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Started by gizmotron, July 26, 2010, 02:09:52 AM

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pins

perhaps some of your pupils could verify that they are winning.   i myself fail to see how any system for roulette would work. after all you can back 35 numbers and lose. past results have no meaning. so its blind chance.

gizmotron

Quote from: pins on November 18, 2010, 11:23:08 PM
...past results have no meaning.

Sure they do. A stretch of past spins can be half way through a continuing trend. That's as clear case of "meaning" as anything. It's not the meaningfulness of it that matters anyway. It's the person's ability to relate to that meaning. It's the person's capacity to use strategies at appropriate times that are beneficial.

But go ahead. Stay stuck on your impression of meaningless things. If you can't see anything then don't bother giving advice regarding it. You are not an expert. You are not qualified to describe this. You are just using an uneducated guess.

pins

how could you be a expert on roulette.  the wheel has no memory. like every body else you guess the next number.
i do not want to hurt your feelings. but you are deluding yourself. good luck.

gizmotron

Quote from: pins on November 19, 2010, 05:56:03 PM
how could you be a expert on roulette.  the wheel has no memory. like every body else you guess the next number.
I do not want to hurt your feelings. but you are deluding yourself. good luck.

That's funny. An ameba tells one next to it in the petri dish that the world is flat.

Just for the record I never guess the next number. Now figure that out for your simpleton conclusions. You are completely blind to the notion of characteristics to randomness yet you attempt to dazzle us all with your immature conclusions. Spare me the neophyte rhetoric.

pins

the proof of the pudding is in the eating. no replies from your pupils.

cheese

Quote from: pins on November 19, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
the proof of the pudding is in the eating. no replies from your pupils.

All of Gizmo's students were on a bus for a field trip to a casino and they were arrested and deported because they were all illegals. Very sad.

Kelly

QuotePeople in my own family have shown no interest in this, even after proving it to them.

I guess you didn`t return from the casino in a Lamborghini then.  Trust me, your family would show a lot more interest in it, if it took money enough out of the casinos to lift your and their  life to a higher financial state.  If you come home empty handed, they will just look at it as a waste of time.

xman1970

Quote from: cheese on November 20, 2010, 01:12:02 AM
All of Gizmo's students were on a bus for a field trip to a casino and they were arrested and deported because they were all illegals. Very sad.

Appatently it took the police hours to get all the tongues "unlicked" from the windows........ :'(

gizmotron

Quote from: Kelly on November 20, 2010, 02:22:21 AM
I guess you didn`t return from the casino in a Lamborghini then.  Trust me, your family would show a lot more interest in it, if it took money enough out of the casinos to lift your and their  life to a higher financial state.  If you come home empty handed, they will just look at it as a waste of time.

Wrong again. It's the only evidence easily detectable here. The two in my family that I shared it with have no interests in gambling. They are both in careers that are centered around psychology. One actually treats problem gamblers from time to time. They don't want to be seen anywhere having an interest in gambling. It goes to their credibility in their community. On top of that they don't relate to common betting techniques as they don't have any experience in placing bets. I was never able to get them to a comfortable stage. They both admitted that they understood how it works. They also know that it's not easy. It takes brains and hard work.

I don't know why I bother. Skeptics have to imagine rationalizations based on speculation. Funny thing about them though. The don't have the guts to get together and work on strategies based on trends. It's always that big fat nothing. That black hole in the middle of nowhere where all their opinions come from. Not one decent experiment in all these years. That absence of investigation seems almost nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to a defense reaction. All we ever get from them is nothing but unqualified opinion. Where are the math experiments that deal with trends and calculated advantage? Is the math world devoid of intelligent systems?

Kelly

Not many people are interested in roulette systems because most people don`t believe in them. If they on the contrary DO work, they will generate money as a result and when that amount is getting big enough it starts to create interest by the surroundings.  The part where money is actually generated is usually the missing link, so fancy theories becomes highly uninteresting because thats what they are: just theories. Pretty worthless if they don`t generate what we all go to the casino for: Winning money and preferbly a lot of them.

Phrases like im bored just winning and winning is obviously invented by someone who might have won a bit but not serious money. I have yet to see a big consistent winner who is not fueled up by adrenalin and ethusiasm and who don`t  want to do it again and again and is also able to show the cash.   

A long story short: Im not impressed by fancy theories that not only lacks the math proof but also the cash proof.  Whats is left then:


Empty words.

gizmotron

Quote from: Kelly on November 20, 2010, 03:47:12 PM
Empty words.

Here are some more: "...in the early 1990s Gonzalo Garcia-Pelayo took massive numbers of observations of the roulette wheels at the Casino de Madrid. He then used a computer to make a statistical analysis of his collection of observations. As expected he found statistical evidence of biased wheels. He then used a rotating team of family members to bet on the most likely numbers. Once the Casino de Madrid owners realised what was happening, they banned Gonzalo from the casino entirely. The casino operators went further, taking Gonzalo to court for cheating. The Spanish courts ruled in Gonzalo's favour, saying that he had not influenced the actual operation of the casino's roulette wheels. Gonzalo was able to win well over a million euros over several years."

Real wheel bias was exploited by this family with just 6 spins in 100 above the statistical normal odds. That's all it took for this family to take off millions. Knowing when to increase bets worked for them. It works for Black Jack teams too. It works for me only I still would like to use it. If everyone could do this then nobody would be allowed to do it. So it's a matter of perspective. I like empty words that are later discovered to be true words. It's a hoot. It's a game remember. The point is to win. It's even more fun watching the lab rats try to figure that once they eat all the cheese that then they all starve to death. You are nothing but one of my lab rats.  

cheese

Quote from: Kelly on November 20, 2010, 02:22:21 AM
Trust me, your family would show a lot more interest in it, if it took money enough out of the casinos to lift your and their  life to a higher financial state. 

Not Gizmo's family, they're special. Even in the worst economy since the Depression, they have no interest in the millions Gizmo could teach them to win. Thats because its all on paper, they don't see him winning dime one.

gizmotron

Quote from: cheese on November 20, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
Not Gizmo's family, they're special. Even in the worst economy since the Depression, they have no interest in the millions Gizmo could teach them to win. Thats because its all on paper, they don't see him winning dime one.

This is an example displaying the intelligence of fellow Cheese.
As you can see, it always begs the question, who cut the Cheese.

bombus


This thread was created for recruitment purposes.

The recruitment offer is now closed, so I see no reason for this thread to continue.

I will lock it for now and let Steve decide its fate when he logs into the forum again.

Cheers.

bombus

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