Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer

[Mr J]

Wrong answer mister bias guy.

As far as asking him the same stuff over and over......he can answer it and its done, IS THAT NOT CORRECT??

Example being.....he says I was banned here twice. Thats fine to say it but NOW, back it up. His hit-n-run bulls**t won't fly, not with me. Isn't the REAL SOLUTION, he should not be spreading lies and THEN, I dont need to keep re-asking what the heck he is talking about. You left that piece of information out Kelly.

Ken

[Kelly]

Yeah i know, how can one possibly go on living after such outragious statements.  After that it is certainly okay to say that you &%%#%ed his sister, even though it has nothing to do with the case or reality.

Go do some scuba diving in Thailand or something. Just DOOO something. You need to get out.

[iggiv]

i am not going to discuss anyone's virtual personal behaviour now, but i have some reasons to believe that he is a real pro, not just "portrays himself" as if he is. He is also helpful and nice if u don't fight him and try to listen to.
I personally have a lot of respect to him (doesn't mean i disrespect others because i don't agree with their opinions).

and for sure i don't believe that "his days are over"

[Steve]

Kelly, I was promoting bias software to casinos at one stage, because my players almost never use it. Bias analysis is insignificant compared to other methods to beat roulette. It doesnt affect us. I made it clear on that site that first and foremost I'm a player. And if snow didnt want to give his address, he could have used a forwarding service. I have no interest in who he is or where he lives. I sure as hell wouldnt send anything significant to casinos or help them in any significant way. I've been contacted by several casino consultants now and they all get the same response.

[Steve]

btw, I'm not doubting Snow's knowledge of bias analysis. The issue is I know literally hundreds of professional players. Next to none of them bother with bias. Why? . . because there are much, much better ways to beat roulette. To the point where nobody really bothers with it anymore.

The exception is what I call "dynamic bias", but even that requires far more work than other methods. Herb doesnt seem to know any better, which is why he uses bias - a comparatively poor method. Why would any "pro" do this?

Dynamic bias is a bias that is temporary, or more it moves depending on conditions. Casino bias analysis software does not detect it.

Do my players do bias analysis over 300 spins? Nope. Only one idiot claims that. But can it be done? To a degree, yes. Not for single number. For larger sectors only, and for so few spins you need validation visually.

[Kelly]

The big difference is that he is, with a few exeptions, taking more money out of the casinos than anyone else on these boards because he is actually out there doing it. It might not be the most profitable way, still, he is pulling more money out than anyone in here. Its not something i got from him, but from mutual friends that happens to know him from the casinos, actually he has never told me how much he wins and i have never asked.

The last funny incident was that Kaisan wrote after being in Vegas: "I think i met one of your friends the other day he told me to say hello" almost at the same time i got a mail from snow "I met Kaisan today, he tells me to say hello". I mention him because most peple has heard about him, but there are also a few known european pro players, which are not known to the public that knows him and has at some point played in his "team". (They are known to Barnett though, as i found out).

You can advertise your computers all you like, as i see it most players drops out because they cant find conditions, cant find a bankroll, cant find the time, etc.  There really aren`t many consistent players.  Personally i can "easyli" spot a computer player or VB player at a table, and i really dont see these hundreds of players anywhere.

[iggiv]

Ken, I don't want to go to deep into your quarrels with Herb,  but I saw some of  them on this board, and what I saw from him was mostly some funny jokes, and as I understood u said to him pretty nasty things in return to his jokes. That's why
basically he left this forum after u became a Mod. I don't have anything against u and I certainly don't know your and Herb's love story in detail but I saw what I saw. Maybe I am wrong and I don't know the whole story...but making fun of someone's roulette knowledge is not as bad as insulting on very personal level....

Tell me that I know nothing about roulette and I guess I can easily swallow this opinion and won't take it as a personal insult.

[Steve]

Whether you believe it or not, I have no doubt what my partners and I take from casino is greater than anyone on the boards. Let's not argue this point though - the truth may never be known.

