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Title: Ultimate RXtreme .DGT File - Test Any Inside #'s System You Can Dream Up
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 01:14:52 AM
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN UPDATED

Please Read the Update on this Thread Here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/what's-your-system-here-is-mine-now-make-your-own/msg65481/#msg65481





I know, that is an awfully cryptic title.  Here is the explanation.  I have modified (modified so much in fact, I basically wrote it myself) a system I had written for me for RXtreme. 

I have modified it so much, and it has so many inputs, you can basically design your own system around it, and have it tested automatically by RXtreme.

(the download link is at the bottom)

First, as this is the full systems section, I want you to know I have not posted in the wrong area.  I am going to give you my user input settings so you can test that system first, and then maybe you can modify it to make it better (using the many variable inputs) and then re-post here.

First I'll explain the user inputs you'll see below, then I will give you my user settings at the bottom of the page.  Then you can test it (automatically, no thousands and thousands of manual test spins here folks) and report back any improvements you've made, or an entirely new system you've created with the many user inputs.

Here is the explanation of the inputs:

Here are what the inputs you'll see upon starting this in RXtreme mean:

Lowest Acceptable Bankroll Amount:  How much are you willing to lose?  $100?  If so subtract that number from your current bankroll, and that is your lowest acceptable bankroll amount.

Total BankRoll Goal:  How much do you want to win? $100?  If so, add that to your current bankroll and that is your total bankroll goal.

Stop Trying to Recover Previous Losses after this much is lost: Set this to 1 if you don't like progression betting.  Then, if you've lost more than a dollar it won't try to recover those losses.  If you like progression betting, decide how deep into losses you're willing to go before it stops trying to recover them and starts the betting over from the beginning.

Number of Spins to Track before betting:  I think this is self-explanatory

Number of bets into progression: how many bets into the progression are you willing to go?  This works independently of "stop trying to recover losses".  What I mean is if you select one for "number of bets into progression" it will bet one time, if it loses, it will track a new set of how ever many spins you said to track, but if it hasn't reached the amount you put in for "stop trying to recover losses after x amount" then the next time it bets it will be a larger number than the first until it HAS hit "stop trying to recover losses" amount.  If you select two for this option, it will bet two times back to back without tracking a new set of the amount of numbers you selected for tracking and then if it loses it will track a new set of how ever many spins you designated...and so forth.

Bet on Singles: This means bet on numbers hit once

Bet on Doubles: This means bet on numbers hit twice

Bet on triples: This means bet on numbers hit three times

(it bets on un-hit numbers by default all the time)

Minimum Number of Un-Hit Numbers before betting begins: This means how many numbers do you want to not have hit at all in the number of spins you designated in the first option for betting to begin.  If it is below this it will re-track until it is above this number

Maximum Number of un-hit numbers before betting begins: same as above, but has to be below not above this amount.

Minimum Acceptable Profit in Units: On a win, this is the minimum win amount you'll accept.



For those of you who watched my live session earlier, the settings I am about to give below are CLOSE to what you saw...but not quite the same.  (If you're clever you'll figure it out)  But there are pretty much an infinite amount of things you can do with this inside RXtreme, so play around with it.

Here are my recommended (but scary as far as progression amount goes) settings:

(click the image to make it larger...oh, and the "lowest acceptable bankroll amount" and '"total bankroll goal" only apply if your starting BR is 500 units)

Here is the download link for the system: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=395

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Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 02, 2009, 01:38:45 AM
I love your enthusiasm, Rjeaton1.  I hope more VLS members find the same passion.

I'm starting to believe (since RNG is the only option for me right now) that the mindset for Live Roulette and RNG Roulette are backwards.  (With Live Roulette, you must take physics into account)--Now with RNG, since there is no physics, everything is opposite Live, so the RX readings are your only gauge for system performance and the live wheel test becomes secondary.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 03:22:12 AM
Just wanted  to let you guys know that I have found a pretty successful set of settings for this .dgt file.  I would be playing it with dimes as units (if I were able to play with dimes in a real casino anyway).  I am letting it run overnight while I'm sleeping, but if you'd like to see it perform live (it will be live all night long) feel free to check it out at:

nolinks.livestream.com/liveroulettefeed

Alright, finally got this set up correctly.  I am now going to bed, but that live feed will be up all night.  When I wake up tomorrow I will post the results of how it did here.

