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Using the 4/10, The 77 Craps System(W/Ricochet) & The 2,3,11 & 12 Craps Systems

Started by W7, May 07, 2011, 12:58:43 AM

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W7

Earth White-Light-Generators,

  My Broadband is down......so..... I am on a 56K hard-wired  telephone line.

  I  went to Costco today and bought a battery for my Ford F-150.   It was $103.00 !  :angry2:

   It seem the Ca. government  wants  to take everything we own ?   When I built my house in 1986, I drew-up my own house plans on a second-hand yard sale drafting table, went to our just opened Home Depot with my Father's 25 ft 1955 Mack Diesel flatbed Bee truck and bought $22,000.00 in wood, windows,doors, many rolls of 12/2 house wiring and took it to my 1/2 acre lot, on the Kings River.    I  put it together ( with my hired subs help  ) into a 1,512 square foot, 3 bedroom house.  

 I put in  valeted ceilings, a wall safe and floor safe (  in the concrete foundation ) seven 52-inch room fans and wall-hung 1920's pisser's I bought off an old plummer, in a local bar for $20.00 each.  They came out of a Lemoore,Ca. bar that burned down.

   When my home-made  building plans were approved, by our local  County's Building Dept., my permit  fees came to + $133.00.

      I no longer work,...so... I thought I would see about doing it again.....so.... I lined-up a corner lot, at the other end of my street  and called the County's Building Dept. to see what a new building permit would cost ?

    I about fell out of my chair.....+$30,000.00 !   :diablo: :diablo:     They have all kinds of add-on fees put into a new building permit.... yep ! ........  Inviro' Impact fees up the Wa-Zoo !  :angry2:

 That killed that  idea  :skull:!

   I spent most of my day handicapping " 72 Hours at the Craps Table "  using... " 3+ CAPPING"  with the  5-step double-up progression and JP's..."  RICOCHET SYSTEM."

  I used the above 3+ Capping at Harraha's Ricon and at  the Paula Indian Casino in Northern SD on my last trip.   I had to get home so I played card-craps for  just 45 minutes at Harraha's and 35 minutes at the Paula Casino.

  I cashed $1,750.00 at Harraha's  and $1,275.00 at the Paula Casino.   :yahoo: :good: :thumbsup: :dance1:

  I was playing 3+Capping at the Paula Casino, an awesome looking Casino,  and the player to my right saw I was playing the DP side and he said :

" I AM NOT PLAYING NEXT TO A DP PLAYER !"....so...in a huff....he picked-up his chips and left...how rude !  :spiteful:

  Boy.... this way of play is going to have me moving to Vegas !   :dance1:   ( I'm looking for a house in Vegas now ...using the web )

     When I get my Broadband back, after Midnight, I will post stats. from ...." 72 Hours At The Craps Table."  :rtfm:

 Party On White-Lights !  
Jim



W7

Yo...Screwed-by-the-Wal-Street-Crooks-Fellow Earthbounds.... :swoon: :o :o :o :o :angry2:

   The IRS sent me a letter saying they checked-in my tax return and then they lost it .....hummmmmm ?

  The first page of " 72 Hours At The Craps Table"  starts on page #5.  If you have the 14,967 back-to-back craps roll book, you can follow along starting on page #5.

   I am using the 3+Capping... Not 4+Capping  because it works alot better with more plays per hour.

   The first play is a DP-Capping-play leading into a PL $$$ play and it does not have the RICOCHET or the player-Hedging

bias that  a string of  PL wins leading into the DP-$$$-play has.

 Therefore, we bet 4 times less when using the 5-step progression.... 50,100,200,400,800  vs 200,400,800,1,200, 1,600.

