An idea for 2010!

[elmo]

Guys, I have an idea which could give some of you a great adventure and at the same time also help the forum along with some of the costs towards keeping us in good shape.

I would consider myself a semi-professional roulette player in as much as I don't play full time hours.
I also mostly play online nowadays because bad health prevents me from getting out as much to land based casinos.
I play at three live online casinos where I have made a profit every week for the last year playing my "dealers signature/dynamic numbers" approach.
Because of the time I have to place bets, it would be possible for me to relay my bets through the chat function and some of you could follow along and play at the same time.
The proviso would be that each month we all put a fraction of the cost between us to cover the upkeep of the forum.
I will NEVER reveal my method to anybody for obvious reasons but that does not mean that some of you can't come along for the ride.
If you live in a country where internet gambling is prohibited, then unfortunately there is no way for you to take part and for that I am sorry.
What I would like to do is play for an average 2-3 hours an evening for say 4/5 days a week. This would be sufficient to make a decent profit each week and keep everyone happy (except the casinos  )
I will keep a daily record of the transactions and the profits that I personally make and there is nothing to stop anybody just seeing how things go before they decide if it is something they would like to join in on.
There is NO charge from my end. I play anyway and it makes no difference to me. After a while the casinos may cotton on but we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

In the meantime this is just a suggestion, if some of you like the idea, fine, if you think it is a bad idea, also fine and no harm done.

[elmo]

I will do a trial week starting from monday 14th december.
My aim each week is to double the bankroll. I will be starting with 100 units.
It is all done flat betting. I use 4 streams of data which directs me to the hottest number.
I think a lot of people go wrong in how they interpret what a hot number is, how to look for it, and eventually how to play it.
For example 17 might be the hot number to play on one particular spin but on the next spin you might have to change the bet to 29 if circumstances dictate. In other words no two spins are alike and getting stuck on numbers will kill your bankroll. Nothing should really be predetermined in the game of roulette.

[TwoCatSam]

What casino?

[elmo]

Hello Sam,
I have 2 live casinos in mind where I can alternate the play each session.

1) Dublinbet.

2) Smartlivecasino.

I will not play at any PLAYTECH casinos and obviously RNG is out of the question.

The minimum bets at dublinbet are 0.50 euro per number and at smartlive 1.00 euro per number.
I will be playing either splits, ie.. 14/17 or straight up numbers, ie.. 14 and 17. No streets, quads, double streets, dozens or even chances.

[elmo]

It is possible to relay it since I am playing just one or 2 bets. One of the casinos has a good minute between spins and the other offers just under a minute. Enough time to get the bets down.
A 100 chip bankroll at 0.50 euro is 50 EURO and a 100 chip bankroll at 1.00 euro is 100 EURO.
There are no progressions or anything to break the bank. In fact I do not bet on every spin and will be looking to make just over 25% return on the bankroll per session. So winning 4/5 sessions will more or less double the bankroll. One session a week might result in a break even game and the others will be winners. I have never lost a bankroll at a session with my method. If there are losses in any session, they will be small. There is also the potential to hit the weekly target in one session but it does not happen often. When you have good luck with a winning method, you can quickly reach your weekly target.

[GogoCro]

Why not Bet365 live?

[TwoCatSam]

Thanks elmo.  I am on Skype and would love to peek in at Dublin.  Don't know if I can see SL or not.  I will check and see.

Just out of curiosity... do you feel the Playtech live wheels are not fair?

Sam

[poxet pool]

Cry in my beeeerrr..im u s a..good ideal u have elmo..a win win opportunity..good stuff...

[Carlitos]

Now thats an great idea  !! Instead of bragging about systems which most of the time are full of hot air...... why not create an way were forum members can get along for the ride......... The forum would be more active........ Off course everything would be at your own risk.......



Tell Victor about it!! I think he would be intrested......... And the forum could have more then 1 chat room, members then can choose which player the want to get along with!!


Excellent idea Elmo!!



Carlitos 

[elmo]

GogoCro and Sam,
Bet365 is part of the PLAYTECH group. I am in profit over the last year with casinos who are provided software by PLAYTECH, but here is what started happening recently.

When I placed a bet that would have took me into profit for that particular session, the software said that placing my bet had been unsuccessful. If this just happened once, I would probably just brush it off but when it happened on several occasions at a few different PLAYTECH casinos, It really got me thinking.

So I complained about this and was told that it was unfortunate but there was nothing that could be done about it. One of them even offered to close my account for me if I wished 

So naturally I was going to be watching out for this in future. What happened then was that the timer went from giving me about 45 seconds to place a bet down to about 10 seconds.

In my opinion there is a delay in the broadcast which gives the software enough time to decide how it is going to react to your bet.
ie.. either accept it or reject it depending on your current situation and probably your overall situation with that particular casino. Sometimes it is not just about what you see, it is about what you feel as well.

Poxet pool,
I am sorry mate, it is a bummer that there is this restriction on internet gambling. I don't know why the powers that be can't set up some kind of live regulated games from a land based casino similar to dublinbet and allow people to play if they wish.

Carlitos,
Thanks, it would be great if the casinos can pay for the upkeep of the forum. You are right to point out that there is risk involved and no form of gambling comes without that element. I had though about this a few weeks ago when the chat box was up and running and thought I could just tell people where I was playing and tell them what I was betting. That way they could follow along if they wanted and have a game. I don't know if that feature is coming back or not but the other chat room is still going and I suppose I could relay my action there. I suppose we will see how it goes and if it takes off. The idea of another chatroom for live gaming sounds good.

[elmo]

I am happy to put 50% of the profits that I personally make this week towards the target that Victor is looking to meet for this month.

[GogoCro]

Ok, you answered about Playtech, its really odd. (Never happen to me.)

Maybe is probably easier to give you money and you can then play with it without strugle with chat and other things.
Ofcourse, some issue with trust must be reloved first.

Gogo

[elmo]

Hello GogoCro,
It is entirely possible that it has all been coincidence and that I have just been unfortunate on a few occasions to miss out on a winning bet. In fact overall the fact that I am up suggests that everything is mostly above board but sometimes I just get that nagging feeling about them in particular.
It is always a good thing to be a little bit cagey with these places and keep alert to what is happening.

I will not be able to play on anybody elses behalf using their money. I don't know who is going to take part in this but if one of the mods decides to get involved or someone you personally know, then it may be possible that you could arrange something with them.
I would not really recommend lumping all the bets together on just a few accounts either because that is when you may encounter problems with the software like I mentioned above or also have accounts closed down for continued winning.

[Kingpin]

Hi Elmo,

Nice idea mate.
I would like to join in on it.
At what timwe on monday will you start your session?
And what chatroom will you be using?

Best regards
Kingpin

[VLSroulette]

Hello,

This is a most fantastic idea and I'll be very glad to create a room at out chat for it (say, "Win at Elmo's" or any other name wanted).


Awaiting further commands...

[VLSroulette]

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