If you are tracking and you encounter a repeater, stop. Begin again and the next spin will be your first spin to track. Basically, you need a string of 12 unique numbers to bet. You will only lose if 24 unique numbers spin up in a row. If you lose the progression, you will lose 389 units (ouch!). Therefore, I recommend playing with no larger than $.25 units. A bankroll of 800 units ($200.00) is recommended. It will be a larger or smaller amount of money depending on which size unit you choose.
I think I may lower the number of unique numbers needed to 8 from 12. In my testing, I am noticing that I only get to bet once every 70 spins on average. I always win the bet, but still, it would be tough to sit for 70 spins and not bet at the table. Although, I do believe patience to be the enemy of roulette!
I just completed a 400 spin test using actuals from Weisbaden. I only had about 5 or 6 betting opportunities, and won them all. I noticed that I very rarely had 12 numbers come without a repeat. If I had simply waited for 8 unique numbers, then flat bet them for 4 spins only, I think I would have done much better. If we can figure out a better way to exploit the repeats, we will have a good system here. Please take a look at the test results (attached) and post your ideas on how to exploit these repeaters. I am open to any suggestion here.
Good job Rpro :)
I love ur systems :thumbsup:
Hey RPRO
i think if we find away to code or put into sotfware form FASTER we exploit these systems better on the long run! i see most of your sytems rpro are good in the long run, if we can test in animation mode or automated we can get further along engineering these sytems! i think thats the next step!
Quote from: ckb18 on May 15, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Hey RPRO
I think if we find away to code or put into sotfware form FASTER we exploit these systems better on the long run! I see most of your sytems rpro are good in the long run, if we can test in animation mode or automated we can get further along engineering these sytems! I think thats the next step!
Thank you. I just completed another test with 105 spins from Weisbaden and this time I waited for 8 unique numbers, and then bet them using the progression. It works much better. Of course, there is more risk involved. 12 unique numbers without a repeat hardly ever comes up but 8 does more often.
The stats of my test:
Spins-105
Betting Opportunities-5
Won-5/5
Profit-116 units.
-Progression made it to 8th stage once.
Quote from: ckb18 on May 15, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Hey RPRO
I think if we find away to code or put into sotfware form FASTER we exploit these systems better on the long run! I see most of your sytems rpro are good in the long run, if we can test in animation mode or automated we can get further along engineering these sytems! I think thats the next step!
Show me way, master!
Quote from: RPro75 on May 15, 2009, 09:13:43 PM
Thank you. I just completed another test with 105 spins from Weisbaden and this time I waited for 8 unique numbers, and then bet them using the progression. It works much better. Of course, there is more risk involved. 12 unique numbers without a repeat hardly ever comes up but 8 does more often.
The stats of my test:
Spins-105
Betting Opportunities-5
Won-5/5
Profit-116 units.
-Progression made it to 8th stage once.
Hmm, so have you tried flat betting 8 #'s for 4 spins yet? That sounded interesting - but if your average win is on bet 5 I guess that idea would be out huh? If you want I can take a stab at trying the flat betting method - just don't want to get too much on my plate this weekend. I've still got some testing to do on RJ's 10 spin system, at the same time I want to get the 4 spins to win down. Love all the creative juices flowing today!
ok RPRO
i have been testing a sytem of mine and it looks very promising! but it is hard to play it, meaning it will take along time chips on and chips off, well when you play it you'll understand what i mean! but out of 2000 spins it never failed, it never broke a progression. i will tell you the system if you want lol ya i know, thats why i am going to give it to you! so you can post it! i barely have time to type this out, i work from home and i am always busy, but i cant get away from this dam forum lol
ckb, i would love to hear about ur system :)
Hey Rpro, Thanks for another great system! Since I'm on an off session from playing online, I'm currently giving this system a go. I'll let know how it goes when I'm finished.
@Ckb - I too would love to hear about your new system!
Here is the PDF for download.
Sounds like a promising system. I may try it but I can't get to a casino that has roulette for a few weeks.
Ron.
And what you do if the 4 from the 12 unique numbers repeat and not the 8 you bet?
Hermes
Quote from: hermes on May 16, 2009, 12:32:36 AM
And what you do if the 4 from the 12 unique numbers repeat and not the 8 you bet?
Hermes
Well, I have changed it to wait for only 8 unique numbers and then bet (see PDF file) because I noticed that when you wait for 12 unique numbers , it can sometimes take 70+ spins to occur. Also, I noticed from some of my tests that the majority of the time, the repeater comes from the 8-12 number, so by tracking only 8 numbers and betting, you are capturing that win. The way I was playing before, if the repeater came from one of those 4 numbers, I just kept playing through the progression and soon enough a number would repeat from the first 8, so it really wasn't a problem. I suppose you could tweak it to fit your style though. Hope that helps Hermes.
Here is a test using actuals from Weisbaden that you can look at where I waited for 8 unique numbers and then bet.
I just had my first test where the progression busted. It did hit on the 13th stage though. All in all, not bad results. I think this is a solid system and with some tweaking and new ideas, we will have a winner here.
Here is a really great way to play this:
1. Track spins until you get 12 unique numbers. If a number repeats, just count it once, you are looking for 12 different numbers.