  PAGE #5 :

67
2
47
3
97
87
97
66.....Capped !
57 =  -$50.00
88 = +$100.00 ..... net = +$50.00

===========================================================

88
66
1010
55
67 = ....Capped !
967

 A quick-scan of previous numbers ( it take only a mili-second ) :

#5....2 rolls ago
#9....5 rolls ago
#10...9 rolls ago
#4....12 rolls ago.....#4 is the longest " no show " number & our 100% lay-bet hedge # to protect our DP  C/0 bet .  :good:

 We put up a  $400.00 " no 4 " Pre- C/0 Lay bet on the 4 and at the same time put $200.00 in the DP box. The shooter rolls a "9" as the point ...so... we take-sown our $400.00 protection bet and wait for the outcome = 967....

RESULTS : ..... A +200.00 win.
======================================================================

67
97
67
2
97
88.............Capped !
7 =............................ +$50.00
=======================================================================

57
97
107
3
67
107
7.......................Capped !
11 =....................................+$50.00

END OF PAGE #5 :  Net = + $350.00

  I am going to do every 5th page   :rtfm: ....so.... next is page #10.  :pleasantry:

Cheers !    

Jim







   

audionut

Hi Jim!

Question for you (please understand NOT a criticism of your play, just a comment)

Why do you use the Ric and RISK that hedge bet when you could use the PATRICK and get the SAME benefit (no 7 hurts you on the come out)?  :smile:

With the money your risking/betting on the hedge number, especially if it hits and you lose the bet, the loss is HUGE!! AND IT'S TOTALLY AVOIDABLE!! :shout:

From JP's board:

The Patrick simply has a different opening move.  Instead of bypassing the C/O, you bet equal amounts on the P/L and the D/P.  These offset each other, 35 out of 36 possible combinations.  On a 12, you loose the P/L and push the D/P.  On a 7,11, 2, or 3, one wins the other looses.  Even steven.

Once the Point is established, you place "free odds" behind the D/P number.  Basically enough to buy $20 in "insurance against the 7.  Now you place the $15 D/P.  Once the D/P travels, take down the free odds.  And go from there.  Same as the ric.

What's the difference? I know JP would tell you that the Patrick is for the smaller bankroll and the ric for a larger bankroll.  This is true as you can always go with the small offsetting P/L-D/P bets or a small free odds.

Personally, I prefer the Patrick as I can avoid the %5 vig on the Lay bet.  Every little bit adds up.

Lets assume a co (come out) roll of a 5.  next roll is a 10, next roll is a 7 out.  Lets see what happens

Patrick: $15 on P/DP. . ok come out roll is a 5.  Now you put 30 odds on DP and 15 on Dont come. . . . next roll is the 10, your DC goes to the 10 and you take down your odds on the DP.  Now the 7 hits. . . . . P/dp is a wash. . . . . and you win with pso.  You never have to worry about the 41 no 10 biteing you.

On the ric with the same numbers you bypass he CO all together. . so 5 becomes the point.  you put up a 41 no 10 to protect your now 15 DC. . . the fricken 10 comes. . . . you loose the 41 on the no 10 and now your 15 dont come goes to the 10. . . . then 7 out of which you win 15 but lost 41 on the no 10 so you are down 26 for that series.

The patrick will give you protection against the quick 10 biteing you ever again.  But you get crap fom the dealers sometime where the ric you dont.  Me, The crap they give me dont bother me. 

:thumbsup:

I LOVE your method of play, just HATE  :ok: to see you expose your self to an UNNECESSARY bet/loss!! :aggressive:

At any rate, your successful, and I love reading your exploits. . .  just cringe when I read about the "HEDGE" :diablo:

W7

Yo Audionut, All.........

   Good post and points.   I do not know why JP prefers the Ricochet ?
 
 I do not know why JP waits for the point to set-up and then uses the DC to bet on ? :scratch_ones_head:

 Why is he giving up the   " very-common "   point-seven-out cash ( $$$$) ?

  In your example when the 10....  "  RICOCHETED "  back and killed-off your  hedge bet....you have the edge over the Casino that the 10  WILL NOT  come back ( 2 to 1 ) so..... you need to take odds for enough $$$ to cover the hedge-bet loss.

