Kiddo's System #1

[kiddo]

This is a warning to impatient or emotional players. If your stomach turns from losing 1500 in ($50 chips) and you get emotional and careless NONE of my systems will work for you. Once you lose concentration you lose the game.


I have several baccarat systems ranging from simple to extremely complex, reason why I have so many? the complex systems work with well will only lose money every 6.7 shoes and it loses about 15 to 30 units (average 10-18 units/winning shoe) over all averages 7 units per shoe played long term. The simple ones are more hit and run styles and are not for long term play. Some casinos will not let you bring your own chart in with you while others let you. the ones that don't, you cannot use the complex methods and for the time being I will not be posting it I am coming up on year 2 with the complex method I want to see how long these averages hold out. Majority of my systems require a high bankroll. I believe in baccarat it is very hard to win a large amount without some sort of progression. Many will say I'm wrong but I have yet to see a flat bet system that wins LONG TERM.

My first system (HIT AND RUN literally)
**Dynamic Averages**
BANKROLL REQUIRED: 60 times your unit size ($5 unit = $300 bankroll, $500 unit = $30000 bankroll, etc)
NOTE: DO NOT PLAY THIS SYSTEM if you see a really SKEWED 10+ count of player/banker over the other AS WELL AS a shoe where you get repeat 5B+ or 5P+ streaks (2 or more sets of 5+ in a row streaks). Your chances of hitting a losing an event are HIGH.
As the name states you will be tracking averages and playing the HOT sides.
Take the average of the last 4 outcomes, play a 4 step limited martingale progression [1,2,4,8] (15 units risk) on the outcome with the highest amount of wins in the last 4 hands.

BBBPBBPPPBPTBPPPPBTBTBPTBPBBBPBBPBBB

this is the outcome of a shoe I played recently (4 decks Century Casino)
this is how I track it
1  2  3  4   5
B  B  B  B   P
B  P  P  B   B
B  P  P  B   B
P  P  P  P    B
B  B  P  B   P
   P           B            

alright so lets explain here.
An event is 4 outcomes (IE: the first 4 outcomes are BBBP)
Because banker won 3/4, you will play a LIMITED 4 step progression on the next 4 BANKS
as you can see you win on the first play, now the OUTCOME you DO NOT INCLUDE when you retrack.
IF you get a 50/50 split between bank/player do not play. Do not track ties.

very simple, wins big and averages really good. I usually use this method and play it until I win 5 units or lose 15. You will see a losing streak of about 1 in 4 shoes long term average. I do not want to scan all the 12 note books I have of shoes that I tested with this method, that is what it averages on the long term. Not once have I dipped below the original 60 units with this method. Then again this is hit and run, if you sit there all night you are GUARANTEED to lose at east once. For me this is when I need some quick cash for a date or something I will play this method with 500 or 1000 units. This method is now widely used among the baccarat players I have taught... I kinda miss the company, everyone just play hit and run at the casinos now, there are no more 9 hour days at the baccarat table chasing even or trying to make money anymore.

There is another simple system I am working on right now. I will not post until I have tested it further and fine tuned it. But its something to be excited about. Starting bankroll $1600 in $5 units, after 20 shoes (4 days of playing) my bankroll is $7375 in $5 units, has only one shoe where it was not positive (lost 2 units aka 10 bucks lol). It might be even stronger then my complex but who knows I must spend more time at the casino testing it.

As for my complex system because it was a group of us that developed it I will need full agreement from the other 3 people before I can post it.

there are a few other systems I play but I will post when I have more time right now I need to go test some more haha it gets me all giddy

[lucky_strike]

Thanks for sharing.
Is this correct that when you have 3/4 then you play the dominant side?

1
B
B
B
P
B W

2  
B  
P  
P  
P  
B L
P  W          

3  
B  
P  
P  
P  
P  W

4    
B    
B  
B  
P    
B  W  
   
5
P
B
B
B
P L
B W

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Cheers LS            

[kiddo]

that is correct it works surprisingly well

[caddy]

Kiddo,

Referring to the best 3 of 4 system, if you win do you wait for a completely new group of 4 decisions before starting play again?

