Understanding it all

[simon]

I think the joke is quite good though - but now he is exposed!>>>

Yup, he copied and pasted most of the article and changed a few of the words around. Told ya! None of that stuff could apply to roulette, its ridiculous.

So what say you now Simon, was I 'too hard' on your new hero? He's a phoney baloney prankster, he gave hmself away by turning petty and vindictive. Too bad you couldn't see it..

......... I don't know, I'm too tired to read it all now and see what was direct quotes and what wasn't.  just because it's similar doesn't mean he's not into it.  whatever....

[Spike!]

just because it's similar doesn't mean he's not into it.  whatever....>>

Into WHAT?? There's nothing to be into. He faked the whole thing, just as I said and Gizmo said and Ken said right from the start. Geez...

[Ka2]

Spike why don't you stick to your educated guessing threads?  You are the essence of everything that has made this forum useless.  You are like a child that has to interrupt every conversation to get some attention.  It is so important to you that you see your words in print in every thread that you must constantly comment whether you have anything useful to say or not.  You (and others) seem to be so lacking in confidence that if you read something you don't understand or agree with then your only response is to throw out immature insults.  GM is right about one thing, an educated person just does not do that.  An educated person listens, and offers intelligent conversation and debate or moves on.  I wouldn't waste a minute reading or arguing about the useless drivel you post.  I suggest that you (and others) do the same with other people's writings that one would have no interest in.

Hear! Hear! 

[Spike!]

Geez I busted the guy out of the gate and you STILL think he's for real? Like Number Six says 'This place has turned into a cyber-asylum.' The smell of desperation is everywhere.

[Jakkalsdraai]

just because it's similar doesn't mean he's not into it.  whatever....>>

Into WHAT?? There's nothing to be into. He faked the whole thing, just as I said and Gizmo said and Ken said right from the start. Geez...

"I told you so!" 

Whether Simon belives in this Monk stuff or not he was still 100% correct about what he said about you Spike. He forgot to mention though that you are also a coward and a chicken. Puk puk puk puk puuuuuuk!  (refering off course your no-show)

[Spike!]

He forgot to mention though that you are also a coward and a chicken.>>

Sorry I couldn't show, but I don't hang with pathetic people who want hand outs. Sorry....

[bombus]

People like you are exactly what is wrong with humanity.

And what, pray tell is wrong with humanity? And who are you to judge?

Those involved I will contact via email.

A nod is as good as a wink to a blind man.

[atlantis]

Here's how to transmit quantum information from one point in spacetime in the ethereal world to another without traversing the intervening space.  (Retreiving information from the future for roulette bets.)

The technique relies on the strange quantum phenomenon called entanglement, in which two particles share the same existence. This deep connection means that a measurement on one particle immediately influences the other, even though they are light-years apart. I worked out how to exploit this to send information. (The influence between the particles may be immediate, but the process does not violate relativity because some informatiom has to be sent classically at the speed of light.) The technique is called teleportation.

Since quantum particles are indistinguishable but for the information they carry, there is no need to transmit them themselves. A much simpler idea is to send the information they contain instead and ensure that there is a ready supply of particles at the other end to take on their identity.  

Physicists have used these ideas to actually teleport photons, atoms, and ions. And it's not too hard to imagine that molecules and perhaps even viruses could be teleported in the not-too-distant future.
While at the Tohoku University in Japan I came up with a much more exotic idea. Why not use the same quantum principles to teleport Energy and information from the future back to the past?  Roulette came to my mind.

The process of teleportation involves making a measurement on each one an entangled pair of particles. The measurement on the first particle injects quantum energy into the system.  By carefully choosing the measurement to do on the second particle, it is possible to extract the original Energy and then to retreive the information from the future.
All this is possible because there are always quantum fluctuations in the Energy of any particle from the past and the future. The teleportation process allows you to inject quantum Energy at one point in the universe and then exploit quantum Energy fluctuations to extract it from another point. Of course, the Energy of the system as whole is unchanged.  

Like a string of entangled ions oscillating back and forth in an electric field trap, a bit like Newton's balls. Measuring the state of the first ion injects Energy into the system in the form of a phonon, a quantum of oscillation. By performing the right kind of measurement on the last ion extracts this Energy. Since this can be done at the speed of light (in principle), the phonon doesn't travel across the intermediate ions so there is no heating of these ions. The Energy has been transmitted without traveling across the intervening spacetime. That's why it's teleportation.

The really exciting stuff is the implications this has for the foundations of the game of roulette. This approach gives physicists a way of exploring the relationship between quantum information time and quantum Energy for the first time.
There is a growing sense that the properties of the universe are best described not by the laws that govern matter but by the laws that govern information time. This appears to be true for the ethereal world, is certainly true for special relativity, and is currently being explored for general relativity and even the game of roulette. Having a way to handle Energy on the same footing may helps to draw these diverse strands together.  This is why I'm here.

Hey - check out this science blog:
nolinks://dad2059.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/the-quantum-entanglement-of-energy/

Anything look familiar? I'll quote a little bit from it:

The technique relies on the strange quantum phenomenon called entanglement, in which two particles share the same existence. This deep connection means that a measurement on one particle immediately influences the other, even though they are light-years apart. Bennett and company worked out how to exploit this to send information. (The influence between the particles may be immediate, but the process does not violate relativity because some informatiom has to be sent classically at the speed of light.) They called the technique teleportation.

