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Inside Number System - Wins within ten spins, Not betting every spin

Started by rjeaton1, May 10, 2009, 03:19:26 PM

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celiza427

Short session (need to go take my doggie's out) but here's 35 spins I just did while waiting for RJs newest video to d/l and I'm +53 units.  I'll do more tests after I learn the new betting calculator and watch the latest video.  Session is attached in .xls form.

rjeaton1

This (for any newcomers to this thread) is the Ten Spins to Win System (as a PDF) in a very easy to understand format (clear explanation, no "roulette forum jargon", just plain old english in a very few amount of words (K.I.S.S). 

When I first posted the system on this thread, although it was complete, it was explained by me very haphazardly.  This should clear up any questions or concerns and make it so anybody, including newcomers, can fully understand and implement the system.  nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=354 

Once you've downloaded that PDF file and read it over, then go ahead and watch one of the videos nolinks://nolinks.megaupload.com/?d=7I1BH3ZG while following along.  Then you should be all set to give this system a go and post your results.

Remember, the whole point of me posting this system for all of you guys was for you to test it, see if me (and the others that have tried it with success here on the forum) are all just having beginners luck or if it really is fantastic, and if we are just lucky what suggestions for improvements do you have.

As I said before, if all I get is positive feedback (along with spin results and win/loss data) I will pay to have this system coded for RXtreme so we can really, really get the ball rolling.

Keep on spinning everybody!

rjeaton1

Quote from: hermes on May 12, 2009, 11:22:56 PM
A guy Aduci ? tested 1 million spins and got 31 unique numbers. But that's 1 million!!!
Hermes

Andruchi, actually (as this is where...a long time ago...my whole roulette journey started).  And while this is absolutely true, that means six doubles appeared in 37 spins.

If we wait until we have 17 different numbers at spin twenty, that means (lets just say we're talking about a session where there are going to be 31 different numbers in 37 spins) that if on spin 21 another number doubles (we place bets) then on spin 22 a different one comes out (we lost) then on spin 23 another number doubles (we place bets) then on spin 24 a different number comes out (we lost) then spin 25 the last double to come out in all of those thirty-seven spins comes out so we place our bets, and then we lose.  Then we continue tracking all the way to spin 37 only to start the system over again.  In that session's example you would lose 100 units or so. 

And only having 31 different numbers come out in 37 spins doesn't even mean you'll definitely lose.  As long as two of the numbers double back-to-back after spin 20, you still win.

rjeaton1

Quote from: celiza427 on May 13, 2009, 12:07:16 AM
Short session (need to go take my doggie's out) but here's 35 spins I just did while waiting for RJs newest video to d/l and I'm +53 units.  I'll do more tests after I learn the new betting calculator and watch the latest video.  Session is attached in .xls form.

Awesome Celiza, 3 spins back-to-back-to-back...great!

rjeaton1

Quote from: RPro75 on May 12, 2009, 11:25:08 PM
Any suggestions on how you would go about finding the second and third bets using this spreadsheet?  What do you think would be the best way? I know I can improve it somehow to find the next bets and maybe even to tell you what numbers to bet.  I'll keep working on it and see where I come out.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "finding the second and third bets".  If you get to twenty spins and there are 17 or more unique numbers, anytime thereafter (being sure to follow the other rules) you just bet on every number you have tracked whenever the unique numbers count doesn't increase.

And what's really cool about the tracker you made is if you use the number spin you're on instead of an X all you have to do to make sure you're only tracking twenty numbers is remove the smallest number and add what spin you're on.  (I.E. - you get to spin 21 and still don't have 17 unique's, you take the number 1 off and put the number 21 on...then you have 2 through 21...twenty numbers tracked).

It's actually really good.  Thanks again Rpro!  I think I am actually going to use this because when I'm playing online having RXtreme open, the wheel frequency tracker, my bet calculator and the casino's playing window...uhhhh....it gets to be very cumbersome.

