The vaporware is proceeding as expected. Here is an excerpt from one of the concepts:


on mouseUp
  global spinList, dozList, colList, rbList, oeList, lhList
  global globalTrendList, attackMode, thisSpinHold, theSpinCount, goodSpin
  put the number of items in spinList into zap
  put the text of field "fld2" into thisSpinHold
  setGroupsNow -- creates the groups as a string
  processSpin -- cleans up the spin entry box
  if goodSpin = "true" then
     add 1 to theSpinCount
     put theSpinCount into field "fld3"
  end if
  trapSpin -- fills in the Lists - dozList, colList, rbList, oeList, lhList  
  ------------- example: 13232132 or 11211222121212
  -----------------
  makeBetSelectionSingles -- gets data on existing singles
end mouseUp

on makeBetSelectionSingles
  global betCode, winLossList, thisSpinHold
  global spinList, dozList, colList, rbList, oeList, lhList, globalTrendList, attackMode
  put findSinglesEC(rbList, 3) into holdECRB3
  put findSinglesEC(oeList, 3) into holdECOE3
  put findSinglesEC(lhList, 3) into holdECLH3
  put findSinglesDOZ(dozList, 3) into holdDozDoz3
  put findSinglesDOZ(colList, 3) into holdDozCol3
  put findSinglesEC(rbList, 7) into holdECRB7
  put findSinglesEC(oeList, 7) into holdECOE7
  put findSinglesEC(lhList, 7) into holdECLH7
  put findSinglesDOZ(dozList, 7) into holdDozDoz7
  put findSinglesDOZ(colList, 7) into holdDozCol7
end makeBetSelectionSingles

function findSinglesEC thisListX, hNum
  put "" into conditionSingleTF
  put the number of chars in thisListX into hNumChars
  put char (hNumChars - hNum) to hNumChars of thisListX into holdBatch
  put offset("11", holdBatch) into tHold
  if tHold > 0 then
     put "false1, " after conditionSingleTF
  else
     put "true1, " after conditionSingleTF
  end if
  put offset("22", holdBatch) into tHold
  if tHold > 0 then
     put "false2" after conditionSingleTF
  else
     put "true2" after conditionSingleTF
  end if
  return conditionSingleTF
end findSinglesEC

function findSinglesDOZ thisListX, hNum
  put "" into conditionSingleTF
  put the number of chars in thisListX into hNumChars
  put char (hNumChars - hNum) to hNumChars of thisListX into holdBatch
  put offset("11", holdBatch) into tHold
  if tHold > 0 then
     put "false1, " after conditionSingleTF
  else
     put "true1, " after conditionSingleTF
  end if
  put offset("22", holdBatch) into tHold
  if tHold > 0 then
     put "false2, " after conditionSingleTF
  else
     put "true2, " after conditionSingleTF
  end if
  put offset("33", holdBatch) into tHold
  if tHold > 0 then
     put "false3" after conditionSingleTF
  else
     put "true3" after conditionSingleTF
  end if
  return conditionSingleTF
end findSinglesDOZ

Exhibit "A"

But does it get TV stations? Will it make coffee? Does it do anything useful at all.

Quote from: cheese on April 05, 2011, 07:37:43 PM
But does it get TV stations? Will it make coffee? Does it do anything useful at all.

Cheese, what is this unproductive arguing? Gizmo comes up with something, why are u just bashing him with no concrete ideas or proving he does anything wrong? i don't necessary mean that he is right or u r wrong, i just can't see your point. U just tell him that his ideas don't work, no examples, no proof, nothing. Is it about roulette at all?
Or your personal relations with Gizmo?

If u have some better tricks in your sleeve why not show?

is it for sale. just sit at the table and press the button. and the next number comes up.

Quote from: iggiv on April 05, 2011, 07:56:03 PM
I don't necessary mean that he is right or u r wrong, I just can't see your point.

My point is, he never comes with anything thats usable, he just talks talks talks about what he's GOING to do. He's been talking for over a year now and has produced zero. He did his Proof Demo here and proved he knew how to lose. Now he's going to build a box and win with that? What am I supposed to say. Hooray?

Quote from: cheese on April 06, 2011, 12:25:50 AM
My point is, he never comes with anything thats usable, he just talks talks talks about what he's GOING to do. He's been talking for over a year now and has produced zero. He did his Proof Demo here and proved he knew how to lose. Now he's going to build a box and win with that? What am I supposed to say. Hooray?