2. After you get your 12 numbers, bet them for four spins only using this progression: 1,1,2,3.
This is just another variation to play repeats but this one seems a little safer (the other was safe too, but this is better).
Ok. I do not know if this was just luck, but I played only 0.1 units and I played 6 games, real money.
I was up from 228 units to 235 units. That is a profit a 7 units (playing only 0.1 units) for six games. This session was great. :dance1:
I think this can be a good system.
Hi RPro,
What is your win rate with this system. I played another 3 quick sessions with single units. Just for fun with money I can afford to lose (not really, but it is not bread money ::) ) Al three sessions won within in spin (no progression). I went up from 235 units to 311. That is very impressive.
If the progression bust it would mean a total loss of 84 units. In three games I made 76 units.
I won't move the above posts to the Naysayers lounge. Everyone has a tight to their opinion. I have far many more supportive posts anyway. There will always be jealous haters in the world. For the record Iboba and Boo-Ray, I do not hate you or hold any ill will toward you. I don't have to explain what I do to anybody, but I will give you some insight. I play roulette because I love the game and it is my hobby. I invent systems because as my systems do work, they also fail because as we know they are not the holy grail. It is what I enjoy doing. I spend a lot of time in the forum because I was recently laid off and it's how I spend some time while waiting for job interviews. I like to invent systems and I love to help others. If you don't like me or my posts, the answer is simple-don't read them. I have aplogized to everyone a few times and again, if I have offended you, I am sorry. Also, I am a moderator because Victor has confidence and respect for me and that is all that is necessary. Finally, do not be so naive as to think that I am the reason for the so-called "chaos" that happens here from time to time. As there are many members here, everyone in their own way sometimes contributes to "chaos", maybe without even knowing it. I will leave your posts here in this thread this time, but in the future, I respectfully request that you post in the proper threads. This thread is a thread for comments, questions, and criticisms about my Repeater System. I do not "suppose" to be yout "professor", I have never said that you should use any systems that I have posted. They are simply here for reference and all to see, and if you like them, you are most welcome to them, if not, that's OK too. Best of luck to both of you and kindest regards.
RPro
Quote from: RPro75 on May 16, 2009, 02:02:30 AM
Here is a really great way to play this:
1. Track spins until you get 12 unique numbers. If a number repeats, just count it once, you are looking for 12 different numbers.
2. After you get your 12 numbers, bet them for four spins only using this progression: 1,1,2,3.
This is just another variation to play repeats but this one seems a little safer (the other was safe too, but this is better).
This is working extremely well. The good thing about this system is that on a progression bust you only lose 84 units. It needs to win roughly 4 progressions for every one loss to remain in profit.
i love this system RPRO, its working for me!!! 10 sessions won and 3 losses, this is going to look good in the long hall!!! AND FOR ALL YOU NEGATIVE PEOPLE..............GET OUT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT................... you don't have waste space and time here on the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is for ROULLETE SYSTEM MAKERS AND PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT LOVE THE GAME PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ckb18 on May 16, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I love this system RPRO, its working for me!!! 10 sessions won and 3 losses, this is going to look good in the long hall!!! AND FOR ALL YOU NEGATIVE PEOPLE..............GET OUT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT................... you don't have waste space and time here on the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is for roulette SYSTEM MAKERS AND PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT LOVE THE GAME PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great!! Yes, I have gotten up over $50 units every single test I played! I have used actuals for every test. It doesn't win every progression, but you need to win 4-5 for every one loss and it definitely does that. It usually takes me on average 100-150 spins to be up 50 units. If I play with $1 units, I can make my $50 per day easily. The beauty is that on a busted progression, it's only 84 units lost as opposed to some systems where you can lose over 500 units in a busted progression. I have instituted another failsafe also but you don't need to do this. If while you are tracking for your 12 numbers, there are 3 repeats, stop and track another 12. That seems to lessen the progression loss even more.
Quote from: ckb18 on May 16, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I love this system RPRO, its working for me!!! 10 sessions won and 3 losses, this is going to look good in the long hall!!! AND FOR ALL YOU NEGATIVE PEOPLE..............GET OUT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT................... you don't have waste space and time here on the forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is for roulette SYSTEM MAKERS AND PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT LOVE THE GAME PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Careful with the praise, they'll accuse you of being me!!! :lol:
Quote from: Boo_Ray on May 16, 2009, 08:40:38 AM
Winning 7 units in 6games is nothing special and it is nothing that would tell you that this system might work..
It's important to note that the poster stated that the 7 units won was in .10 increments. In actuality, I think the poster meant that it produced 700 units won in 6 games for a total of a $7 profit. I may be wrong though, just a thought.
QuoteIt's important to note that the poster stated that the 7 units won was in .10 increments. In actuality, I think the poster meant that it produced 700 units won in 6 games for a total of a $7 profit. I may be wrong though, just a thought.
Yes, RPro, you are correct. When I typed I did not think that some would be so negative. I played 0.10 units and finally won $7 in only 6 games. I actually think it is quite great to win $7 while playing 0.10 units. If I played $1 units it would have been $70.
Quote from: babs on May 16, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
Yes, RPro, you are correct. When I typed I did not think that some would be so negative. I played 0.10 units and finally won $7 in only 6 games. I actually think it is quite great to win $7 while playing 0.10 units. If I played $1 units it would have been $70.