In the meantime you can watch it yourself if you'd like.

enjoy guys!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 02, 2009, 05:28:28 AM
Looking very good over 300,000 spins - is this quite a bit modded from the original upload?

Thanks again RJ!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
Wow, your settings you give here are like the live feed from earlier.  Also just checked out your all night feed.  At 1,061,000 spins +8500 units.  Thanks for the RX coding, makes things a lot faster ;)
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
Wow, your settings you give here are like the live feed from earlier.  Also just checked out your all night feed.  At 1,061,000 spins +8500 units.  Thanks for the RX coding, makes things a lot faster ;)

Yes Celiza, they are similar (but not quite the same, play around with it and I'm sure you'll figure it out though.)

As for last nights tests (I just woke up guys), here are the results (check out the pictures below).  I have also included a picture of the settings screen so you guys can test this for yourselves.

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You'll notice the strange "win goal" and "loss goal" settings, that was just to keep it running overnight.
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Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 11:18:38 AM
OH, and just to let you guys know I have turned the live feed off (it uses up a lot of the processing power and bandwith), but I experiment with different settings throughout the day, and if I find something successful (or appears to be successful) I will run a live feed of it every night.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: elamigos on June 02, 2009, 11:37:44 AM
Hi RJ, can you tell me what tools you are using to log & remember last numbers? (then show opposite/unhit to bet)
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 12:23:39 PM
Having some fun playing around with this coding...what sucks is I haven't gotten anything to work unless there is a progression.  I don't mind progressions too much, but wow, I'm playing for triples right now, and the 2nd step in my progression is to bet 620 units.  A little steep.  :sarcastic:

If you're able to play with 10 cent units I would definitely give this a try though.  RJ's settings he gave in an earlier post take a lot of spins to gain a profit, but if you play for triples it seems your BR climbs faster.  Worth a shot, always test first.

**edit** here's a screen shot of my 20,000 spin test of betting on triples.  Also, I know going from $100 to $6,044 is not possible (because of the units needed to bet after a loss is 612, and if I lost early on I would not have enough in the bank to cover that) So if playing with dollar units at least 700 would be needed in order to feel somewhat safe.  Again, playing with 10 c or even 25 c bets would be awesome.


Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 12:23:39 PM
Having some fun playing around with this coding...what sucks is I haven't gotten anything to work unless there is a progression.  I don't mind progressions too much, but wow, I'm playing for triples right now, and the 2nd step in my progression is to bet 620 units.  A little steep.  :sarcastic:

If you're able to play with 10 cent units I would definitely give this a try though.  RJ's settings he gave in an earlier post take a lot of spins to gain a profit, but if you play for triples it seems your BR climbs faster.  Worth a shot, always test first.

**edit** here's a screen shot of my 20,000 spin test of betting on triples.  Also, I know going from $100 to $6,044 is not possible (because of the units needed to bet after a loss is 612, and if I lost early on I would not have enough in the bank to cover that) So if playing with dollar units at least 700 would be needed in order to feel somewhat safe.  Again, playing with 10 c or even 25 c bets would be awesome.




That's awesome Celiza!  If you wouldn't mind, could you also add a snapshot off the user input screen with the settings you used?  If not, maybe you could just type them out and tell us what your settings were.

Oh, and for anybody else that figures out a set of user inputs that seem to produce favorable results, could you too place snapshot or type out your user input settings. 

That should make it easier for everybody to see what works and then maybe modify it, or even just use it to play for real money.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
Heh, sorry about that.  Here's the input data, but I would scrap that - think I just had a really lucky run.  I've run a couple more tests since and have crashed and burned.  Not gonna stop me from playing around tho ;)
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: celiza427 on June 02, 2009, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 10:52:39 AM
Yes Celiza, they are similar (but not quite the same, play around with it and I'm sure you'll figure it out though.)

As for last nights tests (I just woke up guys), here are the results (check out the pictures below).  I have also included a picture of the settings screen so you guys can test this for yourselves.