simon

unless I have incredibly bad luck at the casino as compared to what my real spin data that I recorded from real double zero wheels is showing (though somewhat limited in the amount of actual games I could play-- about 10 so far), I should do ok just betting when you're supposed to start betting and betting on all the numbers you're supposed to, but just leaving it at up to 2 flat bets, because usually this seems to win on the first or second bet.  and I think it will be hard enough for me to get all the chips on to all the numbers to bet, especially at foxwoods where the tables get so busy all the numbers get covered up with everybody's chips and these numbers are going to be all over the place (that is numbers to bet will not be in numerical order as I enter them in columns on my "cheat sheet", but maybe there is a better way to record them.)  anyway I think it will be challenging enough to get the bets down right never mind figuring out the progressions and all that which I am not a fan of anyway.  so I'm thinking I'm going to be laying down a lot of red nickels because it can take a while to get a betting opportunity anyway and I'm seein a lot of +16's, +17's, +18's and +19's on my test sheet and just a couple of negative numbers (flat betting up to two bets and track again.)  so I'm thinking yeah I may have to lay down $85 or so and it's going to suck if I lose a few in a row, but I'm seeing a lot of + $85's too.  then again I may chicken out of betting those red nickels and stick to the dollar chips.  cause you know, systems always seem to go a little better at the kitchen table then at the casino where who knows what the hell will happen...

celiza427

Latest 100+ spin session.  Didn't go further than 2 losses. +78 units  :clapping:  I'm loving this









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1 : 1,8,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,22,24,26,27,30,32,34,36

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1 : 2,3,4,5,7,10,12,14,15,17,19,20,22,24,27,32,34,35,0

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2 : 2,3,4,5,7,12,14,15,17,19,20,22,27,28,32,34,35,0









1 : 2,3,5,7,9,14,15,16,19,22,23,25,28,30,31,34,0


2 : 2,3,5,6,7,9,14,15,16,19,21,22,23,25,28,30,31,34,0

4 : 2,3,5,6,7,9,11,14,15,16,19,21,22,23,25,28,30,31,34,0

rjeaton1

Awesome Celiza!!!!  This is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for from everybody who takes even just a little bit of time to test this system, whether it be 20 spins of the wheel and showing us what their results were, or (what you so generously took the time to test and post) 109 spins of the wheel and posting their results.

This helps me decide whether or not to pay to have this coded for RXtreme so we can all take this system to another level (if it needs to be...be I hope...haha) or if I should just scrap the idea all together.

Thank you so much Celiza, very very encouraging.

@Simon : I wish you all the best at Foxwoods, I absolutely cannot wait to hear those results!  (and man, isn't that the truth about the kitchen table compared to the casino)

RPro75

Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 13, 2009, 12:55:23 AM
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "finding the second and third bets".  If you get to twenty spins and there are 17 or more unique numbers, anytime thereafter (being sure to follow the other rules) you just bet on every number you have tracked whenever the unique numbers count doesn't increase.

And what's really cool about the tracker you made is if you use the number spin you're on instead of an X all you have to do to make sure you're only tracking twenty numbers is remove the smallest number and add what spin you're on.  (I.E. - you get to spin 21 and still don't have 17 unique's, you take the number 1 off and put the number 21 on...then you have 2 through 21...twenty numbers tracked).

It's actually really good.  Thanks again Rpro!  I think I am actually going to use this because when I'm playing online having RXtreme open, the wheel frequency tracker, my bet calculator and the casino's playing window...uhhhh....it gets to be very cumbersome.
Wow, am I dense sometimes! :scratch_ones_head:  Thanks for showing me how to use my own spreadsheet, RJ!!! ;D I'm wondering if there is a way to make the lowest number drop off the spreadsheet.  Also, I'm wondering if I can get the spreadsheet to identify the bet numbers for me.  I'm going to work on it a little tomorrow so look for a new and improved tracker sometime tomorrow.  I did have a bad session but after I posted it I realized I had done a few things wrong and it was not the system's fault that I lost so I removed it.  When I lost the first bet, I bet again right after insyead of waiting for another repeater and then betting.  Also, RJ, have you been betting every number that hit or just numbers with 1 repeat?

RPro75

Here is a brief explanation of how to use the unique number spreadsheet I made for this system.

1.  You type in the spin number in the first row underneath the number when it comes out. 

2.  If it repeats, you type that spin number in the second row underneath the number. (There will always be a number above it, that is the spin number of the first time it came out).  There is room to put the spin number up to four times.  The number should not come out more than 4 times in 20 spins.  If it does happen to someone, let me know, I'll add a 5th row.

3.  After you log spin 20, when you log the next spins (21 and up), you need to drop off the lowest spin number.  (ex. spin # 21, you drop off spin #1, spin 22, you drop off spin 2, etc.).  This way, you should always know when there is a betting opportunity.

I hope it helps and is useful to all of you.

RPro75

I found a glitch in the unique number tracker spreadsheet.  It has been corrected.  Sorry for the confusion.  The corrected one is now available for download in Excel format and RAR format.

