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Ronjo's 3 Group System.

Started by Lanky, December 05, 2008, 03:58:02 AM

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Clothdog

hi Lanky,
check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L
15 L
17 L
21 W
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L
25 L
4  W
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L
28 L
27 L
3  L..STOP


23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED?
15 L
29 L
15 L
1  L..STOP
23
20
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT
6  L
19 L
36 L
27 W
31
33
25 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1
20 L
34 L
35 L
20 L..STOP


17 ..PLAY GRP 2
33 L
17 L
29 W
17

12 PLAY GRP 3
20 L
14 L
25 L
22 L..STOP
33
11
7  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L
31 L
1  L
33 W
26

35 ...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 L
20 W
Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd

TwoCatSam

Lanky, Ronjo and all.....

I am dry testing this with numbers Track4 saves to disk.  (Another great feature of that program!)

Needless to say, if---forever---the thing held up the way it has over about 100 spins, well, you know!

I will scan and post sheets when I get home. 

Sam

TwoCatSam

Lanky

Ran into a strange trot.  Can I run this past you for your consultation?  I will show how and why I played it.

18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.
34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4...Since I have no dominant in my four losers (3,1,1,3), I went with the 1 for two reasons:  1.  Lots of 1s in the past; it is dominant.  2.  Just looking at the last four 1 is the fartherest back.  So I carry on betting 1.
21-2..L5...Here the 2 I was seeking comes back into the fray.  Do I continue to bet on the 1 or switch back to the 2?  Here's what happened.
6-3..L6
17-1..W!

Sam

TwoCatSam

I've just finished  mind-numbingly boring test of well over 200 spins in a trot.  This thing went six L in a row one time and 5 L a couple more.  The progression Lanky outlined would handle that easily.

I'll scan and post the sheets Monday or Tuesday.

Sam

Lanky

Quotehi Lanky,

Hi Mate
No problems I will put my reply in blue for You Cobber
It will look a bit messy with your comments there as well but this way you will be able to see the difference Mate.


check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win bet 1= +{24}Profit
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win bet 1=+24=24={48}profit
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L bet 1 lost
15 L bet 1 lost
17 L bet1 lost
21 W bet 2 win 12+48={60} profit (Ronjo says to go home here)
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L bet 1 lost
25 L bet 1 lost
4  W bet 1=Even & a carry over Profit total of {60}
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L Bet 1 lost
28 L Bet 1 lost
27 L Bet1 lost
3  L.. Bet 2 lost STOP <<correct
But now because You have lost 4 straight bets on the Due You now turn & bet the Dominant from the last 3 spins.
Which in this case was 2 2 3 =G2 Dominant


9-Lost  Bet 2 lost
1-Lost  <<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets  < Bet 3 lost
23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED? <<Won bet on Dominant G2 Bet 111223(4) <<winning bet
So its 111223(4)=14 out –less 12 back= Minus 2 like this 1-1


Call on 3 numbers to find the Due Group
15 L <no bet G1
29 L <no bet G2
15 L <no bet G1

Group 3 Now DUE
1  L..STOP Lost bet 1
23=Lost bet 2
20 =Lost bet 2
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT <<This Bet won CD as it G3
So its now 11122(3)=10 out- less 9= Minus 1


Call on 3 more numbers

6  L <no bet G3
19 L <no bet G1
36 L <no bet G3

Group 2 Now DUE

27 W- = Win bet 1(1)=2 out –3 back=+12+60 from before ={72} profit

Call on 3 more numbers

31-G1
33 –G3
25 –G2 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1

Group 1 Now DUE <<correct

20 L-G2 bet 1 lost
34 L-G3 bet 1 lost
35 L-G3 bet 1 lost
20 L..G2  bet 2 lost STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 332.
So Group 3 is now Dominant


7-G3 <<win here 
Bets are 1112(2)=7 out- less 6 back- minus 1


Call on 3 more

5 –G3
17 –G1.PLAY GRP 2 <<Group 1 has come back into play as we are calling on so we will bet the Due at the end of the call on.
33 L-G3


So its gone 3 1 1= G2 DUE

17- G1 L Bet lost

29 W <<we win Here bet 11(1)=3 out –less 3 back=Even & a carry over progit of +{72}

Call on 3 more for the DUE

17

12 PLAY GRP 3  << correct

20 L bet 1
14 L bet 1
25 L bet 1
22 L..bet 2 STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 122
So G2 is the Dominant

33-G3=Lost bet 2<<<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets

11-G1=Lost bet 2
7 –G3= Lost bet 3  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L=G Lost bet 4
Now back to The DUE.

