The REAL BIG con artists

[mistarlupo]

After Gizmotron (aka Mark B.) publicly established himself as a system seller, it turns out that his old friend Spike (aka Alfred B.) has been running a 'long con' for even longer:

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( Thank you, Laurance, for the nice read. )

Surprise, surpise. I doubt ANYONE actually did believe it would end in a different way. It screamed scam all over it. But these guys are well ahead of the amateur system sellers, I must admit. Be careful.

[Kyla Shooter]

 

[NS]

This is Noble Savage; ex-moderator of Spike & Gizmo.  (lol)

I haven't been here ever since I left, but a friend just contacted me telling me about this, i. e.  Laurence's post AND Gizmo's attempts at "extracting money from the desperate" (so it finally happened huh? ).

Laurence is a very smart guy, it was quite un-clever of Spike to try to fool him.  It's almost unbelievable how low some people are willing to go for money's sake.  Pathetic is the word.

Ah well.

Veritas vincit!
(Truth conquers)

Regards to all,
Marv

[Spike!]

it was quite un-clever of Spike to try to fool him. >>

Poor NS, confused as usual. Are you saying I should have taken the 75K laurance offered? Was I wrong to refuse it because he's a greedy untrustworthy wanker? Please clear this up, there's a good lad... LOL!

[NS]

*shakes head*

[gizmotron]

You guys are just not quite ripe yet. You are all just about a french fry short of a Happy Meal. The worst thing that can happen is that somebody spills the beans and the grand experiment all comes crashing down. If I prove I'm correct in public then you get a reaction from the casinos. I will have managed to have pulled the wool over your eyes by telling you the truth all these years. It won't be the first time people have had their own human nature used against them as a red herring. What ever you think now you will one day be dragged kicking and screaming to the inevitable end. So have a great time. This is the time of the skeptics.

[Jakkalsdraai]

What a load of rubbish. Spike you are just about out of things to say. Obviously you are a scammer. You could not even attend your own challenge (which you will again not admit to) Same to Gizzy. Only hot air and BS.

[Spike!]

You guys are just not quite ripe yet. You are all just about a french fry short of a Happy Meal. The worst thing that can happen is that somebody spills the beans and the grand experiment all comes crashing down. If I prove I'm correct in public then you get a reaction from the casinos. I will have managed to have pulled the wool over your eyes by telling you the truth all these years. It won't be the first time people have had their own human nature used against them as a red herring. What ever you think now you will one day be dragged kicking and screaming to the inevitable end. So have a great time. This is the time of the skeptics.

Watch out, Gizmo is now claimimg he's going to shut down roulette worldwide. Not since Wendel have we been so frightened.. LOL!

[gizmotron]

Well, the Chinese could send agents over here to torture you for your secrets. There's always that to worry about. 

[Spike!]

*shakes head*

Are you shaking your head because I should have taken the 10K Laurance offered? I must be the worst scammer ever, I turn down 75K, 10K, yet Gizmo is settling for a lousy $500 bucks. I might as well give up scamming, I'm just no good at it.

[Nathan Detroit]

*****Watch out, Gizmo is now claimimg he's going to shut down roulette worldwide. Not since Wendel have we been so frightened.. LOL!*******


The Boyzz frrom Macau won`t like it a bit.

[Steve]

You are all just about a french fry short of a Happy Meal

I take offence to that. I love happy meals. You get cool toys. Except that stupid foam frisby thing, wtf is that about.

[NS]

Spike (aka Alfred B.     )

Actually his real name is not Alfred.

He does go to the casino rather regularly.  He isn't filthy rich nor does he seem like someone who is making any significant amounts from the casinos however.    

His 'long con' as exposed by Laurence is real.  This guy is smart and knows what he's doing.  He doesn't lose anything if it doesn't work though (actually he wins the online attention it gives him), but the "bait" is always cast, no matter what you say about him.

So will this guy take a significant amount of cash if you offer it to him in exchange for teaching you some nonsense which he knows very well won't work? You bet he would, and in doing so, he'll never use his real name or give you any personal details.  If you come here and post about it, you'd have nothing to back it up and he'll refute what you say (he's good at it).  So be careful.    

As for Gizmotron, he is more straightforward and isn't a "conman" so to speak (that makes him better than Spike), just a system seller of some sort, albeit one with more catchy and sophisticated pseudo-expert words than the average seller, but the core is the same.  For $500, he is willing to give you the key to making millions and destroying roulette as we know it.  That says it all.    

Hope that helps.  

Marv

[NS]

I posted Spike's real name and some other stuff in my post above, but it looks like Steve edited my post and took it out.   

Ok fair enough.   

If anyone of you gets approached by Spike via PM or email where he offers to teach or sell you anything, feel welcome to PM me, I can help you.   

Marv

[gizmotron]

As for Gizmotron, he is more straightforward and isn't a "conman" so to speak (that makes him better than Spike), just a system seller of some sort, albeit one with more catchy and sophisticated pseudo-expert words than the average seller, but the core is the same.  For $500, he is willing to give you the key to making millions and destroying roulette as we know it.  That says it all.

That does not actually say it all. I'm teaching a few people per month. It's real one on one discussions, practice, and specific training. I use the internet to use chat and my software to help. What remains to be seen is how long it takes for one person at a time training to have a big enough impact on the casinos so that they react to it. At that time it will say it all. Get this. It will happen and you will have to change your opinion on how many system sellers are wrong. It will be one right, the others all wrong. So it's understandable why you remain a skeptic. It's easy to go along with the crowd. But thanks for the compliment anyway. I don't have shills. I don't bother people with sales pitches all over the place, and I actually turn people away that need their money just to survive.

[gizmotron]

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