The old VLS is dead.

[Number Six]

@ number six,

I have enjoyed reading Gizmotron and Spikes posts for ages. They are a rare breed in the fact that they don't
suck up to anybody looking for anything. Why do you think that is?

I try not to read the negative posters and I soon work out who still has the L plates on.  

LOL! You don't seem to understand that I am not interested in what Spike or Gizmotron do and they don't suck up to anyone because no one has has anything offer, real pros don't constantly allude to the fact that they are a pro or what they do because it isn't worth their time or the attention. The most successful ones slide through time unnoticed. The truth is, there are no secrets here. Gizmotron is right, nobody wants anything unless it is handed to them wrapped up in a ribbon. You'll soon work this out and you'll be off back to GG. Just look around. Which threads get the most hits - the system threads. Where discussion is required, these threads flounder at the bottom of the pile and are dead within days. All the best members have long gone.

There is a difference between truth and "negativity". What is negativity anyway? It's an excuse.

By the way, are you the same Sherminator who was system selling on RF a few months back while pretending to be German?

[sherminator]

Number 6,

I withdrew my offer on RF because I soon realised that nobody really was interested and everybody does want everything handed to them on a plate.
I also said clearly that I play roulette in Germany. Some of the mods asked me and  I answered them.

If you want to speak to me, get your facts right. It would appear you are a very bitter person. Maybe you have being scammed throughout your life and now you like to think of yourself as some kind  of beacon of truth, lol.

[Number Six]

Number 6,

I withdrew my offer on RF because I soon realised that nobody really was interested and everybody does want everything handed to them on a plate.
I also said clearly that I play roulette in Germany. Some of the mods asked me and  I answered them.

If you want to speak to me, get your facts right. It would appear you are a very bitter person. Maybe you have being scammed throughout your life and now you like to think of yourself of some kind of beacon of truth, lol.

Well what is selling a system? You give the plate in return for money, right? That still isn't enough, well some people clearly have problems. BTW, it was well documented that when you started your threads on RF the posts were in broken English and you claimed to live in Germany. When it was revealed by the moderators that your IP was NOT German, you then changed the story and suddenly your English improved over night. And then....poof, the thread is gone. And honestly, do I sound like the sort of person that will allow himself to be scammed by some lowlife? Just because I don't like scammers doesn't mean I myself was scammed. How did you come up with that? Believe it or not, there is a real world outside of your bedroom. You should get out there sometime. Amazingly, in this world, 1+1 doesn't always equal 3 LOL

[sherminator]

Number 6,

I am calling you a liar because I never said I lived in Germany, you don't excactly go around telling people where you live on the internet.
My conscience is clear, I did the right thing by removing my offer and I ignored all the emails and still ignore emails to this day from anyone asking about my methods.
It is apparent that you are some kind of troublemaker who is intent on disrupting roulette forums.

[Spike!]

With random you are always in uncharted territory - you are always off the map.>>

Until you learn to read the map. Every map looks confusing until you learn to read it. The map of random is always changing, the best you can hope for is to keep up with it, you'll never understnd it fully because by then its changed again. All you can do is lay down a bet and hope you read it correctly.

[Spike!]

The very notion of "reading random" is an oxymoron.>

So are most things until you understand them.

<The burden of proof is on those who make the claims.>

Do you know how Zen masters teach? They don't actually teach anything, they point. Its because what they know can't be taught, it can only be understood by looking at it differently. People think Gizmo and I talk all the time and we seldom do. And we never discuss the details of reading random, never have.

[Spike!]

Who NEEDS to? Who wants to spend 35 years studying randomness like Gizmotron apparently did? >>

Then why worry about it? Why does it piss you off so much? Who is it harming? If somebody decided to investigate it, they won't go running off to the casino because they have nothing to run with. All they'll do is perhaps waste their time (or not), and thats better than wasting their money with the newest sure fire scheme they just bought from Joe Bob Scammer for $300.

[Spike!]

why even allude to the existence of the platter in the first place>>>

You act like this is a church and you won't tolerate anything outside your close minded dogma. If it doesn't involve a steep progression and killer draw downs, you want nothing to do with it.

The reason this ticks so many people off is, they instinctively know it works, and they also know they'll never take the time to learn it. So they get mad and try and kill the messenger. Story is as old as time..

[Spike!]

It is a case of sifting through the dirt to find anything that can get me to think. Ultimately, I do this for myself.>>>

I've been saying that for ages. I only post for my own edification. It makes me think to post, and once in awhile somebody will say something that makes me have an epiphany. Learning is hard work, it never stops.

[Spike!]

Funny thing though. It's better to stick to the EC's. >>>

The EC's are the heart of roulette. Study them and master them and the entire layout is yours. The EC's are like the old skeleton key they used at hotels that opened every door. All you needed was one key and you had access to the whole hotel.

[Spike!]

You don't seem to understand that I am not interested in what Spike or Gizmotron do>>

Then what are you so upset about? You seem to have worked yourself up into a lather over something you don't even care about. View people who read random as eccentric crackpots if you wish, who are they harming? You act like I'm encouraging somebody to jump off a bridge or something. Settle down, dude.

[Noble Savage]

The reason this ticks so many people off is, they instinctively know it works

(Keep flattering yourselves.)

Actually quite the contrary. It's knowing for sure that it DOESN'T work, that it's nonsense and YET seeing you two gamblers (with apparent ego issues) spend years living in these forums acting like you know something the whole world doesn't.

My mistake was leaving room for a very small possibility that you might somehow be right, and I urge anyone new to never make the same mistake. It's a waste of time and energy (and perhaps money, for some).

Learning is hard work, it never stops.

Learn this:

1) There is a post quote function in nowadays' forums.
2) You don't have to make 7 posts in a row, unless you're deliberately trying to grow your post count.

[Spike!]

My mistake was leaving room for a very small possibility that you might somehow be right,>>>

And now you can move on to something else, thats cool. Happy trails..

>>You don't have to make 7 posts in a row>>

Its faster to do it that way. Is it against the rules? Why on earth would I give a damn about post counts, I have 15,000 at GG, did it win me any awards?

[bombus]

... You can take any bet selection premise and use it to track the randomness of effectiveness. In other words you can read effectiveness...

Can you elaborate on this statement?

[Number Six]

Then what are you so upset about?

I am not upset in the least. I'm curious to know what you get out of posting on public forums, especially this one after you spent months slating it on GG. Every instinct says that when you have something as powerful as you, you protect it, not brag about it. But, hey, if waffling makes you happy I'm glad for you.

[Number Six]

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