What about trying hypnosis techniques on the dealer?

[Mr J]

@GARNabby >>"as some fairly-accurate adjectives become Anagram's next target" >> This I have no idea what you're talking about. Second, the reason for so many links is what? You posting a link to a thread at RF..ok, so what? Is there a question with this soup or do I also get crackers?

"Is there no message-board you aren't constanly on?" >>> Constantly means what? I'm on 5.5 boards, in terms of roulette. Is that bad, are you pissed at me? As far as NETTING more than you (roulette) there's no question about it, not even close, sorry. Should I brag? Probably not a good choice, my fault. Ken

[Mr J]

Thank you Manaman for your reply, very cool.  Ken

[GARNabby]

@GARNabby >>"as some fairly-accurate adjectives become Anagram's next target" >> This I have no idea what you're talking about. Second, the reason for so many links is what? You posting a link to a thread at RF..ok, so what? Is there a question with this soup or do I also get crackers?

"Is there no message-board you aren't constanly on?" >>> Constantly means what? I'm on 5.5 boards, in terms of roulette. Is that bad, are you pissed at me? As far as NETTING more than you (roulette) there's no question about it, not even close, sorry. Should I brag? Probably not a good choice, my fault. Ken

Hey little "j" (for "johno"),

Wow, I guess that "you're up next" left me really "shaking in my boots".

And hanging on your every word waiting for you to tell us all also when you're "taking a cr*p".  Lol.

[Mr J]

"Hey little "j" (for "johno")" >>> I dont know what that means. If you have an issue with him, talk to him. For all you mods/Steve...I dont want to hear about "Ken the trouble maker". This guy keeps on going (no warning) so I ASSUME the rules are for all? Its a SHAME I have to NOW include disclaimers for posters attacking me. Ken

[GARNabby]

Sadly hypnosis dos'nt work that way! ALL HYPNOSIS IS SELF HYPNOSIS! the hypnotist doing a stage hypnosis show needs the permission of the audience members that take part in the show (usually the easily suggestable people are picked before the show starts) because you CAN NOT HYPNOTIZE A PERSON TO DO SOMETHING AGAIST THEIR WILL!

Now take a hypnotherapist for example, If he/she had a client that wanted to give up smoking and the hypnotherapist suggested to the client that he/she instead of lighting a fag and putting it to thier mouth, instead lit it and put it in thier eye( lit side first), do you think the hypnothearipsts suggestion would have much power of the sub-conscious mind? NO, because it would most defently be agaist the sub-conscious minds inbuilt protection system.   (the same system that makes you instantly without thinking put your hands over your head if some shouts "WATCH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!"

I've had  hypnotherapy to give up smoking,and the guy had a 95% success rate, I quit (1 session)after 13 years solid smoking,BUT, had I not been ready to quit, no suggestion would of worked! and I proved this because as I so thrilled at the results,I told my best mate at the time who had only smoked for 5 years and he booked up, now he said he wanted to quit(consciosly that is) but sub-sconsciously was not ready and went to have the treatment but it never worked! the hypnotherapist charged £250 backed up by unlimted free follow up sessions if the first was uncusessful, anyway, he went back 3 times and gave up on given up,and still smokes to this day.  

So simply put: For hypnosis to work, the persons sub-conscious mind thats being hypnotized needs accept the suggestion given to it to be able act on it,hence what I said earlier.   .   .    ALL HYPNOSIS IS SELF HYPNOSIS!

You cannot suggest to anyone "do this" or "do that" agaist their will otherwise all a really really good hypnothearpist would have to say is "go rob me a bank and bring all the money back and then when I click my fingers you will not remember a thing that you did today"  And from experience.  .   there is no trance in hypnosis like the old cartoons with the black n white swirling eyes had you believe, the whole process feels like sitting with your eyes closed.  .   yes that's it!

But saying that,one thing that would influence a croupier is N.   L.   P (Neuro-linguistic programming ) Persuasion Techniques,which is basicly using covert language patterns, and would only work if 1)You spent the years doing the very hard work learning to use covert language patterns.    2) the croupier was highly suggestible.    3) The croupier had been a croupier long enough that he's able to sub-consciously hit sectors of its choosing.   (afterall a top tennis player hits the ball subconsiously becuase the conscious mind dos'nt have enough time to process all the information to actually 'see the ball' )

manaman,

Seriously, I think the only person here still open to the option of hypnosis in such a simplistic sense, ironically is j.

