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my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 03:33:42 AM
I have a method of play that has been successful. I would imagine that somebody out there has thought of this way of playing and probably failed with it. But I seem to be having success and I think that the success lies within the rules that I follow.

In the next 1-2 days I am going to post a method of play that has been working for me. I had a plan to wait 2 months before going to a casino but I had to go to sign my sister into one of my comp rooms, so I broke down and played some baccarat. I made about $1070.00. I do not have time to post it now because it is very late and I have to wake up early tomorrow morning. I figured that I would start to set the post up now.

My original plan was to do a lot of testing and post it in July if it held up. But I have a few problems. My first problem is that I ran out of live results and many of the results that I was getting off of the internet seemed odd. As a result of running out of live tests I began testing live on Dublin Bet which is very time consuming. I am starting my summer job soon so I do not have enough time to test it.

I do all of my testing by hand in a notebook. Tomorrow night, or I guess tonight since it is 2:15am I am going to explain my method of play and rewrite a few live tests and post them. I will show how I play and how it has been successful for me. *The most important thing that you must realize is that even though I have done a lot of testing, I have not done enough. I have not played around with the method of play enough. There are a few holes that I need to fix and maybe some of you will have good ideas and better ideas than me. I am not the most creative person when it comes to gambling so it is always great to hear    what other people have to say. I will explain the aspect of play that I want to reevaluate in more depth tomorrow.

Here is a preview of the method of play that I am using.

My base bet is always $20.

The first key component is being realistic about your goals:
I go into each session with the mentality that I have to be realistic about my goals. You must realize that this method is not going to get you rich fast. Being realistic leaves you less vulnerable to the casino. When you make a certain profit you must stop. When you lose a certain amount you must stop and reevaluate. Do not go into the game hoping to kill the casino because no method of play will ever hold up 100% of the time (unless someone out there knows something that I do not know).

The next key component is money management which is probably the most important aspect.

This is what I am still working on with this method of play. I am not sure if I like the progression. My goal is to not get too deep into the progression..I want to avoid being wiped out at all cost. This means that sometimes you may have to stop and just wait it out then get back at it. Next time I play this method I am going to sit down with about $1,200.00 maybe $1,400. But this is one aspect of the method that I am going to put a lot of focus on.

My goal is to make about 5.5-6 units each shoe. So if I am betting at the base unit of $20 then I should make around 110 to 120. In testing I have consistently produced this goal. I did have one odd session where I only finished plus one unit but I don't think I played the shoe right. I have to go back and look at the shoe again.  Many times I reached this goal a little more than half-way through the shoe, but I stopped playing. As soon as I reach my goal of 5.5-6 units which would be $110 to $120 I stop. I do not care how great the session has been. I stop to limit my exposure to the casino because I know that if I am not careful then the casino will eat my winnings and my bankroll.

I still have yet to figure out a good stop-loss limit, whatever you call that. I have not run into the problem of losing that often but I know that it is bound to happen soon so I will figure that out within the next few days.

The next key component to my method is how often I bet.

I do not constantly bet. Yet again the goal is to decrease the exposure to the casino. So I bet when the time is right.



Here is one more important fact to note:
 
When I post the method that I play, I sometimes make a bet that is different from what I am supposed to do. That is because I see an opportunity within the play and I usually end up being correct. I will try my best to describe the what I did if I happen to post a shoe where I made a sudden change the style of betting.



When I play I play for 5 sessions. The day that I made over $1000.00 I played for 8 sessions and I did not follow my rules exactly like I should have. That took a long time to do and I will probably never do that again. So my goal is to walk away with between $400-$500 dollars after 5 shoes (sessions).

This is a very simple way to play and so far I have not had many large drawdowns. For not putting much through into the progression, I think that the progression has been holding up pretty well.
Also...someone may have come up with a style of play like this. And it probably didn't work. If anybody out there knows of a system that is exactly like this then please provide your input on how to make it successful.


Sorry if I do not make sense at times, I am half asleep...I just wanted to get started. I am also sorry for not explaining much about how I play.
I will explain the method soon. I will also post one of my best shoes, one of my hardest shoes, and a few more examples. I will also post the progression and I will restate the rules that I follow for this type of play.


-John

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 03:57:50 AM
Look under bac resultws i have posted 50 shoes for you and others who might want to test something tho 50 is still a small sample

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 05:43:08 PM
Look under bac resultws I have posted 50 shoes for you and others who might want to test something tho 50 is still a small sample

Thank you very much. Every shoe helps

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 06:42:04 PM
I will be posting my method soon, but I want to present an idea first.

