What Happens in Any Given Set of 37 Spins? Find Out Here

[celiza427]

Almost done with the .DGT file everybody!  (For anybody interested anyway, haha)

Ooh ooh, me!! *waves hand frantically*  Just letting you know your hard work is appreciated

[rjeaton1]

Ooh ooh, me!! *waves hand frantically*  Just letting you know your hard work is appreciated

As always Celiza, you're a huge source of encouragement!  Thanks! 

Glad to see at least some of the stuff I put up here is read, haha.

[rjeaton1]

I've decided to post the prgram Tangram made for me.  I'm sure there are others that might find it useful.  You can download the file here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=401

[sean43]

Im still eagerly waiting on the RXtreme file aswel! Fantastic stuff again

[winkel]

Hi

I checked your "66K analysed spin"-file

There is something wrong

pls check:

Set #1
21 #s appeared
11 #s 2x
4 #s 3x
1 # 4x

11*2 = 22 spins
4*3 = 12 spins
1*4= 4 spins

That are 38 spins needed in 37spins?

pls check

br
winkel

[winkel]

11*2 = 22 spins
4*3 = 12 spins
1*4= 4 spins

These are 16#s that appeared. That means no number appeared just once.

I checked more lines. No Line gives exact 37 spins if you calculate appearance and spins.

The whole file is wrong.

sorry for that

br
winkel

[rjeaton1]

I appreciate that you took the time to check this thread out Winkel, also that you took the time to see if the file is correct.

It is correct however.  I would type out everything again showing you that it is correct, but I'm just a bit too lazy at the moment to do that (I'm sorry).

If you'd like to understand exactly what you're looking at in that file, I suggest you not only read what I posted on this thread, but also the thread linked to in the beginning of the thread.

Also, just to make it a lot easier to see that the file is correct, I've attached a set of 37 spins in the form of a .txt file.

For you to see that the data produced by this program is correct you'll need to do the following.

Import the spins I've uploaded into RXtreme.  Open up the wheel frequency tracker of RXtreme (unders - Statistics > Wheel Frequency)

Then, before you run those spins, analyze the same file with the program I've uploaded here.  Open up the results in microsoft excel and make sure you are viewing all of the data (a lot of times, the data of X3 and X4 are WAY to the right and you have to scroll to find them)

Alright, now keep the excel file open and use the STEP button of RXtreme to spin one spin at a time (this is VERY important).  You'll see everytime a number doubles, triples, or quadruples it will match exactly to the spin number in the analyzed data.  Also, the number of different numbers will be exactly correct as well.

The way you've done your math in the examples you've posted is flawed. (I'm not picking on you, I just don't want people here in the forum thinking I've been giving out inaccurate information).

I also encourage everybody who thought this file was wrong to go through the steps I've just explained.  You'll see that it is in fact correct.

[winkel]

look at this. It can´t be right.

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Set of 37 Spins Number 0 spins needed 2 3 4
18791 21 54 11 8 2 11*2 8*3 2*4 22+24+8 = 54 spins needed
18792 21 54 11 8 2
52207 21 32 8 4 1
2581 20 50 12 6 2
6530 20 40 9 6 1
6531 20 37 9 5 1
6532 20 36 10 4 1
6533 20 37 9 5 1
13259 20 40 10 4 2
14134 20 50 12 6 2
17126 20 45 15 5 0
17127 20 47 14 5 1
17128 20 48 13 6 1
17129 20 49 13 5 2
18786 20 52 11 6 3
18787 20 50 12 6 2
18788 20 50 12 6 2
18789 20 50 12 6 2
18790 20 51 11 7 2
18793 20 51 11 7 2
18799 20 52 11 6 3
23271 20 47 14 5 1
23272 20 49 13 5 2
23273 20 49 13 5 2
23274 20 37 12 3 1
23275 20 26 10 2 0
23276 20 27 9 3 0
23277 20 27 9 3 0
23278 20 27 9 3 0
23279 20 27 9 3 0
23280 20 28 8 4 0
23281 20 41 9 5 2
23282 20 37 9 5 1
23283 20 37 9 5 1
23284 20 37 9 5 1


first row your index
second row = unhit numbers
third row = needed spins for the result (should be constantly 37)

[rjeaton1]

Here is a quick example:

Lets say the wheel only has 10 numbers and the file analyzes sets of 10 spins.

The next ten numbers are the wheels spin results:

s. #1 - 8
s. #2 - 8
s. #3 - 1
s. #4 - 8
s. #5 - 2
s. #6 - 8
s. #7 - 3
s. #8 - 4
s. #9 - 5
s. #10 - 6

The results would read as follows:

# of Different #'s that appeared: 7

X2: 2 (a number doubled on spin 2)
X3: 4 (a number tripled on spin 4)
X4: 6 (a number appeared 4 times on spin 6)

So, your example would look like this:

1x2= 2
1x3= 3
1x4= 4 +
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      9 spins.  See, it doesn't add up the way you've done the math because of the way the program keeps track of the data and what data it is actually keeping track of.

[rjeaton1]

If you do the steps I mentioned above exactly as I described them you'll find that there are no errors.

[rjeaton1]

Here is another example building of off the first:

Lets say the wheel only has 15 numbers and the file analyzes sets of 15 spins.

The next fifteen numbers are the wheels spin results:

s. #1 - 8
s. #2 - 8
s. #3 - 1
s. #4 - 8
s. #5 - 2
s. #6 - 8
s. #7 - 3
s. #8 - 4
s. #9 - 5
s. #10 - 6
s. #11 - 6
s. #12 - 6
s. #13 - 2
s. #14 - 11
s. #15 - 6

The results would read as follows:

# of Different #'s that appeared: 8

X2: 2, 11 (a number doubled on spin 2 and spin 11)
X3: 4, 12 (a number tripled on spin 4 and spin 12)
X4: 6, 15 (a number appeared 4 times on spin 6 and spin 15)

So, your example would look like this:

2x2= 4
2x3= 6
2x4= 8 +
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       18 spins.  See, it doesn't add up the way you've done the math because of the way the program keeps track of the data and what data it is actually keeping track of.

[sean43]

Have you managed to complete the .dgt file? Thanks

[winkel]

Sorry rejaton

I obviously read the statistics wrong way.

br
winkel

[rjeaton1]

@ Sean>> Still working on it.  I didn't end up paying to have it completed, but I still may.  Sorry about the wait...just messing around with about 40 different things all at the same time.  That and I've been working a lot more lately...

@ Winkel>>  No problem Winkel, like I said originally, I'm glad you came to check this out and make sure it was correct.  I've read a lot of your threads and have the utmost respect for you and your ideas.  Hopefully I didn't come off sounding like a jerk, as I certainly didn't mean too.  So, thank you again for reading this read and taking the time to comment.

[rjeaton1]

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