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#### Timo

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January 18, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
IS THIS EUROPEAN SPINS.IF YES GIVEN THE FIRST FEW SPINS
08   B
25
36
15   B  I will just here and bet 2 4 6 8 10 11 13 15 17 (going nuke I bet 2 4 15 11 8 10 31 22 29)
07
09
35   B
33   B
22   B (win with Nuke with progression)
17   B win on 6 spins win progression
22   B
24   B

Small example of playing as it comes.But puting down on spreadsheet is another story

Hi all! In this example why would not bet 32,15,19,36,11,30,14,31,9 because more X than Y?? Maybe stupid question but ask anyway... If Kimo or somebody could answer?

Timo

#### PokerTwist1994

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January 19, 2012, 01:39:45 AM
Hi Timo,

That's the beauty of Kimo's teachings and spreadsheets.  Everyone sees something different and can use that as an advantage.  Good observation BTW.

Best Regards,
PT

#### seykid29

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January 19, 2012, 07:04:15 AM
Hi all! In this example why would not bet 32,15,19,36,11,30,14,31,9 because more X than Y?? Maybe stupid question but ask anyway... If Kimo or somebody could answer?

Timo
Timo in this small example im betting after 4 spins dominant factor as if playing as it comes in the head you can say,like Pokertwist said each in his own way..but putting on spreadsheet that is another story

#### Timo

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January 19, 2012, 03:33:54 PM
Hello! Ok, thanks for your replys mates!

Cheers!

Timo

#### Kimo Li

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January 21, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Odd and Even looks like

18   08   11      21    0   29
13   15   24      26   10   33
22   27   31      19   06   10
34   16   07       0   18   18
31   30   02      03   18   32
05   17   35      02   03   08
33   23   11      05   24   01
15   06    0      05   32   21
18   22   33      25   34   15
16   15   34      34   19   18
01   35   31      21   28   02
25   30   09      14   28   23
27   13   31      27   25   34
03   14   34      35   36   32
03   31   17      12   12   15
03   27   12       0   30   06
13    0   25      13   34   12
33   12   11      16   09   24
21   12   22      16   29   06
30   01   19      23   26   27
16   01   17      31   10   13
07   30   05      24   28   33
32   28   31      31   28   01
10   35   20      25   23   10
21   36   03      08   07   01
14   08   23      21   11   31
29   09   05       0   18   30
22   17   36      35   28   24
20   36   21      24   21   08
11   16   22      07   14   16
36   11   22      10   13   31
09   28   28       0   30   10
31   10   30      04   06   06
30   12   02      01   30   30
18   09   28      17   13   21
16   27   29      29   20   15
36   23   35      24   05   32
13   06   21      29   03   30
12   26   06      13   25   35
23   16   10      01   06   32
07   33   32      05   19   26
13   08   35      24   02   20
28   05   35      08   04   05
03   25   13      31   35   11
30   21   26      21   28   32
26   06   20      36   12   25
03   14   06      07   23   28
10   16   22      04   26   35
32   05   16      25   07   32
13   26   33      22   26   09

T= Total
O= Odd
E= Even

468 ODD                                468 EVEN

15   19      21                     32         04      02
25   17         27   13                        34   06
11         23                     36      30   08      10

597 ODD                                597 EVEN

05         33   01                        24   16         20
31   09         29                  14         22   18
07         35   03                        28   12         26

