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Thomas Grant Scam

Started by Spike, July 04, 2009, 04:50:25 AM

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Quote from: Number Six on July 04, 2009, 08:02:35 PM
I have seen you write numerous times that the bot will only win with the right settings. This is a joke. No amount of tweaking can turn a losing system into a winner.

N6 are you telling me you have no strategy for your gameplay? Of course you need to use the correct settings, it is not hard coded, but configured by the user, dependant on available bank roll, level of risk and strategy played.

Quote from: Number Six
It's ignorance of the very highest order. Twocat actually lost 430 euros in ONE sitting. That is 43,000 units. It is utterly stupid. Those figures alone are enough to suggest that your systems are completely impractical. I mean, seriously, I couldn't lose 43,000 units if I TRIED!

More fallacious information from you N6, Sam was not playing .01 units at the time.

Quote from: Number Six
Lastly, that you don't know the difference between a roulette system and a strategy also proves you are largely clueless.

Once again you need to resort to personal attacks and insults to emphasise a point, which displays an inability to put forth a point of view in a constructive, educated manner.

The software is designed to be used as an investment tool, but you would know this as you seem to know so much about something you have no experience with. I have never deviated from the purpose of the software. Do you know how investments work N6? It is not about taking 100 units and coming out with 150. It is about having a 1000 unit bank and making 50 - 100 units a day. Some days wont be as profitable but most days will. You don't enter the share market with $100 and expect to make much if any profit. $10,000 is more like a starting base and if after 1 year you have made half that you have done remarkably well. With a 1000E bank roll, you can comfortably and reliably make 50 to 100E a day each and every day. The key to making repetitive gains is having the neccessary bank roll and being patient.

Tom is well over 2000E now - ooohh I forgot, he is not a credible enough individual  8)

Matt

Number Six

It is an unviable investment. Buy it. Lose. My gameplay IS a strategy. Yours is a system. No comprende? No.

I have never insulted or "attacked" you. If that were the case I would have been warned. Can you hear a violin playing softly in the background? Please wipe your nose and get a grip.

With a 1000E bank roll, you can comfortably and reliably make 50 to 100E a day each and every day
There is absolutely no way you can guarantee that. This is scammer talk.

he is not a credible enough individual
Correct

Sam was not playing .01 units at the time
Even if he was using 0.20 chips a 2150 complete loss is still lunacy. (Sorry, yes, faulty connection, right? Dodgy settings? What else can you blame the bot's failure on? Shifting tides? Voodoo? Bilderberg? The Papal State?)

Spike

On the Super Roulette page you state that when you 'discovered NO-ZERO roulette' you 'won every game, 100-150 units per session'.

This is baloney. Taking out the zero makes no difference whatsoever in how much you win, unless you're playing right at the house edge. And the edge is still there, with or without the zero. It comes from the unequal payouts if you win. 3/1 bets pay 2/1, 36/1 pays 35/1, etc. The EC's have fair payouts, but removing the zero makes no difference unless you're playing right around 50/50, and thats not winning, is it. If you're winning 100-150 units per session, the zero counts for nothing in the scheme of things.

Odd that you think it does, its almost like you don't know the game at all. Or its all baloney. Either way, the bot doesn't do what you say it does, its mathematically impossible.

Tangram

The zero makes a huge difference if you're playing a relatively simple mechanical system. The overall bankroll trend will be down, but with no zero you can take your profit on the upturns (although the drawdowns will be large). I wouldn't use a bot, but I can believe you'd make money on a no-edge game IF you have an adequate bankroll. The other edge the casino has is the fact that its bankroll is so much bigger than that of the punter, and even without the zero it will still win long-term. In real-life, Goliath always beats David.  ;D

Number Six

You can't outspend a casino. The no zero is something of a gimmick. If everyone breaks even in the long run how does the casino stay in business? Because of progression systems. It's where people lose. If no system will win long term and super-roulette is a system, what is the point in buying it?

brian51

Hi is there any updates on Roulettebot Pro yet,i am just loosing money all the time no matter what settings i use

Spike

The zero makes a huge difference>>

The only way the zero makes a difference is if you're playing close to even, and whats the point of that.You can use a progression but they will always bust you in the end, so again, whats the point.