It's OK, any win is positive. It's not your fault and I'm sorry you were attacked for supporting me with a positive post.
I played another four games and my BR went up from $311 to $359.
Quote from: babs on May 16, 2009, 03:56:09 PM
I played another four games and my BR went up from $311 to $359.
Great. I'm very happy it's working well for you. I hope it keeps up. Remember to report losses as well so we can get a good idea how it fares long term.
QuoteRemember to report losses as well so we can get a good idea how it fares long term.
Will do
still, none of the questions were answered.. why?
Why dont you quote me?(answer me), and answer that instead of just quoting "I LOVE RPro"
QuoteOMG 76 units.. Impresive!!! sure must be "holy grail"!!
Surely not. But at this moment this method is quite effective. I am not sure what you have against RPro, but since I am quite new to this forum I probably missed something. I learned a lot from him, and I am still learning from him. I have tried quite a lot of systems in my life. All crashed. So I have no illusion of finding the grail, but then again, it is not impossible to find a profitable system.
At this moment I have played RPro's system for just over 16 games. My BR went up from 228 to 407. A few of these games were played with only $0.1 instead of $1 units.
This system will probably also tank at some stage, but until then I am enjoying increasing my BR. :dance1:
Here is the PDF for the new and improved system which I call the 12/4 Roulette Repeater System. Enjoy and please do test and let the forum know how you are faring.
I have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed. I have only experienced one small loss with the 12/4 Repeater System. The system allows for two repeats in your 12 number tracking stage, and then once you get your 12 numbers there is a 4 progression betting stage (which could easily be lengthened to 6 or 8 stages but it is not necessary). It breaks down like this: The tracking stage allows for no less than 10 unique numbers in 12 spins(remember if you have 3 repeats in this stage you must start over). You would then have to have 4 more unique numbers to lose the betting stage. That means that you would have to have 14-16 different numbers show in 16 spins to lose the cycle. You could extend the progression to 6 stages but I like to keep it at 4 so if you do blow it, you can easily recover and the odds are still really good. In terms of a 37 spin cycle, you would need 31-37 different numbers to show to lose overall. We know that on average 24-28 numbers show in 37 spins. I think that is why it is working so well. Can 16 different numbers show in 16 spins? Of course. Does it happen very often? Not from what I'm seeing.
Test with actuals from Weisbaden
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 16 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
15 22 Bet 12 36 -12 24 412 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
16 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
17 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
18 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
19 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
20 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
21 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
22 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
23 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
24 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
25 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
26 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
27 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
28 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
29 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
30 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
31 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
32 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
33 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
34 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
35 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
36 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
37 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
38 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
39 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
40 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
41 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 400 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
42 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
43 21 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 364 2 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
44 3 Bet 36 108 -36 72 436 3 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
45 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
46 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
47 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
48 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
49 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
50 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
51 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
52 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
53 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
54 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
55 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
56 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
57 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
58 31 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 424 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
59 15 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 412 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
60 33 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 388 2 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
61 24 Bet 36 108 -36 72 460 3 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
62 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
63 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
64 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
65 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
66 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
67 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
68 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
69 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
70 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
71 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
72 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
73 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
74 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
75 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
76 8 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 448 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
77 35 Bet 12 36 -12 24 472 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
78 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
79 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
80 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
81 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
82 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
83 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
84 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
85 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
86 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
87 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
88 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
89 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
90 19 Bet 12 36 -12 24 496 1 : 5,7,16,19,21,22,23,25,27,28,29,32
91 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
92 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
93 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
94 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
95 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
96 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
97 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
98 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
99 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
100 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
101 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
102 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
103 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
104 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
105 34 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 484 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
106 9 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 472 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
107 26 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 448 2 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
108 8 Bet 36 108 -36 72 520 3 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
+120 units in 108 spins
QuoteI have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed.
Played four quick games. First game was a win (but I played $2 units). Got a bit scared after that since my BR is not very high and I realized that playing $2 chips could really hurt my BR if I do hit a loss. Good thing I did as my second game busted the progression. I retracked, and my third game and fourth game also won. I stopped there for now.
With four games, 3 wins one loss, I still profited $24 in the end. BR now at $431. I probably would have a smallish loss if I did not play $2 chips with my first game.
Certainly not the holy grail, but I think this system could win more than it loses. I must say that I would probably, in future, be more cautious and only play if I have no more than 1 repeat during tracking. RPro, you suggest to stop when you hit 3 repeats, but in future I will start retracking if I hit two repeats. Probably unnecessary, but I think it is safer. I play online (I know.... but I have no choice :skull: ), but until now the system is quite stable.
RPro, what is the chances of having this tested in RXtreme? I only played a very small number of games, but I would like to see how this holds up over say 50,000 or 100,000 spins.
Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 03:05:57 AM
Played four quick games. First game was a win (but I played $2 units). Got a bit scared after that since my BR is not very high and I realized that playing $2 chips could really hurt my BR if I do hit a loss. Good thing I did as my second game busted the progression. I retracked, and my third game and fourth game also won. I stopped there for now.
With four games, 3 wins one loss, I still profited $24 in the end. BR now at $431. I probably would have a smallish loss if I did not play $2 chips with my first game.
