Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer

[Steve]

How will I know that you actually won the money and that you didn't just add money to your account.  Don't I need a password to track the true account history?

All transactions are logged. When I'm done, I'll give you the password so you can see all transactions.

Also please send me your shipping address so I can send you my computer to test.

[Herb6]

There are a what could be some big loopholes here.  
Without the password, I can't really see what's going on with the account.  


Are you planning on using an RC for this test?

[Steve]

Footage too bad for that.

Did you receive the account name?

Please send your shipping address.

And you do not need to see things on a day to day basis. Remember, the transaction history is all there, day by day, bet by bet. You will see it all. I just cant change that. The password at the end is all you need to see all the history. Besides hacking the server or bribing the casino staff, explain to me how there is potential for loophole in such circumstances.

PS - again please dont mention casino names.

[Herb6]

And you do not need to see things on a day to day basis. Remember, the transaction history is all there, day by day, bet by bet. You will see it all. I just cant change that. The password at the end is all you need to see all the history. Besides hacking the server or bribing the casino staff, explain to me how there is potential for loophole in such circumstances.

Without a password, I can't log into the account.  This means that I can't verify that the money was actually won and not just deposited or transferred into the account.  How would I know whether or not you had just found a clever way to transfer money into the account in order to create the illusion of a win?

Looking back after the fact really doesn't prove much, does it?  I'd rather see the day by day progress as it happens.


There appears to be just too many  holes in this kind of a test.  

I will forward my shipping info.

-Herb

[Steve]

Without a password, I can't log into the account.  Therefore, I can't verify that the money was actually won and not just deposited into the account.  Looking back after the fact really doesn't prove much, does it?  I'd rather see the day by day progress as it happens.

Again if you log in with a completely different ip, it red flags the account. That's why you only login at the end. Keep in mind that:

1. The account name will not change

2. The history on a day by day and bet by bet basis will all be there. You can even see individual bets.

Explain to me how there is potential for a loophole under these circumstances. You say there are too many holes. Please explain 2.

Please confirm you received the account name.

Please send me your shipping address.

[Herb6]

I'd rather see the play as it took place live.  Via a live feed on MSN or Chat etc, you could specify your bet at each spin.  This way someone like Bago could not dispute your results.

This way, I could verify the results were real as well.  

[Steve]

This way, I could verify the results were real.  

Herb are you saying I could fabricate the transaction history inside the account, even though you login and check it all for yourself? Dont you think if I could do that, there's nothing stopping me doing it on a day by day basis? And it is just not practical to do it via live webcam with you, sitting hour after hour.

Please dont ignore the following:

Please confirm you received the account name.
Please send me your shipping address.

[Herb6]

Here's how I'm willing to verify the test is real.

1. Live test only.
2. Via MSN etc...You can provide the predictions before the ball lands at each spin.

This way, you can have results that even Bago can't dispute.

[Steve]

Herb, bago already agreed to the terms. All you need to do is login to the account and check the history. Anyone could do that. It's you because bago trusts you.

Please confirm you received the account name.
Please send me your shipping address.

1. The account name will not change

2. The history on a day by day and bet by bet basis will all be there. You can even see individual bets.

Explain to me how there is potential for a loophole under these circumstances. You say there are too many holes. Please explain 2.

This is not about what you'd rather do or what you find acceptable. It is a very simple thing.

[Herb6]

Apparently, Bago lacks the ability to foresee potential flaws with the test.  

Positive test results using the proceedure that you have described could prove that your method works, however, it could also prove that you are just very clever.

Let me do some research over the next 24 hours.  I'll get back to you tomorrow at this time.


By the way, what's wrong with simply doing a live test?

Thanks,

Herb.

[Steve]

Apparently, Bago lacks the ability to foresee potential flaws with the test. 

even he understands the bet and transaction history is very detailed, and realistically I'm not going to be able to change the bet history and transaction logs.

By the way, what's wrong with simply doing a live test?

Mainly it would mean sitting online with you for hours at a time, even though our timezones are completely opposite - it's hard enough for me to find the time for this nonsense (days and weeks of focus), let alone coordinate mutually convenient times with you to be online when you're a world away.

Please confirm you received the account name.
Please send me your shipping address.

[I have cookies]

it's hard enough for me to find the time for this nonsense

How could it be nonsense ?
If I go back and read u even offer some % for some one like H to verify the truth behind u RC ...

It would mean the world if some one like H or any other as Kelly would confirm the true nature behind u RC.
I assume that is the hole point - to find some one special wish no one would dear argue against and come with back talk or negative tendency towards and about u RC.

You make the titel and the post as stiky then how much nonsense is that "Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer" if i might ask as i would like to know what the point is to let some one special or any one as averge JOE verify or not verify u RC being the real thing or just one other false positive.

Curios O_o

[Steve]

Se my response below in blue:

How could it be nonsense ?
If I go back and read u even offer some % for some one like H to verify the truth behind u RC ...

I never offered anyone anything for validations. Please, show me any supporting information for that ridiculous claim.

It would mean the world if some one like H or any other as Kelly would confirm the true nature behind u RC.
I assume that is the hole point - to find some one special wish no one would dear argue against and come with back talk or negative tendency towards and about u RC.

The point is to expose false claims - nothing more. I said that with ronjo, and I'm saying it again here. If I wanted to show everything my computers could do, I would have done it already.

You make the titel and the post as stiky then how much nonsense is that "Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer" if I might ask as I would like to know what the point is to let some one special or any one as averge JOE verify or not verify u RC being the real thing or just one other false positive.

Your question is not clear. But this may help: anyone can do basic testing. It is not at all difficult. Ronjo had more than enough experience to do what he did. But he was attacked, accused of being incompetent, and even accused of being me under a fake name.

[I have cookies]

People like you tend to believe rubbish from clowns rather than use your own head, so you direct attacks at me rather than the people that manipulate you.

Steve I will reply to this statment later today and then u will be given the oppertunity not to twist the truth.

1. We will compare u effort and how u meet the public arena.
2. We will discuss math and the false postives and see if we can make a clear overview about what is what.
3. I also have to add this involve the fault regarding your CVs.

Things does not have to be complex - we just flip the coin a coupel of times with statments and words and see how the hide and seek will unfold it self.

4. RC is no mystery at all and same apply to AP in generall.


I wont be a low life but sure will argue aginst how u twist things and run u service and deal with u costumers.
I can give simpel exampels how to offer better solutions towards what u offer - wait and see.

If u belive that u know my mind and that u or any other can twist it you will notice how deadly wrong u are Steve.

O_o

[Steve]

Not a problem. Keep it simple, to the point, keep pride out of it, and follow a logical progression of questions and answers, and keep an open mind... then you'll come to the conclusion that your negative opinion of me is based on assumptions, inaccurate and/or incomplete information, and general ignorance. How do I know this? Because I know my own business.

[Steve]

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