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You'll notice the strange "win goal" and "loss goal" settings, that was just to keep it running overnight.
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Hey RJ, I've been running a few tests on these settings, the only thing I changed was (well besides the 2 bankroll ones) Number of Spins to track from 30 to 20.  My max drawdown in 10,000 spins was 432  bankroll at 1442.  Ok, gotta run to work!!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 02, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
My RX keeps flicking to a no zero wheel, is  that correct?
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: sean43 on June 02, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
My RX keeps flicking to a no zero wheel, is  that correct?

Yes sean, that is correct.  I have however edited the program, now with the following updates:

Added Input Options:

Select from No-Zero Wheel, Single Zero Wheel, and Double Zero Wheel

and you can now turn off or on the option to bet on un-hit numbers.  So, for example, before it you wanted to bet on numbers hit 3 times, you had to also bet on numbers hit zero times (it, by default, always bet on un-hit numbers).  Now, you can bet individually on numbers hit zero times, one time, twice and three times, or select two at once, or three at once, or all four.  It's up to you what combination you use.

You can download the updated version with the same link as before.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 02, 2009, 03:24:39 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention, you can't type in "-1" to turn an option off.  You have to use the arrow pointing down to the right of the selection to make it go to "-1"
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 02, 2009, 03:34:07 PM
Any success with the zero wheel yet rj?
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: etteluor on June 02, 2009, 11:46:40 PM
hi guys,

am kinda confuse how rjeaton1 can run the system and do bettings at the same time while he goes to sleep? Rjeaton can i just ask is this program able to make bettings for you automatically on online casinos once you set it to your correct requirements? would love to give it a try later on but need some guidance.  pardon my ignorance.  thanks guys!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 03, 2009, 12:08:47 AM
Hey there guys, I believe I found the system I am going to use for live play (real money).  To make sure I am going to let it run overnight again and see how it fairs.

It is designed for a single zero wheel.  Again, same as today, when I wake up tomorrow I will post the results and the settings for it.

The feed should be live in about ten minutes.  As soon as I have it set up I will be going to sleep so I won't be around to talk to you guys.  But feel free to watch if you'd like.

Again, the link to watch the live feed is nolinks://nolinks.livestream.com/liveroulettefeed

Enjoy!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: celiza427 on June 03, 2009, 12:13:19 AM
Awesome, I'll be tuning in  :thumbsup:  I've found a couple of decent ways to play but they're pretty conservative and I can't settle on anything yet.  Still tweaking it.  Excited to see your results.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 03, 2009, 12:14:33 AM
This is live now, it is slow going, and it is designed to win only once a day (using a bot of course).  When that win happens it profits 100 units.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: Learning on June 03, 2009, 12:43:16 AM
Great job...watcing the live feed of it. 
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 03, 2009, 01:14:54 AM
I just got up for a minute to see how this was going - can't wait to see how it does  :diablo: haha. 

Good thing I did, as I realized this was the more aggressive of two settings.  This one is meant for those outside the US who can play with .10 as units.  The one I meant to do an overnight test of was the one for those living in the US where we only have 1.00 as the smallest unit amount to bet with.

The one you see now, using .10 as units, would have a largest drawdown of $500.00  using 1.00 as units, that would be $5,000 a bit out of my comfort zone, haha.

The one I will do tomorrow night will be the one that is SIGNIFICANTLY more slow going, although the graph will look the same.  The drawdowns are less, but it wins less often.  From the tests I did on my own of it, the largest drawdown was still around $300, and is designed to win only once a day with a 100 unit profit on that win.

Alright, going to go back to bed now.  If you're watching enjoy!  and don't be insulted if I don't answer in the chat room as I will be sleeping.  Take Care!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 03, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
What settings are you using for this rj? Do you reccomend a rng?
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 03, 2009, 07:31:34 PM
lol I keep tanking around 10k spins. Howd the test go RJ!!
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 03, 2009, 08:11:31 PM
Quote from: sean43 on June 03, 2009, 07:31:34 PM
lol I keep tanking around 10k spins. Howd the test go RJ!!

I know, it's a pain watching it climb, climb, climb....and then tank...haha

Happens to me allllll the time.