Certainly not the holy grail, but I think this system could win more than it loses. I must say that I would probably, in future, be more cautious and only play if I have no more than 1 repeat during tracking. RPro, you suggest to stop when you hit 3 repeats, but in future I will start retracking if I hit two repeats. Probably unnecessary, but I think it is safer. I play online (I know.... but I have no choice :skull: ), but until now the system is quite stable.
It's absolutely not the holy grail, but it is a real strong system. re-tracking after 2 losses is a good idea. The beauty of this system is that you can modify it to fit your needs. If you play with smaller units, it may be wise to extend the progression to 6 stages. I noticed that if you were to re-track after 2 repeats, you may have a lot fewer betting opportunities. As they say, "Different strokes for different folks". My aim is $50 per day and if I'm correct, you have made more than that today with it, right? Also, I want to thank you for all of your input today. I wish you continued good luck with this system.
Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 03:09:08 AM
RPro, what is the chances of having this tested in RXtreme? I only played a very small number of games, but I would like to see how this holds up over say 50,000 or 100,000 spins.
I'd love to have it coded. I think it will tank in the end as I have not known a system that doesn't to exist (That would be the Grail!). If we could get someone to code it for us, we'd be in business.
Quote from: RPro75 on May 17, 2009, 02:51:06 AM
I have to say that I think this is one fo the strongest systems I have developed. I have only experienced one small loss with the 12/4 Repeater System. The system allows for two repeats in your 12 number tracking stage, and then once you get your 12 numbers there is a 4 progression betting stage (which could easily be lengthened to 6 or 8 stages but it is not necessary). It breaks down like this: The tracking stage allows for no less than 10 unique numbers in 12 spins(remember if you have 3 repeats in this stage you must start over). You would then have to have 4 more unique numbers to lose the betting stage. That means that you would have to have 14-16 different numbers show in 16 spins to lose the cycle. You could extend the progression to 6 stages but I like to keep it at 4 so if you do blow it, you can easily recover and the odds are still really good. In terms of a 37 spin cycle, you would need 31-37 different numbers to show to lose overall. We know that on average 24-28 numbers show in 37 spins. I think that is why it is working so well. Can 16 different numbers show in 16 spins? Of course. Does it happen very often? Not from what I'm seeing.
Test with actuals from Weisbaden
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
13 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
14 16 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
15 22 Bet 12 36 -12 24 412 1 : 2,3,8,11,17,21,22,23,25,28,29,0
16 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
17 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
18 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
19 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
20 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
21 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
22 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
23 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
24 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
25 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
26 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
27 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
28 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
29 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
30 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
31 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
32 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
33 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
34 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
35 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
36 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
37 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
38 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
39 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
40 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
41 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 400 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
42 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 388 1 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
43 21 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 364 2 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
44 3 Bet 36 108 -36 72 436 3 : 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,20,28,29,30,31
45 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
46 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
47 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
48 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
49 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
50 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
51 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
52 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
53 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
54 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
55 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
56 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
57 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
58 31 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 424 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
59 15 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 412 1 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
60 33 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 388 2 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
61 24 Bet 36 108 -36 72 460 3 : 1,2,8,9,16,18,20,22,24,29,30,0
62 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
63 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
64 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
65 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
66 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
67 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
68 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
69 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
70 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
71 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
72 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
73 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
74 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
75 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 460
76 8 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 448 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
77 35 Bet 12 36 -12 24 472 1 : 1,10,11,14,15,17,21,22,30,32,35,36
78 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
79 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
80 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
81 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
82 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
83 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
84 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
85 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
86 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
87 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
88 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
89 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 472
90 19 Bet 12 36 -12 24 496 1 : 5,7,16,19,21,22,23,25,27,28,29,32
91 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
92 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
93 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
94 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
95 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
96 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
97 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
98 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
99 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
100 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
101 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
102 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
103 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
104 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 496
105 34 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 484 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
106 9 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 472 1 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
107 26 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 448 2 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
108 8 Bet 36 108 -36 72 520 3 : 1,2,8,12,14,17,18,19,25,27,31,32
+120 units in 108 spins
Actually, after I thought about this a bit, the stats may not be quite right because you could have a number repeat
after you start betting, which would lower the unique number/spins ratio. It doesn't happen very often but nevertheless, it happens. Just wanted to put that out there. So far, it hasn't seemed to affect my tests negatively.
Played another six games. Lost two, won four. BR now at 563. From yesterday my bankroll lifted from 235 to 563. That is a profit of 328 from yesterday. Not all games were winners. Out of about 14 games, with real money, (if I remember correctly) about 4 were losers.
I have tested a lot of systems, but this one give me quite some confidence.
Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
Played another six games. Lost two, won four. BR now at 563. From yesterday my bankroll lifted from 235 to 563. That is a profit of 328 from yesterday. Not all games were winners. Out of about 14 games, with real money, (if I remember correctly) about 4 were losers.
I have tested a lot of systems, but this one give me quite some confidence.
Hey babs, nice to hear you're having success. May I ask if you are playing the 12/4 repeater system or the original one that RPro posted? Also, after a win do you re-track (ie do you just add the newest spin, look at the last 12 and if you have a betting op do you bet again right there?) or do you start tracking the next 12 spins then bet?
Thanks!
QuoteHey babs, nice to hear you're having success.