RPro75

I think I have got this down now.  Here is my first real test where I feel I played everything right.  It works great.  I am really excited because this system is definitely a consistent moneymaker and may just be the best system out there. I played until Spin 36, and I got 5 bets in, 3 of which I won.  At this point, I think all I had to do was back out the first 16 spins from the tracker (leaving the last 20) and wait for 17 or more unique numbers again.  I think I could have kept on winning.

Spin Number Type   Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout                                                   
  0                                         400                                                                 
  1    22   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  2    23   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  3    34   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  4    32   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  5    34   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  6     6   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  7    24   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  8    31   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
  9     5   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
10    24   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
11    31   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
12    13   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
13     6   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
14     4   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
15     6   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
16     8   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
17    17   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
18    17   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
19     0   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
20    16   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
21    29   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
22    35   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
23    17   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
24    17   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
25    15   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
26     3   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
27     8   No Bet     0     0    0   0     400                                                                 
28    25   Bet       18     0   -18 -18    382    1 : 3,4,5,6,8,13,15,16,17,22,23,24,29,31,32,34,35,0         
29    32   No Bet     0     0    0   0     382                                                                 
30     8   Bet       38     72  -38  34    416    2 : 3,4,5,6,8,13,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,29,31,32,34,35,0       
31     0   No Bet     0     0    0   0     416                                                                 
32    33   Bet       19     0   -19 -19    397    1 : 3,4,5,6,8,13,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,29,31,32,34,35,0       
33    32   No Bet     0     0    0   0     397                                                                 
34    13   Bet       40     72  -40  32    429    2 : 3,4,5,6,8,13,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,29,31,32,33,34,35,0   
35    28   No Bet     0     0    0   0     429                                                                 
36    35   Bet       21     36  -21  15    444    1 : 3,4,5,6,8,13,15,16,17,22,23,24,25,28,29,31,32,33,34,35,0

+44 units profit in 36 spins - Excellent

MATTJONO

HI all. nice work and seems like very good results so far so thought I would try a thew tests to contribute as I deposit £5 ever weekend looking to play systems and only withdraw if I reach £100 or wednesday night if less than £100. so this friday ill be playing this system which seems a nice system to play where you feel confident in when placing chips, my first quick test was easy, rearly easy +40 units in 4 bets.


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26      
20      
33      
34      
0      
5      
4      
36      
27      
25      
3      
25      
27      
14      
31      
27      
11      
23      
0      
1      
20      
30      
15      
29      
9      
30   trigger (bet next on the hits)   
36   trigger (bet next on the hits)   19
20   trigger (bet next on the hits)   19
14   trigger (bet next on the hits)   19
35   finish as in profit. retrack.       -17
                      +40UNITS

BUT AS I KNOW THE LUCK IS ALWAYS WITH YOU WHEN YOU ARE NOT PLAYING FOR REAL MONEY.


I always knew that unhit and hit numbers tend to hit in clumps or streaks but this way of playing certanly takes advantage of this.


cheers,
mattjono

WhiteKnight

I had a really rocky session for my first test...i was betting 9 chips per number at the highest moment, other times i was betting 5 chips per number...after about 180 spins i stopped and was about +3 units :P...i think the progression in the bet calculator grows rather steeply when the repeat are not coming in...i'm awaiting to hear simon's results with flat betting, but thanks for sharing your method RJ!

boatran8

Spin   Number   Type   Bet Unit   Win   Loss   Net   Unit Bal.    Bet Layout
0                     500   
1   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
2   27   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
3   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
4   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
5   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
6   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
7   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
8   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
9   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
10   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
11   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
12   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
13   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
14   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
15   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
16   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
17   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
18   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
19   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
20   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
21   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
22   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
23   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
24   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
25   14   Bet   17   0   -17   -17   483   1 : 1,4,6,7,9,12,13,21,22,26,27,28,31,32,35,36,0
26   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   483   
27   10   Bet   36   0   -36   -36   447   2 : 1,4,6,7,9,12,13,14,21,22,26,27,28,31,32,35,36,0
28   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   447   
29   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   447   
30   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   447   
31   34   Bet   84   0   -84   -84   363   4 : 1,4,6,7,9,10,12,13,14,19,21,22,26,27,28,31,32,33,35,36,0


Hi rjeaton,

Here is the result of my first session but maybe I was wrong with your system and/or the betting.

Thanks for giving me your point of view.

Cheers

boatran8

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