So we call on 3 more numbers

31 L <<G1
1  L <<G1
33 W <<G3

Group 2 is now Due

26  <<Win here

So the bets are 1 1 12 2 3 4 (5)=19 out –less 15 back= Minus 5
Like this
1112=(2)is the next bet


Call on 3 more

8  <<G3
35 <<G3...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 <<G1 L

Group 2 is Due again

20 W <<win Here

Bets are 1112(2)=7 out –less 6 back is minus 12+72 profit={60} total Profit overall.

Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group <<yes correct Mate. or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd

Your Friend

Lanky.

Wally Gator

clothdog,

Just a quick note to say that if you follow exactly what Lanky is teaching, you will find this to work exceptionally well.  I have been having many sessions similar to yours thinking something didn't play right.  But, once I've run them by Lanky I found what I've done wrong and realize it's not the system at all, but what I did that screwed it up.  I am still working to get the system down so I don't have to think about it at all, it just comes through normal play.  I can honestly say I have not seen anything like it and if you follow exactly what Lanky (or Ronjo) show you, you will undoubtedly leave far many more times a winner and find success in the long term.  I am very confident this will be the case in my situation and look forward to writing about it here.

As a side note, do you know the ancient Chinese proverb: "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" ?  If you believe this, you are sending your notes to the right guy.

Best, Gator

Lanky

Sam

Yes Mate Not such a good start Cobber,


18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.

Yes G2 is now due

34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4.

Now You pick the Dominant Group from the THREE last spins.
In this case it is 113=G1 is the Dominant Group


21-G2-lost
6-G3-lost
17 G1 –Won

The betting would have gone this way Sam
111223(4) <<is the winning bet.
So its
1112234=14 out –less 12 back=Minus 2
And in you betting Registry it would now look like this


1-1-(1) <<is the next bet

Your Mate .

Lanky.

TwoCatSam

Lanky

I gots me threes and fours mixed up.  Time to make a 3x5 rules card.  Thanks!

That was midway through the trot.  It actually went quite well throughout.

Sam

hoper35

If I had of played this yesterday @ Fallsview:
19 - 1
25 - 2
18 - 1 play 3
14 - 1 lose
3   - 3 win
11 - 1
19 - 1
22 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
18 - 1
9  - 3
14 - 1 play 2
31 - 1 lose
21 - 2 win
34 - 3
31 - 1
30 - 3 play 2
14 - 1 lose
0  - ignore (win with 0/00 split)
17 - 1 lose
34 - 3 lose
18 - 1 lose - 4th loss - switch to 1
17 - 1 win
24 - 2
36 - 3
9  - 3 play 1
14 - 1 win
23 - 2
15 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
9  - 3
24 - 2
19 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
33 - 3 win
5  - 3
36 - 3

I would have done quite well using this method.  I was at even, with my own method, when I quit recording the above (I won $275 later).

Shows promise.
Ron.

hoper35

Quote from: Lanky on December 07, 2008, 06:51:19 AM
Quote from: hoper35 on December 07, 2008, 04:17:10 AM
Sounds promising.  Has similar groupings been developed for the American wheel?


Ron. 8)

Hi Ron.

Betting the same way Wally & I ran through nearly 500 spins today on a Double zero wheel.
He bet 0/00 split with every bet.
It came up a few times too.

Lanky.



Thanks, Lanky.

I quite often add the 0/00 split, too.  Hate to get beat by those zeroes. :)


Ron.

Lanky

@ Ron.

Yes Mate I learnt a long time ago to make the Zero or at least part of it My Friend.

Now Guys.

As most of You know I always record the 1st 20 numbers that come out on the Display board.

And I go right back to the 1st number & work this out from there as I do with the Lw Method.

By the time I get to the end there is nearly always a pattern of either DUE or Dominant present.

No Pattern....No bet.

Now for those that don't have many numbers that they can see straight away.
Like out here on Air-ball we only get to see the last 7 numbers.

Then I would suggest that You wait until there is a Virtual win before you start betting.

I am just trying to help thats all by telling You how or what I do.
More importantly is what I have seen that causes the most problems & How to get around it to some degree.

Lanky.

djroulette

Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj

MXkid77

I just did this quick, may be some help for those using the system online. It's my first major excel code, and so far i don't see any bugs. I am open to suggestions on improving it, i would like to see it being able to tell when to bet and list the progression to be used. But, still a lot more studying on excel before then.

In the members downloads:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile;id=262

Lanky

Quote from: djroulette on December 08, 2008, 06:31:40 AM
Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj

Hi Dj.

My Mate this is what Ronjo says to have as a bank.

QuoteRequired Bankroll:

$1 = $100 + $150 backup
$5 = $500 + $750 backup
$10 = $1000 + $1500 backup
$25 = $2500 + $3750 backup

Me Personally I would recommend a 500 unit Bank.
EG;
50c=$250
$1=$500
But then again thats just Me.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

djroulette

Any stop loss requirements you would recomend as well??? i was thinking stop on loss of 30% of bank and aim for 10% profit?? what you think

dj

djroulette

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