See the word for word similarities with GM's post above?

You can tell it's copied and pasted - look at word "informatiom" !!

See how he deleted the original name - bennett - and put in "I" thus plaigiarizing the piece...

End of Story.  

A.

[atlantis]

On July 9th, GriellianMonk wrote:

This is where consciousness comes from, it raises the question: Where did the Planck-scale processes that cause it come from? The answer: They came from the Big Bang. In this view, consciousness—all consciousness—was created at the same moment when the universe was created.   The soul exists and it must be anchored to our moment of cosmic origin.  This is what Italian astrophysicist Paola Zizzi terms the "Big Wow," shorthand for her description of the connection between "the very early quantum computing universe and our mind."

After death, there's a physical mechanism for consciousness that persists after death.  It enters the universe at large, and it gets picked back up again by someone or something else.  At the Division of Perceptual Studies, there are file cabinets bulging with case studies of people who think they know. Most of them are children who remember past lives: who they were, where they lived, what they looked like, what work they did, all sorts of details of a life. 

Compare with this science mag article:

nolinks://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/soul-search/article_view?b_start:int=2&-C=

I will quote a bit from it below:

Even if that idea answers where consciousness comes from, it raises the question: Where did the Planck-scale processes that cause it come from Penrose's answer: They came from the Big Bang. In this view, consciousness—all consciousness—was created at the same moment when the universe was created. If the soul exists, it, too, might be anchored to our moment of cosmic origin. This is what Italian astrophysicist Paola Zizzi terms the "Big Wow," shorthand for her description of the connection between "the very early quantum computing universe and our mind."

Penrose's ideas hint at a physical mechanism for consciousness that persists after death. "If a patient isn't revived," Hameroff says, "it enters the universe at large, and maybe it gets picked back up again by someone someday, who knows?" At the Division of Perceptual Studies, there are file cabinets bulging with case studies of people who think they know. Most of them are children who remember past lives: who they were, where they lived, what they looked like, what work they did, all sorts of details of a life.

Game Over. 

A.

[Bayes]

Nice work atlantis! 

[simon]

"I told you so!" 

Whether Simon belives in this Monk stuff or not he was still 100% correct about what he said about you Spike. He forgot to mention though that you are also a coward and a chicken. Puk puk puk puk puuuuuuk!  (refering off course your no-show)

well I don't necessarily "believe" in it, I just like to try and keep an open mind.  quantum physics is beyond me, and there are many things people do not necessarily understand or can explain or prove (uh, I think people have heard of "God", for instance?  Who has a rather popular world-wide following, in various forms), and I have read books about things like remote viewing, which apparently has been proven, though is pretty hard to explain, and a book I read a while back called Future Memory was quite interesting (the future has already happened, or something like that), I don't know, it's interesting stuff, and quite frankly, no worse than any of the thousands of systems that have been devised to beat roulette, none of which, last I checked, have been proven to beat the wheel, either.

[Spike!]

Kudo's to Atlantis. He changed just enough of words to make research difficult.

Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."

[col1879]

************************* After death, there's a physical mechanism for consciousness that persists after death.  It enters the universe at large, and it gets picked back up again by someone or something else.*************************I

After death you evolve and go to a better place which is separate from this reality. Caterpillar to butterfly. It does not enter the universe, in the next stage the 'universe' is not a valid construct- it does not exist. Your 'soul' does not come back, reformed, but rather evolves to the next stage which is void of construct- impossible to imagine.

I like tropical fish and currently have two tanks. If I take a wee fishy out, hold it by it's tail and say to it (pointing at the television) "Over there is my 42 inch Samsung", look over to towards the window and say "and there, mr fishy, are some curtains, a lamp and a cabinet....." It wouldn't work, fish don't speak English!

Trying to imagine what the existence you have after death is like is the same as the problem for the fish. You cannot imagine the indescribable. The universe is just one big aquarium. When you die and get taken out you do not get plopped back in!

***********************This appears to be true for the ethereal world, is certainly true for special relativity, and is currently being explored for general relativity and even the game of roulette. Having a way to handle Energy on the same footing may helps to draw these diverse strands together.  This is why I'm here.******************************

You are here because:

You beat the odds, fought hard and got inside that egg

You were born where you were born and in to your lifestyle (I take it you did not grow up in extreme poverty where a high percentage starve to death?)

You live at a point in human evolution where the internet exists.

Ultimately you were here, are not here now, and will or will not be here again! But where are you now? You cannot be here and be somewhere else at the same time, can you?

Ultimately you can be everywhere at the same time. You are. That's what deja vu is. Everything I have ever did has already happened. Everything that I am going to do has also already happened, I am just catching up. What is happenning now is the centre, the source of the 'energy' that you believe in.

Conclusion: don't think about things too much, it's pointless. Enjoy life as much as you can and concentrate on doing the things in life that make you happy. Whether you want to or not, it's already happened and will continue to happen! lol

[iggiv]

Religions and believes are capable of extraordinary things.

Give him a chance maybe we can learn something.

Regards
MAX

maybe we can, but not about roulette certainly

[MauiSunset]

I can't help myself I've got to put in my 2 cents worth.

Dying is simply flipping the on switch to off.

Then nothing..............

I hate to bring up the topic of Santa Claus next.....

[MauiSunset]

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