Reducing Volatility @ TwoCatSam

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 04:03:41 AM

Yes, please post

lucky_strike · May 23, 2008, 04:11:14 AM

LWWWLWWLWLWWWWWLWLWLWLLWWLLLLLLW


   15      B         15      L BL                   
   20      B      20      H BH       +0        
   17      B         17      L BL BL      -200 -      
   22      B      22      H BH       +0        
36      R      36      H RH RH      +200 +        
5      R         5      L RL      +0      
16      R         16      L RL      +0        
7      R         7      L RL      +0      
   26      B      26      H BH      +0         
   8      B         8      L BL BL      +200 +        
25      R      25      H RH RH      +200 +
12      R         12      L RL      +0        
   17      B         17      L BL        +200      
   35      B      35      H BH    +0            
   24      B      24      H BH    +0         
   2      B         2      L BL    -200 -         
   24      B      24      H BH      +0         
   22      B      22      H BH      +0         
   24      B      24      H BH      +0         
   31      B      31      H BH      +0      
14      R         14      L RL      +0         
19      R      19      H RH RH +200 +            
16      R         16      L RL      +0         
   17      B         17      L BL BL +200 +            
   8      B         8      L BL BL -200 -               
12      R         12      L RL       +0         
7      R         7      L RL      +0      
34      R      34      H RH RH +200 +               
1      R         1      L RL      +0      
19      R      19      H RH RH -200 -            
   17      B         17      L BL BL +200 +            
   31      B      31      H BH      +0      
32      R      32      H RH RH +200 +               
   13      B         13      L BL BL +200 +            
5      R         5      L RL      +0
9      R         9      L RL      +0
30      R      30      H RH RH +200 +               
   13      B         13      L BL BL +200 +            
   22      B      22      H BH    +0               
  0      Z       0      Z ZZ      -200 -             
36      R      36      H RH RH +200 +               
1      R         1      L RL    +0            
36      R      36      H RH RH      -200 -         
   33      B      33      H BH    +0            
   29      B      29      H BH      +0      
   29      B      29      H BH      +0      
   4      B         4      L BL BL +200 +               
18      R         18      L RL    +0               
   24      B      24      H BH      +0         
7      R         7      L RL      +0      
  0      Z       0      Z ZZ      -200 -             
   22      B      22      H BH      +0         
21      R      21      H RH RH +200 +            
36      R      36      H RH RH -200 -               
5      R         5      L RL    +0            
  0      Z       0      Z ZZ      -200 -       
   2      B         2      L BL BL +200 +              
7      R         7      L RL    +0            
   28      B      28      H BH      +0         
   26      B      26      H BH      +0         
   24      B      24      H BH      +0         
   20      B      20      H BH      +0         
   33      B      33      H BH      +0      
23      R      23      H RH RH +200 +            
   29      B      29      H BH      +0      
   35      B      35      H BH      +0      
   31      B      31      H BH      +0      
   22      B      22      H BH      +0         
21      R      21      H RH RH -200 -            
25      R      25      H RH RH -200 -            
14      R         14      L RL    +0               
12      R         12      L RL    +0               
   33      B      33      H BH      +0      
25      R      25      H RH RH -200 -            
21      R      21      H RH RH -200 -            
5      R         5      L RL      +0      
12      R         12      L RL      +0         
25      R      25      H RH RH -200 -      
   28      B      28      H BH      +0         
19      R      19      H RH RH -200 -            
   26      B      26      H BH      +0         
14      R         14      L BL BL +200 +

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 04:27:03 AM

Ok, let do the session this way.

Only bet R/O or B/E
If the entry point is R, bet B/E
If the entry point is B, bet R/O
Alternate bets with R/O and B/E on each win or loss
if a break even result its same as last bet

lucky_strike · May 23, 2008, 04:29:31 AM

Okay will back soon with the results :-?

Cheers LS

lucky_strike · May 23, 2008, 05:27:51 AM

Well i want to know if i am doing it correct before i continue to run them for the long run, tests!

