The 21 Gun Salute

[simon]

this system is harder to play than I thought-- first you have to find the numbers on the wheel, then you have to find the numbers on the betting layout-- definitely enough to give you a headache.  even with a little wheel chart to mark, the marks keep changing, obviously.  bombus, how do you do it? (dry-erase marker on laminated wheel chart?  or no marking necessary, only memory and observation needed?)

[simon]

ok I completed my first test of this system on 75 continuous spins from a real double zeroe wheel, by making 2 flat bets following 3 clean anchors.  winning bets net +15, losing bets are -21.  I had 13 winners and 7 losers for a gain of +48.

If the strategy is based on the 3 latest anchors, then I do not really understand why some of the betting suggestions were to keep making the same bet till you had a loss or two.  Why would you do that?  I will keep testing with 2 flat bets win or lose, but I think this will require a laminated wheel chart and easy erase markers-- it's the only way I can keep identifying the sections to bet.

[celiza427]

this system is harder to play than I thought-- first you have to find the numbers on the wheel, then you have to find the numbers on the betting layout-- definitely enough to give you a headache.  even with a little wheel chart to mark, the marks keep changing, obviously.  bombus, how do you do it? (dry-erase marker on laminated wheel chart?  or no marking necessary, only memory and observation needed?)

I would imagine playing live would be quite hard - tracking & placing bets in the allotted time.  For anyone playing online though, definitely suggest using RXtreme's Wheel Frequency Tracker, setting it to track the last 3 spins.

I am doing an RNG test using RJ's 30K spins from a Vegas Tech casino (can't remember the specific casino @ the moment - the spins are located in our "Actuals" section)  After 200 spins I'm up approx 150 units using the 2 flat bet method.

[simon]

I made a laminated wheel chart, with dry-erase marker and also a card that tells me which section of the wheel the numbers are in, makes it immensely easier to play this system (or at least test it.)  Another 75 spin session from real 00 wheel produced 7 winners and 7 losers for a loss of -42 units.

I am losing faith in this system as it does what every other system I have tested does, first it wins, then it doesn't.  I have 4 more sets of 75 continuous spins from real 00 wheels I will test.

[bombus]

this system is harder to play than I thought-- first you have to find the numbers on the wheel, then you have to find the numbers on the betting layout-- definitely enough to give you a headache.  even with a little wheel chart to mark, the marks keep changing, obviously.  bombus, how do you do it? (dry-erase marker on laminated wheel chart?  or no marking necessary, only memory and observation needed?)

I don't play it enough to have bothered with a laminated chart & dry eraser, but it is a good idea. You track for your 3 anchors visually, and then mark them down once you have them. I use the attached sheet of 9 disc charts, trimmed and folded vertically into 3 sections. Once you get comfortable with the process, you can use each disc at least a few times before scrapping it. So 6 of these folded in your pocket will allow for at least 100 attacks.

If the strategy is based on the 3 latest anchors, then I do not really understand why some of the betting suggestions were to keep making the same bet till you had a loss or two.  Why would you do that?  I will keep testing with 2 flat bets win or lose, but I think this will require a laminated wheel chart and easy erase markers-- it's the only way I can keep identifying the sections to bet.

As for the betting options, presently I would recommend the "flat bet twice & stop" method. The "bet until you lose twice/or lose then bet for 2 more wins or a second loss" method is for when you're feeling lucky, because it can string together 6, 8, even 10 wins in a row, and when it does, you can leave early with a good win. It is also part of my research into the full blown version (21-Gun & Anchors Away) so can't be dismissed as yet.

The fact that betting on in this way might consume the next 3 anchors is of no real significance. It is an illusion to think you have missed anything. There will be plenty more attack points to come on the heels of any you might miss by betting over them.

The "go virtual" method will drive you crazy at times with missed anchors/missed winners, etc, but is very good for instilling discipline in the game. It is also part of the ongoing research.    

Placing bets on 21 numbers is no mean feat, so you need to have a set order of placement, and lots of practice.

For me, the most efficient way to place the bets is to start by placing a chip on the 3 anchors, beginning with the lowest numerical value anchor, and working upwards.

Then I start to the left of the lowest numerical value anchor and place chips on those 3 numbers, beginning with the lowest numerical value, and working upwards. Then I go around the wheel in a clockwise direction placing chips on 3 numbers at a time, always in a lowest to highest numerical value sequence.

I think it is quicker for the brain to process the bets is you unscramble them first in this fashion. It only takes a quick glance at the 3 numbers to put them in numerical order, and then it is easier to find them on the layout.

See the attached example for the order I would place the bets on these anchors. The complete order of pacement is: 3-17-23-12-28-35-0-26-32-2-21-25-6-27-34-8-11-30-5-10-24.

[bombus]

I made a laminated wheel chart, with dry-erase marker and also a card that tells me which section of the wheel the numbers are in, makes it immensely easier to play this system (or at least test it.)  Another 75 spin session from real 00 wheel produced 7 winners and 7 losers for a loss of -42 units.

