The Gizmotron Black Box Validator - A sneak peek

[ReDsQuaD]

Cheese, what is this unproductive arguing? Gizmo comes up with something, why are u just bashing him with no concrete ideas or proving he does anything wrong? I don't necessary mean that he is right or u r wrong, I just can't see your point. U just tell him that his ideas don't work, no examples, no proof, nothing. Is it about roulette at all?
Or your personal relations with Gizmo?

If u have some better tricks in your sleeve why not show?

Yeah i totally agree with you.

[cheese]

It's a computer application. It lets you enter the last spin, you press spin, and then it tells you what to bet for the next spin.

Wow! Can you imagine what this will do when it hits the market? It will shut down online roulette and probably B&M roulette as well. You can have a tiny earphone hidden in a pair of glasses and signal the last spin to an accomplice. He'll then tell you where to place the next bet. The chances of being caught are nil. What will the hit rate be? Will it win at least 60% of the placed bets? More? How much will it cost? This device can make millions for the user, it can't be cheap to buy. How come nobody has thought about this before? Just design a computer program to beat roulette, piece of cake. Dumb little me, I've been doing it the hard way..

[gizmotron]

...Dumb little me, I've been doing it the hard way..

Actually I've discovered something building this. It's more disciplined than I usually am. It will be real interesting to see how fast it can react to change. I know it ferrets out the three states almost perfectly.

[cheese]

Actually I've discovered something building this. It's more disciplined than I usually am. It will be real interesting to see how fast it can react to change. I know it ferrets out the three states almost perfectly.

As soon as you prove here, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it picks winning bets, I make a pledge that I will buy it. I'm serious. All you have to do is prove it. How hard can that be? The question I have is, should I keep playing my method in the casino, or throw it out and wait for the box? Its a real dilemma.

[gizmotron]

Plodding along again:
13, 24, 18, 29, 15, 12, 1, 34, 31, 5, 22, 28, 2, 2, 2,

conRed - maybe - sleeper
conBlack - no
conOdd - maybe - sleeper
conEven - no
conLow - no
conHigh - maybe - single
conDoz1 - no
conDoz2 - maybe - sleeper
conDoz3 - maybe - single
conCol1 - maybe - single
conCol2 - no
conCol3 - yes - sleeper
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true1, false2 221221112122222
true1, false2 122112121122222
false1, true2 121211122122111
false1, true2, true3 222321133123111
true1, false2, true3 133233111211222

true1, false2 221221112122222
false1, false2 122112121122222
false1, false2 121211122122111
false1, true2, false3 222321133123111
false1, false2, true3 133233111211222

true1, false2 221221112122222
true1, false2 122112121122222
false1, false2 121211122122111
false1, true2, false3 222321133123111
false1, false2, true3 133233111211222

false1, false2 221221112122222
false1, false2 122112121122222
false1, false2 121211122122111
false1, false2, false3 222321133123111
false1, false2, true3 133233111211222

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Data charted in my practice software:


| L M H | 1 2 3 |  | B "R"| L  H | O  E | -- ## -- Line
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 --  1
|   X   |     X |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 24 --  2
|   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 --  3
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 --  4
|   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 --  5
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 --  6
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 --  7
|     X | X     |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 34 --  8
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 --  9
| X     |   X   |  |    X | X    | X    | --  5 -- 10
|   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 11
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 12
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 13
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 14
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 15

Looks like it needs more work on the Doz / Col sections.

There, that's better. Boy are those Doz/Col sections messed up. More work debugging to do.

OK, found it. It should look OK now. COOLNESS! This really works so far.

P.S. Yes, I actually did debug this right here while modifying this thread, and adding to it. I have the software report telemetry back from different stages so that I can see it. In a way the software tells me where it's broken. It makes it real easy to fix it that way. And I can see that it is working up to that point too. This text window has a nice layout for looking at this telemetry. The software has a little text window. And I kill two birds with one stone. Also, a few of you might have seen me update it while it took place.

[cheese]

This means less than nothing to most of us. All we care about is a 500 spin test when you place the next bet from actuals supplied be a 3rd party and you pick the winning bet more often than not. Whats the hit rate, you haven't said.