My test went well, just not live play well...unfortunately.  I will post the results here soon enough, I'm just using my other computer right now to get data from an online casino.

I will also post the user input settings here for anybody that wants to see what the results would look like for themselves.

After I woke up and saw it, I made a couple more adjustments and I think I may have found something worthy of live play.  I'll be letting everybody know soon enough.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: sean43 on June 04, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
any more news rj?
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 04, 2009, 08:24:18 PM
Quote from: sean43 on June 04, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
any more news rj?

For the most recent update on how I'm doing you can check it out here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/my-last-step-before-live-play-with-a-bot-for-real-money/

When I get those 200,000 spins I mention in that thread, I will be testing them live overnight again here for everybody to see.
Title: Re: What's Your System? - Here is Mine, Now Make Your Own (For Use with RXtreme)
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 13, 2009, 04:31:43 AM
Alright, I just wanted to let you guys know I fixed a couple of "bugs" with this RXtreme Coding.  A couple of people using it let me know there were some features that didn't seem to be working correctly (particularly the "minimum and maximum un-hit numbers before betting" feature)

The min. max un-hit number before betting feature has been changed to "minimum number of numbers to bet on and maximum number of numbers to bet on before betting begins"

Also, in my first post in this thread all I did was tell you guys the "features" of this program, and what each of the settings did.  I did not however explain any of the benefits of this system.

Basically, ANY Inside Number Betting system you dream up can be executed and tested with this program.

Let me give you a few examples:

Want to track 200 spins of the wheel and then bet only on sleepers?  How about only bet on the sleepers after 200 spins if there is only 1 sleeper?  2 sleepers?  or how about you want to track 200 spins and only bet on sleepers if there are 5 of them?  You can test that.

Want to bet on those sleepers flat betting or with a progression?  You can test that to.

Or, maybe you want to track 20 spins of the wheel and only bet on numbers hit twice, and only place bets until spin 37 hoping that a number triples.  You can test that too.

Or, maybe you want to track 20 spins of the wheel and only place bets on numbers hit one time?  Or, maybe you only want to bet on the numbers hit one time IF NO NUMBER HAS COME OUT TWICE?  You can test all of this.

Or, maybe you want to track 37 spins of the wheel, and only bet on numbers hit one time if in those 37 spins ONLY 18 different numbers came out, and then bet on those single hit numbers for 14 spins with a progression, but stop short in the progression if you've lost more than 127 units, and then START BETTING AGAIN at the start of the progression.

You can push this program to ANY EXTREME you want.

Literally, just about any Inside Number System you can think of, flat betting, progression, triples, doubles, singles, sleepers...or any combination of those you can dream up, can be tested with this program.

The updated and Final version of this .DGT file is located here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=395

If you have any questions about how to configure this file to make it bet a system that you have dreamt up, ask here and I will do my best to answer you.

I must warn you however, this can be quite a discouraging program to run....I have lost COUNTLESS hours of my life to it, haha, trying to come up with something that wins long term.  There are literally an infinite amount of settings to this thing, and you'll be hunting for that winning system for hours on end once you really figure out how everything works.

Again, any questions, this is the place to ask them.
Title: Re: Ultimate RXtreme Testing Program for Inside Numbers Systems
Post by: rjeaton1 on June 13, 2009, 12:16:16 PM
I think I may have found a decent set of settings for this thing...again...finally...haha

I will report soon, I'm at 450,000 spins right now but I want to hit 1,000,000 before I say anything for sure.
Title: Re: Ultimate RXtreme .DGT File - Test Any Inside #'s System You Can Dream Up
Post by: sean43 on June 14, 2009, 01:32:22 PM
Hopefully RJ! Ive been testing and testing and just cant get the exact right settings.
Title: Re: Ultimate RXtreme .DGT File - Test Any Inside #'s System You Can Dream Up
Post by: gianfrancopierino on January 12, 2023, 10:53:22 AM
can anyone upload that dgt file, can't find it
i know is late, any new developmets?
Title: Re: Ultimate RXtreme .DGT File - Test Any Inside #'s System You Can Dream Up
Post by: pokerstu on February 29, 2024, 01:01:07 PM
link dosent work