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The > BlackPearl Double DZ/CL Strategy < Enjoy !!!

Started by BlackPearl, May 16, 2010, 08:41:20 AM

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pablos

Quote from: BlackPearl link=topic=16223.         msg109676#msg109676 date=1274605221



Here we go:

12
18
1
23
14
6
23
9

START SIGNAL:  You place -1- on the SD ( 3rd) and -1- on the LD (1st)

19          -1-  on LD (sec),   -1- on SD (3rd),     bet: -2-     total loss,     bilance:   minus -2-
4            -1-  on LD (sec),   -2- on SD (3rd),     bet: -3-     total loss,     bilance:   minus -5-    
3            -2-  on LD (1st),    -5- on SD (3rd),     bet: -7-     part loss,     bilance:   minus -6-
31          -1-  on LD (1st),   -8- on SD (3rd),     bet: -9-         Win            bilance:   plus    -9-

RESET the BET:

Place again -1- on the SD and -1- on the LD
This will be  -1- on SD (3rd, 31)  and  -1- on LD (sec, 19), see above numbers    

I am sorry, cannot explain it better in English language.         .         .         

Sincerely,
ROLF[/color]   :thumbsup:

Hello I am quite new here and with this strategy.          I didn't fully understand this strategy so I have few questions to avoid some stupid mistakes.          I don't fully understand your example.          My english is not very good.          Sorry for that.          Start signal appeared when 9 was hit.          Then 19 comes so we lost on both dozens but you still bet 1 on both, why you didn't start fibonacci on SD I mean why you didn't bet 2 on SD?

19          -1-  on LD (sec),   -1- on SD (3rd),     bet: -2-     total loss,     bilance:   minus -2-

Then when the 4 was hit

4            -1-  on LD (sec),   -2- on SD (3rd),     bet: -3-     total loss,     bilance:   minus -5-

you bet 1 on LD (sec ?) why not first ? 4 is in 1th dozen ?

The next line

3            -2-  on LD (1st),    -5- on SD (3rd),     bet: -7-     part loss,     bilance:   minus -6-

Why 2 on LD(1st) why not 1 ? I thought that we start fibonacci on LD when SD reaches 8 ?

31          -1-  on LD (1st),   -8- on SD (3rd),     bet: -9-         Win            bilance:   plus    -9-

Here the same LD isn't 3th ? You came back here to 1 chip on LD.          I don;t understand why ?

Here are some more my questions and my opinions about system.          Correct me if I am wrong.         

The starting signal is when one dozen sleeps for 5 or 8 spins (it depends on us but 8 is more safe) ?

Then we start betting with 1 chip on each SD and LD.          When we win than we stay at stake 1 chip on each beacuse we have profit overall.          When we lose on both we start fibonacci on SD from the next spin ? That is why I dont understand why after 19 you stayed on 1 chip on both.         

When SD stake reaches 8 ? (8 or 5 ?) we start LD with fibonacci betting 2 on LD when 8  on SD ?

but what happen when LD is on 3 for instance and SD on 13 and we hit LD then we still increase stakes on both SD and LD or only on SD and LD reset to 1 or something else ? I don't know what then when we win on LD but overall we have loss.         

When we start fibonacci on SD we increases stake every spin until we hit SD ?

Do we use only 9 steps of fibonacci 1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 or we go further until we reaches our loss of 20% of our bankroll or we win ?

How much do you bet on 0 for example you have on the table 20$ then how much on 0 ?

How much and on what we bet when 0 come but we didn't bet on 0 because on the table was let say 10$.          Do we increase stakes and bet the same dozens before 0 or what ?

Here are my two thoughts but I don't know if I am right.         

We start fabionacci on SD when we lose on both dozens.         

When we start fabionacci on SD we increase stake every spin until we win on SD ?

When SD stake reach 8 we bet 2 on LD but when we hit LD I dont know what then ? we have partial win but overall loss.          Do we come back to 1 chip stake on LD or we increase still because stake on SD increases too ?

Sorry for so many questions but I din't understand everything and I want to understand it good befeore I start to use it.          Thanks in advance for respond.         

For some time I see that there is no new post in this thread so I wonder do you use it still and do you have winnings with it ? What do you think about this system ?

I read again this thred and I think I found some answers to my questions.        When the LD is in progresion and we hit it then we reset stake to 1 chip on LD but we increase stake on SD right ? but do we still make a progression on LD but from 1 again or what ? (because SD stake say that LD should be in progresion but we reset it to 1) and I still dont know how far progression on SD go ? what is the limit ? 9 steps ? 20% loss or hit SD ?

Quote from: snoowly link=topic=16223.      msg111712#msg111712 date=1276202487

I dont play in roulette live because bet are most of case 1 euro minus and is too much for me.     


Snoowly you can find live roulette with stakes from 10 cents for example Eurogrand or William Hill.     

pablos

I almost lost my bankroll with this strategy.  This system unfortunately is susceptible for series above for example 15 spins without one dozen.  Sometimes when terms are good we can last out even 20 spins without one dozen but in worst possible scenario we can lose after 12-15 spins without one dozen which is not so rare.  I dont know maybe I dont understand something.  Can someone answer for my questions in previous post especially how far we go with fibionacci line progression.  In my case I didn't know if to stop on 55 so I went further with 89,144 etc.  I like this system but after I almost lost everything I am a little bit scared to use it.  Author had great results.  If someone played it with such a good results ?

pablos

Anybody play with this system yet ? I like it and play with it but I wonder why Black Pearl had such a good results. It is obvious that this system can be easy killed by long series without one dozen. The only explanation is that stop loss is the key to success or Black Pearl was just lucky and didn't meet to many long series. I don't know. He played few thousands of spins which derive from his results page. Could he be just lucky with his winnings ?