 At this point, I  am not trying to make $$$$ ...I am trying to restore my gaming kitty to where it was before the play.

   Martin Silverthorne's.... "Neural Gaming System "   uses a  recovery-of-your-losses  play.   His 8-step progression  breaks-even on his  third  bet.    Say..... you bet 25.00 and lose it..... the next bet is for $40.00 and you also lose it..... the next bet is for $65.00 and you win it.  

  What has happened ?   You have LOST  66.66% of your bets ( 2 out of 3 ) but it has NOT cost you a dime !   How cool is that ?   :clapping: :yahoo: :good: :thumbsup:  His recovery game is a 100% double-up game.

 So...John Patrick likes the Ricochet over the Patrick for larger $$$ betting ....hummmm ?

  Adding the "3+Capping"  or " 4+Capping "  and hedging-out, at 100%.... the points of 6 and 8 gives this way of play a  nice player's-edge over the Casino !    :yahoo: :clapping: :yes: :dance1:

  On a rare play,  I will lose the Ricochet bet, the bet where the point went to and the odds bet.    That is why I do not bet a massive amount of cash on these bets.....JUST ENOUGH TO COVER MY JUST OCCURED LOSSES.  :rtfm:

 Losing the above bets requires a 100% to 300%  step-up recovery-of--loses progression.  If you are playing a $15.00 game  a 3x recovery game works well.

   That means stepping up to a $50.00 game until the lost $$$ is recovered then reverting to your $15.00 game.

   Back-testing and pretending , while  back-testing,  that I am at a real Casino is  key  ( for me )  to winning.

Jim

 

audionut

 " In your example when the 10. . . .   "  RICOCHETED "  back and killed-off your  hedge bet. . . . you have the edge over the Casino that the 10  WILL NOT  come back ( 2 to 1 ) so. . . . .  you need to take odds for enough $$$ to cover the hedge-bet loss.

  At this point, I  am not trying to make $$$$ . . . I am trying to restore my gaming kitty to where it was before the play. " :diablo:


Jim, thats my point exactly!! Your risking a hedge bet and a loss just "trying to restore your gaming kitty". . .  NO NEED!!

Play the PATRICK!! Same benefit (no risk of getting hurt by the come out 7) and NO HEDGE BET TO POTENTIALLY LOSE!! LESS RISK, MORE MONEY!!!  :pleasantry: ;D


audionut

"On a rare play,  I will lose the Ricochet bet, the bet where the point went to and the odds bet.     That is why I do not bet a massive amount of cash on these bets. . . . . JUST ENOUGH TO COVER MY JUST OCCURED LOSSES.   "

My point again. . .  DON'T USE THE RICOCHET BET,  just play the PATRICK!!! DOES'NT NEED A HEDGE BET that will cost you if you lose it!!!!

:give_heart:

W7

Yo Audionut, All......

  I have been researching th ...PATRICK ...Vs .....RICHOCHET  and indeed they are almost the same with the same loss risks.

   John Patrick posted on the .. " Richrochet Quandry "  ...thread :  

   " Anthony.....read the Richochet chapters and the total concept of the Richochet....I think you will agree that NOTHING

beats it.....ABSOLUTELY NOTHIING  ! "

   I am reading  the...' Kevin from Atlanta ' post in the thread ..." Richochet '  (  12/05/07).  He lays the two systems out,

side by side.

Testing........    
I will take advice from anyone.  I want to win without ego-games.

Respectfully,
Jim

audionut

Check out the CURRENT discussion on JP's board: "Difference between Patrick vs Ric" by Roger. . .  It's on the "front page" if you check it out soon. . .

The reason the Patrick is favored is that there is NO need to hedge ANY number at the come out.   You STILL will have NO CHANCE of the 7 beating you on the CO roll!!

Why would you risk 100's of dollars on the Ric hedging a number to do the same exact thing (a different way for the 7 not to hurt you)?

