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Public Competition Banter

Started by mcmonaco, May 07, 2012, 10:25:59 AM

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cheese

Quote from: Kimo Li on May 19, 2012, 10:37:59 PM
You can't provide a pattern, can you? Here's your chance.

I think he means he see's a long pattern after
its over, like RBRBRBRBRB for 30 spins and
thinks it means something significant. It doesn't.

crackers

Quote from: cheese on May 19, 2012, 10:44:11 PM
Perfect pattern, never heard of it. What does it mean?

Perfect... that's you. Your opinion I mean.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on May 19, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Perfect... that's you. Your opinion I mean.

So its a secret, then? Another Gizmo balonyfest?
You dearly love to say we don't understand this
and we don't understand that, yet when pressed
for details, you clam up.

Whats a 'perfect pattern'? Do you even know?

I'll give you a hand before you embarrass yourself.
It doesn't exist. It can't exist except in your mind.
If you think you see a pattern in a series of outcomes,
everybody should be able to see it. And they can't,
until you explain it to them. Then they aren't seeing
a pattern, they're seeing you're explanation.

Its like a rorschach test where you think you see a
butterfly and somebody else see's Lincoln's face.
Both are right. There are no patterns in roulette,
there's only what you make up. If you see an 'elegant
pattern' its all in your head, its a rorschach butterfly.

crackers

WOW! NOW SPIKE IS LORD OF THE FLIES. Father Roulette has now set up his
Psychologist stand for 25 cents a pop. There is only one thing to do here. I'll
have to prove the existence of both common and elegant patterns for all his
flies. Now that this pest has placed all of his credibility on the line. This will
be a fun week.

Quote from: cheese on May 20, 2012, 01:01:55 AM
So its a secret, then? Another Gizmo balonyfest?
You dearly love to say we don't understand this
and we don't understand that, yet when pressed
for details, you clam up.

Whats a 'perfect pattern'? Do you even know?

I'll give you a hand before you embarrass yourself.
It doesn't exist. It can't exist except in your mind.
If you think you see a pattern in a series of outcomes,
everybody should be able to see it. And they can't,
until you explain it to them. Then they aren't seeing
a pattern, they're seeing you're explanation.

Its like a rorschach test where you think you see a
butterfly and somebody else see's Lincoln's face.
Both are right. There are no patterns in roulette,
there's only what you make up. If you see an 'elegant
pattern' its all in your head, its a rorschach butterfly.

crackers

Here is the first elegant pattern and the first time I noticed it:

1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2

This occured back in 1993 and I made almost $3,000 off of it.
You can look for proof of patterns and perfect patterns in the
grail of randomness thread.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on May 20, 2012, 03:38:06 AM
Here is the first elegant pattern and the first time I noticed it:

1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,2,1,1,2

Its a fluke arrangement of random outcomes.

bombus

Quote from: cheese on May 20, 2012, 03:43:05 AM
Its a fluke arrangement of random outcomes.


Aren't they all?


And what is a fluke anyway? Can we gain any advantage from flukes?

crackers

Quote from: bombus on May 20, 2012, 08:12:45 AM
And what is a fluke anyway? Can we gain any advantage from flukes?

Common patterns occur from 10 to 15 spins long. You notice them usually by the
6th spin of that length. That gives you several spins where you can bet as if you
knew what the next few outcomes will be. If you lose one bet then that pattern
is broken. There are many ways to take advantage of these opportunities. The
very best way is to play it is as a free played positive progression. If that needs
an explanation then I'll provide one.

albertojonas

Quote from: crackers on May 20, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Common patterns occur from 10 to 15 spins long. You notice them usually by the
6th spin of that length. That gives you several spins where you can bet as if you
knew what the next few outcomes will be. If you lose one bet then that pattern
is broken. There are many ways to take advantage of these opportunities. The
very best way is to play it is as a free played positive progression. If that needs
an explanation then I'll provide one.
what do you consider as common patterns?
give examples of them forming at 6th spin also.
Feel free to exemplify also your positive progression.

Cheers

crackers

All patterns are common. The only difference is that rather than being rare, where
they occur as many times as 30 spins, they only occur for 10 to 15 spins. You can
easily see them in my format of charting. Memorizing hundreds of them is far less
productive than having the capacity to recognize them having never considered
their form before. If you are waiting for rrB to repeat then you might miss BBr
repeating. Fortune rewards the prepared mind.

On EC you bet 20 on the first bet. On the second bet you bet the 20 you just
won. That second bet is free. It's already paid for. So you let it ride. You can
let it ride at full value or you can take a little each step that you win.  There
is no way to lose this bet once you have won the first bet. Those that fail to
recognize opportunities succeed at failing themselves.

cheese

Quote from: crackers on May 20, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
On EC you bet 20 on the first bet. On the second bet you bet the 20 you just
won. That second bet is free. It's already paid for. So you let it ride.

Its the oldest bet in roulette, the parlay bet.
Letting it ride was the poor mans way in
EU of using what little money he had to win
a jackpot with. Its just another progression
and does nothing to help you improve your
odds.

cheese

Quote from: albertojonas on May 20, 2012, 08:24:50 AM

No matter how hard one try or how many outcomes analyzed, one can only observe 3 different formations produced by this distribution.

What 3 formations, what do you mean.

albertojonas

Quote from: crackers on May 20, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Common patterns occur from 10 to 15 spins long.I only mentioned Common patterns because you did here. You notice them usually by the 6th spin of that length  Is this your preferred length?.
That gives you several spins where you can bet as if you knew what the next few outcomes will be. This I call Educated Guess or Speculation

crackers

Quote from: cheese on May 20, 2012, 05:41:56 PM
Its the oldest bet in roulette, the parlay bet.
Letting it ride was the poor mans way in
EU of using what little money he had to win
a jackpot with. Its just another progression
and does nothing to help you improve your
odds.

Who claimed it improves odds? Straw man debating trick always used when you have
nothing. I guess you see patterns now. I'm sure there are several people here that
would be more than happy to help you see them if you don't see them.

crackers

Quote from: albertojonas on May 20, 2012, 06:18:51 PM
this kind of reply is useless for the matter... :nono:

Excuse me while I deal with my daily pest control. If you want to take the lead on
perfect patterns and elegant patterns then go ahead. I've been dealing with people
that don't believe in them for years.

crackers

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