468                    597

T      O   E         T      O   E

3      2   1         2      1   1
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      2   2         2      1   1
1      0   1         4      1   3
3      0   3         3      2   1
3      1   2         3      3   0
2      2   0         4      3   1
4      2   2         1      1   0
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      2   2         2      0   2
2      1   1         4      3   1
3      2   1         3      1   2
5      4   1         1      1   0
3      0   3         3      2   1
2      2   0         4      2   2
3      1   2         2      1   1
4      3   1         1      0   1
1      1   0         5      2   3
2      1   1         4      1   3
4      3   1         2      1   1
3      2   1         3      2   1
1      0   1         5      3   2
1      0   1         5      3   2
4      2   2         2      1   1
3      1   2         3      3   0
4      3   1         2      1   1
1      0   1         4      3   1
2      1   1         4      1   3
4      2   2         2      0   2
1      1   0         5      1   4
4      2   2         2      1   1
2      0   2         3      1   2
5      0   5         1      1   0
4      0   4         2      1   1
3      3   0         3      1   2
2      2   0         4      2   2
3      1   2         3      2   1
4      2   2         2      2   0
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      1   3         2      1   1
2      1   1         4      3   1
3      1   2         3      1   2
2      0   2         4      3   1
3      3   0         3      3   0
4      2   2         2      0   2
3      1   2         3      0   3
2      1   1         4      2   2
2      0   2         4      1   3
3      1   2         3      2   1
1      1   0         5      2   3

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#### Timo

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January 21, 2012, 06:20:26 PM
Using Bayes (sample 29 actual) Let's see what Odd and Even looks like

18   08   11      21    0   29
13   15   24      26   10   33
22   27   31      19   06   10
34   16   07       0   18   18
31   30   02      03   18   32
05   17   35      02   03   08
33   23   11      05   24   01
15   06    0      05   32   21
18   22   33      25   34   15
16   15   34      34   19   18
01   35   31      21   28   02
25   30   09      14   28   23
27   13   31      27   25   34
03   14   34      35   36   32
03   31   17      12   12   15
03   27   12       0   30   06
13    0   25      13   34   12
33   12   11      16   09   24
21   12   22      16   29   06
30   01   19      23   26   27
16   01   17      31   10   13
07   30   05      24   28   33
32   28   31      31   28   01
10   35   20      25   23   10
21   36   03      08   07   01
14   08   23      21   11   31
29   09   05       0   18   30
22   17   36      35   28   24
20   36   21      24   21   08
11   16   22      07   14   16
36   11   22      10   13   31
09   28   28       0   30   10
31   10   30      04   06   06
30   12   02      01   30   30
18   09   28      17   13   21
16   27   29      29   20   15
36   23   35      24   05   32
13   06   21      29   03   30
12   26   06      13   25   35
23   16   10      01   06   32
07   33   32      05   19   26
13   08   35      24   02   20
28   05   35      08   04   05
03   25   13      31   35   11
30   21   26      21   28   32
26   06   20      36   12   25
03   14   06      07   23   28
10   16   22      04   26   35
32   05   16      25   07   32
13   26   33      22   26   09

T= Total
O= Odd
E= Even

468 ODD                                468 EVEN

15   19      21                     32         04      02
25   17         27   13                        34   06
11         23                     36      30   08      10

597 ODD                                597 EVEN

05         33   01                        24   16         20
31   09         29                  14         22   18
07         35   03                        28   12         26

468                    597

T      O   E         T      O   E

3      2   1         2      1   1
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      2   2         2      1   1
1      0   1         4      1   3
3      0   3         3      2   1
3      1   2         3      3   0
2      2   0         4      3   1
4      2   2         1      1   0
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      2   2         2      0   2
2      1   1         4      3   1
3      2   1         3      1   2
5      4   1         1      1   0
3      0   3         3      2   1
2      2   0         4      2   2
3      1   2         2      1   1
4      3   1         1      0   1
1      1   0         5      2   3
2      1   1         4      1   3
4      3   1         2      1   1
3      2   1         3      2   1
1      0   1         5      3   2
1      0   1         5      3   2
4      2   2         2      1   1
3      1   2         3      3   0
4      3   1         2      1   1
1      0   1         4      3   1
2      1   1         4      1   3
4      2   2         2      0   2
1      1   0         5      1   4
4      2   2         2      1   1
2      0   2         3      1   2
5      0   5         1      1   0
4      0   4         2      1   1
3      3   0         3      1   2
2      2   0         4      2   2
3      1   2         3      2   1
4      2   2         2      2   0
3      2   1         3      1   2
4      1   3         2      1   1
2      1   1         4      3   1
3      1   2         3      1   2
2      0   2         4      3   1
3      3   0         3      3   0
4      2   2         2      0   2
3      1   2         3      0   3
2      1   1         4      2   2
2      0   2         4      1   3
3      1   2         3      2   1
1      1   0         5      2   3

