Some promissing system

[bene126]

Hi guys.I need some help from you.I just need find kind of bets where is payout 1 to 1.It can be bets on 18 straight up numbers,6 streets,3 lines and so on.I need just this thing.I give you example for RED/BLACK.

20 spins
RED- 10 hits
BACK-10 hits 

This is important for me.How many times this happen in your stats or  just give me your ide which kind of bets i should use.If it happen 2 or 3 times in 1000 spins its good results for me.But no more.In 100 000 spins it can be 200-300 times.Please help me.I need just your opinions and kind of bets.Thank you.

Regards Thomas.

[Jish]

from what i recall bene we need to make a bet that will win every 20 spins, but lose if there is 10 red and 10 black because this occurs not very often at all, any ideas anybody?

[bene126]

Yes we need bets where is payout 1 to 1.So we have to bets like RED/BLACK.We can make it from numbers,streets etc.SO i will call it GROUP A and GROUP B.One of this group must hit minimum 11 times every 20 SPINS where is no zero.I zero came we count new 20 spins.So when one of this group came minimum 11 times the other group came only 9 times or less.This kind of bets i need.It can happen that etiher groups came 10 times in 20 spins but only 2 times in 1000 spins in average.It can be some system too, where we have payout 1 to 1.In this system can be group A winning hit and group B lossing hit.I hope taht you understand what i am looking for.If you find something or have some idea please give me it.Its important for me and i think for you too because if i find these bets i will make a great system and can post it here.

regards

Thomas.

[Jish]

bene im not sure where you got your data, i had a play with this and i got 10 red and 10 black twice in 30 shots

[bene126]

Yes.I know and this is reason why i am looking for any other bets and no RED/BLACK.It was just example.I know RED/BLACK not working.

[hermes]

Bene, bene... Try that: write down 21 spins and count B and R. Eg. 13 Blacks and 8 Reds came in 21 spins. Next 21 spins bet 1 unit on Blacks only. If you are ahead bet the same next 21 spins if you are losing bet 2 units on that one which came more often in the last 21 spins. Eg. Red 14 and Black 7. If you are still losing bet next 21 spins on the better one with 4 units. That's the whole progression 1-2-4. Doesn't happens often that you are on 2 or 4 unit bets in minus! Just bet the better one for every new 21 spins and if total behind use progression 1-2-4. Difficult to lose with this strategy. You can use that strategy on all ECs or play even all 3 ECs simultaneously.
Try and give me a feedback.
Cheers
Hermes

[Danger Man]

There is no difference between R/B and a pair of even chances made up from lines, streets, pleins. All are the same and all will produce the same composition of singles and series.

[iggiv]

There is no difference between R/B and a pair of even chances made up from lines, streets, pleins. All are the same and all will produce the same composition of singles and series.

sorry, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! red/black are evenly (except 0 or 00) spread on the wheel, the other EC are NOT!

notice the difference! That's why table layout was created like this, to make u think it is all the same when it is not.

[husky]

And there is a great difference in stakes. A lot of people play colors (18 numbers), so in some cases, more money is on one color than on the other. Silly streaks can happen due to input/output calculations. But when you play 18 random numbers, there are less silly streaks.

I recommend choosing 18 numbers, 2 in a dozen's row. Pick 2 out of 3 6 9 12. 2 out of 2 5 8 11, 2 out of 25 28 31 34.... you'll get 18 numbers that are more dispersed accross the wheel & board and less recognisable for strange wheel behaviour.

[WARRIOR]

There was a study done by Jack Wise Kennedy some time ago on even chances that you will find interesting.

[Danger Man]

sorry, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! red/black are evenly (except 0 or 00) spread on the wheel, the other EC are NOT!

notice the difference! That's why table layout was created like this, to make u think it is all the same when it is not.

They are physically different that is all. How can two pairs of bets that have the same probability of hitting be different from any other? It's nonsense.

Here is an excel tool that proves you are wrong LOL
nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/365850723/Analysis.xlsx.html

[iggiv]

They are physically different that is all. How can two pairs of bets that have the same probability of hitting be different from any other? It's nonsense.

Here is an excel tool that proves you are wrong LOL
nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/365850723/Analysis.xlsx.html

OK. Does it mean that if u bet let's say one dozen on a table or one sector of 12 on a wheel, it is gonna be the same probability of hitting?

[iggiv]

Danger Man:

i don't mean that in a long run low/high numbers will appear more or less than red/black numbers or something like that. I mean that betting let's say b/r and low/high (with the same approach)  may have different results in a long run.
And betting low/high is gonna be harder.

maybe i am wrong.

[Danger Man]

A simple example is to consider even chances. The composition of the results is the law of series: there will be x amount of single hits such as RRBRR, there will then be half as many doubles (series of two) than singles, then half as many series of three than series of two, half as many series of four than series of three and so on. It doesn't matter how you form even chances, whether they are table or wheel based, all will produce almost identical composition of singles and series. If you downloaded the spreadsheet, it compares R/B with a a pair of even chances made up from the wheel layout, you will see that the count of hits is the same and the amount of observed singles and series is usually within 1 or 2%, or statistically insignificant, meaning for all intents and purposes the "behaviour" of any and all ECs is the same. The results of any betting procedure will also be identical over time. Roulette is not about bets, it's about timing.

OK. Does it mean that if u bet let's say one dozen on a table or one sector of 12 on a wheel, it is gonna be the same probability of hitting?

Yes, of course that is so.

[iggiv]

Yes, of course that is so.
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which means wheel based strategies don't make sense, do they? if we can bet dozens, columns, low/high and so on, why bet any single numbers patterns based on wheel layout. Do i understand u right? If i bet any 12 numbers  -- the result is the same as betting a dozen or a column? Is it right?

[iggiv]

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