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Is RNG really random?

Started by Fripper, May 24, 2010, 02:36:31 PM

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Ulysses

QuoteWhen you say you wait for a win, do you mean after a hit within 18 spins, then bet those numbers to hit again for 18?

Stage 1: No I meant wait for a win without betting up to 18 spins like this 27 34 7 17 19 6 22 28 10 4

Stage 2: Now wait for the next showing of 4 or the 7 up to 18 spins like this 0 33 4 (start betting the 4 and 7) 14 35 23 18 16 29 4

Repeat stage 2

note: do not keep betting 4 and 7 after a win. Always wait for another fresh 4 or 7 before betting it for 18 spins max.



QuoteI was surprised by how often it does work, but then it comes to several games that your "magic" numbers just sleeps.

Yes it would be nice if we had the world handed to us on a plate with these numbers working every time but it comes down to strategy when I play them. I make conscious decisions whether I bet or not. If it is sleeping I bide my time and wait it out. When I recognise its reemergence is getting stronger I bet with higher stakes. Remember there is nothing 'magical' about these linked numbers except that they show me a higher probability of producing a wins more often. Remember to that I play lots of different linked pairs at different times, it comes down to my own experience with playing this style for instance some games there will be no need for me to play 4,7 or 2,5 it all depends on the current state of numbers in play that dictates what and when to bet. I would say its best that you just have fun with it Flipper (and anyone else) rather than risk money unless you learn to put a strategy in place with more experience of what to look out for.




Ulysses

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Quote from: Bayes on July 17, 2010, 07:29:26 AM

If you have some spins (playtech, MG, wagerlogic) I will write some code to see if the "linked numbers" theory holds up. By "holds up" I mean - does playing these sets of numbers give any better results than expectation? Personally I'm sceptical that they do, but nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Have you started any coding bayes? If not I will try and code myself. Do you know of a similar program that I can use as a skeleton template to adjust code for this system?

cilxeskyd

Quote from: Spike! link=topic=16349.  msg109839#msg109839 date=1274747429
RNG's are not true random in the extreme short term.   They mimic true random in the long term and this is apparently good enough for the math crowd.  

Is that another educated guess.  .  ?

Fripper


Ulysses

found this below, but I doubt anyone really knows which way or other rng is truly honest, the way I gain confidence in an rng casino is where I win more then play that casino more often.


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Wizard quoted
QuoteOf course every online casino will say they play fairly in all games. Given the lack of regulation, you have to take them at their word. If you want to prove they are not playing fairly, then gather some evidence. Note how I proved that the Elka/Oyster casinos were letting players win in roulette in free play mode. If you're not sure how a casino might be cheating in blackjack, then flat bet, and note your net win and total hands played. No approximating, and use perfect basic strategy. It may take a huge sample size to prove a slight case of cheating.

However, in my opinion, all the major Internet casinos play fairly. It would be horrible business not to. There is plenty of money to be made with the natural house edge. Yet everybody gets accused of cheating. I attribute it to selective memory. I don't know if these rumors still persist, but it used to be commonly (and incorrectly) believed that Microgaming had a "take down" mode in blackjack, and RTG blackjack was programmed like a slot machine. If you want to find actual cheating, your odds are better with low-budget software.

Ulysses

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