You might mention that before I began to take on students all I ever talked about was randomness, trends, patterns, dominances, and other characteristics of randomness, including reading randomness. You were pretty much in agreement with all that until I decided to share it with others. Then you became my personal internet troll. And that's all you have offered anyone for the past year. Cheese/ Spike was not one of my students. He has no idea what works. He says he has spoken with a few past students of mine that can't win with what I showed them. It's not my fault if they failed to learn. It happens all the time in colleges across the country. Do those students go find a Father Roulette figure to cry on their shoulders? Did they have to pay for their education even though they failed? Heck yes they do. This is not a case of unfairness. In fact all my past students get a free version of the working black box tool. Then there will be no excuse for not being able to win. And then there will be no need for Father Roulette. Cheese is a fundamentalist extremist. He thinks he wrote the book on Roulette. He thinks his unsubstantiated accusations should be taken as the gospel. In the past year I'm the only one here that has taken a stand and done something about my claims. Cheese / Spike has offered nothing but hate speech.

Cheese thinks he can win more than he can lose long term playing even chance bets only and flat betting. He will not share his secrets with anyone. If you don't believe me just look at what he has written at GG under the name Spike, here under the name Spike and Cheese. You will soon know who it really is that never comes with anything  usable.

The only thing he does now is wreck threads.

Quote from: pins on April 06, 2011, 12:09:34 AM
is it for sale. just sit at the table and press the button. and the next number comes up.

It's a computer application. It lets you enter the last spin, you press spin, and then it tells you what to bet for the next spin. It's not an automated online internet bot. You can't use it at a live B&M casino. They won't allow computers at the table. You will need to use it with an online casino. You can also use it to prove that I have been telling the truth all along. At some point it will reach a consciences and achieve validation of concept. It was designed specifically to accomplish that goal. Because it's an algorithm, it is mathematical proof that the house's advantage is not an absolute, written in stone, that the frequentest oriented probability experts say it is. It's designed to end debate. It is only being presented at this forum.

After it has been seen to  be effective I will sell it to individuals. There will not be excuses for not doing the work to gain the needed experience with this. I will always let any potential customer try it out first. They will be able to prove to themselves that it works before they ever put up any purchase price. But for now, everyone will be able to try it out here at this forum. I think that is about as fair as I can make it.

u r gonna let everybody  download it?

u enter last spin-- it tells u what to bet based on 1 last spin only or previous spins as well?

Quote from: iggiv on April 06, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
u r gonna let everybody  download it?

u enter last spin-- it tells u what to bet based on 1 last spin only or previous spins as well?

It's a black box.

Definition: "a. A device or theoretical construct with known or specified performance characteristics but unknown or unspecified constituents and means of operation."

I'm going to let everybody download it.

I'm not going to explain how it works. I've done that. I'm done taking on students. "This is the future."

So when do you reckon this software will be ready Gizmo?

Quote from: Mike on April 06, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
So when do you reckon this software will be ready Gizmo?

It took me about  two hours to create the interface and the controls to license it. It took about two hours to isolate the singles in all the outside table bets in a telemetry format. So I have about four to five hours on it in two days so far. Some days I really feel like working on it. I think it will take about three weeks.

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 06, 2011, 11:16:17 AM
It's a black box.

Definition: "a. A device or theoretical construct with known or specified performance characteristics but unknown or unspecified constituents and means of operation."

I'm going to let everybody download it.

I'm not going to explain how it works. I've done that. I'm done taking on students. "This is the future."

ic. thanx for explaining....will be waiting for your mysterious black box

Wow, that's a first time in 15 years. I was debugging this part of the program and it turns out I forgot to save something yesterday. But luckily I had posted the improvement here above. So all I had to do was cut and paste the corrected handler from here. It saved about 30 minutes. I was testing to see if everything sent out correct telemetry on singles. It does.



14, 22, 17, 34, 3, 12, 28, 5, 35, 1, 16, 13,

Singles:

false1, true2 122111212112
false1, true2 221212211121
false1, true2 121211212111
true1, false2, true3 222311313122
false1, true2, true3 212133122111

false1, true2 122111212112
false1, false2 221212211121
false1, true2 121211212111
false1, false2, true3 222311313122
false1, false2, false3 212133122111

Sleepers:

false1, true2 122111212112
false1, true2 221212211121
false1, true2 121211212111
true1, false2, true3 222311313122
false1, true2, true3 212133122111

false1, true2 122111212112
false1, false2 221212211121
false1, true2 121211212111
false1, false2, true3 222311313122
false1, false2, false3 212133122111

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 06, 2011, 10:45:33 AM


Cheese thinks he can win more than he can lose long term playing even chance bets only and flat betting. He will not share his secrets with anyone.

Just not true. I share everything I have with the casino every time I play. They are the only ones who pay well.

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