Please, I apologize if I'm comming off strong or argumentative . . . .  Not my intent. . .  just hate to see you put a bunch of money at risk that there is NO need for you to do so (just to have the 7 not hurt you). . .

Best of luck to you. . .  by all means, play the way you see fit. . .  I STILL love reading your posts!!


W7

Audionut,

  Why are you fixated on avoiding the come-out 7 ?  

 The exposure-to-loss in the same using ..."the Patrick. "

   Your..." loss-exposure" ... is switched to the Patrick DC point-come-out-roll  instead of the Richochet come-out-roll.

  Samething ....different road.  

The RICHOCHET  is a better road.   :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :clapping: :good: :thumbsup:

    Jesssss.... the Posters on the thread you posted ... " DO NOT GET IT ! "   They do not use the laws-of-probability (by looking back to the just-rolled numbers )  to set the hedge-point.

I just posted  there.
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 I am going to go to page #8 and then post every-other page because it throws-off a larger pool of outcome-numbers.

72 HOURS AT THE CRAPS TABLE:
PAGE #8 and
Play #1 :.....

7
5 6 11 5
7
5 6 2 5
11
5 4 610 8 7....Above string..."Capped " looking back =
===================================
10...3 rolls ago
4.....5 rolls ago
5.....6 rolls ago
9.....22 rolls ago...so..."9"... is our 100% hedge # against the C/O roll Killing-off our DP bet.   :rtfm:

 Therefore, we  LAY-BET the nine for $300.00 and ,at the same-time,  we put $200.00 in the DP box  

  . The pt. comes-up a "5."  We take-down our  $300.00 hedge-bet and wait for the outcome......57 = +$200.00   :
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PLAY #2....

9689
7
66
10117 =..." Capped"... looking back =

10...3 rolls ago
9.....7 rolls ago
4.....22 rolls ago
5.....25 rolls ago..."5" is our hedge #

we Lay-bet  the five for  $300.00 & put $200.00 in the DP box.  The pt. is the  "10." We take=down our $300.00 hedge-bet and wait for the outcome = 107 = +$200.00 ...sweet !    :yahoo:

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PLAY #3....

656
11
8699118
86597...."Capped".....looking back :

9.....2 rolls ago
5.....3 rolls ago
10...16 rolls ago
4......40 rolls ago...Wow ! ...so... "4" is our hedge #

We Lay-bet $400.00 ..."No 4 "... and we  put $200.00 in the DP box... The pt. is  the "10."  We take-down the $400.00 hedge bet and we wait for the outcome.....1069115957 =  +$200.00    :yahoo:

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PLAY #4.....

86597
1069115957
510337
12
1087
598264697
8113997
87
98885686125457
7 ....Capped....jessss ...a long step-over run !  Betting +$50.00 PL ( A pre-flop  bet )  next ....
7 = ............... +$50.00   :yahoo:

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PLAY #5.......

7
7
454
5129494101212114461082987....Capped !  =
2
1057
===============================
9.....3 rolls ago
10...6 rolls ago
4.....8 rolls ago
5....19 rolls ago.....so....the "5' is our hedge-bet  #....
================================

We Lay-bet the "5" for $300.00 and put $200.00 in the DP box.
 The pt.  number is the "2" and we win +$200.00 !
 We leave-up our "5" hedge-bet for $300.00 because this play has " NOT  went  " seven-out "  yet    We put another $200.00 in the DP box.
 The pt. is the "10."
We take down our $300.00 hedge-bet and wait for the outcome =
10,5,7 = ..................   +$200.00 ....sweet !    :yahoo:

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PLAY #6....

57
107
2
107
107
55....Capped.  Betting $50.00 ...next... on the PL...
66 =  ..... +$50.00 ...........  :yahoo:

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PLAY #7......