I am losing faith in this system as it does what every other system I have tested does, first it wins, then it doesn't.  I have 4 more sets of 75 continuous spins from real 00 wheels I will test.

00 impact maybe? Though 450 spins is not very much.

Attached is an RX balance trend for another 500 I did this morning.

You can clearly see the bankroll was slightly down after about 265 spins, then picked up markedly for the remainder of the test.

[bombus]

I would imagine playing live would be quite hard - tracking & placing bets in the allotted time.  For anyone playing online though, definitely suggest using RXtreme's Wheel Frequency Tracker, setting it to track the last 3 spins.

I am doing an RNG test using RJ's 30K spins from a Vegas Tech casino (can't remember the specific casino @ the moment - the spins are located in our "Actuals" section)  After 200 spins I'm up approx 150 units using the 2 flat bet method.

Nice to know someone is giving this a decent test.

Yes, using the RX wheel frequency tracker is a great way to spot the anchors. But to track correctly (not continuously) you must not forget that after each attack is over, you need to spin 3 times before checking for new anchors.

It is a tough game – 21 numbers and all – 30 seconds is too short to play comfortably. If you're not spot on, you will miss out on some numbers first bet, but can always add them in for the second bet. Often that might be a good thing.

Going at a good clip, I can get the bets down in 25 to 40 seconds, but I really think you need 1 minute to play this comfortably, or, dare I say, a bot.

[Proofreaders2000]

Great System Bombus I like how you think

However, I'm thinking in a bot placing 21 chips on the board may not be wise unless there is a trigger (say every 5 to 10 spins or so between wins and losses.)

[simon]

Results of this system from 450 real spins from 6 different real double zeroe wheels:

1st set of 75 continous spins-- W13, L7 = +48

2nd set of 75 continous spins-- W7, L7 = -42

3rd set of 75 continous spins-- W7, L5 = 0

4th set of 75 continous spins-- W11, L4 = +81

5th set of 75 continous spins-- W8, L6 = -6

6th set of 75 continous spins-- W13, L5 = +90

Total is +171.  That's about $28.50/hr.  I'd say that beats working for a living, but this system is and would be a lot of work, and ofcourse you can't count on it.

To quote a University Professor of Mathematics that I have been emailing....

"...Before I get to the problem discussed below, let me note again: since the expected value is negative *each time* one puts a dollar on the table, it does not matter when, where, or according to what method the bets are placed, it does not matter what results have just occurred, and so on – the total expected value is the sum of the individual expected values and will therefore be negative. Period.  This is a long-ago proven theorem of applied mathematics..."

That being said, it's hard to have a lot of faith in this (or any) system, but I will say this much:

Congratulations Bombus on beating my 450 real spins from real double zero wheels!

[sniper]

Hello bombus,

Thanks for your great system. So far it looks profitable. If you don't mind I have a question here for you. I am still not clear regarding how to handle repeaters while we are looking for anchors. Let's say we have 1st anchor no. 15 and 2nd. anchor no. 30, while waiting for 3rd. anchor no.15 repeat. In this case we will remove no. 15, the 1st anchor. What about the 2nd. anchor no.30, do we keep it and continue looking for 2 more anchors or do we remove both and start new?

Regards

sniper

[simon]

"interesting but why a neggative perion must happend?!?!? 
that is not fair."

............. what the heck does that mean?  what were your results?

[bombus]

Hello bombus,

Thanks for your great system. So far it looks profitable. If you don't mind I have a question here for you. I am still not clear regarding how to handle repeaters while we are looking for anchors. Let's say we have 1st anchor no. 15 and 2nd. anchor no. 30, while waiting for 3rd. anchor no.15 repeat. In this case we will remove no. 15, the 1st anchor. What about the 2nd. anchor no.30, do we keep it and continue looking for 2 more anchors or do we remove both and start new?

Regards

sniper

In this case 30 becomes 1st anchor, 15 becomes 2nd anchor, need 1 more anchor. Changing to 30-15 is a bit different from keeping them at 15-30.

If the repeater was 15-30-30, then you keep tracking with just 1 anchor no. 30.

Cheers.

[bombus]

gun salute interesting sistem but we are not in war.
knife salute maybe? 
I`m kidding boys. 

I spent 7. 5 hours testing this sistem. . .
interesting but why a neggative perion must happend?!?!? 
that is not fair.

Well that is the 3 million dollar question right there.

All I can say is, I'm working on it... aka...anchors away...

[sniper]

Hello bombus,

Thanks for your explanation.
Wish you success.

Regards

sniper

[sniper]

Hello bombus,

First number 7 anchor 1, 2nd. number 24 anchor 2 and 3rd. number 14. The 3 rd. anchor number 14 knocks out the anchor 1 and anchor 2. Now we are left with number 14 which will become anchor 1. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks & Regards

sniper

[sniper]

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