Whatever the case is with snow, yes if he really is doing it, he's doing it the hard way. There is just no point to it, if you know better - it's backwards for a "pro". This is my point. In my last public demo, over 90% accuracy on 15 numbers, bouncy ivorine, predictions 13 seconds before ball falls, mk7 velstone huxley, 3 DDs.. one with opposing side. The conditions were far from easy. Development of my technology has been full time for years, but I havent done it alone. Many people saw it. We even pulled apart the wheel at the end to show there were no magnets or anything. No chance bias analysis of any kind can compete with that. These were not some basic single DD conditions with no ball bounce. These were conditions more difficult than the average wheel. It is a pitty you didnt want to proceed with testing of my computers, because they truly are what I say they are. I would have especially loved you to verify my results from using the same switch arrangement for FFA and my basic computer. So much for mobile phones not being able to deal with timing errors. Mine deals better than FFA. Forester refused this testing in person.

There is no denying that some players get attention. Barnett has access to casino information and knows a lot of general information, but he is still subject to ignorance. It is not to say others dont do a better job of staying covert. While some of my players have won upwards of $30,000 in a session, it is very rare. This can be done with or without computers, with or without what I teach. It is more about suitable condtions and bankroll. Mostly my players take anywhere from $100 - $1000 or so per session which may seem small, but over the long term is a different story.

As for condtions for computers, it depends on what computer you're talking about. If you mean one that does much what VB does (like foresters ones), then sure you need to pay greater attention to the conditions. It is typical that a difference of 1s in rotor speed makes normal scatter charts obsolete. There is much more going on than simple "ball falls and X time and bounces X pockets".

As it is now, I have about 700 system players, and well over 100 computer players. Only a fraction are actually "active". This is for many reasons. The latest software for the system will change this as it adds to practicality and better automation. Then with the use of phones to apply the system, players will be able to have everything done near automatically - bets before ball release, and with little understanding of what is actually being done. This also means more pattern types being used without the need to give full disclosure of what I work hard to develop. Plus not everyone is suited to advantage play. You dont see them because the world is a big place, and they are under non-disclosure. But many are on the forums. They read this.

Every challenge I've ever done has been successful. This one (online casino) will be no different. As I said, I have done it before, and so have my players. Everything I have said is the absolute truth, and because people havent done it themselves because they cant, they are quick to call me names. I dont do challenges for glory or showing off - it is to expose lies, ESPECIALLY from people who I know have far inferior technology and bluntly far less knowledge, yet they call me the scammer. Whether or not I do challenges, whether or not you believe what I say, I still sleep comfortably knowing the truth.

Time reveals all anyway.

[Steve]

Neither snow and forester have come close, to computers I've developed. I sincerely believe, realistically, without prejudice or ego, that nobody on earth knows roulette better than I do.

AND SNOW: WHEN YOU SAY MY SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT. MY SYSTEM HAS MANY PARTS, AND THEY ARE ALL LEGITIMATE AP. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CUSTOM VARIANTS, THEY ARE THE COMBINATION OF VARIOUS METHODS AND PATTERNS ROLLED INTO ONE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BIAS ANALYSIS.

[Mr J]

Ken, I don't want to go to deep into your quarrels with Herb,  but I saw some of  them on this board, and what I saw from him was mostly some funny jokes, and as I understood u said to him pretty nasty things in return to his jokes. That's why
basically he left this forum after u became a Mod. I don't have anything against u and I certainly don't know your and Herb's love story in detail but I saw what I saw. Maybe I am wrong and I don't know the whole story...but making fun of someone's roulette knowledge is not as bad as insulting on very personal level....

Tell me that I know nothing about roulette and I guess I can easily swallow this opinion and won't take it as a personal insult.

Ohhh, so Snowjob was joking with me all along? I guess we have different definitions of 'joking'. Snowjob (Herb) LEFT this board? Left? I recall a different story.

Ken

[iggiv]

Ohhh, so Snowjob was joking with me all along? I guess we have different definitions of 'joking'. Snowjob (Herb) LEFT this board? Left? I recall a different story.

Ken

Ken, i consider both u and Herb good men and would love to see u reconcileate with him.  especially now when u r a Mod and u r a very good Mod i think. I think we have to get over our past quarrels and fights which only help the world imperialism (that's a joke in Russian style)

[iggiv]

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