Can the game of Roulette be beat by attacking it with a system?

[donik777]

Hello Rouletteslayer! I sent you private message, please read my message.  Donik777.

[Valex]

I think most people don't get the big picture.

Let's take a simple example.

Me and you are playing a game.  I have 6 black balls, you have 5 red balls.
We put them all into a hat.  Then you have to draw one, if it's black, you give me 1 unit, if it's red, I give you 1 unit.  After each game we put all the balls back in the hat.

Basically, I have an edge on you, as I have 1 more ball of my color in the hat, but, that doesen't mean you can't beat me on a long run.  It's really possible, try it yourself. . .

Even online roulette can be beaten easily if you have a fair amount of money and a clever system. 

[Mike]

but, that doesen't mean you can't beat me on a long run. 

er.. yes, that's exactly what it means. That IS the big picture - I can't beat you in the long run.

E(X) = 5/11 - 6/11 = -9.1%  (worse than double zero roulette)

QED

[gizmotron]

Here is how you beat a negative expectation game. Don't perform to expectation. That's mostly a fallacy anyway. When you expect something to happen that does not mean it will perform exactly as you expect it to.

If you quit at any up point in your session then you are beating short termed expectations. If you do it every time you go to a casino then you are doing it long term too. There is enough variance in a practical game to be in the winning state at least once before descending below the even point for each session. If you are smart you won't start in a downturn. That's doable by just watching your first bets as virtual bets, just to see that you are not in a steep downturn. Your goal can be 1 unit up and leave. In that way you can beat the odds easily. It's just that greed takes many new players over. They lack self control. There is where the pitfall really exists.

[Mr J]

Definitions (again) = Long Run?


Ken

[FreeRoulette]

The answer is YES, but the system involves cheating.

[schoenpoetser]

After every spin you should compute  the profit percentage of the total betting.Let the computer draw a diagram. In the beginning the diagram can be positive or negative with big amplitudes.The EC give smaller amplitudes than the numbers. After a certain number of spins it is allways negative and the result is - 2,7%  This is the result of every long testruns.
A strategy uses the features of such diagrams.

[MrRpro]

Honestly, and this is just my opinion, I don't think there is a system for roulette that will allow for winning 100% of the time.     

I have developed quite a few systems and tested dozens of others, and some allowed me to win a lot more than I lost.       The problem is, however, that most times it took several wins to equal one loss.     

Recently, I have resigned myself to believe that using Kimo Li's matrix to identify and isolate winning bets is the best course of action for consistent winning.     

Looking at the wheel as a grid instead of how we traditionally see it (as a wheel)  allows you to detect and recognize several patterns for betting that can be exploited.     

I don't use a set system, but I use the matrix chart to identify potential profitable bets, such as rows or columns that have not hit in some time, and adversely, rows and colums that are hitting more than others.       Unhit splits and number clumps (3-6 number stretches - I call them "neighbor streets"), are also easily identified and exploited.     

I came under fire a few years ago and was accused of lying about how much I won.      Now, there are no hard feelings about this, but I wanted to explain a little.     

I do win on probably 90% of my outings, but let me clarify this.     

I go for $30-$50 profit on a trip.       Now, that may not sound like a lot.       But I live 5 miles from the casino and it's easy to go and earn $30 or $40 in a couple of hours.     

Now, I think if you all think about it, you will realize that most of you probably get up $30, $40 or more on any given outing.       However, that's peanuts to most roulette players, so many shoot for more and in the end they end up losing a little.     

But for me, $30 or $40 is great because I can go every day and it hardly costs anything in gas to go.     

I'm happy with that, and it's almost always doable if you can use the matrix to recognize potential betting hot spots.       Just my two cents.       

[MrRpro]

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