Thanks, not sure if it will last. A lot of promising systems went belly up just when I thought it was going very well. But I must say, this one is really looking good at this point.
QuoteMay I ask if you are playing the 12/4 repeater system or the original one that RPro posted?
I play the 12/4 repeater. I did change my progression, as per RPro's advice, in the last few games: 1 2 3 4
QuoteAlso, after a win do you re-track (ie do you just add the newest spin, look at the last 12 and if you have a betting op do you bet again right there?)
I start tracking another 12 spins before betting again. Not sure which is the best method to do. I wonder if RPro could help us here. In some cases I had the feeling that simply looking at the previous spins and looking for 12 numbers could be profitable.
One area where I do differ a bit from RPro is he allows for 2 repeats within 12 numbers (when 3 repeats appears he retracks). I however prefer to play it safer. If I get 2 repeats I retrack 12 numbers. Also, I play online, so I switch tables regularly. Please try this system, but PLEASE PLEASE, do not use real money until you played it with some play money and gained some confidence in this system. I have tried a lot of systems that appeared great (and even made profit for other) and lost money... never play a system before testing it for yourself.
Thanks for the response babs! So basically you play the 12/4, allowing 1 repeat within 12 spins, but if 2 repeats occur you then scrap the numbers and start tracking again from the next spin for the next 12 spins?
I'm going to give this a shot, and don't worry not for real. I usually start my testing with RX first using both randoms & imported actuals.
Had a bad session. Lost 4 out of 5 games. O well. We are playing Roulette :blink:
Quote from: babs on May 17, 2009, 03:30:19 PM
Had a bad session. Lost 4 out of 5 games. O well. We are playing Roulette :blink:
Sorry Babs, better luck next time. I've had one bad session also. :(
I keep testing and getting decent results, although this last test was a real grind. I used a 313 actual spin cycle from Weisbaden and ended up +60. I did something a little different this time, though. All of the concept rules were the same, but I changed the progression from 1,1,2,3 to 1,2,3,4, and after a loss, I doubled my bets for one game. I haven't had 2 losses back to back yet, so I thought that would be a good way of recovering from a loss. If I had a loss, I bet 2,4,6,8 for one game only, following the loss. I included the file as an attachment, since it is rather long.
This is my most recent test using actuals and fun money from Dublin Bet auto roulette. I don't mean to keep posting positive results, and I certainly don't want to mislead. Babs and I have both had a couple of losing sessions, but this system is performing extraordinarily well.
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 500
1 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
2 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
3 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
4 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
5 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
6 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
7 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
8 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
9 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
10 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
11 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
12 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
13 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
14 13 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 488 1 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
15 23 Bet 24 72 -24 48 536 2 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
16 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
17 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
19 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
20 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
21 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
22 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
23 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
24 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
25 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
26 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
27 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
28 36 Bet 12 36 -12 24 560 1 : 2,3,6,7,8,10,13,22,23,34,35,36
29 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
30 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
31 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
32 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
33 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
34 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
35 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
36 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
37 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
38 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
39 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
40 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
41 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
42 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
43 12 Bet 12 36 -12 24 584 1 : 2,3,6,7,12,17,24,25,26,28,29,33
44 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
45 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
46 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
48 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
49 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
50 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
51 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
52 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
53 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
54 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
57 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
58 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
59 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
60 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
61 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
63 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
64 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
65 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
66 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
67 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
68 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
69 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
70 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
71 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
72 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
73 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
74 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
75 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
76 1 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 572 1 : 2,4,8,10,13,22,23,26,27,28,32,35
77 4 Bet 24 72 -24 48 620 2 : 2,4,8,10,13,22,23,26,27,28,32,35
78 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
79 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
80 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
81 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
82 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
83 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
84 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
85 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
86 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
87 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
88 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
89 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
90 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
91 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
92 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
93 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
94 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
95 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
96 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
97 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
98 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
99 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
100 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
101 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
102 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
103 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
104 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
105 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
106 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
107 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
108 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
109 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
110 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
111 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
112 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
113 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
114 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
115 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
116 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
117 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
118 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
119 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
120 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
121 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
122 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
123 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
124 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
125 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
126 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
127 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
128 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
129 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
130 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
131 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
132 26 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 608 1 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
133 16 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 584 2 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
134 5 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 548 3 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
135 2 Bet 48 144 -48 96 644 4 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
136 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
137 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
138 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
139 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
140 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
141 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
142 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
143 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
144 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
145 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
146 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
147 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
148 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 644
149 36 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 632 1 : 1,2,3,5,11,19,23,24,26,27,28,33
150 24 Bet 24 72 -24 48 680 2 : 1,2,3,5,11,19,23,24,26,27,28,33
+180 units in 150 spins
I implore other members to test this, I am anxious to hear of others results. :yes:
I've decided that the best way to see if this system has any merit is to conduct a large spin test. I have downloaded thousands of actuals in files from Weisbaden and I am going to keep a running total as I go through all the files of actuals testing on RX. At the end, I will post the files in one big attachment for viewing. As the testing is going on, I will post my bankroll and what spin I am on from time to time. I am thinking of testing for at least 10,000 spins. I have already begun, so here is what the posts will look like until I am finished.