Spike

Thomas Grant says: Well here is my biggest pay day so far.
It says €500 but it came to €450 after trans fees Thank you Matt for making this possible.>>

LOL! Bot's don't work people, don't be scammed. You can't beat random with a bot or any mechanical system. Don't say you weren't warned.

TwoCatSam

Hoo Boy

What a mess I've caused! 

I can't deny a word Number6 has said because I said just what he said I said.  I am now down 188 Euro.  I have not lost 188 Euro.  Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, I am learning fascinating things about numbers and the directions they take.  I am finally convinced there is a fair RNG and that's Bet Voyager.  Their numbers are produced by some kind of sampling of mosquito farts in Nairobi or something like that.  Absolutely, 100% random!  (Talk about a lightning rod!)

Anyway, Thomas Grant is not a liar.  He has blown 30 Euro into 2,010 and I am rightly jealous.  I wish I could do it and I don't quite understand how he does it.  I think he bets big.

Matt is not a liar or a scammer.  Neither is Tiago or any of the rest of us. You gents can believe what you want.  I said I would tell you the truth and I have.  If I told you the truth about what I've lost in the good ol' U.S. stock market, well---you'd really call me a liar then.  I don't hear anyone moaning for me over that!

Sam


murph

am loveing this super roulette was a joke from day one another supper bot i love a good laugh ...  :lol:

TwoCatSam

Thomas Grant has turned 30E into 3000E using Super Roulette.  He has made videos and posted them for his "cronies" to view.  Folks, like him or not, he's got the evidence and he didn't fake it.

I'm kinda starting to hate him!

Sam

Spike

The only way you can know the evidence isn't faked is if you were standing right there when he did it. Were you? I can make videos all day long that make it look like I'm doing whatever I want, anybody can.

TwoCatSam

No, Spike, I wasn't standing next to him.  He's in Australia and I'm in Oklahoma.  I could use TeamViewer to watch his bot running, but I don't need to.  I trust him.

Sam

TwoCatSam

Might as well put this here as there are far too many threads on this forum now.  We should attempt to limit the number of threads and combine like information in a single thread.

Let us liken the bot to moving a load of bricks.  A forklift sets down a thousand pounds of bricks all neatly bound with steel straps and cardboard.  Even the hulk would have a chore carrying that load away, but even Pee Wee Herman can carry a brick at a time.  Just cut the steel straps and start carrying bricks.  It will take you ages, but you can move the whole stack.

Such it is with a bot.  What you cannot humanly do sitting before a computer for 1469 spins, the bot does tirelessly.  That is the number of spins it took for me to earn 5E today.  I could--I suppose--sit there for that long but I doubt it.  I couldn't carry that stack of bricks either.

What the bot does is let you reduce your bet (brick load) to one you can manage and then carry them over time.

I could have used a lever analogy with the fulcrum and plank and how you move more with a long plank and the fulcrum closer to the load, but I seem to like bricks today.

I'll probably get a few thrown my way now!

Sam

keops

I wonder if any experienced player still believes in the fairy-tail of bots and the hundreds of dollares they give for certain.  I'm almost sure not.

Problem is the new players this people fool and make them waste money on their software.  My friend was one of them, wasting money on the famous sniper roulette against our advice and losing more money (as expected).

If you know a person like I do that works in a casino for 15 years, you know this is plain rubbish.  There is no money guaranteed system in roulette, and if it did exist they wouldn't share it/sell it to you.  Why sell a bot for 99$ and risk that the casino finds out when you could keep it for yourself and never work again, only living with the profit of the bot?

This man and the people who tell the wonderful benefits of the bot are nothing but people hired by the owner, winning a share of the sales.  Don't believe me? I wouldn't like to see more people go bankrupt because of these players, but you can give it a try.  I bet with you that it won't be a nice experience and the fault will be always be yours, or you didn't do it right, or the system isn't 100% effective (it only is for people like Thomas), etc. . .

keops

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