This idea deals with perfection:

My method of play is not flawless. Even though I have yet to lose with it, I know that it will lose at some point. However, When it loses I need to make sure that I use enough discipline to stop and accept the loss and go back at it again. But where do I go from there? What happens when I lose more than one time. When happens if I suffer multiple losses in a row? Do I stop and look for something better? Do I continue to seek perfection? OR do I hang on to what I am comfortable with and try to improve the system. I have noticed that so many people seek perfection. They have a system that produces a consistent profit and then all of the sudden the system crashes. This results in the person moving on in search of something better. But my question is, if you have something that you are comfortable playing and it produces a consistent profit most of the time, then why ditch the system? Rather then completely leaving the system behind maybe it is a better choice to improve it.

We have to face reality and realize that we are gambling. We we sit at a table we are taking a chance. With all of life comes chance. You take a chance walking down the street...You even take a chance mopping your floor. On the radio today I heard some lady saying that her finger came off while mopping!! There could possibly be a grail out there for baccarat and roulette, I am not going to make an argument against that or for it. Yet what I do know is that I will never be capable of producing a grail. So what I have come to realize is that if we always seek perfection then we may never get anywhere. We only stress ourselves out more. If we ever do find a perfect system then that is great but life is short, so how long will you really get to enjoy it? You can wake up one morning feeling great and drop dead the next morning. It happens all of the time. Is the search for perfection really worth the stress? In my opinion I would much rather seek improvement than deal with the stress of perfection in the world of gambling.

Here is an example.

I like to exercise. That is what I am most passionate about. I have been lifting seriously for about 3 years. I go into the gym and see people everyday who are looking to get stronger, the hard way just like me. Then I see the occasional person who is so big that you feel sick looking at them. This person has taken the easy way out by taking steroids...they even admit to it. I have come across many people like this.  So what is different between me and the person who takes steroids? Well I am much smaller and they could obviously crush me in a second. Maybe they can make some money by getting in magazines and so on. But here is another difference...While they seek perfection I seek improvement. They stress themselves out so much that they go to such  extremes and use steroids. I take the path of making small gains with no stress.
So how does this pay off? Well I am happy. The person on steroids happiness is only an illusion that is injected through a needle. Better yet, I am in great health, the steroid perfection maniac  may not be in the best health. There are so many bad side effects that come out of steroids, if you do not believe me then just watch a documentary.

I would much rather be in good health and see results over time, rather then jeopardizing my life and being a maniac. I think the same is true with gambling. While seeking perfection is good to a point, I think it can easily be be abused. Just like the guy who goes on steriods and says that he will only use the steroids for a short period. Next thing you know the manic is hooked....


So when I present the method that I use, keep in mind that I am not looking to develop a grail. I am not looking to have a perfect system. I am looking for improvement. I do not care if the improvement lasts for 1 day or 50 years. What I do care is that I learn something, that the method of play becomes stronger, and that I do not become an obsessive maniac.

Happiness does not come from perfection because when things seem perfect they will crumble. That is how the universe works. Happiness comes from being comfortable with what you have and seeking out opportunity to improve what you have through Less stressful avenues.

I always seem to have success in what I do. This is because I am determined and I do not stress myself to reach perfection. I always seem to improve but I improve within realistic boundaries. I have seen people live what they consider a perfect life and drop dead (not so perfect). Life can be interrupted by a tradgy that changes everything.  I know this because it happened to my aunt. I got very close to her before she died and she taught me so much about life. What she taught me has carried over not only into everything that I do but also my gambling.

I just presented my view on things and I feel as though I need to share this so you understand the way I think before I share my method of play.

I hope this all made sense, it is hard for me to express what I am thinking through writing.


I will be posting the method that I use sometime before tomorrow morning.


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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 11:18:35 PM
Thanks John, good post :thumbsup:

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 11:39:06 PM
Thanks John, good post :thumbsup:

haha thanks

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 11:39:37 PM

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 11:44:07 PM
Looking forward to it - should be a good read.
Back your judgment.

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Re: my method of playing
June 04, 2009, 11:59:29 PM
Looking forward to it - should be a good read.

haha it is probably nothing new. I think i just built some suspense for something original.

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June 05, 2009, 12:00:16 AM

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June 05, 2009, 01:16:58 AM

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Re: my method of playing
June 05, 2009, 01:53:49 AM
I have three live testing shoes. The first shoe is a basic shoe from Dublin Bet. There are three pages. I as having trouble uploading so I used image shark. I hope it works. I will post the Easiest shoe that i had after I get done uploading the three pages of the the basic shoe. Then I will post the hardest shoe that i have faced yet.





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Re: my method of playing
June 05, 2009, 02:04:50 AM
Here is one of the easiest shoes that I came across while testing. This is a live shoe. I was able to make my 6 units long before the end of the shoe. I followed my rules and stopped playing. There should be two pages.




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Re: my method of playing
June 05, 2009, 02:18:09 AM
Here is the hardest shoe that I came played during testing. it comes from a random number generator from Dublin Bet. I was still able to finish with my 6 units. There should be 3 pages.
 Next post will be about problems that I have with the style I of play.








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Re: my method of playing
June 05, 2009, 02:33:31 AM