Running Test of 12/4 Repeater System
Beginning Bankroll - 500 units
Current Bankroll - 861 units
Total Spins - 611
Profit/Loss (+/-) to this point - +361
QuoteI've decided that the best way to see if this system has any merit is to conduct a large spin test. I have downloaded thousands of actuals in files from Weisbaden and I am going to keep a running total as I go through all the files of actuals testing on RX. At the end, I will post the files in one big attachment for viewing. As the testing is going on, I will post my bankroll and what spin I am on from time to time. I am thinking of testing for at least 10,000 spins. I have already begun, so here is what the posts will look like until I am finished.
Yes, that would be good.
RPro75,
I wrote your system in RX, but I'm having differents results, I think I made some mistake, but I could not identify. Here is the result that I've got from the last spin list posted by you:
Quote
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 500
1 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
2 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
3 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
4 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
5 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
6 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
7 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
8 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
9 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
10 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
11 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
12 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
13 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
14 13 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 488 1 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
15 23 Bet 12 36 -12 24 512 1 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
16 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
17 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
19 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
20 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
21 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
22 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
23 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
24 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
25 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
26 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
27 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
28 36 Bet 12 36 -12 24 536 1 : 2,3,6,7,8,10,13,22,23,34,35,36
29 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
30 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
31 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
32 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
33 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
34 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
35 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
36 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
37 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
38 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
39 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
40 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
41 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
42 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
43 12 Bet 12 36 -12 24 560 1 : 2,3,6,7,12,17,24,25,26,28,29,33
44 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
45 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
46 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
48 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
49 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
50 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
51 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
52 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
53 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
54 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
57 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
58 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
59 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
60 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
61 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
63 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
64 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
65 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
66 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
67 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
68 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
69 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
70 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
71 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
72 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
73 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
74 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
75 23 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 548 1 : 2,4,8,10,13,21,22,26,27,28,32,35
76 1 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 536 1 : 2,4,8,10,13,21,22,26,27,28,32,35
77 4 Bet 24 72 -24 48 584 2 : 2,4,8,10,13,21,22,26,27,28,32,35
78 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
79 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
80 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
81 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
82 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
83 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
84 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
85 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
86 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
87 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
88 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
89 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
90 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
91 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
92 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 584
93 1 Bet 12 36 -12 24 608 1 : 1,2,4,5,7,10,13,14,21,27,31,35
94 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
95 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
96 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
97 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
98 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
99 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
100 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
101 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
102 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
103 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
104 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
105 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
106 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
107 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 608
108 36 Bet 12 36 -12 24 632 1 : 1,6,7,10,11,13,14,17,24,31,35,36
109 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
110 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
111 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
112 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
113 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
114 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
115 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
116 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
117 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
118 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
119 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
120 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
121 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
122 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
123 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 632
124 25 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 620 1 : 1,2,8,12,20,21,22,24,28,29,35,36
125 10 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 608 1 : 1,2,8,12,20,21,22,24,28,29,35,36
126 11 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 584 2 : 1,2,8,12,20,21,22,24,28,29,35,36
127 7 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 548 3 : 1,2,8,12,20,21,22,24,28,29,35,36
128 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
129 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
130 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
131 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
132 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
133 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
134 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
135 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
136 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
137 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
138 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
139 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
140 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 548
141 3 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 536 1 : 1,2,5,7,16,17,22,23,26,27,30,33
142 28 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 524 1 : 1,2,5,7,16,17,22,23,26,27,30,33
143 11 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 500 2 : 1,2,5,7,16,17,22,23,26,27,30,33
144 19 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 464 3 : 1,2,5,7,16,17,22,23,26,27,30,33
145 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
146 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
147 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
148 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
149 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
150 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 464
Total: -36 u
How you can see, I've got -36 units, but you got +150 with the same spins. What is the problem?
Regards.
Quote from: RouletteBR on May 18, 2009, 11:19:44 AM
RPro75,
I wrote your system in RX, but I'm having differents results, I think I made some mistake, but I could not identify. Here is the result that I've got from the last spin list posted by you:
How you can see, I've got -36 units, but you got +150 with the same spins. What is the problem?
Regards.
Let me check it out. I recently started playing with this progression: 1,2,3,4. Also, I double bets for one game after a loss. I will put these spins in RX and see what happened and I'll get back to you. Thanks for testing and the input. I'll get right back to you.
Quote from: RPro75 on May 18, 2009, 11:58:34 AM
Let me check it out. I recently started playing with this progression: 1,2,3,4. Also, I double bets for one game after a loss. I will put these spins in RX and see what happened and I'll get back to you. Thanks for testing and the input. I'll get right back to you.
Ok RouletteBR, I have found the mistake. It seems to have been on your part. Let me explain what you did:
1. You bet on spin #43 which was correct. You tracked correctly after that until you reached spin #64. Number 21 had just repeated at spin #63 making it the 3rd repeat in that particular tracking sequence, so you had to scrap those numbers and start tracking again at spin #64. If you look at spins 64-74, you'll notice that you only tracked
11 numbers (2,26,10,13,35,4,8,32,22,27,28) instead of
12 and then started to bet at spin #75 with
11 numbers instead of
12. This threw your whole betting sequence off and caused you to incur losses which you may not have otherwise incurred (at least not in this particular test).