But don't tell eg, a farmer, it's not possible to give a 2 tonne bull some sort of shot, or to load it up on a truck w/o having a vet tranquilize it first (with a gun).  Unless you've seen what some of them can get their animals to do, animals which could crush/bite them to death in seconds, maybe you have no idea what the mind is capable of.

[Mr J]

@GARNabby >> I just now noticed your "thread" at JPs site. lol How's the workin out for ya? The lengths that people go to.    Ken

[GARNabby]

@GARNabby >> I just now noticed your "thread" at JPs site. lol How's the workin out for ya? The lengths that people go to.    Ken

Talking to yourself again Ken?  (Where those who are "hurting only themselves, and loving it" end up?)

Hey, that little icon looks a lot like the big (avatar) one.

[Nathan Detroit]

Ken,

He ,  Garnabby , " ain`t misbehabin" at JP.   JP has just read the riot act again .

[GARNabby]

Ken,

He ,  Garnabby , " ain`t misbehabin" at JP.   JP has just read the riot act again .

True, so far none of my submissions has been rejected by Patrick (or his editor)... i guess he's a better man than Ellis over at nolinks.beatthecasino.com .

[Nathan Detroit]

Carnabby ,

J. Patrick`s  board is  NOT for  debating other methods. His  board is  just for the purpose  to discuss his methods which he has  laid out in his previous books.

One can discuss off shots of those methods but not new systems . He  has written  16 books  produced DVD `s
but as time  moves  on  new  questions are beginning to emerge.

For instance  I am very strong at Video Poker. He  has written an outstanding  book on that subject. Two years  ago on his  website he made a personal post beamed  me  to stay away from  videopoker knowing very well how  much  I liked it and we had many  constructive discussions   in regard to VP  on his board.

Recently we have been  discussing  his   22 action numbers  and considered it a good  idea to add BLACK as  well if it looks promising.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Mr J]

"His board is just for the purpose to discuss his methods" >>> Sounds like another board I know.   

[Nathan Detroit]

Ken ,

The difference being that JP`s  board was  created  just for the   purpose as   I have stated  above and  for that purpose  alone. Therefore  it  is definetely different  from other boards when  someone just out of the blue  decides only his opinion and evolving  discussions are   acceptable.

GG can be full of traps too since  there is no  policy as to why a moderator  may  or may not edit/ delete a post. Is it the  foul language or  is it  CONTRARY  to the   opinion  of the little Hitlers  , the moderators?

This means walking on thin ice.

Nathan Detroit.

[Mr J]

I agree Nate, just givin you s**t. I would never last at JPs board.  Ken

[GARNabby]

J. Patrick`s  board is  NOT for  debating other methods. His  board is  just for the purpose  to discuss his methods which he has  laid out in his previous books.

Nathan,

That's okay... he (first) refused my last post there this morning, a reply to RK's leaving there. ( nolinks://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4467323 .)  I guess this is where the line lays with him.

BTW, many successes to you with those machines you've taken up!

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""Self deception is the sickness in casino games.  It lives here on this board.  The dellusions fostered here are on going and will never end."  (RK)

Yes, and also on all the other gambling/gaming message-boards, even the so-called serious ones "backed" by the Wizard of Odds and the bj-PhD's... which still end up owned and operated by some pretty slimy persons, and inhabited by alas, the same old guard (of the deluded).

And in anyone who thinks he/she can and will change that.  The deluded can't quite speak out against the blatant scammers (asking for business) because the same sorts of simple-minded ploys have already been rolling around in also their heads long before ever finding these boards.  Sure, they know that "all gamblers are compulsive liars", but quick as assuring us of that... go on to shun, in one way or another, anyone demanding any sort of proof of any of the statements/claims made, while often providing obvious and clear proof/evidence to the contrary.  (Even "circling the wagons" to accuse the persons trying to help of being the trouble-makers.  When the old saying actually goes (, w/o reference to "just ignore him"),  "Help me change what I can, and accept (to well live with) what I can't".  Or the old cult-reinforcement of, "It's me or them... and they're no good, just look at all the problems with the out-side world".)  

No one with any sort of experience/education/investment-capability demonstrates any more than a passing interest in these boards.  Which does leave the abjectly-lonely, mentally-ill, and the desperate, pay-cheque gamblers... and the Patrick's, of course.

And though all this is a good means of "spurring one's self on", as there are a few good persons who can find each other doing the same things, at least for a while, I'm forced to agree with RK... to do the old "hit and run", myself, with what I have helped others help myself learn over the past year or so."

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[GARNabby]

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