Kimo Li
Hi Kimo! So you put all information to"one" Nuke ,Hemi or what using to? Correct?

Cheers!

Timo

PS. You are very genius Kimo!!

#### Kimo Li

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January 21, 2012, 07:04:54 PM
Hi Timo,

If you put the same information on the Global Pie spreadsheet, you would get the same information.

Kimo Li

#### Timo

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January 21, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Hello Kimo!

Yes, the numbers will be all the same what you are "playing" with..But but.. Of course they will come same GP method also but how you use your Nuke, Bowtie and so on, you know Kimo, my mate but I am still just a novice, you are PRO!!
And I am very happy that some like you give us your teachings!!  THANKS!!!

Cheers!

Timo

#### Kimo Li

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January 21, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
Hi Timo,

You are absolutely correct.  The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own.  You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.

Kimo Li

#### Timo

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January 22, 2012, 12:47:24 AM
Hi Timo,

You are absolutely correct.  The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own.  You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.

Kimo Li

Hi Kimo! I know that I am just scratching surfase.. There is lot, lot more..! Maybe takes 5-10 years when I know about roulette 10%  what you do. And I say I dont studying your methods that I come rich, just a paper I think, if food and roof your head up and jobs thats important plus love your family, which is most important, I think. Just fascinating how you beat up roulette, its what me keep up in this game, because its beatable, matter who says different.

Cheers!

Timo

#### Timo

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January 22, 2012, 02:57:13 PM
Hi Timo,

You are absolutely correct.  The same numbers will have different trends when you apply them to the Bowtie, Nuke, Pendulum, Global Star, Hemi, and so on, each have a life of their own.  You are only beginning to scratch the surface. There is more to the Global Pie Method that meets the eye.

Kimo Li
Hello Kimo! And the "eye" comes practising, practising..? It wont happen like flash I suppose?

Best Regards Timo

#### Kimo Li

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January 22, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Hi Timo,

You have a lot of wisdom.  A stable home family, and friends is the most important.  I too share the same feelings. Those who know me personally, know that I donate my time and money to build picnic tables and benches to give away anonymously. That is what makes my soul be at peace.

Something terrible happen in my life thirty years ago.  In order for me to keep my sanity I needed to keep my mind busy.  So, I decided to do the "impossible", that is to break the code of roulette.  I did not do it for the money. I did to keep my sanity.  I spent all my time doing so. It was great because it kept me from thinking about what had happened in my life. I did not expect to figure it out, but I did.

Kimo Li

#### loungeplayer

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January 22, 2012, 07:39:26 PM
hi Kimo, sorry i missed out on the message you had for me earlier in this thread.  Yes, for the live numbers you posted earlier, it would still apply as I tried out the similar principles but I used Nuke Quads.

For all fellow students following this thread, what Kimo posted here:
http://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=19191.msg143568#msg143568

that is very very very important, in my humble opinion, he is hinting us on a concept in GPM called 'Equal Distribution'.

Digest that, and you would get new nutrients in your roulette path!

LP

#### seykid29

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January 23, 2012, 05:49:33 AM
With a good map,you can drive around safely,given the map of roulette it's the same the guess

#### Kimo Li

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January 23, 2012, 10:49:02 AM
Quote
With a good map,you can drive around safely,given the map of roulette it's the same the guess

Hi Seykid,

That's a great analogy.

Kimo Li