2. Notice also that I was betting the progression 1,2,3,4 while you were betting 1,1,2,3 (which is perfectly fine-it is a matter of the players choice which progression to use). I only mention it because it caused your total units to be lower than my initial test. I did use the progression 1,1,2,3 when mimicking your test.
Here is my test for you to compare:
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 500
1 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
2 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
3 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
4 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
5 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
6 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
7 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
8 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
9 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
10 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
11 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
12 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
13 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
14 13 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 488 1 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
15 23 Bet 12 36 -12 24 512 1 : 6,8,11,16,18,20,23,25,28,31,33,0
16 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
17 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
19 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
20 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
21 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
22 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
23 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
24 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
25 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
26 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
27 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 512
28 36 Bet 12 36 -12 24 536 1 : 2,3,6,7,8,10,13,22,23,34,35,36
29 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
30 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
31 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
32 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
33 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
34 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
35 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
36 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
37 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
38 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
39 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
40 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
41 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
42 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 536
43 12 Bet 12 36 -12 24 560 1 : 2,3,6,7,12,17,24,25,26,28,29,33
44 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
45 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
46 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
48 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
49 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
50 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
51 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
52 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
53 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
54 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
57 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
58 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
59 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
60 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
61 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
63 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
64 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
65 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
66 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
67 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
68 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
69 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
70 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
71 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
72 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
73 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
74 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
75 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560
76 1 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 548 1 : 2,4,8,10,13,22,23,26,27,28,32,35
77 4 Bet 12 36 -12 24 572 1 : 2,4,8,10,13,22,23,26,27,28,32,35
78 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
79 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
80 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
81 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
82 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
83 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
84 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
85 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
86 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
87 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
88 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
89 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
90 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 572
91 7 Bet 12 36 -12 24 596 1 : 1,2,4,5,7,10,13,15,21,27,31,35
92 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
93 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
94 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
95 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
96 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
97 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
98 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
99 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
100 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
101 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
102 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
103 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
104 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
105 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
106 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
107 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
108 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
109 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
110 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
111 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
112 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
113 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
114 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
115 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
116 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
117 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
118 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
119 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
120 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
121 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
122 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
123 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
124 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
125 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
126 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
127 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
128 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
129 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
130 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
131 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 596
132 26 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 584 1 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
133 16 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 572 1 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
134 5 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 548 2 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
135 2 Bet 36 108 -36 72 620 3 : 2,7,10,11,12,17,21,22,25,28,29,30
136 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
137 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
138 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
139 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
140 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
141 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
142 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
143 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
144 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
145 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
146 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
147 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
148 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 620
149 36 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 608 1 : 1,2,3,5,11,19,23,24,26,27,28,33
150 24 Bet 12 36 -12 24 632 1 : 1,2,3,5,11,19,23,24,26,27,28,33
+132 units in 150 spinsThe system is definitely not perfect, nor is it even close to being the Grail, but I think it is pretty good as far as systems go. I think concentrating on the whole repeat factor and the 24/37 theory is the way to go.
*After double checking, it seems I made a mistake and should not have bet at spin #91. RouletteBR, I can see how it is easy to make mistakes. You have to be very careful when tracking this system because one small mistake can throw off your whole result. It shouldn't affect the pointing out of what happened in your test, but it would have affected the overall result.
Thank you for your answer RPro75. I understand all what you said, except this situation:
43 12 Bet 12 36 -12 24 560 1 : 2,3,6,7,12,17,24,25,26,28,29,33 -> OK, we won.
44 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 1 Unique number: 1
45 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Unique numbers: 1, 14
46 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 4 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12
48 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31
49 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31 | Repeaters twice: 12
50 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
51 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 6 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
52 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 7 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
53 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 8 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
54 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 9 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10, 27 | Repeaters twice: 12,31
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 10 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10, 27, 23 | Repeaters twice: 12,31
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 31 REPEAT THIRD TIMES, SO, WE CANCEL AND START ANOTHER TRACKING.
57 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 1 Unique numbers: 21
58 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Uniques numbers: 21, 12
59 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6
60 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6 | Repeaters twice: 21
61 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6,15 | Repeaters twice: 21
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 21 REPEAT THREE TIMES, SO, WE CANCEL AND START ANOTHER TRACKING.
63 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> Now is the problem, why ignore this spin? We already scrap the last spin and start it again, but coincidentally, the number is the same of the scraped one.
64 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Unique numbers: 21, 2 - Isn't right?
Thank you for your time.
Luiz.
Quote from: RouletteBR on May 19, 2009, 02:06:51 AM
Thank you for your answer RPro75. I understand all what you said, except this situation:
43 12 Bet 12 36 -12 24 560 1 : 2,3,6,7,12,17,24,25,26,28,29,33 -> OK, we won.
44 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 1 Unique number: 1
45 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Unique numbers: 1, 14
46 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 4 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12
48 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31
49 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31 | Repeaters twice: 12
50 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 5 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
51 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 6 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
52 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 7 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
53 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 8 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10 | Repeaters twice: 12, 31
54 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 9 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10, 27 | Repeaters twice: 12,31
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 10 Unique numbers: 1, 14, 17, 12, 31, 34, 30, 10, 27, 23 | Repeaters twice: 12,31
56 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 31 REPEAT THIRD TIMES, SO, WE CANCEL AND START ANOTHER TRACKING.
