every system crashes and burns

[simon]

anyway medo I guess you must be able to make a thousand dollars every couple of hours-- betting $100 chips-- since you can always make 9 units profit per 100 spins.  hmmm, not bad, Bill Gates got nothing on you.

[Spike!]

you are totally incorrect>>

LOL!! Are you insane? I was there, its was YOUR post, it disappeared and now you say it never existed?

OK, whatever, way to man up, Simon.

[medo]

my spin data is from double zeroe wheels.  unfortunately that is what I have to contend with, which is I guess why I am so frustrated with systems, nothing seems to be able to beat a double zeroe wheel.  my idea was that I could send the whole spreadsheet of spins to someone else here I trust not to give them to you, so you know I nothing was changed while you "played", and I suppose we could even remove either the 0's or 00's, and then give you spins one at a time or however many you want to get, and you could say what the next bet will be, etc.  but I guess that would be a tedious process.

Double zero wheel is strange to me,never played it nor do I know the wheel lay out of it.
Almost 6% house edge is impossible to beat on the long run,and I always wonder why you ppl. from
the states are playing it,when there is a lot of single zeros in reputables casinos,even with lapartage rules
Thats probably why your tries to create a winning methods always sunk cause of these unfair conditions.
Maybe you should,in future concetrate your mind/creating methods/on single zero wheel.
You are right,it would be a tedious process.Since I will be at LV-hotel-casino,Stratosphere from 29-12 to 05-01
2011,come and have a look/as I have simplified this method so much,that don't even need a spreadsheet to play it,and mind you on all 3 E/C simultaneously/It has nothing to do with Spikes educated guessing or Gizmos reading of randomness,but pure maths and Educated Stakings and chip managment.Thats all.

[bombus]

Go get 'em Medo!

(I agree)...stick to single zero wheels, mate.

[medo]

Go get 'em Medo!

(I agree)...stick to single zero wheels, mate.

I kind of feel that they/Amers/play it cause its theirs-original-and as such should be the best,
as all other products they invented in the past,and I also kind of like such attitude,but man when they/casinos/
actually robs you...give up.

[simon]

there is only one good thing about a double zeroe wheel and that is for target shooters, as large chunks of the wheel can be covered by betting the columns.  if anyone really had a handle on vb methodologies, they should be able to beat a double zeroe wheel and all they would have to do is be accurate enough to predict a nearly two thirds chunk of the wheel that the ball will land in because of the blocks of contiguous numbers that the columns make up, when played together.  basically all they would have to do is bet if the ball will land in the A/C chunk of the wheel, or not, which is a block of numbers that cover almost three quarters of the wheel--with the exception of just a couple of numbers (have the complete works of the experts who are supposed to be able to do this/tried it/been there/done that/eyes not good enough/couldn't do it.)

[Noble Savage]

The only good things about American wheels is that it's a bit more "symmetric", a bit easier to visually memorize. It's also more possible to disguise your sector-betting using outside bets (dozens/columns/streets/corners) to reduce heat when playing VB.

I'd still go with a European wheel though.

[simon]

The only good things about American wheels is that it's a bit more "symmetric", a bit easier to visually memorize. It's also more possible to disguise your sector-betting using outside bets (dozens/columns/streets/corners) to reduce heat when playing VB.

I'd still go with a European wheel though.

good God you still think you have to DISGUISE what you are doing?!?  is anyone here an experienced player or what?  what are you a professional that the casinos have to be WORRIED about because you make so much money from them you will put them out of business?  please come to my casino, you will not have to disguise anything, and I promise you they will not kick you out, or, maybe you'd like to sit there disguising what you are doing, and I promise you they will laugh at you on your way out.  and if you win some money, I promise you they will give it to you with pleasure and invite you to come back, no matter what your methods are (short of using a hidden computer.)

[Noble Savage]

Great, another Gizmotron.

what are you a professional that the casinos have to be WORRIED about because you make so much money from them you will put them out of business?

Point out where I said I was pro or even semi-pro.

good God you still think you have to DISGUISE what you are doing?

I play VB (or I don't play at all). When you play VB it's always a good idea to make it look like you're not a VB player but a typical system player instead. I won't go into detail as it's not worth the time spent talking about the art of VB with some angry internet noob like yourself.

is anyone here an experienced player or what?

No, far from it. It's just that you are so angry and insecure about your failure that you project it on everyone else.

I just shared a simple opinion of what I think is good about American wheels (from a personal point of view), and you went all worked up thinking I'm claiming to be some professional and making millions while you're not!

Get a job mate.

[Spike!]

to reduce heat when playing VB.>>

LOL, that is pretty funny. Hey NS, do the suits follow you out to the parking lot and get your licence number after they catch you playing VB? Are you a danger to the casinos bottom line? 

[Noble Savage]

LOL, that is pretty funny. Hey NS, do the suits follow you out to the parking lot and get your licence number after they catch you playing VB? Are you a danger to the casinos bottom line? 

Certainly more dangerous than that old gambling addict sitting at the table every night spending his retirement paycheck betting on Red/Black.

[Kelly]

Its  a situation you would never find yourself in spike.  They would have to take the license number from the local Grey Hound bus.

[Spike!]

Its  a situation you would never find yourself in spike.>>

You're right. By the time the casino realizes I'm there, I'm already gone...

[Nathan Detroit]

Yes  Spike,

In a  casino a  REAL pro always   has  one  foot pointed towards the  door. 

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Spike!]

REAL pro always   has  one  foot pointed towards the  door.>>

Not VB players. They set up a campsite, eat their meals at the table, and sleep in between spins. But they are the only 'true' advantage players, winning those half a dozen units every 12 hours is what they live for...

[Spike!]

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