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#### Benmaster

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##### Flat betting for Quads, Stars, etc.
October 16, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
Hi everyone!

I decided that the only hope of winning at roulette is by FLAT BETTING!!! If you play a progression, you will eventually lose your bankroll.  To that end, I have (of course) chosen some of Kimo's wheel maps for my bet selection, particularly Quads and Stars.  Here are two ways that I now play, using flat bets.

1) My quads are a little different.  I begin with three numbers, each are 120 degrees apart on the wheel (excluding the zeros).  Eventually, I will post for the European wheel, but for now, you punters will have to put up with American wheel numbers.  Anyway, I track the last number to show, let's say 3.  Then I play 3, 9, and 31.  I call these numbers the "Nuke Trio" or "Nuke Triad".  I keep tracking until I have three different sets of "Nuke Triads", for a total of nine numbers (a "Quad" of sorts).  I flat bet these nine numbers for three spins only.  If I get a winner, I play them for three more spins.  If, at any time, I lose three spins in a row, I start tracking again, until I have nine more numbers.  It's also good to play the three numbers that the first spin in the sequence generates, then on the next spin, add three more (provided they are different than the first spin of the sequence), and add three more until you have 9 numbers.  If you have a win before you get to nine numbers, play the same three or six numbers once more, until a loss, then add three more numbers, until you have nine numbers.
This is more natural and organic than the set, nine-numbered "Quads" from before, and so far the results have been good.  If a zero shows, I bet the two zeros, which will make that quad only eight numbers.  I don't know how I would handle the zero on a European wheel, maybe you could just ignore it.

2) Now, with the six-numbered "Stars", I track the last number to show, let's say 3 again.  Now the six numbers would be 3, 4, 9, 10, 31, 32 on the American wheel.  I play them for three spins (flat betting!).  If I have a hit, then I play that same "Star" for SIX spins, and, if at any point in those six spins, I have a hit, then I play that same "Star" for six more spins.  If I lose six in a row (36 units), then I start betting the "Star" based on the last number to show, but for only three spins.  Let's say it is number 28 on the American wheel.  Then the "star" would contain the numbers 15, 16, 19, 20, 27, and 28.  If one of those numbers hits within the first three spins, I start playing that "Star" for six spins, until I lose six in a row.  If there are no hits in those first three spins, then I switch to the "Star" based on the last number to show, and keep doing that until a "Star" hits within the first three spins.  Then I know that my chosen "Star" is hot, or at least warm, so I play it for six spins, until I lose six spins in a row.

Works for me! Low risk, with good return.  Please set a "stop loss" and a "stop win" goal when you go to the table.
Let me know your thoughts on this, and especially, if you think either of these two strategies can be improved upon.

Best Wishes to all, especially my roulette mentor, Kimo!
-Ben

#### loungeplayer

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##### Re: Flat betting for Quads, Stars, etc.
October 25, 2010, 02:57:25 PM
hi Benmaster, thanks for your sharing..

#### Benmaster

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##### Re: Flat betting for Quads, Stars, etc.
October 25, 2010, 03:14:32 PM
Thanks Loungeplayer,

I am currently testing a similar strategy, using a progression:
(American wheel) If "3" shows, then I bet 3, 9, and 31 for nine spins.  If I have a hit within nine spins, then I keep playing those three numbers until I lose nine spins in a row.  Then I start with another three numbers, based on whatever number showed on that ninth losing spin, let's say "5".  I will then play 5, 29, and 35 for nine spins, but I increase my bet by one unit.  If I get a hit within nine spins, then I go back to a one unit bet and play until I lose nine in a row.  If I play these three numbers for THE FIRST nine spins and get no hits, then I go to the next group of numbers based on the last number to show, and increase my bet one more unit, which would then be three units on each number.  Whenever the current group of numbers gets a hit within the first nine spins, I always go back to a one unit bet and start the progression over again.
So far, this is working pretty well for me.
I'm open to any input or questions you may have about these methods.
Regards,
Ben

#### Pedro

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##### Re: Flat betting for Quads, Stars, etc.
November 24, 2010, 02:36:51 AM
HI Benmaster,

Are you still using this method of play and if so how is it holding up ?

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers Pedro