Code Select



5 SPINS +400

21      R      21      H            
   11      B         11      L BL +200            
   31      B      31      H RH            
27      R      27      H RH +200            

18 SPINS +400

12      R         12      L               
27      R      27      H            
34      R      34      H BL -200               
21      R      21      H RH +200            
12      R         12      L BL +0               
   33      B      33      H BL +0            
   17      B         17      L BL +200            
   31      B      31      H RH +0            
   10      B         10      L RH -200               
16      R         16         L BL +0                     
   13      B         13      L BL +200            
   2      B         2      L RH -200               
   22      B      22      H RH +0               
30      R      30      H RH +200               
18      R         18      L BL +0               
36      R      36      H BL -200               
30      R      30      H RH +200               
   6      B         6      L BL +200               

9 SPINS -400

   13      B         13      L            
   4      B         4      L RH -200               
   17      B         17      L BL +200            
   24      B      24      H RH +0               
36      R      36      H RH +200               
34      R      34      H BL -200               
14      R         14      L RH +0               
   8      B         8      L RH -200               
27      R      27      H BL -200            

6 SPINS +400

23      R      23      H            
7      R         7      L BL +0            
   11      B         11      L BL +200            
   10      B         10      L RH -200               
   13      B         13      L BL +200            
30      R      30      H RH +200               

8 SPINS +400

18      R         18      L               
   17      B         17      L            
   22      B      22      H RH +0               
18      R         18      L RH +0               
12      R         12      L RH +0               
   28      B      28      H RH +0               
19      R      19      H RH +200            
   8      B         8      L BL +200

Cheers Lucky Strike

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 05:36:59 AM

You are including High/Low for the double EC bet with Red/Black. I was asking for Odd/Even as the double bet. You can do it that way. But we have to establish which combinations are the greatest and the smallest, so that we bet on the dominant groups from the High/Low. The dominant groups in o/e is R/O and B/E.
How many
BL #s
BH #s
RL #s
RH #s

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 05:48:48 AM

Also, you can use the sample spins in reply 36, to get the following results for validation of the method rules before doing extensive test run:
Table 2 +400 in 9 spins
Table 3 +400 in 5 spins
Table 4 +400 in 7 spins
Table 5 (-400) in 11 spins

I'm about to go to bed

lucky_strike · May 23, 2008, 06:52:19 AM

Well this is the result i get...

+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
-200 L
-200 L
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
-200 L
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
-200 L
+200 W
-200 L
-200 L Zero
+200 W
+200 W
+200 W
-200 L
-200 L
+200 W
+200 W
-200 L
+200 W

Cheers LS

TwoCatSam · May 23, 2008, 11:19:13 AM

I've been giving this a lot of thought from the purely logical point of view and I'm seriously doubting if there is anything there. Yes, we reduce volatility, but we also reduce our winning percentage. We now have a 50/50 chance of winning with a greater house edge. Playing just red we have a lesser chance of winning with a lesser house edge.

I spent many, many hours on a system using three ECs years ago only to find this same conclusion. I thought MC had found what I was looking for, but I really don't think he has.

As Lucky said, you win one/lose one and finally win all three or lose all three. Mathematically it will shake out a loser in the end. At least it did for me.

Someone named kawa has posted a system of numbers I'm going to go chase for a while.

Sam

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 11:32:51 AM

@Sam, enjoy that system is looking interesting. However, I will say this, I believe, because their is limited voliatity you as a player have less than in result and because their is less change is win/loss, you can play til you have desire result, that is the whole point. I hope.
Also, this way my quote:"Wouldnt that be win one -lose two or win two - lose one or win three or loss three possibilities? " If this is what you were referring to.