GLC

Quote from: pablos on August 04, 2010, 01:43:36 PM
Anybody play with this system yet ? I like it and play with it but I wonder why Black Pearl had such a good results. It is obvious that this system can be easy killed by long series without one dozen. The only explanation is that stop loss is the key to success or Black Pearl was just lucky and didn't meet to many long series. I don't know. He played few thousands of spins which derive from his results page. Could he be just lucky with his winnings ?

Pablos,

I can only think that he just had a really long streak of good spins.  You noticed when he lost it was a big loss and it took quite a while to recover.  He finally got his stop win down to 5%.  You usually keep dropping your win percentage when the higher one gets harder and harder to hit without having a lot of stop losses.

This seems like a reasonable system for hit and run, but you never know when that streak of 15+ is coming.  And it's a killer.

GLC


pablos

Well there is no one limit which kill this sytem because when we bet 1,1 and don't hit SD but hit LD we dont increase stake which give us one more step with no increasing stakes even when we have stakes 2 on SD and 1 on LD and hit LD then we also dont have to increase stakes because we are break even at least I was playing that way but you are right that it is very possible that such a long series will kill us.

LouisV

I like this strategie but I played it in a different way.
I bet on the last dozen that hit and in place of the sleeping dozen I bet the one before the last whit the same progression as the blackpearl double dz/cl strategie. .  Much better and it eliminate the sleeping factor.
Sorry for my English ( I ame Dutch).   :thumbsup: :good: :yahoo: :pleasantry:

pablos

I think it is a quite good idea. It eliminates the sleeping factor but can you tell what sequence then kill your system. Tell me if I am wrong but I think that then sequence that kills that system is only when dozens repeat all the time in the same way like 123 123 123 123 123 or repeting one dozen in this sequence like 123 1223 1112233 123 1233 etc. The question is what is the longest sequence of this kind.

LouisV

You are right Pablos, but I think that a sleeping dozen for 12 spins comes more up than 123 123 123 123.
I play this system now for a while and have not had one single losing session.
I play every day this strategie about +- one hour on William Hill casino ( live dealers) and quitte when I have +50 or +60 units(1€) I ame not greedy
Than I change and play a different system

Your spins:
123 1223 11122 (here you have a loosing session -96 units last bet was 13 units on 2e dozen and 55 units on 1e dozen stop progression and restart)33 123 1233
But just now I have not had a session like this, and when it must come than my bankroll is always ten times bigger with all the winning sessions than the 96 loosing units.
Sorry for my English (I ame Dutch)
Greatings


dfo

Quote from: LouisV link=topic=16223.  msg123846#msg123846 date=1290510980
I like this strategie but I played it in a different way.   
I bet on the last dozen that hit and in place of the sleeping dozen I bet the one before the last whit the same progression as the blackpearl double dz/cl strategie.   .    Much better and it eliminate the sleeping factor.   
Sorry for my English ( I ame Dutch).     :thumbsup: :good: :yahoo: :pleasantry:


Hi LouisV

What happen if the one before the last is the same of last, did you came back till you find a new one?
Thank you in advance

LouisV

Hi dfo
You always bet the last two different dozen that hit so when the nrs are 12-4-11-22-19-21 you continue to betting the 1e an the 2e dozen (each time 1 unit profit) til the 3e dozen appear and than start the progression on the the dozen that hit before the last(3e dozen) in this case the 2e dozen (nr21) so you next bet is 1unit on the 3e dozen and 2units on the 2e dozen and you continue the same progression that blackpearl have explain here before but the only difference is that we begin en go on with the progression on the dozen that  hit before the last and not on the sleeping dozen.  Hope I have explain it well now in English.  ( I ame dutch)
Greatings. 

This download is a very helpfull tool to play this system:

hxxp: vlsroulette. com/index. php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=191


dfo

Hi LouisV

I Understood . .  What about the start of the play.  Are you wait for the trigger ? or Are you start as soon did you have the before DZ.
Don't worry about English. . .  also my isn't perfect.  The important things is comunicate with you.

Thanks
DFO

LouisV

I start to play off the moment that the two last dozen are different, after that no more trigger, I continue to play about
1 hour or when I ame in profit around 50 or 60 units(1€) than I stop with this system (never be gready on the roulette it will always kill your bankroll).  Just now this methode do it very well for me, so I go on with it.  Not one single loosing session, maby I ame just lucky, or maby it is a very good system for short time players
Greatings

pablos

Louis when you have bad sequence you bet till the 55 max or you go further with Fibionacci progression ? Do you apply all other rules not changed like covering 0 and do you start betting third dozen when needed like blck pearl said or not ? I played this system with old rules but once I almost lost everything so I gave up since then but this new way is quite interesting besides I went further with Fibionacci progresion not only to 55. I play also in William Hill that is why it is more interesting for me how many bad session did you have.

LouisV

Like I said before I have never had a loosing sequence,  I have  reached a few times the 55 units on progression, but than on the last spin I have won!!!! so maby I ame just lucky I don' t know ????
Once I come to 21 units on the progression  I cover olso the zero.
I have never used the 3e dozen in the progression only play two dozens at a time.
I think that at the moment that I will have a loosing sequence, I stop after the 55units(take the loosing) and restart the progression on the one before the last but not on the last( to recover a little)
When You played ten days without a loose I think one loosing session don't hurt very much?   


pablos

Ok thanks for response I was just curious if you stick to the rest of the rules. When I almost lost everything then I stopped playing with this sytem and switched to the other one but with this new method I think it is worth to try. I laso coverd zero and didn't play 3 dozens in the same time. I think it can be a good system but I have to use stop loss rule because without it loss is only a matter of time.

pablos

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