Fender Challenge. Live Demonstration on DB With Real Money.

[Spike!]

Why not simply test it yourself playing as I have done >>>

Why don't you do the Dublin test, Atlantis? Prove to all of us that it works. You have nothing to lose, its a sure winner. Right?

[Number Six]

This is ridiculous guys!

We want to know who is really playing it and who is just hot air. We want to see real proof that Dark Matter Maths is the real deal.

Also, when playing in a live challenge you can't fudge the results  

[Spike!]

This reminds me of a guy who comes to town and is an expert marksman. He keeps bragging that he never misses and when somebody asks for a demo of his ability, he says 'Naw', I explained it to you, just do it yourself.

You would be laughed out of town as a liar and a fool, and rightly so.

[Herb6]

 

[Spike!]

Why don't they prove it to themselves? >>

So of all you people who are claiming fantastic success, not ONE of you will prove it? LOL! This speaks volumes, doesn't it. It just proves the old saying "Money talks and bullshit walks". If you can't and won't show us that YOU can do it, why is god's name would we waste our time to learn it ourselves? Its a baloneyfest, as Gizmo says.

[Spike!]

IF AND WHEN I EVER GIVE YOU THE PRIVILEGE of seeing me in realtime action.>

You won't do it NOW, and you won't do it THEN! You don't realize that you're just like all the other Grail claimers. Its always somewhere in the dim future that you will 'prove' what you say, because you hope everybody will have forgotten by then. You are TERRIFIED down to your toes to give a demo, why not just admit it?

[Number Six]

You won't do it NOW, and you won't do it THEN!

This is part of the Hidden Math cult pact, don't you know? We mere mortals in the real world aren't ready for it yet. Some day it will all be revealed.....but not yet, or tomorrow. Maybe in 2012 when fender finally gets to Vegas. When his first session on the strip has sent shockwaves across the world maybe I'll be reading about it on the front page of the Times the morning after.

[atlantis]

I will be happy to post my results for a session of games from Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden for TABLE 3 01 MAY 2010 when I can download the spins file tomorrow. I will play it thru RXtreme program and post the results - playing it using the relaxed rules using my labouchere stake tweak. I don't expect it to be any different to my previous results posts!

A.

[Herb6]

This is what's so silly about Fender's method.  It's the waiting for numbers to become "due"

The following is for a double zero wheel.

You can stand around, waiting for somewhere close to 248 spins for a specific dozen not to hit, and then have a chance of hitting it of 12/38

or

You can bet the very first spin and have the same 12/38 chance of winning.  

The waiting around to qualify your bet is beyond silly!  

What magical event is it that you feel is happening while you wait to bet?

[Spike!]

I will be happy to post my results for a session of games from Casino Spielbank>>>

Posting results don't prove anything. The only thing that passes for proof is laying down real money on a real live wheel, like Dublin has. Anything else is meaningless. Countless players thought they had the Grail and sold there possessions and flew to Vegas and came home totally broke. Vegas LOVES those players. I'm not joking, it happens all the time. You're curve fitting data and the ONLY way to show yourself you're not, is to play for real money. Those results never lie..

[Spike!]

The waiting around to qualify your bet is beyond silly! >>>

Agreed. I bet almost every spin. I didn't used to, but the more you play, the more you realize waiting is useless with random outcomes. You have no idea whats coming or when its coming, waiting is just a way to make your BR last longer.

[atlantis]

I will be happy to post my results for a session of games from Casino Spielbank>>>

Posting results don't prove anything. The only thing that passes for proof is laying down real money on a real live wheel, like Dublin has. Anything else is meaningless. Countless players thought they had the Grail and sold there possessions and flew to Vegas and came home totally broke. Vegas LOVES those players. I'm not joking, it happens all the time. You're curve fitting data and the ONLY way to show yourself you're not, is to play for real money. Those results never lie..

Spike - we're talking about ACTUAL results here. How can I be accused of curve fitting data??? Tell you what I'll do. Pick a number say between 1 and 20 and I will start playing the session as I said tomorrow from THAT number spin in the file.

A.

[sherminator]

@Fender,

For a few years I thought I was walking around with the holy grail in my pocket. I was winning almost every session. What was really happening was just a bit of good luck in my favour. Ok, I used a disciplined approach and did not bet on every spin, like you I tried to play in short bursts and quit with a profit.
The truth was I did not have the H.G. even though I really wanted to believe that I did. I admire your determination and the way you are sticking up for yourself    BUT  you really don't have any grail there. You may win for the next 2/3 years and I sincerely hope you do but long term you are not on safe ground.

What eventually happened with me is a long story that I don't really want to go into but it had a happy ending.....for now at least. The point is don't waste your life dreaming about something that is not sustainable long term.

Maybe it will take some time, but with your determination, you really need to be looking for other ways to win at this game if you intend to make a career out of it.
No offence intended, I am just offering some words of wisdom from someone who was probably where you are now.

[Herb6]

Atlantis,

Why do you feel numbers, or in this case, dozens become due to hit?

1. The dealer isn't blocking any numbers after they hit.
2. The number of pockets on the wheel remain the same from one spin to the next.

So, what magical event is happening that makes a dozen numbers become more likely to hit?

[macduff]

The waiting around to qualify your bet is beyond silly! >>>

Agreed. I bet almost every spin. I didn't used to, but the more you play, the more you realize waiting is useless with random outcomes. You have no idea whats coming or when its coming, waiting is just a way to make your BR last longer.

that is utter bull, waiting for certain runs on dozens is the way to play dozens. betting on every spin is suicide. you just make random guesses then.
why almost,and not every spin. ahh smell keechhh.        

[macduff]

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