[gizmotron]

This means less than nothing to most of us. All we care about is a 500 spin test when you place the next bet from actuals supplied be a 3rd party and you pick the winning bet more often than not. Whats the hit rate, you haven't said.

Try to show some patience Father Roulette. Only you get to use that magical randomness where no matter what 30 to 40 spins happen you always get to turn them into favorable conditions. Oh, that's right. There are no favorable conditions. That's really bad news for those of us that have winning streaks. It must be tough keeping up that Zen babbling stuff and the cloak of Father Roulette bit?

There you go again, making demands about hit rates. New this season on the cable channels, Father Roulette and His Command Post.

[cheese]

There you go again, making demands about hit rates.

Its a logical question. You claim to have 'vaporware', something that doesn't even exist and never will exist, and you can't make up a mythical hit rate to go with it? C'mon, sure you can..

[gizmotron]

Oh yeah, Father Roulette of harping again... Blah Blah Blah!

So here is history being made. This is from the screen of the Black Box Validator software. It's the first time that the screen properly executed  & displayed correctly. This is the actual cut and paste from it.

<<<< -- Winner! -- >>>>
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Your running total is now at -30

Place a bet of 10 on Column 2
Place a bet of 10 on Column 3

[bombus]

Oh yeah, Father Roulette of harping again... Blah Blah Blah!

So here is history being made. This is from the screen of the Black Box Validator software. It's the first time that the screen properly executed  & displayed correctly. This is the actual cut and paste from it.

<<<< -- Winner! -- >>>>
-----------------------
Your running total is now at -30

Place a bet of 10 on Column 2
Place a bet of 10 on Column 3

<<<< -- 0 -- >>>>

<<<< -- Loser! -- >>>>

<<<< -- Shit! -- >>>>

Um, place all you have on black.

<<<< -- 1 -- >>>>

<<<< -- Shit, shit, shit! -- >>>>

That's it, I'm outa here...

[/size]


Only joking gizmo...

[cheese]

That is hilarious, Bombus.

[gizmotron]

That was funny. I learned everything I know about Roulette from Spike. Cheese has set a new low for himself. Some days are far better than others.

[cheese]

I learned everything I know about Roulette from Spike.

Tell us something we don't already know.

[gizmotron]

It's a proud moment for me.

<<<< -- Winner! -- >>>>
-----------------------
Your running total is now at 150

Place a bet of 50 on Dozen 1
Place a bet of 50 on Dozen 3

I have it going into and out of attack mode. I have one last thing to add to it. I want to provide a session difficulty warning that it's had very few attack opportunities and when they were tried that didn't win enough to make that session worth the trouble.

This software makes bets after 12 spins have been entered. It then places a bet somewhere no matter what. There are no not bet spins. That alone reduces my chance to win. If you were to use it to play online you could sit out spins. Other than that, basically it's done. For now I'm going to power test it looking for bugs. I'm then going to offer it to a few existing students to see what they think during a beta test. And then! Guess what? I'm going to make it available to everyone here to try it out. Everyone will be able to demo this. You will use your own spins from your own sources.

[gizmotron]

What the heck. Let's give this a go. I have no idea if it wins or loses. It's designed to attempt to not bet big when conditions are  worse. It attacks when conditions are best. It should produce losing streaks as well as winning streaks. I have no idea how long it will take to reach a good win.

It's not set to quit at a certain win goal.

This is an untested Beta. It might have bugs. It has never locked up. There are no memory leaks. Please report feature requests. It's intentionally minimal.

nolinks://home.earthlink.net/~gizmotron/getbetaGBB.exe

This is a self extracting archive. It contains a simple installation program. It will place a shortcut icon on your desktop. It comes with an un-installer in your programs folder.

I can't think of a better way to do this. I have no idea if I beat Roulette with it or not. By everything I've learned about mechanical rule based systems this should not be able to out perform the house's edge. But it might. It will take a lot of testing to see if it does the job.

I have not placed the session difficulty warning layer in this yet. Good luck. And please don't use it at a real casino. In some cases it might be against the law. That's on you if you are that dumb. I take no responsibility if you break any laws. It might be legal to use it while gambling on-line. It could be suggested that it's a technical adviser.

[gizmotron]

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