Or do you continue play with the last 4 decisions no matter what?

Caddy

[JLP]

Kiddo,

Referring to the best 3 of 4 system, if you win do you wait for a completely new group of 4 decisions before starting play again?

Or do you continue play with the last 4 decisions no matter what?

Caddy

Hi caddy,
"Because banker won 3/4, you will play a LIMITED 4 step progression on the next 4 BANKS
as you can see you win on the first play, now the OUTCOME you DO NOT INCLUDE when you retrack.
IF you get a 50/50 split between bank/player do not play. Do not track ties".

As I understand it you stop and wait for another 4 outcomes to track and then play next or not depending if the conditions are done.

Cheers,
JLP.-

[hermes]

I tried it yesterday on RNG and it won easily. It is important to start always new 4 hand not include any from the previous 4 hands because you will recognize this way easily streak coming and prevent to bet next 4 hands the progression on opposite streak. The 5+ is a good warning not to bet. I am looking forward for your new system you said about. Kiddo, good work. I think the progression could be made more secure and more durable (Labouchere? Midas? Whittaker?)
Hermes

[StarStar]

nice system. im goin to try it in rng and casino...

By d way, can u post your second system?

[hermes]

Look for the mirror system from Mr.Martingale on roulette thread. It works even better on baccarat.
Hermes

[StarStar]

Hermes, can u give me the link??

i cant find it

[Matilda]

Hermes

I also would like the link
Matilda

[MXkid77]

I think it's in this thread nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/why-i-love-the-martingale/ reply #11.

hermes, question, playing the RNG's, how do you get to track without betting, you have to bet to get the cards to deal, or do you uses a minimum bet "dummy chip" to roll the table and then bet with a bigger unit when it'S time?

[VICLIMKS]

izit that good the mirror system???

[lucky_strike]

Hi VICLIMKS.

It will work and it will fail.
You could have some fun playing that way.

The best thing you could do is to make a test, its a great way of learning.

If you want my opinion then i can only tell you that the mirror strategy is a dead end where you will lose more then you win.

Cheers LS

[kiddo]

heyyyyy guys sorry disappeared for alittle while haha hope the system was working out okay for you guys theres a couple things I need to update you guys on the system I spoke about (2nd one) works well but requires decent bankroll 100+ units.

System #2
watch the tables and the decks (if they reuse the decks) look for a very biased deck. ie: real streaky or real choppy. then you just bet the hand before the last using a 1,2,3,5,8,13,21 progression. its really simple and works stunningly well. if you lose 4 in a row you stop and wait till the shoe has 2 wins. rinse and repeat. You will not get a win rate over 75% its impossible because 25% of the shoe will be the 2,2 pattern. an easy way to track the 2s is if you have a bb->p or pp->b you stop and wait for the storm to blow by or switch and play the twos. usually thought the twos are dangerous to bet on. easy way to know if the 2,2s are gonna repeat every 4 jumps from p->b or b->p there should be atleast one set of twos, do not mistake it with two or more its just two like PP or BB. its really simple and I like it but it does not allow for large units to be played which kind of sucks...

oh and another thing. the post with zuan on it. his system is very close to the one I use on a regular basis where I play large 500-1000 units. Have confidence in his work. Making 3-5 bets per shoe might be boring. but when you are winning 90% of the bets you make you can leave fast and not have to play progressions. I have an article from an ebook that I would love to share with you guys. It teaches you about a money management strategy that many people use. Including me, I use this strategy when I'm gambling and when I'm trading forex. its very conservative.

Though the second file the 279kb one is focused more on forex trading. the ideals it teaches can be applied to ANY type of risk associated money management strategies and can definitely relate to baccarat.

A gambler is a player that bets against the shoe and dreams of a good outcome. A player is one that analyzes the shoe and goes where the shoe is going.

[Matilda]

Thanks for the reply Kiddo

Would really like a test example of actuals if you can.
And anymore systems you have would love to look at them.  Am having a good run with your "Dynamic Averages" at our local casino.

Matilda

[Matilda]

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