55
66
7
8108
6991192386
51181297....Capped =
539641265
97
==================
5.....6 rolls ago
9.....2 rolls ago
10...17 rolls ago
4.....38 rolls ago....Wow !
==================

 We Lay-bet the "4" for $400.00 and place $200.00 in the DP box.  The pt. is the "5."  We take-down our $400.00 Lay-bet and wait for the outcome =

539641265  =  .... -$200.00.  We...once again.... Lay-bet against the upcoming  C/O 7  =
======================================================
5......1 roll ago
4......4 rolls ago
9......6 rolls ago
10....25 rolls ago
=======================================================
  The   " 10 " is our hedge number....
 We  Lay-bet  $800.00  = "No 10."
We put $400.00 in the DP box.
 The pt. is " 9. "   We take-down our lay-bet of $800.00 and wait for the outcome.

97 = .+$400.00... for a net profit of... +$200.00 for the play !...........................................   :yahoo:

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PLAY #8
The last play on page #8......

 I  try to hedge-out all of 4's  and 10's when they set-up as the point and  I need them to come-back as points because the odds of that happening are 2 to 1 against me.

 I do not like those odds... so... I  lay-bet a  hedge-bet against that happening.

1027
67
87
7...Capped.....betting the PL for $50.00 on next roll.....
2 =   -$50.00 ....betting $100.00 on PL on next roll....
2 =   -$100.00 ...... betting $200.00 on PL on next roll....
457  After the pt. is set, hedge-out my $200.00 PL bet with a $400.00 lay-bet = " no 4." = $ 0.00 won/lost... repeat bet....
1012859510 = $200.00 in PL box and $400.00 Lay-bet = " No 10" -$400.00.  Placing $600.00 in PL box next...
41157  = After the  pt. is set,  lay-bet " No 4 " for  $1,200.00 = $0.00 won/lost.   Repeat bet.... $600.00 in PL box =
7 = ....... +$600.00

END OF PAGE #8

  Yes, I know that this is alot of $$$$$ to be betting but it is based on countless hours of practice.

        Often, at the craps table, I will say to myself... "This craps-play is just like practice last night. "  It becomes hard to tell practice from real play......and that is good..... because I will make the big $$$$ plays, when needed.

These big $$$$ plays  are  based on 1,000's of practice rolls using real recorded numbers.

 If you back-test craps numbers ( MP says..."Practice until you puke !"  ) you will too !

THOUGHTS ?
Jim
























W7

Audionut (AN)....

   I stand corrected.

    The Patrick does create DC C/O bet protection.   I am testing using it with the " 3+Capping

System. "   

       Getting a DP point-number " up"  gives NO bias as to whether it will win or lose.

   The ..."3+Capping "  and ..." 4+Capping System "  biases a player's-edge.... to winning the bet.

Jim

audionut

Super! Like I said before, I enjoy reading your posts. . . .  I just wanted to try and save you some money on a bet that is not needed  :give_rose:

Keep up the good work!  :pleasantry:

W7

YO...Fellow...."   :skull: Soon-to-be-Living-With-Our-Non-Earthbound-Kin  :skull:  ".... White-Light Spirits !  

  I am Not impressed with the " PATRICK  SYSTEM."  

It fails  often when compared to  " THE RICOCHET. "

   My last play on page #12 had my DC  point number as a five.   Sure enough....the danm "5" came up  before the 7 !

   The result was  -$200.00's using the Patrick...vs...  +$228.00 using the RicocheT.  A $428.00 $$ swing.   :pleasantry:

    Why  did this happen ?  The two systems are very much alike....

     It seems to be  in the " Laws of Probability. "  

 Looking back over the previously thrown 4,5,9 and 10's and choosing the number   that HAS NOT COME-UP THE LONGEST  has a  real  big-time  effect on the outcome of the play.

  With the Patrick, the numbers are totally random.....with the Ricochet we are following the number-biases, for that table, at that exact time by picking the least likely- to-appear hedge number.