LS, here you go

Table1 (+400)
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 20 B E Entry point
2 1 R O RO 200
3 9 R O BE -200
4 12 R E RO 0
5 25 R O RO 200
6 13 B O BE 0
7 18 R E BE 0
8 4 B E BE 200
9 6 B E 400

Table 2 (+400) within 5 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 13 B O ep
2 28 B E RE 0
3 24 B E RE 0
4 18 R E RE 0
5 6 B E RE 200
6 25 R O BO 0
7 27 R O BO 0
8 5 R O BO 0
9 35 B O BO 200
10 34 R E 400

Table 3 (+400) within 5 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 24 B E ep
2 14 R E RO 0
3 33 B O RO 0
4 31 B O RO 0
5 7 R O RO 200
6 6 B E BE 200
7 35 B O 400

Table 4 (+400) Within 13 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 29 B O ep
2 23 R O RE 0
3 35 B O RE -200
4 13 B O BO 200
5 24 B E RE 0
6 11 B O RE -200
7 17 B O BO 200
8 17 B O RE -200
9 7 R O BO 0
10 23 R O BO 0
11 11 B O BO 200
12 14 R E RE 200
13 35 B O BO 200
14 12 R E 400

Table 5 (-400) within 9 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 2 B E ep
2 27 R O RO 200
3 12 R E BE 0
4 25 R O BE -200
5 27 R O RO 200
6 0 G BE -200
7 29 B O RO 0
8 26 B E RO -200
9 23 R O BE -200
10 23 R O -400

Hopefully, you have the idea now.
Bloom

TwoCatSam · May 23, 2008, 12:41:30 PM

bloom

Sorry about giving your quote to Lucky. Frankly, my mind is about to go on this---if it hasn't already!!

I sincerely hope you are right and I will be watching the posts and studying them carefully.

Sam

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 02:24:15 PM

Ok, this a live spin sample session an my independent dataset

Table 3: 1/1/08 (+400) within 6 spins

0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds
1 5 R O ep
2 31 B O BE 0
3 31 B O BE 0
4 10 B E BE 200
5 27 R O RO 200
6 4 B E wait 400u
Reset and Continued session with next 4 spins (+400)
7 15 B O ep
8 20 B E RE 0
9 35 B O BO 200
10 12 R E RE 200
11 27 R O 400u
Summary: 800u in 10 spins ..total 800 u
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 02:45:18 PM

Ok guys, well I dont know if I am posting to myself at this point, since the Master MC is gone. I certainly wish he would come back. Anyway, I think I've come up with another concept to add to the method that can be used within a system. Modifying the the LW registry to L0W registry. This will enable you see patterns within the compound structure we've built. I'm just thinking outside the box. Ignoring the mainstay rules and creating mine own. Along as it doesnt conflict with math and can be used as a tool for mathematical application. This is certainly an example.

L0W Registry Legend
L=loss (negative unit)
0=breakeven (zero unit)
W=win (positive unit)
Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 02:54:27 PM

Table 2 (+400) within 5 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds L0W
1 13 B O ep
2 28 B E RE 0 0
3 24 B E RE 0 0
4 18 R E RE 0 0
5 6 B E RE 200 W
6 25 R O BO 0 0
7 27 R O BO 0 0
8 5 R O BO 0 0
9 35 B O BO 200 W
10 34 R E 400

L0W registry: 000w000w. Do you see a pattern there. I do...lol

Table 3 (+400) within 5 spins
0 Spins blank RBG Evens/Odds L0W
1 24 B E ep
2 14 R E RO 0 0
3 33 B O RO 0 0
4 31 B O RO 0 0
5 7 R O RO 200 W
6 6 B E BE 200 W
7 35 B O 400

L0W registry: 000ww. Do you see a pattern there. I do...lol

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 03:08:48 PM

Modified Rules
Ok, let do the session this way.

First Session Bet is opp of entry point
Alternate the opp bet on each win or loss
if a break even result, its same as last bet
If stop win goal is achieved, skip a spin and wait for next spin entry point trigger
Apply the L0W registry where needed

Bloom

bloomone2002 · May 23, 2008, 03:08:48 PM

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