What is the maths probability of this? dozen to sleep 12 times?

[Jean-Claud]

If a dozen will sleep  11 times and we will win the 12th(I mean it will wake up in the 12th) what is the maths probability of this?

it is suposed that every time that 1 dozen or colour is sleeping,in the next spin the probability to hit it is becoming bigger.
So my question is if a dozen will wake up in the 12th spin what is the probability?

THANK YOU.

ps .I know that Roulette is pure random and this is not a winning quesion...but I just want to know the maths of it.

[Bayes]

(25/37)¹¹ ✕ (12/37) = 0.00435 

[Jean-Claud]

Can we make it in %???

I mean the 12th time that we are betting on a 11 times sleeping dozen...what is the probability % to come ?

[simon]

it is suposed that every time that 1 dozen or colour is sleeping,in the next spin the probability to hit it is becoming bigger.

.............. you need to go back to school, the probability never changes.  I personally saw one column not hit 15 times in a row.  can happen any time (unfortunately I was betting on it to hit.  maybe I just have extremely bad luck, since everyone else around here claims to win.)

[Fripper]

The first system I ever used was ofcourse martingle with red and black. But the second one was playing that a dozen doesn't sleep more than 19 times.

I waited for a dozen to sleep 7 times then I started betting with a 12 step progression. I played it for 2 weeks I think and then came to a loss. I thought I would become a billionare, was already thinking of which car I should by, Porsche or Lamborghini =D

I aimed for 30$ day and it took about 30 minutes every day. Was up to 500$ (should had stopped here) and then the session of hell came. Lost all of it and learned me a big lession. Everybody has to begin somewhere and learn.

Since that havn't I found a winning system or strategi..

[simon]

yeah I hate it when that happens...  (death of a dream)

[Jean-Claud]

if you read again i already told you that roulette can not be beatten with this.
I just wanted to know the maths of it.


imagine if it was a system.what would you do?draw a gun and shoot?

[simon]

if you read again I already told you that roulette can not be beatten with this.
I just wanted to know the maths of it.


imagine if it was a system.what would you do?draw a gun and shoot?

............. I don't even know what that means.  shoot the dealer and take the money?  yeah that's not a bad system but one that would probably fail pretty abruptly.  I was just pointing out to you that when you think the probability of something occuring increases more and more each time it doesn't happen-- in a game of replacement which is what roulette is-- shows that you have a rather large misunderstanding about roulette and probability.

[gizmotron]

if you read again I already told you that roulette can not be beatten with this.
I just wanted to know the maths of it.


imagine if it was a system.what would you do?draw a gun and shoot?

It's a very simple thing to figure out. Sometimes it will continue and sometimes it won't. There are no odds that can tell you when randomness is going to work in your favor and when it won't. That's why the odds don't matter. It's also why the odds don't matter to every other application that attempts to predict when certain things will happen. It's random that will happen. You can't know when it will strongly favor your interests. It also explains why math can't tell you when things will favor you too. Funny how that works. Math somehow gets used around here to explain why random outcomes can't work for you all the time. Because they always lean back on that phase of it called long term. Still, the "termers" like to always tell you when long term must hit your play. What's really funny is they all admit that it hit them very early in their attempts to play at reading randomness. If you care to look up their comments you will see that they all had bad experiences and gave up on it very early in their experiences. Now is that a coincidence or a pattern?

[Bayes]

Can we make it in %???

I mean the 12th time that we are betting on a 11 times sleeping dozen...what is the probability % to come ?

As a % it's 0.435%

This is the chance that you will get a dozen sleeping for 11 spins and then hitting on the 12th spin -  this is the sequential probability. If you're asking what the probability is that a dozen will hit, having slept for 11 spins, that is 12/37.

[Jean-Claud]

I have already TOLD U that this probability question is not about making a system , but is just a math question...

U are all continue to sing the sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee thing...

and u want to beat roulette

Roulette can not be beaten with maths or probability!!!!!!
This is something that allllllllllllllllllll the expirienced players know it!!!!!!

there u go are u happy now that i told U that I know it also?
LOL
it was the 3d time that I told u that...

[Bayes]

It's a very simple thing to figure out. Sometimes it will continue and sometimes it won't. There are no odds that can tell you when randomness is going to work in your favor and when it won't. That's why the odds don't matter. It's also why the odds don't matter to every other application that attempts to predict when certain things will happen. It's random that will happen. You can't know when it will strongly favor your interests. It also explains why math can't tell you when things will favor you too.

You can't have it both ways. Something has to tell you when the odds are in your favour otherwise you would lose at the predicted rate. Since you claim that you don't then there must be some indicator which can be taken account of, and this will change the odds - yes?

[Noble Savage]

There are no odds that can tell you when randomness is going to work in your favor and when it won't. That's why the odds don't matter.

Also, Gizmotron (aka Chuck Norris, aka God) once counted to infinity twice.

Logic doesn't apply to him, he applies to it.

[Noble Savage]

You can't have it both ways. Something has to tell you when the odds are in your favour otherwise you would lose at the predicted rate. Since you claim that you don't then there must be some indicator which can be taken account of, and this will change the odds - yes?

Bayes, you don't understand. Here's the truth: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/skeeping-dozen-concept-make-your-guess-for-how-long/msg112521/#msg112521

[Bayes]

Bayes, you don't understand.

I know. It's very frustrating.       

@ Gizmo,

Basically you're saying that spins are not independent. Do you agree?

Yes or No 

[Bayes]

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