  I have NOT  been knocked-off my  RIC hedge- number in 1,000's of dice throws !    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yahoo:

Cheers !
Jim

W7

Yo ....Kindred   Earthbounds............

    I had to go to San Diego last week.  I comp-booked into  Harraha's Ricon Indian Casino located  8 miles North of Escondito, Ca.  My Brother lives within 6 miles of the Casino.

   I hooked up my 14 foot lightweight  Costco  trailer to my 2000  Chevy 4-cyl., 79 HP Metro to drag behind my put-put car the 755 miles  ( RT ) to San Diego.     I bought a 12 foot A-Frame ladder, on EBAY,  that I needed to pick-up in Downtown  SD.

   I  started my trip last Wed. Morning at 6:00AM.  I was  not sure I should  take the LA Freeway 210 past Pasadena due to what happened the last time I went past Pasadena ( read about what happened to me  in the above post ).

   I DID NOT WHAT TO FIND MYSELF IN MY PAST LIFE AGAIN !    It  totally freaked me out the last time !  :swoon:

   I went ahead and used  the 210 Freeway with NO PROBLEMS .....but.... I took a bottle of  Wal Mart's ... " Stay Awake "  pills in my cars ashtray.

   I drove directly to Harraha's  Ricon Casino.   I drove my put-put car with the  trailer attached  at 52MPH.  I arrived at the Casino at 2:30PM ....Yep ! ....8 1/2 hours from my starting time.

   I was tired but I  still played card craps until I became really, really tired. i then went to the cash cage to cash in two very large Brown Chips.  The   smiley-faced cashier gal  said :

     " When you come to Harraha's  Ricon, we expect you to lose money  "  She was smiling but she meant what she said.

END OF PART #1................

Jim

W7

Yo, Fellow, Kindred......  " 25-Watt Street-Light-Killers "   :good:

   Big O'  and Montel Williams have both done one hour programs on how we Humans have "  Mental-Abilities"  to alter Street Lights !   :rtfm:

     Man O' Man do I ever enjoy doing that !      Google:  " Street Light Sliders " ....hit search....up pops mega information...

      Anyway, I am going to go back to Harraha's  Ricon Casino next week.   They give me 20 Five-Dollar promo-chips each time I show up  and with the free rooms and  free food credits, it is hard not to take.  

       I  have unfinished Medical proceedures to do in Tijuana, Mexico and I need to get legal stuff from my Brother in Escondito, Ca.   As I stated above, he lives just minutes from the Ricon Casino.

   My main fear, on this trip,  was driving past Pasadena, Ca. on Freeway 210.   I did not want to slide-back into my Mexican gardener...1920's life again.

        I have a block-of-missing-time from my last trip  through Pasadena and I have  " No Idea "  where it went or what I was doing during that missing time !  :swoon:

        I was shaking like an un-balanced washing machine the last time I recovered from being in that Park ......off the wall stuff ...U-think ?   :swoon:

  Anyway :

   I have been running my current  trips Card-Craps real recorded numbers  looking for random-number-patterns to exploit and I must say....... I found them !    :thumbsup:

     I will lay-out this... " Killer-Drop-Dead-In-Your-Tracks  "  way to exploit California Card-Craps in my next post.....  

    You then can use your own craps numbers to  back-test-the-hell-out-of-what-I-am-going-to-post to prove to yourself if it works for you.

        So far, it has totally blown-me-away how well it works !    :lol:    Adding a " stop-loss " rule seems to  make it ... BULLET-PROOF !    :pleasantry: :yahoo: :ok:  

       It is an improved (safer ) version of the 4+ Same-Way-Outcome-System, I told you about, in an above post.

      As you remember, I posted 124 winning outcomes, in Roulette.  They were back-to-back wins !    :yahoo:

End of Part #2.

Respectfully,
Jim



W7

Yo,  Kindred Carbon-Based  25-Watt Generators............. :dance1:

  I just finished back-testing page #10 in GBC's ... " 72 Hours At The Crap Table. "  I will lay-out the last play on page #10.

