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[John Gold]

....and now for something completely different!  

I was checking out the tracker developed by Ophis on the other site (it's a brilliant creation) and looking at all the different methods on it. Albalaha's "finest roulette method" caught my eye. I decided to test it a bit using my three columns approach. The same rules apply but obviously a bigger bankroll would be needed. The three column approach could feasibly take the numbers bet on up to 12 however I think that would be pretty rare.

It's just an idea but an interesting tweak to it. It may be that no numbers are hitting three times in 18 spins in one column but coming up plenty in another.

A picture is below just to give you an idea. You can find the original idea over on the other forum (roulette forum.cc)

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p.s. The loss at -95 should read -98 but the final profit of 14 is right, lol.

[John Gold]

Another quick game this time!

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One good thing about the three column approach with this is that it could be possible to get a double or triple hit on the same spin because of the bet placements for the second and third column.

[superman]

Hi John, I've been following your thread with interest, I coded albalas FMODR into a bot it does work well but there does come a time, too often too, when the double repeats don't hit that 3rd time, now, he does say at that point to flat bet, I tried all different durations to start the flat betting then re-instate the progression after a hit, I think the best I found was after 16 losses in a row I went flat bet until a win, again it did work well but as usual there somes another round of no hits straight after 1 hit so you never recover the progression and it spirals out of control, depending where you are playing it reaches table limits fast too.

[John Gold]

Cheers Superman,

The three column approach could help it along a bit until the day comes (and it will) when all three columns get shy about jumping from 2 to 3 hits. Maybe a stop loss would be the key here. I am going to play about with it a bit and see what happens.

[John Gold]

Another couple of games to finish off with.

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I remember trying a few methods something similar to this a few years ago and they did not lead me anywhere.
The difference is that I did not limit the numbers to bet and I also did not incorporate an idea like what Superman suggested of reverting back to flat betting after a string of losses. My gut tells me it probably won't work. The problem is early tests always look promising. I am sure that is some kind of 'gamblers curse' 

[John Gold]

Back to the previous method concerning the sleeping numbers in three columns.

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This was a tougher session but still came out ahead.

[medo]

It really look promesing John,but the only thing that worries me
would it be possible playing it on a real live table.As have tried it
with one of my methods/like you did with Albalahas/and I just
couldn't do it in time with 'no more bets pls'.....maybe after some
head training....as I do it all from head/no spreadsheets/once I
learn a method from A to Z..........

[John Gold]

Hello Medo,

I will take my hat off to you if you can do this in your head. 

Tracker wheels are the way to go in a B+M casino. All you need is a small round disc with the numbers displayed around the outside in their wheel formation. (0,32,15,19 etc...) Have a smaller rotating disc on the inside with numbers starting from 0 through to 36. (0,1,2,3 etc...) Point the 0 on the inner disc towards the current number.

example: The 0 on the inner rotating disc is pointing at 32 because that is the current number. The next number out is 8. Now look around to the outer disc where the 8 is. If you look below to the inner rotating disc, you should see the number 14. Put an X on both the outer 8 and the inner 14. Now rotate the 0 on the inner disk to underneath the 8 on the outer disk. This will show you what numbers have come out using my column 1 and column 2 approach.
You will also need a seperate tracker for the third column.

Airball roulette is ideal for this because you get a fixed time to place bets and you can get into a rhythm. I was asked on several occasions to stop using the discs on live tables by the management of a few casinos. They don't seem to mind me using them at airball machines or the LCD display screens hooked up to the live wheels.

Another option is to have a playing partner to reduce the workload. Most of the live online casinos give me plenty of time to use the trackers. A lot of my methods take some working and I like to break my sessions up throughout the day. I find live online casinos ideal for that. Luckily I have about 10 B+M casinos all within a 15-20 mile radius that I can choose from as well.

[John Gold]

I suppose one of the reasons the casinos don't like me using the trackers at the tables is because they assume I am playing some kind of ballistics/dealers signature method.

One thing I did notice is that when the tables get busy and a few of the players are winning creating a lot of work for the dealer, this is the time when some kind of signature can present itself. A tracker can help you identify these situations. The trick is to get in and get out with a profit in such circumstances because what I found is the signature tends to be just a temporary bias. Some dealers seem to fall into the trap more than others.

[John Gold]

This game was short and sweet. 

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You can't get any better than hitting a triple *** on the first spin.

I will leave things there for now because I think that just about wraps things up.

I am still looking for a programmer to help me develop some of my other ideas so that I can share them with you guys. I will keep you all informed of my progress.

Cheers 

[John Gold]

I was going to save this one for next time but hey what the heck!

See the picture below:

After 37 spins...

26/37 in the first column = 11 sleepers.

23/37 in the second column = 14 sleepers.

26/37 in the third column = 11 sleepers.

Typical 'rule of the third' stuff. Now my figures show me that after the second cycle of 37 spins, you end up with an average of 4 numbers left in each column. So 8 out of the 12 will roughly appear (there's that rule again  )

The plan is to wait for any of the sleepers to appear from the first cycle of 37 in any of the three columns. Then back them for the remainder of the cycle or quit when you feel happy you have made a decent profit. Or alternatively fix a stop loss.

Now this is easy to track and play compared to a few of the other methods I have shown you recently.

Like I said in another thread, you need a few tricks in your bag. This is another one. You gotta love them double hits!

enjoy  

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In the second cycle, numbers with a * next to them indicate a sleeper has appeared.
Numbers with a - next to them indicate a repeat from the first cycle.

[John Gold]

The one thing I like about this alternative method is that the outlay is not as high. A double or triple hits would give the balance a healthy boost.

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[John Gold]

One thing to note: I did not use any progressions in the above 2 examples. It may not even be necessary to go down that road. Besides, things can get out of hand pretty quickly if you need to keep adding a few numbers and the losing hits keep coming. Maybe the potential double and triple hits can keep this afloat just flat betting. Time will tell.

[John Gold]

They don't make 'em like this anymore, lol.

nolinks://youtu.be/kUmusWYw4nM

[John Gold]

Certainly the drawdowns don't appear to be as severe using this alternative method.

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The third column produced a bit of a nightmare scenario from spin 34 to spin to spin 54. There was not one original number (sleeper) that appeared in all that time. So 13 sleepers slept for 20 spins.

[John Gold]

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