57 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 1 Unique numbers: 21
58 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Uniques numbers: 21, 12
59 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6
60 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 3 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6 | Repeaters twice: 21
61 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Uniques numbers: 21, 12, 6,15 | Repeaters twice: 21
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 21 REPEAT THREE TIMES, SO, WE CANCEL AND START ANOTHER TRACKING.
63 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> Now is the problem, why ignore this spin? We already scrap the last spin and start it again, but coincidentally, the number is the same of the scraped one.
64 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 560 -> 2 Unique numbers: 21, 2 - Isn't right?
Thank you for your time.
Luiz.
Yes, you are right, the second 21 would be the first number in our next string. My mistake. Good eye on your part. :thumbsup:
Quote from: RPro75 on May 19, 2009, 02:31:49 AM
Yes, you are right, the second 21 would be the first number in our next string. My mistake. Good eye on your part. :thumbsup:
Thanks, but is not me, is the RX, he never lies! ;D
I will run some tests with my code and your progression, let see the how it goes.
Test 1 - 70 spins
Source: Spielbank
Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 500
1 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
2 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
3 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
4 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
5 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
6 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
7 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
8 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
9 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
10 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
11 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
12 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
13 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
14 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
15 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
16 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 500
17 34 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 488 1 : 1,4,7,8,10,13,22,25,28,35,36,0
18 15 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 464 2 : 1,4,7,8,10,13,22,25,28,35,36,0
19 16 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 428 3 : 1,4,7,8,10,13,22,25,28,35,36,0
20 2 Bet 48 0 -48 -48 380 4 : 1,4,7,8,10,13,22,25,28,35,36,0
21 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
22 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
23 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
24 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
25 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
26 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
27 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
28 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
29 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
30 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
31 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 380
32 22 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 368 1 : 2,7,10,12,13,20,21,24,31,34,36,0
33 17 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 344 2 : 2,7,10,12,13,20,21,24,31,34,36,0
34 14 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 308 3 : 2,7,10,12,13,20,21,24,31,34,36,0
35 29 Bet 48 0 -48 -48 260 4 : 2,7,10,12,13,20,21,24,31,34,36,0
36 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
37 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
38 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
39 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
40 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
41 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
42 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
43 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
44 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
45 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
46 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
47 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
48 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
49 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
50 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
51 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
52 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
53 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
54 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
55 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
56 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
57 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
58 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
59 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 260
60 2 Bet 12 0 -12 -12 248 1 : 3,8,10,12,14,17,19,21,24,26,28,30
61 35 Bet 24 0 -24 -24 224 2 : 3,8,10,12,14,17,19,21,24,26,28,30
62 0 Bet 36 0 -36 -36 188 3 : 3,8,10,12,14,17,19,21,24,26,28,30
63 25 Bet 48 0 -48 -48 140 4 : 3,8,10,12,14,17,19,21,24,26,28,30
64 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
65 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
66 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
67 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
68 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
69 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
70 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 140
Final BR: -360u :(
Test 2 - 2657 spins
Source: Spielbank
Start BR: 500u
End BR: 2264u
Highest BR: 2264u
Lowest BR: 440u
Graphic (click to enlarge):
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QuoteTest 2 - 2657 spins
Source: Spielbank
Start BR: 500u
End BR: 2264u
Highest BR: 2264u
Lowest BR: 440u
Looks good.
Quote from: babs on May 19, 2009, 04:24:40 PM
Looks good.
When you win, you can win big, of course, the same applies to losing!
Quote from: RPro75 on May 15, 2009, 05:52:51 PM
This is a simple system based on repeating numbers. It is a progressive system so it may not be for everyone. The only way you can lose with this system is if one of the first 8 numbers does not repeat in 24 spins. Now, you may not always be able to bet, but when you can, I think you have a great chance of winning this bet.
System Rules
1. You must track 8 spins. In order to be able to use these spins for this system, there must be no repeaters in those 8 spins. (In other words, 8 unique numbers).
2. You then wait for 4 more spins, again, none of these can be repeaters. You must now have a total of 12 spins with no repeaters.
3. You will now bet the first 8 numbers you tracked with this 12 step progression: 1,1,1,1,2,2,3,5,5,7,9,12.
So far, and I know it's early, I have been having good results. It takes patience, because it is not always easy to get 12 numbers with no repeater. If you are tracking and you encounter a repeater, stop. Begin again and the next spin will be your first spin to track. Basically, you need a string of 12 unique numbers to bet. You will only lose if 24 unique numbers spin up in a row. If you lose the progression, you will lose 389 units (ouch!). Therefore, I recommend playing with no larger than $.25 units. A bankroll of 800 units ($200.00) is recommended. It will be a larger or smaller amount of money depending on which size unit you choose.
at which casino this system works better? i mean,playtech,microgaming,netent etc... where have you made your tests? watch out ! if you loose one session its very difficult to recover with the same min bet... better to start with first 8 numbers by the way! thank you and congratulations!
I would be very careful with Betvoyager, they seem to go long stretches with no repeats.
remember RNG roulette is not roulette, you are just playing a slot machine. Maybe try a live wheel on line.
:hi:
Hey is anyone still playing this system?