   It shows all  the plays you need to use my system :

Play #6 :

9,6,9
10,3,10
5,8,6,5
7
10,7....Above 4 PL wins are now ..." CAPPED " by DP win of 10,7...Start System after looking back for the  100% DP pre- C/O  hedge # to protect our DP bet against being knocked-off by a C/O 7 : =
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10 appeared 2 rolls ago
5 appeared   4 rolls ago
9 appeared  9 rolls ago
4 appeared  28  rolls ago....so... "4" is our PRE- C/O  100% PROTECT-THE- DP-BOX-BET against the C/O 7 HEDGE # BET
==========================================================================
  We  say..."$200.00  lay-bet on the four.  "  We also, at the same time,  put $100.00 in the DP box. The pt. is "7."
7  ...so.... we lose our $100.00  DP bet but we  win our 100% hedge bet on the ..." No 4 " =  zero win/loss for the play.

    We again put on a.... +$200.00 lay-bet ..." No 4 "  and a $100.00 bet in the DP box.  The PT. is..... " 6. "   we take-down our $200.00 lay-bet on the " 4.  Our $100.00 DP bet travels to the pt. of " 6." "    We  PLACE-BET the  "6" PT.  for
$96.00....  We now have a 100% hedge-bet going.....we win no matter what !

6,6..... The  PT. comes back as a " 6 " and we win +$16.00 net !   How cool is that ? Next, we ( Pre-C/0 )  Bring  the  $200.00 " No 4 " back up and we again  put  $100.00 in the DP box.   The pt. comes up "5".....so we take down our $200.00 ..." No 4 "  hedge bet and wait for the outcome....

5,6,3,5  ....We lose our $100.00 DP bet =  -$100.00.  We Pre C/O roll now say "  $400.00 No 4 "  and we put, at the same time, $200.00 in the DP box.   The Point is an ..."8."    We take-down our $400.00 ..."No 4 " hedge bet and " Place bet the point of " 8 "  for +$192.00.

8,8   .... The point comes back  and we win + $32.00 Net ! .... With " NO "  outcome risk !  :yahoo:  Next, we bring back our $400.00 ..."No 4 " lay-bet and at the same time,  put $200.00 in the DP box.  The point comes up... " 7" .
7....... We have another... 100%  hedge outcome ....Zero  WIN/LOSS.   We bring back our $400.00  " No 7 " LAY hedge bet and at the same time, we put $200.00 in the DP box.    The point comes up .." 5"  ...so...we take-down our $400.00  .."No 4 "  hedge protection lay-bet    and wait for the outcome......
5,4,6,11,7    ...We win +$200.00 and net +$100.00 for this play.  

Our total net-winnings for the last play on page #10 ... +$248.00.

 What would the outcomes  have been if we did not hedged-out the points . of 6 and 8's  and we had not  used  John Patrick's Ricochet System  ?

STRAIGHT-UP  5-STEP NEG. PROGRESSION PLAY :

9,6,9
10,3,10
5,8,6,5
10,7....Above 3 PL wins  now ..." CAPPED. " by the DP win ...10,7... so...start the 5-step progression to another DP win...
7.... -$100.00  ...Put  $200.00 in DP box for for next roll......
66 ...= -$200.00.  We now put $400.00 in the  DP box for our next roll......
5,6,3,5 .... =  -$400.00.   we double-up to $800.00 for our next rolling outcome.....
8,8..........   =  - $800.00....so....we now put $1,600.00  in the DP box for the next rolling outcome......
7 ............   =  - $1,600.00 ...Ouch !   We now put $3,200.00 in the  DP box for the next rolling outcome......
5,4,6,11,7 ...=   +$3,200.00 for a +$100.00 net gain.

  It is clear that using JP's Richochet System and 100% hedging-out the 6 and 8  points... hooked  into  the "3+ Capping System when betting in the DP box, is the way to play this System......U think ?

jim


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