Live Dealer Roulette versus RNG Roulette

[ISpin2Win]

Hi- I am interested to understand a little bit about live dealer roulette versus virtual roulette (rng), and everyone´s preferences here.  I am talking about only playing online, of course.

Personally, I prefer playing Virtual , but that´s because I´m impacient and prefer the speed, but I understand that some people are concerned about casinos rigging the game and thus prefer live casinos (I don´t fully understand this. . . . can´t you rig this as well if you wanted to, you would just change the video stream to another outcome). 

Or is it more about the "experience"?

Or do people have more success on live wheels?. . . please advise.

[Pacer]

I play RNG roulette.   The main difference I can see is you have to bet red/black equal amounts to advance the wheel and zeros cost money, unlike the live wheel which advances without betting.

[ReDsQuaD]

Do you have any idea how they would rigg a live wheel? I started up a topic about air wheel being rigged, with most people telling me its impossible to rigg a live game, well i dissagree, the results i saw were simular to online results (100% rigged) . My main quistion is how would they rigg a live table?

Thanks

[superman]

My main quistion is how would they rigg a live table?

Much easier than RNG, they can just send you the feed of a previous spin, you are in the UK so watch the live roulette on sky that'll give you a good indication of how easy it is.

RNG doesn't need to be rigged, random takes care of ALL events at the same time.

[ReDsQuaD]

Much easier than RNG, they can just send you the feed of a previous spin, you are in the UK so watch the live roulette on sky that'll give you a good indication of how easy it is.

RNG doesn't need to be rigged, random takes care of ALL events at the same time.

Hi sorrey i did not understand, can you explain more detail please.

[superman]

RNG doesn't need to be fixed to beat you, in my opinion that is, with RNG you notice patterns that happen say 60 - 70% of the time, so you see that as a a trigger, you win plenty of times then suddenly that remaining 30 odd % removes any profit you have made previousley, it just does. So now you need to work back and see what happened before the s**t hit the fan, you notice another trigger so end up with if A happens and B hasn't it "should be ok to bet" so you do, you will win a good few then bang again the remaining % of th eother trigger caught you, they don't need to rig it as thats exactly what happens.

Live feeds, the video you see is obviousley processed on a computer, or routed through one at least, any video editing software can change any part of the screen/image during the feed, sure the girl keeps moving around so you don't think its happening, I have worked on pc's for many years, anything is possible, it would be MUCH easier to rigg a feed than RNG (which doesn't need rigging in th eifrst place)

All my opinions of course, draw your own conclusions mate.

[ReDsQuaD]

Thanks very much i do agree with you.
cheersagain

[Herb6]

 

The beauty of the ZONE is that its performance is so consistent. IT WILL TELL ME IF A WHEEL IS BEHAVING SUSPICIOUSLY. Again I can do any number of tests using the MAGIC 12 GAME FRAME. Or the ultimate test number 100. I will tell you in a hurry if something is wrong .

A no you can't.   

1. You don't understand basic probability, let alone something as complex as "goodness of fit" tests.  Meaning you have almost no comprehension of randomness.
2. 100 spins is not a large enough same to judge real statistical significance when comparing a RNG to a live wheel.
3. If you were tested, then you would not be able to tell the difference between the two ( in samples of 100 spins).

-Herb

[Spike!]

I will tell you in a hurry if something is wrong >>>

Really? I'll post 100 spins from a real wheel and 100 from an RNG and you tell me which is which. OK?

[Cash Growth]

Rather than post 100 spins from RNG and 100 spins from Live, I'll sit you down to play 100 spins of RNG and 100 spins from Live. Then you will see an obvious difference.
Do not play RNG with real money.

[Danger Man]

Before you guys start banging on about RNGs being rigged, using your system as a benchmark, you first need to get a handle on the basic maths of roulette, statistical randomness and how to test for statistical randomness using a proper battery of analytical techniques. A rigged RNG would be easy to prove since there would be a permanent and real state of bias against the player, clearly resulting in a suspiciously high and consistent edge in favour of the casino that cannot be attributed to random fluctuation. This would come out in a proper analysis and if proved with the maths on your side you could sue that casino for the lot, ruin their reputation and ultimately destroy them. Because your system fails against an RNG doesn't prove anything, other than your system doesn't work. It's funny how people always complain that RNGs are rigged but they never actually take the time to gather the evidence.

[ISpin2Win]

Hey, thanks everyone for the feedback on this.  Some really interesting posts here.  My own take on this, is that it is pretty easy to see if an RNG is rigged by doing a bit of statistical analysis.

I do wonder whether some online casinos sweeten up the results of the free play version- you know, like a promotional tool or something.  So you have a go with the virtual money and think, "hey- this is looking good".  Then you load your money in, and play the real wheel and you are then up against the standard roulette house edge.

   

[ISpin2Win]

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